Re: [darktable-user] Sharpening (round 2)

2017-01-17 Thread I. Ivanov
I think part of the effect (in addition to what the others have found out) is the viewer that you are using. This is in Geeqie - color matched exported at 900 dpi and seen @ 100% https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek5e3me3haq3dn2/Screenshot%20from%202017-01-17%2020-33-12.png?dl=0 This is Geeqie -

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread Guillermo Rozas
> So what do people usually do get the best results? I guess I should use sRGB > for showing it in the browser and just deal with the bad colors Unfortunately, yes. If the picture is for web showing, you'll have to asume that they'll look at it in a non-color managed browser (that will assign

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread Jeena
Hi, That difference seems to be related to color space. Darktable uses a much bigger color space than sRGB (or even AdobeRGB), so when exporting there has to be some mapping between them (that's what the intent option is for). The "soft proof" button in darkroom allows you to switch between

Re: [darktable-user] Not happy with the colours

2017-01-17 Thread Oliver Bedford
Am Dienstag, den 17.01.2017, 20:12 +0100 schrieb Stéphane Gourichon: > Hello, > > Can you share raw, JPEG-from-dt, XMP (and possibly screenshot with > explanations) on some site for others on the list to see ? As I'm reluctant to post personal photos, I can't show you an example with skin

Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?

2017-01-17 Thread junkyardsparkle
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 14:11, Guillermo Rozas wrote: > Try increasing the opencl_memory_headroom parameter as mentioned by > Matthias before. It worked for my 960M for those particular images. Thanks, I will, if I ever need to for my actual use case. Other than an occasional stitched

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread Guillermo Rozas
> here is the RAW: http://jeena.net/t/darktable-raw.NEF > and here the xmp http://jeena.net/t/darktable-raw.NEF.xmp > > I uploaded also a annotated version of my first image > https://jeena.net/t/darktable-export-annotated.png in which "1" is the cloud > which one can see in the Darktable preview

Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?

2017-01-17 Thread junkyardsparkle
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017, at 00:26, Matthieu Moy wrote: > > GeForce GTX 1050 Ti is a 140 $ card, so not a high-end one but not a crappy > one either, and it's 50 % slower than a core i7 for these images. Those benchmark totals don't give a very meaningful overview by themselves. I just installed

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread Jeena
Hi, I'm probably making a very dumb mistake, but when I import your raw+xmp into darktable I get a severely under-exposed image with little resemblance to your jpeg. Is the xmp correct? I have no idea how to work with those xmp files, I just took the file which had the same name as the raw

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread Oliver Bedford
One more question: do you have a style applied when exporting? Oliver darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread I. Ivanov
Also, Firefox can be color managed (but by default it is not turned on) http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/ I use "Geeqie" for color managed viewer in Linux. Regards, B On 2017-01-17 12:46 PM, Michael Below wrote: Hi, I think your problem is Firefox, not darktable. If

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread Michael Below
Hi, I think your problem is Firefox, not darktable. If Firefox has to scale an image by factor 6,something, it is going to do it roughly and throw away stuff. If the Gnome image viewer and darktable agree, then your system seems to be setup alright. Try uploading a correctly sized image for the

Re: [darktable-user] thumbnails do not match file

2017-01-17 Thread I. Ivanov
On 2017-01-17 12:25 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * I. Ivanov [01-17-17 11:52]: On 2017-01-16 02:15 AM, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: Am Sonntag, 15. Januar 2017, 22:22:12 CET schrieb I. Ivanov: Hi Guys, I stumbled on an odd behavior. DT 2.2.1 on Ubuntu 16.04. I did the

Re: [darktable-user] thumbnails do not match file

2017-01-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* I. Ivanov [01-17-17 11:52]: > > > On 2017-01-16 02:15 AM, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 15. Januar 2017, 22:22:12 CET schrieb I. Ivanov: > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > I stumbled on an odd behavior. DT 2.2.1 on Ubuntu 16.04. I did the > > > following: > > > > > > 1.

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread Jeena
Hi, I see JPEG is on https://jeena.net/photos/265 . Yes, the direct link is: https://jeena.net/system/photos/photos/000/000/265/original/kallbadhuset-varberg-night_08.jpg and this is a JPEG which does look like the edit preview in Darktable when I look at it in GNOME Image Viewer but loses

Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?

2017-01-17 Thread Patrick Rudin
schrieb Germano Massullo : > And keep in mind that OpenCL capabilities are coming into FOSS driver > soon. At least, the numbers look good, no big differences between ROCm and PRO on RX460 and RX480: http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=24028 Still a way to go, but

Re: [darktable-user] thumbnails do not match file

2017-01-17 Thread I. Ivanov
On 2017-01-17 07:01 AM, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: Am Montag, 16. Januar 2017, 09:59:30 CET schrieb I. Ivanov: On 2017-01-16 02:15 AM, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: Am Sonntag, 15. Januar 2017, 22:22:12 CET schrieb I. Ivanov: Hi Guys, I stumbled on an odd behavior. DT 2.2.1 on Ubuntu 16.04. I did

[darktable-user] Re: what graphics card to get?

