Re: Anarchy, and confusion

2003-03-05 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 04:40 PM, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 01:08:29PM -0800, Tim May wrote: anarchy (without a top authority -- an arch). We pick our [...] Anarchy means an arch means free choice means responsibility

Re: Anarchy, and confusion

2003-03-05 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 01:08:29PM -0800, Tim May wrote: anarchy (without a top authority -- an arch). We pick our [...] Anarchy means an arch means free choice means responsibility for I confess I haven't a clue what you mean by an arch, though

Re: .sig

2003-03-05 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 04:57 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Tim May wrote: Yeah, I agree. It's time I retired that .sig. PLONK. Move .sig. For great justice. --Tim May The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized

Department of Homeland Security vs. Full Disclosure?

2003-03-05 Thread Ryan Lackey
It appears the DHS is taking responsibility for putting pressure on those who discover security flaws to keep them quiet until they see fit to release. Hopefully in the future those who discover security flaws will take advantage of the remailer network and cryptographic signatures to post their

Re: .sig

2003-03-05 Thread anonimo arancio
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:33:59 -0800, you wrote: At 1:08 PM -0800 3/4/03, Tim May quoted: If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're around. --attribution uncertain, possibly Gunner, on Usenet Would

Re: .sig

2003-03-05 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 02:33 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: At 1:08 PM -0800 3/4/03, Tim May quoted: If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're around. --attribution uncertain, possibly Gunner, on

Re: .sig

2003-03-05 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Tim May wrote: Yeah, I agree. It's time I retired that .sig. PLONK. Move .sig. For great justice.

Give peace a chance?

2003-03-05 Thread jayh
Apparently Give peace a chance is dangerous, subversive speech, not to be tolerated in polite company http://www.msnbc.com/local/wnyt/m276307.asp?0ct=-302cp1=1

Re: .sig

2003-03-05 Thread Bill Stewart
At 05:43 PM 03/04/2003 -0800, Tim May wrote: On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 04:57 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Tim May wrote: Yeah, I agree. It's time I retired that .sig. PLONK. Move .sig. For great justice. It's a Slashdot .signature line parody of a line from ZeroWing, aka

Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines

2003-03-05 Thread Thomas Shaddack
Well, some of the proposed ideas may be more efficient, but they don't exactly express my rage accurately... -TD Rage isn't tactical. Don't forget that the revenge is best when consumed cold. :)

Re: How Do I Classify My Item?

2003-03-05 Thread Bill Stewart
At 03:24 PM 03/04/2003 -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Tim May wrote: For those doing the classifying, i.e., those inside government, since when did they start charging each other real folding money for attending meetings? Capitalism maybe ? :-) You mean selling the capitalists

Re: CAPPS II protest - Vandalizing collaborating airlines

2003-03-05 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 07:01 PM, Thomas Shaddack wrote: Well, some of the proposed ideas may be more efficient, but they don't exactly express my rage accurately... -TD Rage isn't tactical. Don't forget that the revenge is best when consumed cold. :) Only sometimes true. More often than

Re: .sig

2003-03-05 Thread Bill Stewart
At 1:08 PM -0800 3/4/03, Tim May quoted: If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're around. --attribution uncertain, possibly Gunner, on Usenet But WAIT! *Which* gun should I hold on to? The Glock

Austin Cypherpunks Physical Meet - Mar. 11

2003-03-05 Thread Jim Choate
Time:Mar. 11, 2003 Second Tuesday of each month 7:00 - 9:00 pm (or later) Location:Central Market HEB Cafe 38th and N. Lamar Weather permitting we meet in the un-covered tables.

Re: Give peace a chance?

2003-03-05 Thread Steve Furlong
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 21:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently Give peace a chance is dangerous, subversive speech, not to be tolerated in polite company http://www.msnbc.com/local/wnyt/m276307.asp?0ct=-302cp1=1 From the article, New York Civil Liberties Union President Stephen Gottlieb

Re: Give cheese to france?

