[Debconf-discuss] Beta testing Zagreb-Banja Luka bus

2011-07-17 Thread Moray Allan
Hi,

I just arrived in Banja Luka a little while ago, after beta testing
the connections from Zagreb airport.  I of course wanted to make sure
that this was a fair test, so:

- It was arranged that the plane escaped from London Heathrow an hour
late after a long wait for a take-off slot following boarding,
reducing my two hour connection time in Zagreb to one hour.

- To make sure that I was tired out, I spent the flight reading a
novel in Spanish while the child next to me distracted me by singing
and trying to draw on my arm, and the baby two seats over cried
loudly.

On arrival at Zagreb, I as usual chose an appropriate standing
location on the bus from plane to terminal so that I was towards the
front of the queue for passport control, and was then lucky that my
bag was one of the first onto the conveyor belt.  These bits might
seem like cheating, but, sorry, I did want to try to catch the first
bus to Banja Luka.

Reverting to non-cheating mode (and since I had some, but not much,
Croatian money with me) I left the airport terminal and put my luggage
in the bus directly outside and got on it, around 21.15, after being
assured by the driver that yes it was going to the bus station and it
would leave in five minutes, instead of looking for a taxi to the
bus station.  After a while the driver came through the bus selling
tickets (30 Kn each).  I noticed that one couple didn't have local
currency, and the driver appeared to accept €10 for the two of them
instead.

The bus left between 21.25 and 21.30 after it was almost full, and
took 20-25 minutes to reach its terminus at the bus station, arriving
about 21.50.  It stopped a couple of times on the way, but these were
fairly obviously just brief roadside halts.  The bus stopped in an
overspill car park outside the main bus station area, and the obvious
pedestrian entrance/exit from this area was closed (perhaps just
because it was the evening), so I left via the way we'd come in,
crossing over to the main bus station.  After checking the way with
someone waiting for a bus, I then went upstairs (just taking any of
the stairs going up from the bus 'platforms') and followed the exit
signs along to the ticket desks.  There was some complicated signage
above these, but the guy at the first desk I tried was happy to sell
me a ticket for the 22.00 bus to Banja Luka (108 Kn, as the wiki had
said).   He pointed out to me the platform number (marked PERON on
the ticket).

After going back along and down the stairs to the right place, I found
the bus waiting, and put my bag in the hold.  This time there was a 12
Kn fee for checking a bag, in return for which I got a receipt
matching a tag put on the bag.  (This is fairly standard on Balkan
buses, but doesn't apply to the bus from the airport to the bus
station.)  The main ticket had something that may have been a seat
number, but if it was then people were ignoring them to spread out --
the bus was about half full.

We arrived at the Croatian border about 23.40, and left the Bosnian
border about 00.20.  At the Croatian border we all had to get off the
bus, show our passports, then get back on one by one, while at the
Bosnian border someone collected all the passports from us on the bus,
and took them off to stamp, then someone from the bus company gave
them back to us after we had started driving again.

At about 00.40 we stopped at a cafe for people to smoke/use the
toilets/stretch their legs, departing again about 1.05.

We arrived at the Banja Luka bus station at about 1.35.  Some time
before this we'd passed a big sign for the city and a second sign with
a long list of twinned towns; the bus station itself was mostly just
an open-air car park, but they announced Banja Luka over the bus
speakers as we drove in, and it was the first major stop of the
journey.  (A few people had got off immediately after the border
earlier.)

At this time of night it wasn't completely obvious which way to go
from the bus, but while I was looking around, a taxi driver spotted me
and offered his services.  By the end of the ride to Hotel Bosna the
meter was at about 8 KM.  As I didn't have the right money for this, I
told him to wait -- he didn't speak English, but mentioning 'bank' and
leaving my bags in the car gave the right message -- and popped into
the hotel lobby to use the ATM there.  (If I hadn't known there was an
ATM in the Hotel Bosna lobby, I'd have asked him to stop at a bank on
the way, given that I hadn't waited around to look for a possible ATM
around the bus terminal.)

