Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread juan
On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 02:22:16 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> The fact that ignoring it leads to nonsense is good enough >> proof. But if you don't like that proof, so-fucking-what. The >> 'law' remains valid. > > Only according to your opinion, and the opinion of the

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
> > So "being attacked by the US nazis is an axiom" - But it's not > provable nor disprobable. So how do they know it will happen? They don't KNOW. They suspect. Like you suspect the law of non-contradiction is absolutely, always, in all cases, true. They can't prove it, or disprove

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread juan
On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 00:45:55 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> But, since you're familiar with reductio ad absurdum, perhaps you'd > >> also like to read up on examples of ad hominems as well. > > > > > > As used as a colloquial (and snobbish) synonym for insult? > > It's not the same

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
> On Oct 5, 2016 9:16 PM, "Razer" wrote: > Razer is correct. Unicorns do exist. Now Juan probably will say that > Nyan Cats don't exist, hunfs! ;P I unicorn is just a horny horse, and a pegasus is just a horse high on dope. Rather elementary.

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
>> But, since you're familiar with reductio ad absurdum, perhaps you'd >> also like to read up on examples of ad hominems as well. > > > As used as a colloquial (and snobbish) synonym for insult? It's > not the same thing as the 'informal fallacy' you know... I just meant that you

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread juan
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:16:09 -0700 Razer wrote: > On 10/05/2016 04:14 PM, juan wrote: > > > Even unicorns. They exist as fantasy creatures > > Excse Me? Unicorns are real! > > They just found work and aren't hanging around the corner 'shooting > the shit' quite as often

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread juan
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 22:18:19 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 21:04:32 - > > >> No, one simply denies them. But, even if one HAD to USE them, that > >> would not prove them. I might use several axioms to derive a > >> contradiction. > > > > So one or more of your

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 21:04:32 - >> No, one simply denies them. But, even if one HAD to USE them, that >> would not prove them. I might use several axioms to derive a >> contradiction. > > So one or more of your 'axioms' are not true and not really > axioms. The method is called

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread juan
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 21:04:32 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> "AXIOM: A proposition regarded as self-evidently true, > > > > > > Axioms being self-evidently true means that if you choose to > > DENY them, you need to USE them in the denial process > > anyway, therefore proving

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread juan
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 13:37:50 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > Again, truth is NOT a matter of agreement. And axioms are > > not to be 'agreed' upon. Also, axioms can be proven. If axioms > > couldn't be proven then any statement based on them would > > be...unproven, meaningless,

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
> On 10/05/2016 06:37 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > "'conjecture' or 'hypothesis', both of which connote apparently true but > not self-evident statements." > > That's what you get for using dictionaries. > > English language dictionaries also conflate "Want" with "Need". > > Apparently that

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread Razer
On 10/05/2016 06:37 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: "'conjecture' or 'hypothesis', both of which connote apparently true but not self-evident statements." That's what you get for using dictionaries. English language dictionaries also conflate "Want" with "Need". Apparently that 'disease... that

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
> Again, truth is NOT a matter of agreement. And axioms are not > to be 'agreed' upon. Also, axioms can be proven. If axioms > couldn't be proven then any statement based on them would > be...unproven, meaningless, useless, et cetera. >From the CRC Encyclopedia of

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-04 Thread xorcist
> You disagree because you just keep cheating. There isn't much > to add. Logic isn't about 'agreement' with you, or with the > party. I take this to mean that you don't believe that logic requires fundamental assumptions that cannot be proven, but must be agreed upon? And

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-04 Thread juan
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 05:11:49 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > > > It's quite clear that your idiotic ramblings are anything > > but accurate. But of course, since your goal is propaganda, > > accuracy is something you don't want at all. > > Thank you with going for the a-list troll

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-04 Thread xorcist
> It's worse than that :( In that I agree with much of what he says. Or at > least, I get his perspective, as part of a working understanding. But > he's clearly not interested in that :( So it goes. Yeah. It's like I told a friend of mine once during a discussion. "That is a lucid, cogent, well

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-04 Thread xorcist
> > Ignoring what he writes, and declining to address whatever I notice, > works pretty well :) > Truth. I should learn to look at chatter like juan's as something akin to entropy. Alas, I have difficulty accepting the heat death of the universe as well; I suppose that's 'on me' as they say.

