Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-07 Thread juan
On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:34:35 +0700 Jason McVetta wrote: > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 4:44 AM, juan wrote: > > > lolwut?? > > > > Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. I thought we all are already subscribed to "our collective newsletter", AKA

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-07 Thread John Newman
> On Aug 6, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Jason McVetta wrote: > > On Aug 6, 2017 18:00, "Zenaan Harkness" wrote: > > This might sound exceptionally unusual to those who have not > experienced this absud and strange type of human behaviour, but this > "ledger keeping" or "documentation of barter" simply

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-07 Thread Razer
On 08/06/2017 10:42 PM, Jason McVetta wrote: > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:53 PM, Razer > wrote: > > Fuck Graeber and everything he ever wrote. Even if he has any > valid thesis it's not an original thought and I can find similar > elsewhere. Hes a hack. > > > I

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-06 Thread Jason McVetta
On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:53 PM, Razer wrote: > > Fuck Graeber and everything he ever wrote. Even if he has any valid thesis > it's not an original thought and I can find similar elsewhere. Hes a hack. > I neither know, nor very much care, about Graeber's personal & professional background. Howe

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-06 Thread Jason McVetta
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 4:44 AM, juan wrote: > lolwut?? > Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-06 Thread juan
On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 15:15:39 +0700 Jason McVetta quoted graeber: > > WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE between a mere obligation, a sense that > one ought to behave in a certain way, or even that one owes something > to someone, and a debt, properly speaking? The answer is simple: > money. The difference b

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-06 Thread juan
On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 17:34:41 +0700 Jason McVetta wrote: > On Aug 6, 2017 5:24 PM, "juan" wrote: > > OK. Let me translate. People who know fuck about economics and > are brain-dead statists will enjoy their echo chamber in the > form of some shitty propaganda written by so

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-06 Thread Jason McVetta
On Aug 6, 2017 18:00, "Zenaan Harkness" wrote: This might sound exceptionally unusual to those who have not experienced this absud and strange type of human behaviour, but this "ledger keeping" or "documentation of barter" simply does NOT happen - not even in "modern 2017 Australia". Who cares

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-06 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 05:34:41PM +0700, Jason McVetta wrote: > On Aug 6, 2017 5:24 PM, "juan" wrote: > > OK. Let me translate. People who know fuck about economics and > are brain-dead statists will enjoy their echo chamber in the > form of some shitty propaganda written

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-06 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 06:08:00AM -0300, Juan wrote: > On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 15:15:39 +0700 > Jason McVetta wrote: > > > People interested in economics may enjoy reading historian David > > Graeber's excellent book, *Debt: The First 2000 Years*. > > OK. Let me translate. People who know fuck

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-06 Thread Jason McVetta
On Aug 6, 2017 5:24 PM, "juan" wrote: OK. Let me translate. People who know fuck about economics and are brain-dead statists will enjoy their echo chamber in the form of some shitty propaganda written by some charlatan-apologist of the banking mafia. I can tell y

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-06 Thread juan
On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 15:15:39 +0700 Jason McVetta wrote: > People interested in economics may enjoy reading historian David > Graeber's excellent book, *Debt: The First 2000 Years*. OK. Let me translate. People who know fuck about economics and are brain-dead statists will enjoy t

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-06 Thread Jason McVetta
People interested in economics may enjoy reading historian David Graeber's excellent book, *Debt: The First 2000 Years*. (Available free at https://archive.org/details/Debt-The_First_5000_Years) Graeber argues that a) no actually-existing historical society used barter as a primary component of t

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-05 Thread Razer
On 08/05/2017 09:24 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 08:53:28AM -0700, Razer wrote: >> Hackermoon... >> >>> 13.7 billion years ago, the Big Bang brought the universe into >>> existence. 3.8 billion years ago, life first appeared on our planet. >>> 1.9 million years ago, Earth

Re: From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-05 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 08:53:28AM -0700, Razer wrote: > Hackermoon... > > > 13.7 billion years ago, the Big Bang brought the universe into > > existence. 3.8 billion years ago, life first appeared on our planet. > > 1.9 million years ago, Earth witnessed a hominid species, Home > > erectus, walki

From Barter to Blockchains - WTF is… Money?

2017-08-05 Thread Razer
Hackermoon... > 13.7 billion years ago, the Big Bang brought the universe into > existence. 3.8 billion years ago, life first appeared on our planet. > 1.9 million years ago, Earth witnessed a hominid species, Home > erectus, walking upright for the first time. > > And, 7,000 years ago, money was