After paying the taxi-driver and collecting my bag, giving my passport
(along with a greeting) was sufficient for the guy on the hotel
check-in desk to find me on a list of DebConf people and give me a
room key.  I'm just writing this note from the hotel wireless while I
remember details, and look forward to meeting up with everyone here in
the morning. :)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] CCC camp after debconf

2011-07-17 Thread Martín Ferrari
Hi Micah,

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 17:43, Micah Anderson mi...@riseup.net wrote:

 Is anyone planning on sticking around to go to the CCC camp afterwards?
 I'm hoping to go, if I can pull together the cash, and I'm curious if
 others are going to stick around that long?

I have already bought my ticket!! I still don't know where I will
sleep and that kind of trivialities, but I'll be there :)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Beta testing Zagreb-Banja Luka bus

2011-07-17 Thread Moray Allan
Trying again, as it seems this didn't get anywhere yet:

On 7/17/11, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote:
 Hi,

 I just arrived in Banja Luka a little while ago, after beta testing
 the connections from Zagreb airport.  I of course wanted to make sure
 that this was a fair test, so:

 - It was arranged that the plane escaped from London Heathrow an hour
 late after a long wait for a take-off slot following boarding,
 reducing my two hour connection time in Zagreb to one hour.

 - To make sure that I was tired out, I spent the flight reading a
 novel in Spanish while the child next to me distracted me by singing
 and trying to draw on my arm, and the baby two seats over cried
 loudly.

 On arrival at Zagreb, I as usual chose an appropriate standing
 location on the bus from plane to terminal so that I was towards the
 front of the queue for passport control, and was then lucky that my
 bag was one of the first onto the conveyor belt.  These bits might
 seem like cheating, but, sorry, I did want to try to catch the first
 bus to Banja Luka.

 Reverting to non-cheating mode (and since I had some, but not much,
 Croatian money with me) I left the airport terminal and put my luggage
 in the bus directly outside and got on it, around 21.15, after being
 assured by the driver that yes it was going to the bus station and it
 would leave in five minutes, instead of looking for a taxi to the
 bus station.  After a while the driver came through the bus selling
 tickets (30 Kn each).  I noticed that one couple didn't have local
 currency, and the driver appeared to accept €10 for the two of them
 instead.

 The bus left between 21.25 and 21.30 after it was almost full, and
 took 20-25 minutes to reach its terminus at the bus station, arriving
 about 21.50.  It stopped a couple of times on the way, but these were
 fairly obviously just brief roadside halts.  The bus stopped in an
 overspill car park outside the main bus station area, and the obvious
 pedestrian entrance/exit from this area was closed (perhaps just
 because it was the evening), so I left via the way we'd come in,
 crossing over to the main bus station.  After checking the way with
 someone waiting for a bus, I then went upstairs (just taking any of
 the stairs going up from the bus 'platforms') and followed the exit
 signs along to the ticket desks.  There was some complicated signage
 above these, but the guy at the first desk I tried was happy to sell
 me a ticket for the 22.00 bus to Banja Luka (108 Kn, as the wiki had
 said).   He pointed out to me the platform number (marked PERON on
 the ticket).

 After going back along and down the stairs to the right place, I found
 the bus waiting, and put my bag in the hold.  This time there was a 12
 Kn fee for checking a bag, in return for which I got a receipt
 matching a tag put on the bag.  (This is fairly standard on Balkan
 buses, but doesn't apply to the bus from the airport to the bus
 station.)  The main ticket had something that may have been a seat
 number, but if it was then people were ignoring them to spread out --
 the bus was about half full.

 We arrived at the Croatian border about 23.40, and left the Bosnian
 border about 00.20.  At the Croatian border we all had to get off the
 bus, show our passports, then get back on one by one, while at the
 Bosnian border someone collected all the passports from us on the bus,
 and took them off to stamp, then someone from the bus company gave
 them back to us after we had started driving again.

 At about 00.40 we stopped at a cafe for people to smoke/use the
 toilets/stretch their legs, departing again about 1.05.

 We arrived at the Banja Luka bus station at about 1.35.  Some time
 before this we'd passed a big sign for the city and a second sign with
 a long list of twinned towns; the bus station itself was mostly just
 an open-air car park, but they announced Banja Luka over the bus
 speakers as we drove in, and it was the first major stop of the
 journey.  (A few people had got off immediately after the border
 earlier.)