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-04 Thread Mirimir
On 10/03/2016 02:00 PM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> Not 'we'. I'm commenting on the estalishment progaganda you >> post. > > Yah. > >> >> What? You can't come up with any decent answer, piece-of-shit >> psychobabble scam artist? > > Actually, I found that answer quite

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
>> remember that even part-time workers in the first world >> making $25k-30k USD are globally in the 1% or so. > > There use to be an informational leaflet going around called "If the > world was 10 people". In that scenario, Americans have ALL the stuff. Yeah, I've seen break-downs like that.

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread Razer
On 10/03/2016 01:20 PM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > remember that even part-time workers in the first world > making $25k-30k USD are globally in the 1% or so. There use to be an informational leaflet going around called "If the world was 10 people". In that scenario, Americans have ALL the

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread juan
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 01:21:42 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > Here's some advanced calculus for you : World population ~ > > 7400 millions. What's the 1% of 7400? Why, it's 74 millions. > > > > Now find out who those 74 million people are. Then try the > > 10% group. That one

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread juan
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 00:36:08 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > You seem to have real difficulty understanding playful obtuseness most of what you write is obtuse or outright stupid. There's no way to tell apart your allgedly feigned stupidity from the naturaly

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> Here's some advanced calculus for you : World population ~ > 7400 millions. What's the 1% of 7400? Why, it's 74 millions. > > Now find out who those 74 million people are. Then try the 10% > group. That one should include most of the US and europe...et > cetera. I

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread juan
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 00:02:53 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > Let me SPELL IT OUT for you, RETARD. I didn't deny I was > > typing on a computer (as a matter of fact, I use a desktop > > computer). I denied being in the "1%". GET IT now? > > Wait, I lost track. Really. And when

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> Let me SPELL IT OUT for you, RETARD. I didn't deny I was typing > on a computer (as a matter of fact, I use a desktop computer). > I denied being in the "1%". GET IT now? Wait, I lost track. Are we talking about wealth, or intelligence? Because I agree that neither of us are

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> Juan is extremely onry That is a polite way of putting it. Are you suggesting I try being overly polite? Well, OK. Juan, dear sir, I wouldn't be happy to find your thumbs cramping up typing on a phone. Fear not, I shant be ill to find that you not bother responding to my twaddle and would be

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread rooty
Juan is extremely onry Original Message On Oct 3, 2016, 4:22 PM, wrote: > http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder > > Were you abused as a child? > No, just having some 'fun' with Juan. Trying different strategies to

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> > Sadly, the mental rigour required for precise communication and clear > thinking is not for many. I'm fine with mental rigor, except when its used to box in ideas, and try to control people. Which is, ALWAYS, how ideologues use it. So, in those circumstances, I eschew it. Because I don't

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread rooty
http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder Were you abused as a child? Original Message On Oct 3, 2016, 3:32 PM, wrote: >> >> Hey fuck head, you're typing on a computer. That makes you one of the >> global 1% too. > > >

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
>> Hey fuck head, any electronic device that can post stuff on the net >> is a computer. > > How many 1000s of millions of people have phones that can 'post > stuff on the net' are there? Oh I guess something like one third > of the world belongs to the "1%" then? And those

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> > ignorant establishment bot is also an expert in chinese > history! amazing. Expert? No. But you don't need to be an expert to know a few things. Like you. I see you occasionally use verbs and nouns properly. >> Look at the Middle East: For all intents and purposes they are in

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 05:14:52PM -0300, juan wrote: > On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 20:00:56 - > xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > > > > > > > xorcist's bottom line : society is great after all and don't > > > rock the boat or the terrists will get you! > > > > > > Yup. That is clearly what I

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread juan
On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 22:32:42 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > >> > >> Hey fuck head, you're typing on a computer. That makes you one of > >> the global 1% too. > > > > > > False. Like everything you said, stupid piece-of-shit. > > Hey fuck head, any electronic device that can post stuff

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
>> >> Hey fuck head, you're typing on a computer. That makes you one of the >> global 1% too. > > > False. Like everything you said, stupid piece-of-shit. Hey fuck head, any electronic device that can post stuff on the net is a computer.

