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Complete means that we can take any and all -legal- strings within that
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Jim Choate says:
Godel's does -not- say mathematics is incomplete, it says we can't prove
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You are mixing up what Godel says about proving consistency within a system,
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On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Tyler Durden wrote:
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On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
Jim Choate wrote:
Complete means that we can take any and all -legal- strings within that
formalism and assign them -one of only two- truth values; True v False.
Getting much closer.
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Ken Hirsch wrote:
Jim Choate says:
Godel's does -not- say mathematics is incomplete, it says we can't prove
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You are mixing up what Godel says about proving consistency
At 06:51 PM 12/5/02 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
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OK, suppose we've got a bank that
On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 10:31 AM, Tim May wrote:
Swiss banks could take in and dispense from accounts without any
identity credentials (the passwords and equivalents to signatures and
chop marks) because of this basic point about Bayesian probability.
Swiss banks were not
On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 06:50 AM, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
Jim Choate wrote:
No he didn't. He proved Mathematics is incomplete, ie that there are
universally valid but unprovable statements within it.
He proved that any system that contains Peano arithmetic (roughly, a
concept
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