 At this time of night it wasn't completely obvious which way to go
 from the bus, but while I was looking around, a taxi driver spotted me
 and offered his services.  By the end of the ride to Hotel Bosna the
 meter was at about 8 KM.  As I didn't have the right money for this, I
 told him to wait -- he didn't speak English, but mentioning 'bank' and
 leaving my bags in the car gave the right message -- and popped into
 the hotel lobby to use the ATM there.  (If I hadn't known there was an
 ATM in the Hotel Bosna lobby, I'd have asked him to stop at a bank on
 the way, given that I hadn't waited around to look for a possible ATM
 around the bus terminal.)

 After paying the taxi-driver and collecting my bag, giving my passport
 (along with a greeting) was sufficient for the guy on the hotel
 check-in desk to find me on a list of DebConf people and give me a
 room key.  I'm just writing this note from the hotel wireless while 

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho

2011-07-17 Thread Marc Haber
Hi,

On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 06:58:28PM +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote:
 Our gold sponsor Mtel has decided to give *every* DebConf11 attendee a
 phone number and package along with it! I got too excited so I'm not
 sure I got it right but I think this is the package they mentioned:
 http://www.mtel.ba/menu/2265

This is really good news (being some five weeks old) and will
greatly ease communications.

Do we already have hold of the SIMs, and it is possible to know ones
own Mtel mobile number in advance, so that one can arrange for call
forwarding before starting traveling?

Greetings
Marc

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho

2011-07-17 Thread Adnan Hodzic
We'll get these SIM's delivered tomorrow, and we can start giving them
out immediately.

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Marc Haber
mh+debconf-disc...@zugschlus.de wrote:
 Hi,

 On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 06:58:28PM +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote:
 Our gold sponsor Mtel has decided to give *every* DebConf11 attendee a
 phone number and package along with it! I got too excited so I'm not
 sure I got it right but I think this is the package they mentioned:
 http://www.mtel.ba/menu/2265

 This is really good news (being some five weeks old) and will
 greatly ease communications.

 Do we already have hold of the SIMs, and it is possible to know ones
 own Mtel mobile number in advance, so that one can arrange for call
 forwarding before starting traveling?

 Greetings
 Marc

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[Debconf-discuss] Thinkpad TracPoint replacement rubber cap

2011-07-17 Thread Philip Hands
Hi,

It would be very useful is someone could provide me with a new rubber
bit to put on the TrackPoint on my X200 -- I know there were some spares
that came with it, but they're in London while I'm in Banja Luka, and it
seems that the one that's fitted to mine at present is stretched enough
so that it's now becoming almost completely useless.

I'm very happy to pay in cash or beer for such an item :-)

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho

2011-07-17 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sonntag, 17. Juli 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote:
 We'll get these SIM's delivered tomorrow, and we can start giving them
 out immediately.

someone will then need to track who got a card. 

and handing out bags will be a bit more complicated as we'll keep on doing 
this even when we give out the bags, as we dont know if the bag will go to 
someone who already got a sim or not.

so if start out handing sim cards tomorrow, someone will have to take notes 
until _all_ sim cards where given away.

unless we get so many that we can afford some people taking 2 or 3 sim 
cards...


cheers,
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho

2011-07-17 Thread Moray Allan
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote:
 so if start out handing sim cards tomorrow, someone will have to take notes
 until _all_ sim cards where given away.

penta flag?

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[Debconf-discuss] Fwd: Re: Ho Ho Ho

2011-07-17 Thread Vedran Omeragic

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On 07/17/2011 03:32 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
 On Sonntag, 17. Juli 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote:
 We'll get these SIM's delivered tomorrow, and we can start
 giving them out immediately.

 someone will then need to track who got a card.

 and handing out bags will be a bit more complicated as we'll keep
 on doing this even when we give out the bags, as we dont know if
 the bag will go to someone who already got a sim or not.

 so if start out handing sim cards tomorrow, someone will have to
 take notes until _all_ sim cards where given away.

 unless we get so many that we can afford some people taking 2 or 3
 sim cards...


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I could do this. I'll just make a txt file and keep it on debconf-team
so we ca  track who got sim card and what number.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Thinkpad TracPoint replacement rubber cap

2011-07-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-07-17 at 12:15pm, Philip Hands wrote:
 It would be very useful is someone could provide me with a new rubber 
 bit to put on the TrackPoint on my X200 -- I know there were some 
 spares that came with it, but they're in London while I'm in Banja 
 Luka, and it seems that the one that's fitted to mine at present is 
 stretched enough so that it's now becoming almost completely useless.
 