2003-03-05 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:03 PM 3/4/03 -0500, Steve Furlong wrote: From the article, New York Civil Liberties Union President Stephen Gottlieb says, We believe, most of us, in the Bill of Rights, and we believe that protects the freedom to speak. How is Constitutionally- protected freedom of speech imperiled when an

Re: Anarchy, and confusion

2003-03-05 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 01:08 PM 3/4/03 -0800, Tim May wrote: The confusion about anarchy and what it means is common. We see it here. Not sure if this is intended towards us or not. In any case, our comments about dropping 'anarchy' for a BerkFlyer was simply to avoid attracting raisethefist type black shirts.

Re: Anarchy, and confusion

2003-03-05 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:37 AM, Major Variola (ret) wrote: little to ensure freedom. And we doubt that competition between units in an anarchic system would provide islands of freedom. So we are not impressed by crypto anarchy as an informative name; although as agitprop, it functions

Re: CAPSII protest... or, speakers must not be actors

2003-03-05 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 09:56 PM 3/4/03 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: OOOH! One wonders if a bad enough air sickness on a crowded flight could turn a plane back...(And if I say airline sickness I don't need the quotes.) Hummif it happened a dozen times within the span of a month do you think they'd notice a pattern?

Re: Give cheese to france?

2003-03-05 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 09:58:31 -0800, you wrote: At 11:03 PM 3/4/03 -0500, Steve Furlong wrote: From the article, New York Civil Liberties Union President Stephen Gottlieb says, We believe, most of us, in the Bill of Rights, and we believe that protects the freedom to speak. How is

Enemies of the People Who Need Killing

2003-03-05 Thread Anonymous
These fucks need killing immediately. Kill any SCOTUS pig and you will assure your place in Heaven, with 21 beautiful virgins at your command. http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/03/05/three.strikes.ap/index.html So the US military now has no problem with torturing prisoners of war. And the US

Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)

2003-03-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
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Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)

2003-03-05 Thread Tim Dierks
At 02:30 PM 3/5/2003 -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: From: Somebody Technically, since their signal speed is slower than light, even transmission lines act as storage devices. Wire tapping is now legal. The crucial difference, from a law enforcement perspective, is how hard it is to get the

Re: Anarchy, and confusion

2003-03-05 Thread Tyler Durden
Anarchy doesn't mean chaos, with people killing each other at will. No? But what about... I read what some of you folks here write and all I can say is that I hope you are inside the fireballs when the freedom fighters take out the Great Satan. Ah. It's all so clear when you put it like that.

Re: .sig

2003-03-05 Thread Tyler Durden
Republicans are like The Rock and Democrats are like Stone Cold Steve Austin, and elections are like WWF Slap Down. It's fixed, get it? The contest is not between Dems and Repubs, it's between government and the governed. Nice! GOTTA steal that quote (if only there were another board that gave a

Re: CAPSII protest...

2003-03-05 Thread Tyler Durden
OOOH! One wonders if a bad enough air sickness on a crowded flight could turn a plane back...(And if I say airline sickness I don't need the quotes.) Hummif it happened a dozen times within the span of a month do you think they'd notice a pattern? -(the REAL) Tyler Durden From:

Re: Give peace a chance?

2003-03-05 Thread Tyler Durden
Someone should go into that same mall with Support the War in Iraq T-shirts to see if they also get thrown out. What pisses me off is that its probably just some powerless little pion enforcing what they feel is the current accepted, noncontroversial stance. It could be that 90% of the people

thirty year plan

2003-03-05 Thread david
Here's a link to an interesting article about the US plan to control the world's oil supply. It points put the hazard of inviting the wolves to watch your henhouse for you. http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2003/10/ma_273_01.html David Neilson

Re: CAPSII protest... or, speakers must not be actors

2003-03-05 Thread Tyler Durden
and continue to provoke conspiracy to fuck with interstate trade/travel Yeah...was a little drunk when I wrote that. That should clear up right after I convert to Islam! -TD _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2

Re: Who Owns the News

2003-03-05 Thread Peter Gutmann
Eric Cordian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We've pretty much gotten to the point where the only places real news can be found in America these days is on Indymedia and The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. A sad situation for a country with an alleged free press. There was an article in some UK paper