2017-01-17 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
Am 17.01.2017 um 12:47 schrieb matth...@bodenbinder.de: > Am 2017-01-17 8:21, schrieb Colin Adams: > >> >> How do you arrive at that figure? >> > I did a lot of testing. ;-) > > For your reference: Here is the thread I started in 2014: >

Re: [darktable-user] thumbnails do not match file

2017-01-17 Thread Frank J.
Am 16.01.2017 um 07:22 schrieb I. Ivanov: ... > Anybody seen this? ... > > Regards, > B Maybe you changed a lot af pictures and then ended DT before the background-processes had time to build new thumbs. Frank

Re: [darktable-user] thumbnails do not match file

2017-01-17 Thread Frank J.
Am 16.01.2017 um 18:59 schrieb I. Ivanov: ... > ... - I would remove them from there, move them on NAS > (it is actually a USB drive connected to the router) and re import the > images from this "archive" location. ... > Regards, > B I also move from SSD-Workroom to HDD-Archiv when the work is

Re: [darktable-user] Not happy with the colours

2017-01-17 Thread Stéphane Gourichon
Hello, Can you share raw, JPEG-from-dt, XMP (and possibly screenshot with explanations) on some site for others on the list to see ? Le 17/01/2017 à 19:28, Oliver Bedford a écrit : I'm not really happy with the colours dt produces from the raw files of my Canon EOS M3. E.g. in a photo taken

[darktable-user] Not happy with the colours

2017-01-17 Thread Oliver Bedford
I'm not really happy with the colours dt produces from the raw files of my Canon EOS M3. E.g. in a photo taken of someone on a bright day in snow, the OOC jpegs have more saturation and brightness in the sky, the snow looks cooler (especially the shadows have more blue), whereas the skin tones

Re: [darktable-user] Sharpening (round 2)

2017-01-17 Thread darktable
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:21:54 -0800 "I. Ivanov" wrote: >You may want to provide a raw file and xmp so we can test. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7HTmJCO2gG7WDl1NUVxbVQ3aGs/view?usp=sharing -- sknahT vyS

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Michael [01-17-17 09:29]: > Pleases reply all. I want to know the results of this conversation. > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 3:09 AM, Jeena wrote: > > > Hi, > > > >> If all we get is before and after images, without any information about > >> settings, we

Re: [darktable-user] Sharpening (round 2)

2017-01-17 Thread darktable
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 07:23:54 +0100 Remco Viëtor wrote: >But what do you do exactly in that extra style you apply on export? Only frame and watermark >And what's the exact command you use to mogrify your images? it was: mogrify -quality "85%" -resize 900x900 but I did

Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?

2017-01-17 Thread Germano Massullo
I downloaded the following RAWs+XML settings files [1] used by Phoronix in the benchmarks [2]. Then I forced my system to use AMDGPU-Pro OpenCL stack even if the system is using the kernel FOSS drivers[3] $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/amdgpu-pro/lib64 LANG=C darktable -d perf -d dev -d opencl and I

Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?

2017-01-17 Thread Šarūnas
On 2017-01-16 11:23, Patrick Rudin wrote: > schrieb Michael Born : >> I'm running a RX480 with MESA OpenGL (because, I like open source) >> and the OpenCL libs from the AMDGPU-PRO driver (see >> http://www.gearsongallium.com/?p=2960 ) >> Darktable works fine with this. >

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread Michael
Pleases reply all. I want to know the results of this conversation. On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 3:09 AM, Jeena wrote: > Hi, > >> If all we get is before and after images, without any information about >> settings, we can only guess at what the problem is... >> > > What kind of

Re: [darktable-user] Sharpening (round 2)

2017-01-17 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Dienstag, 17. Januar 2017, 08:16:46 CET schrieb Matthieu Moy: [...] > You're viewing your images at a zoom level different from 100%, so you're > not only benchmarking your rescaling tool (dt Vs mogrify), but also your > image viewer's rescaling. > > Don't do that. If you want to compare the

Re: [darktable-user] Re: what graphics card to get?

2017-01-17 Thread Colin Adams
Thanks! On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 at 11:47 wrote: > Am 2017-01-17 8:21, schrieb Colin Adams: > > > How do you arrive at that figure? > > I did a lot of testing. ;-) > > For your reference: Here is the thread I started in 2014: > >

Re: [darktable-user] Re: what graphics card to get?

2017-01-17 Thread matthias
Am 2017-01-17 8:21, schrieb Colin Adams: > How do you arrive at that figure? I did a lot of testing. ;-) For your reference: Here is the thread I started in 2014: https://www.mail-archive.com/darktable-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg05054.html In that thread you will find a few of my postings

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread Remco Viëtor
On mardi 17 janvier 2017 09:09:32 CET Jeena wrote: > Hi, > > > If all we get is before and after images, without any information about > > settings, we can only guess at what the problem is... > > What kind of settings should I provide? If I knew on which settings to > work, I'd be able to test

Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get?

2017-01-17 Thread Matthieu Moy
- Original Message - > From: "Guillermo Rozas" > To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:39:22 AM > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] what graphics card to get? >> Guillermo Rozas: >> >> * any supported GPU will give massive

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread 12li...@gadz.org
For my exported JPEG to match DT preview I had to use gnome image viewer. Other viewers tested seems not to be color managed. Regards Thomas Le 17 janv. 2017 9:09 AM, "Jeena" a écrit : > Hi, > >> If all we get is before and after images, without any information about >>

Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPEGS always darker and more satuated

2017-01-17 Thread Jeena
Hi, If all we get is before and after images, without any information about settings, we can only guess at what the problem is... What kind of settings should I provide? If I knew on which settings to work, I'd be able to test things myself. /Jeena