 I'm very happy to pay in cash or beer for such an item :-)

I am leaving in 5 minutes for the train across Europe.  I just spent 
more than an hour searching for my miniSD adapter and now have a fresh 
recollection of where all my stuff is, including 2 spare rubber pieces.  
I'll bring those along! :-)


See you all soon!

 - Jonas

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Fwd: Re: Ho Ho Ho

2011-07-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-07-17 at 03:41pm, Vedran Omeragic wrote:
 I could do this. I'll just make a txt file and keep it on debconf-team 
 so we ca track who got sim card and what number.

 1) Register the long serial on the SIM together with phone number.
 2) Produce a pile of identical small notes with this text:
Please text (a.k.a. sms) your name to this number
 3) Hand out SIM + note, and register phone number together with user.
 4) Wait for users to report back - as a verification.

...and optional:

 5) Setup Kannel to receive all name+number reports, publish them on 
some web page, and reply a note telling the URL for the web page.

I'd be happy to help with 5) after tomorrow when I arrive - if 
interested.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Thinkpad TracPoint replacement rubber cap

2011-07-17 Thread Philip Hands
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:07:12 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
 On 11-07-17 at 12:15pm, Philip Hands wrote:
  It would be very useful is someone could provide me with a new rubber 
  bit to put on the TrackPoint on my X200 -- I know there were some 
  spares that came with it, but they're in London while I'm in Banja 
  Luka, and it seems that the one that's fitted to mine at present is 
  stretched enough so that it's now becoming almost completely useless.
  
  I'm very happy to pay in cash or beer for such an item :-)
 
 I am leaving in 5 minutes for the train across Europe.  I just spent 
 more than an hour searching for my miniSD adapter and now have a fresh 
 recollection of where all my stuff is, including 2 spare rubber pieces.  
 I'll bring those along! :-)

Perfect -- thanks :-)
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Fwd: Re: Ho Ho Ho

2011-07-17 Thread Vedran Omeragic

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Ok, but Kannel seems to be of no particular use and just a waste of
time. If you'd like to do it, then by all means.

On 07/17/2011 04:19 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 On 11-07-17 at 03:41pm, Vedran Omeragic wrote:
 I could do this. I'll just make a txt file and keep it on
 debconf-team so we ca track who got sim card and what number.

 1) Register the long serial on the SIM together with phone number.
 2) Produce a pile of identical small notes with this text: Please
 text (a.k.a. sms) your name to this number 3) Hand out SIM + note,
 and register phone number together with user. 4) Wait for users to
 report back - as a verification.

 ...and optional:

 5) Setup Kannel to receive all name+number reports, publish them on
 some web page, and reply a note telling the URL for the web page.

 I'd be happy to help with 5) after tomorrow when I arrive - if
 interested.


 - Jonas



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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Dinner!

2011-07-17 Thread Velimir Iveljic
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Velimir Iveljic
veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Velimir Iveljic
 veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Just a reminder that dinner is at 19:00h at hotel Bosna.

 See you all there!

 --
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 Forgot to include -discuss.

 So dinner at 19:00 at hotel Bosna!

 See you there!

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Everyone should go to the reception tell their name and they will
receive a food coupon.
This is a temporary solution for today. I will update you when we have
something better figured out.


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[Debconf-discuss] Ask the Leader - QA session for the DPL at Debconf

2011-07-17 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi all,

One of the events at DebConf that I'm running is a 'Ask the Leader'
session. This is a town hall meeting event, where you have the
opportunity to ask the DPL anything you want!

To make sure we have enough questions on a broad range of topics, I'd
like to get some prepared questions beforehad. Note that the DPL won't
see these, or have time to prepare his answers.
There'll also be a session of questions from the floor.

You don't need to be attending to ask, simply drop a mail to
ne...@debian.org and I'll try and get as many questions put as possible.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Beta testing Zagreb-Banja Luka bus

2011-07-17 Thread Norman Garcia Aguilar
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 01:44:26 +0100
Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I just arrived in Banja Luka a little while ago, after beta testing
 the connections from Zagreb airport.  I of course wanted to make sure
 that this was a fair test, so:
 
 - It was arranged that the plane escaped from London Heathrow an hour
 late after a long wait for a take-off slot following boarding,
 reducing my two hour connection time in Zagreb to one hour.
 