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread juan
On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 22:04:17 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > Look at Asian history: China is finally coming out of its slumber ignorant establishment bot is also an expert in chinese history! amazing. > > Look at the Middle East: For all intents and purposes they are in

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> That's the kind of privileges you get by raping the whole world > for centuries, including spanish empire, dutch empire, british > empire(yours) and now british-amerikunt empire (yours). No > wonder you are a loyal subject ahd defender of the status quo. > Oh yes,

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> Ain't no "if" about that collapse; "when" would be more accurate. Agreed. > And the wonderful achievements of Progressive Liberalism only cost us: Agreed. > But our "homeless people" can have a shiny toy to compensate them for > their lack of basic security and so-called necessities. Yes,

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> > Yes, piece-of-shit - That's clearly what you said, and like the > 'good '(pretty mediocre) scam artist you are, you prefaced it > with "I agree with you, but...". Oh Juanita, sing that sweet sweet song of love to me once again! Of all the trolls under heaven, there is none

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread juan
On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 20:00:56 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > > > xorcist's bottom line : society is great after all and don't > > rock the boat or the terrists will get you! > > > Yup. That is clearly what I said. And any other the people on this > list who shares your reading

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> Not 'we'. I'm commenting on the estalishment progaganda you > post. Yah. > > What? You can't come up with any decent answer, piece-of-shit > psychobabble scam artist? Actually, I found that answer quite entertaining. And seeing that our previous interaction has proven

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread juan
On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 14:58:03 -0400 Steve Kinney wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 10/03/2016 08:36 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > > >> By-the-way, I saw somebody on the interwebz suggesting that > >> trump's job is to get the cunt

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread Razer
On 10/03/2016 12:21 PM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >>> Hell, even the >>> homeless can be overweight and have ipods and shit. >> >> They can have iPods but no shelter. How does this sound for you? >> >>

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread Razer
On 10/03/2016 12:05 PM, Sangy wrote: >> Hell, even the >> homeless can be overweight and have ipods and shit. > > They can have iPods but no shelter. How does this sound for you? > >

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> > Actually, people who support to varying degrees things like tor > (a pentagon's cyberweapon), google, clinton and even the US > military (not as bad as russia's) are not unthinking. They > understand perfectly well what they are doing. > Says a pinhead using Gmail.

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:47:08 - > xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > >> As sick as this society is (and I do agree on that), bloodshed is >> relatively at a minimum, and resources are plentiful. > > What kind of moral agent, sorry, robot, would say that kind of > thing? > Sorry, we

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
>> Hell, even the >> homeless can be overweight and have ipods and shit. > > They can have iPods but no shelter. How does this sound for you? > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/17/the-stuff-we-really-need-is-getting-more-expensive-other-stuff-is-getting-cheaper/ > Oh, hey I

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread juan
On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:34:40 -0700 Sean Lynch wrote: > > > > > People who are torbots. Or work for google. Or both! - > > Aren't the loyalties of silicon valley fascists rather transparent. > > > > Everyone who doesn't agree with you is just an unthinking robot,

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread juan
On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:47:08 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > As sick as this society is (and I do agree on that), bloodshed is > relatively at a minimum, and resources are plentiful. What kind of moral agent, sorry, robot, would say that kind of thing? > But try to keep

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread Sangy
> Hell, even the > homeless can be overweight and have ipods and shit. They can have iPods but no shelter. How does this sound for you? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/17/the-stuff-we-really-need-is-getting-more-expensive-other-stuff-is-getting-cheaper/

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/2016 08:36 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> By-the-way, I saw somebody on the interwebz suggesting that >> trump's job is to get the cunt elected. The idea is to have >> somebody like trump to point at and say "look! the murderous

