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2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-11 Thread Tyler Durden
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2003-02-11 Thread telecon
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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
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2003-02-11 Thread Steve Mynott
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2003-02-11 Thread Jim Choate
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2003-02-11 Thread david
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CDR: The Water Barons - How privatized water supply fails in Manila...(fwd)

2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
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2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
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2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
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2003-02-11 Thread Sarad AV
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2003-02-11 Thread Tim May
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2003-02-11 Thread Steve Schear
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Re: NYT: The Wimps of War

2003-02-11 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 03:53 PM, Steve Schear wrote: [use login: cyberpunks/cyberpunks] By PAUL KRUGMAN George W. Bush's admirers often describe his stand against Saddam Hussein as Churchillian. Yet his speeches about Iraq  and for that matter about everything else  have been

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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread jet
At 2:40 + 2003/02/12, lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote: This one just won't die. People keep repeating it. Not much different from Bush's Time is running out or They hate us because we love freedom. Would you like to show us the part of the twelve page German law of March, 1938 that limits gun

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2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
JOHANNESBURG: HUMAN RIGHTS Feb 10 2003 Anti-Privatisation Activist Murdered, Attacks Continue Early in the morning of February 8 in Orange Farm (an informal settlement of 1.5 million people south of Johannesburg), 61 year-old Anti-Privatisation Forum APF) and Orange Farm Water Crisis

Re: Trap guns, black baggers, and Arlington Road

2003-02-11 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:43:26 -0800, you wrote: -- how does a property owner authenticate a person or group claiming to be cops? Flashing a badge is not enough, as badges for hundreds of jurisdictions are for sale by mail order, gun shows, and probably lots of other shops. (For the uninitiated,

Re: Dell Dude Arrested for Pot

2003-02-11 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 4:22 PM -0800 on 2/10/03, Tim May wrote: In this age of the War on (Some) Dictators and the War on (Some) Drugs, the persecutors have to pick their targets for maximum effect. Hence the impending life sentence for the Berkeley guy who committed thoughtcrime by writing books and articles

Re: Putting the NSA Data Overwrite Standard Legend to Death... (fwd)

2003-02-11 Thread David Howe
at Monday, February 10, 2003 3:20 AM, Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] was seen to say: On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Sunder wrote: The OS doesn't boot until you type in your passphrase, plug in your USB fob, etc. and allow it to read the key. Like, Duh! You know, you really ought to stop smoking crack.

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