 - To make sure that I was tired out, I spent the flight reading a
 novel in Spanish while the child next to me distracted me by singing
 and trying to draw on my arm, and the baby two seats over cried
 loudly.
 
 On arrival at Zagreb, I as usual chose an appropriate standing
 location on the bus from plane to terminal so that I was towards the
 front of the queue for passport control, and was then lucky that my
 bag was one of the first onto the conveyor belt.  These bits might
 seem like cheating, but, sorry, I did want to try to catch the first
 bus to Banja Luka.

Someone knows how long does it take from plane arriving to getting to the bus 
stop at Zagreb airport? normally waiting for luggage, customs and inmigration?

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Dinner!

2011-07-17 Thread Velimir Iveljic
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Velimir Iveljic
veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Just a reminder that dinner is at 19:00h at hotel Bosna.

 See you all there!

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Forgot to include -discuss.

So dinner at 19:00 at hotel Bosna!

See you there!

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[Debconf-discuss] Zagreb-Banja Luka bus after train

2011-07-17 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 01:44:26AM +0100, Moray Allan wrote:
 I just arrived in Banja Luka a little while ago, after beta testing
 the connections from Zagreb airport.
snip/
 in the bus directly outside and got on it, around 21.15, after being
 assured by the driver that yes it was going to the bus station

Is that bus station Zagreb Glavni Kolodvor near RAILWAY station
Zagreb Glavni Kolodvor?

That question in other words:
Train travellers arriving at Railway station Zagreb Glavni Kolodvor,
do they arrive near a bus station that has a connection to Banja Luka?



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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Dinner!

2011-07-17 Thread Velimir
Fyi, the drinks in the hotel restaurant are not free, there was a mixup and
i was not told about it until just now. :/

Water is free at least!

Velimir
On Jul 17, 2011 5:43 PM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org
wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Velimir Iveljic
 veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Velimir Iveljic
 veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Just a reminder that dinner is at 19:00h at hotel Bosna.

 See you all there!

 --
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 Forgot to include -discuss.

 So dinner at 19:00 at hotel Bosna!

 See you there!

 --
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 Everyone should go to the reception tell their name and they will
 receive a food coupon.
 This is a temporary solution for today. I will update you when we have
 something better figured out.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb-Banja Luka bus after train

2011-07-17 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 09:17:18PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote:
 Is that bus station Zagreb Glavni Kolodvor near RAILWAY station
 Zagreb Glavni Kolodvor?
 
 That question in other words:
 Train travellers arriving at Railway station Zagreb Glavni Kolodvor,
 do they arrive near a bus station that has a connection to Banja Luka?

Try reading:

http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Travel-Arriving#Bus_via_Zagreb_train_station

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Beta testing Zagreb-Banja Luka bus

2011-07-17 Thread Victor Martinez
 Someone knows how long does it take from plane arriving to getting to the bus 
 stop at Zagreb airport? normally waiting for luggage, customs and inmigration?

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From Arriving to get luggage like 10-15 min, passport 5-10min, I just
passed at 21.40hrs, bus to main station bus cost 31hrk (one ATM on bag
line and several just passing passport and customs). The bus took time
to get in motion I must got it at 22.15 and until 22.45 got running at
main bus station you must know that the tickets are sell on the upper
floor. Maybe earlier on it's more busy. I got the idea that was very
fast (except for the wait for the bus to get moving). I'm waiting for
the 02.00 hrs bus to Banja Luka.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Beta testing Zagreb-Banja Luka bus

2011-07-17 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:14:05 -0600, Norman Garcia Aguilar wrote:

 Someone knows how long does it take from plane arriving to getting to the bus 
 stop at Zagreb airport? normally waiting for luggage, customs and inmigration?

We landed at 13.50 or .55 and made the bus at 14.30 including
withdrawing money and (going to the toilet|smoking a cigarette).

Cheers,
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[Debconf-discuss] Food

2011-07-17 Thread Velimir Iveljic
Hi,

just a quick announcement,

Breakfast starts at 6AM and lasts until 10AM.
Lunch starts at 12:30PM and lasts until 14:30PM
Dinner starts at 19:00PM and lasts until 21:00PM

Everyone needs to take food stamps at the reception before lunch and
dinner (no stamps for breakfast needed).