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> It's a counterpoint to all the technocratic libertarian bullshit that > appears here. as if that republican crap somehow 'punk'. > > This society is sick and perverse and needs to be put out of it's misery > like a rat dog that just bit some gentrified whore's kid. While I do understand the

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread Razer
On 10/03/2016 10:34 AM, Sean Lynch wrote: > On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 8:44 PM, juan > wrote: > > On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 22:18:40 -0500 > "Shawn K. Quinn" > wrote: > > > > > I'll

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread Razer
On 10/02/2016 10:06 PM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/10/02/wednesday-hillary-clinton-done- >> You know what... up until now I have supported what Julian and Wikileaks >> have done. If he costs Hillary the election, though, that could very >> well change in a

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread xorcist
> > It doesn't make any sense. He either wants the job or he doesn't. If he > does, he needs to figure out--FAST--that running the United States of > America is not a reality TV show!! If he doesn't, he could have declined > the GOP nomination and let... just about anyone else in the running >

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread Cari Machet
See the germans get it > https://plus.google.com/+RT/posts/9VgStMJqnu6 Really the longer everyone just stands and gawks at the dead bodies the longer it will take to clear the space of debris On Oct 3, 2016 12:29 PM, "Cari Machet" wrote: > I am always astounded by

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-03 Thread Cari Machet
I am always astounded by intelligent people buying into political theater ... please take a history lesson ... start before the formation of the NSA and look at the roles of the council on foreign relations ... there is also the formulation of the central bank > the fed which is privately held ...

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-02 Thread jim bell
From: aestetix >I'll preface by saying I hate both candidates, and support neither. However, >if>there is something in the public interest, they should publish it, >regardless of >timing. I'm reminded of the NSA wiretap story that was delayed due to the 2004 >election,

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-02 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2016-10-03 at 05:06 +, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > The argument goes like this: he enters the GOP race, and gets all the > candidates talking about him, rather than Hill. Running interference > for her. If you look at the time line, whenever the media began > running back to her

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-02 Thread xorcist
> http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/10/02/wednesday-hillary-clinton-done- > You know what... up until now I have supported what Julian and Wikileaks > have done. If he costs Hillary the election, though, that could very > well change in a hurry. Makes no difference either way. Hillary is as corrupt

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-02 Thread aestetix
I'll preface by saying I hate both candidates, and support neither. However, if there is something in the public interest, they should publish it, regardless of timing. I'm reminded of the NSA wiretap story that was delayed due to the 2004 election, and would possibly have influenced the outcome.

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-02 Thread grarpamp
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > I don't know what the fuck Julian is thinking This is true, you don't. > trying to get Trump in office. They're trying to get Hillary out. The distinction there is huge. Since the news media and plenty of others

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-02 Thread jim bell
From: Shawn K. Quinn On Mon, 2016-10-03 at 01:13 +, jim bell wrote: >> http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/10/02/wednesday-hillary-clinton-done-reports-julian-assange-s-announcement-tuesday-will-finish >> "Is it the October surprise? >> MSNBC’s Jesse Rodriguez posted what

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-02 Thread juan
On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 22:18:40 -0500 "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > > I'll be honest, there are a lot of things I do not like about Hillary > Clinton. However, they pale in comparison to what I do not like about > Donald Trump, a man who can legitimately be compared to Adolf

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-02 Thread Razer
Addenda: Note that Wikileaks nor Assange said shit about Wednesday. The senior producer for a Fox talking head show said it and didn't even attribute the statement to Wikileaks or Assange. Rr "Whatta Maroon!" -Bugs Bunny On 10/02/2016 06:13 PM, jim bell wrote: >

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-02 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2016-10-03 at 01:13 +, jim bell wrote: > http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/10/02/wednesday-hillary-clinton-done-reports-julian-assange-s-announcement-tuesday-will-finish > > > > "Is it the October surprise? > MSNBC’s Jesse Rodriguez posted what could be interpreted as an ominous >