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Fwd: Re: Ho Ho Ho

2011-07-17 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sonntag, 17. Juli 2011, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 On 11-07-17 at 03:41pm, Vedran Omeragic wrote:
  I could do this. I'll just make a txt file and keep it on debconf-team
  so we ca track who got sim card and what number.
 
  1) Register the long serial on the SIM together with phone number.
  2) Produce a pile of identical small notes with this text:
 Please text (a.k.a. sms) your name to this number
  3) Hand out SIM + note, and register phone number together with user.
  4) Wait for users to report back - as a verification.
 
 ...and optional:
 
  5) Setup Kannel to receive all name+number reports, publish them on
 some web page, and reply a note telling the URL for the web page.
 
 I'd be happy to help with 5) after tomorrow when I arrive - if
 interested.

I actually like that we give out sims anonymously :)

(also we dont have a printer yet and this sounds rather complicated and i'm 
sure people would like to use the sims asap - at least i do.)

so i think a simple list on paper (not even svn) will work best.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Beta testing Zagreb-Banja Luka bus

2011-07-17 Thread Aigars Mahinovs
The actual distance is around 20 meters (the bus is right at the exit
from the airport, which 5 meters from the exit from the customs area),
but if multiple flight land at the same time, it could take up to a
half an hour, mostly due to waiting for bags.

I can only fully support Moray's account adding that:
* hustlers could try to get you to ride to Banja Luke in their minibus
- do not go there
* bus drivers do not accept any cards, but there is a plenty of ATMs
at all ends of the bus journeys
* the luggage cost was 1 € for us (actually marked on the ticket)
* bus drivers can give you change for large bills as well
* in Banja Luka the closest ATM to the bus station is inside the bus
station (no Master cards, only VISA)
* the distance to the venue is around 3 kilometers, so taking a bus or
taxi is recommeneded, bus stop is a bit further along after the bus
station and some shops, the ticket costs 1.5KM and you get off right
after you see flashing sign 'Casino' and white sign 'Hotel Bosnia' on
your right, then walk back the 150 meters from that bus stop

Photos and a blog post coming tomorrow after breakfast

On 17 July 2011 21:14, Norman Garcia Aguilar nor...@riseup.net wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 01:44:26 +0100
 Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote:

 Hi,

 I just arrived in Banja Luka a little while ago, after beta testing
 the connections from Zagreb airport.  I of course wanted to make sure
 that this was a fair test, so:

 - It was arranged that the plane escaped from London Heathrow an hour
 late after a long wait for a take-off slot following boarding,
 reducing my two hour connection time in Zagreb to one hour.

 - To make sure that I was tired out, I spent the flight reading a
 novel in Spanish while the child next to me distracted me by singing
 and trying to draw on my arm, and the baby two seats over cried
 loudly.

 On arrival at Zagreb, I as usual chose an appropriate standing
 location on the bus from plane to terminal so that I was towards the
 front of the queue for passport control, and was then lucky that my
 bag was one of the first onto the conveyor belt.  These bits might
 seem like cheating, but, sorry, I did want to try to catch the first
 bus to Banja Luka.

 Someone knows how long does it take from plane arriving to getting to the bus 
 stop at Zagreb airport? normally waiting for luggage, customs and inmigration?

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Beta testing Zagreb-Banja Luka bus

2011-07-17 Thread Victor Martinez
 * in Banja Luka the closest ATM to the bus station is inside the bus
 station (no Master cards, only VISA)

Just to add, if you try Mooray aproach, take in count the ATM at Bonsa
Hotel is also VISA only so I ended pating more for the taxi, as had to
go couple of blocks to locate a bank, with ATM that accept Master
Card, also to add minimum amount it's 50, Taxi was like 7 and ended 10
and the taxist hadnt change for a 50KM

Also Zagreb airport drivers more or less understand english. At main
bus station, on ticket also english is spoken, but drivers don't speak
or understand english/italian/french or spanish, same for taxists at
BL :/

 * the distance to the venue is around 3 kilometers, so taking a bus or
 taxi is recommeneded, bus stop is a bit further along after the bus

Going for breakfast! and then nap and meeting!
See you soon!
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