Re: Fist-time amd64 installation, some questions

2006-08-29 Thread Giacomo Mulas
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: For amd64 there is no benefit in optimization for the specific cpu since there aren't any more different models than amd64 and em46t anyway. So the only benefit you get from a custom kernel is possibly no initrd (that's why I use my own kernel)

Re: Fist-time amd64 installation, some questions

2006-08-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jan De Luyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 27 August 2006 20:48, Jack Malmostoso wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:40:04 +0200, Jan De Luyck wrote: Any pointers are most welcome! The first question is: why do you compile your own kernel? Isn't the Debian one enough? I tend to

Fist-time amd64 installation, some questions

2006-08-27 Thread Jan De Luyck
Hello all, I managed today to get Debian installed on my desktop pc. Said pc is an ABIT KN9-SLI board with an AMD 64x2 AM2 cpu. I upgraded to Sid, and then went on to compile a custom kernel. I think I got nearly everything right, but there are some things that I find very strange, and would

Re: Fist-time amd64 installation, some questions

2006-08-27 Thread Jack Malmostoso
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:40:04 +0200, Jan De Luyck wrote: Any pointers are most welcome! The first question is: why do you compile your own kernel? Isn't the Debian one enough? Does everything work OK with the Debian kernel? -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux

Re: amd64 installation

2006-05-23 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi Karl: In fact I recovered from my mental mess, reasoning approximately as you below. I started yesterday (too late in the day!) the installation and sent a preliminary positive feedback to the list and in particular to Goswin - who generously helped me patiently - a preliminary positive

Re: amd64 installation

2006-05-23 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi Alexander: I need a large disk space during the computations. As already reported preliminarily, I started positively with pure 64 (testing installer), aimed at 32 chroot. I'll resume the installation later today. Hardware was recognized (and etherned was OK on nviadia, not on ethernet or

Re: please summarize amd64 installation steps

2006-05-22 Thread Craig Hagerman
When I did a fresh install of Debian amd64 (couple years ago?) I booted from a live CD (ubuntu has a 64 bit live CD) and did everything from there. ie. partition the disk, create a chroot to where you want the deb root partition, install debootstrap etc and go from there. If you are that

Re: please summarize amd64 installation steps

2006-05-22 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi Craig: You may be right but let me explain, hopefully in the interest to part of the audience too. I am a chemist/biologist and my scope with the workstation is to carry out mechanical and quantum mechanical calculations on molecules. Which cannot be done at any useful level with a pc.

amd64 installation

2006-05-22 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi Craig: I decided to follow your 2nd suggestion (for a non expert like me) to install permanently ubuntu 5.10, albeit with much regret because I had always loved the debian environment, people in the first place. I downloaded the ubuntu *.iso and wrote the ISO 9660 but I forgot to check

amd64 installation

2006-05-22 Thread Francesco Pietra
I forgot a key point: my move to 64 is essentially to double the floating point for the package mpqc, which i use on 32 but it is available as a debian package for the testing. To write papers, sending mail or navigating on internet i would have not thought to 64bit. Hi Craig: I decided to

Re: amd64 installation

2006-05-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Francesco Pietra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I forgot a key point: my move to 64 is essentially to double the floating point for the package mpqc, which i use on 32 but it is available as a debian package for the testing. To write papers, sending mail or navigating on internet i would have

Re: amd64 installation

2006-05-22 Thread Alexander Samad
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: I forgot a key point: my move to 64 is essentially to double the floating point for the package mpqc, which i use on 32 but it is available as a debian package for the testing. To write papers, sending mail or navigating on

Re: amd64 installation

2006-05-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Francesco Pietra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Craig: I decided to follow your 2nd suggestion (for a non expert like me) to install permanently ubuntu 5.10, albeit with much regret because I had always loved the debian environment, people in the first place. I downloaded the ubuntu *.iso

Re: amd64 installation

2006-05-22 Thread Karl Schmidt
Not all of a move to ubuntu is good news. Be aware that it is _not_ like Debian Stable. I tried using ubuntu to install on a AMD64 system and tried to move to Debian stable - turned into a huge mess. Ubuntu could be a version of Debian with 'pinning' of certain packages and a few special

please summarize amd64 installation steps

2006-05-21 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi all: I have followed with particular attention in the last few days all issues on this list related to amd64 debian installation. Just because I have now finally everything ready for a fresh installation on a fresh ready workstation equipped with Tyan K8WE S2895 (bearing video card Pixelview

Re: please summarize amd64 installation steps

2006-05-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Francesco Pietra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all: I have followed with particular attention in the last few days all issues on this list related to amd64 debian installation. Just because I have now finally everything ready for a fresh installation on a fresh ready workstation equipped

Re: AMD64 Installation/Usage-Experience Checklist?

2006-03-12 Thread Gnu-Raiz
On Sunday 12 March 2006 15:07, Tony Freeman wrote: I was just on the Ubuntu site http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5 ... and noted that they have a checklist of sorts for people to report back on their installation and experience using the software. ( scoll down the page to the

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 03:49:54AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and I never messed with an initrd. My understanding is that the purpose of an initrd is to provide an image of a RAMdisk containing the modules the kernel needs to access the root file system; but if the hardware and

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 05:46:48PM -0500, Robert Isaac wrote: You could even save yourself some effort and install Yaird from backports.org :) It wasn't there when I did it. :) Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 03:49:54AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I have a dumbass question: why is yaird necessary at all? Or more accurately, why is an initrd necessary at all? Is it something about 2.6.x kernels? Back when I built 2.4.x kernels for my Athlon XP machine, I follwed

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-24 Thread Ken Bloom
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 09:09:23AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It worked beautifully. A day or two ago, the URL seems to have changed. http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/amd64/ works now. I didn't know port 81 had ever worked on that machine. It is run by one

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 12:21:10PM -0600, Ken Bloom wrote: The package may have been renamed to linux-image-* instead of kernel-image-*. It certainly would have been. :) Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-23 Thread Andrew Syrewicze
On 1/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 09:49:41PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 10:50:22PM +, Jo Shields wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't accepted the new AMD-64 box the computer store has built for me, because I

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 09:09:23AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It worked beautifully. A day or two ago, the URL seems to have changed. http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/amd64/ works now. I didn't know port 81 had ever worked on that machine. It is run by one of my friends. I now have

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-23 Thread Robert Isaac
Upgrading past 2.6.12 requires getting yaird or initramfstools installed on sarge somehow. It can be done however. Yaird is not too hard to backport. You could even save yourself some effort and install Yaird from backports.org :)

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-23 Thread cmetzler
Robert Isaac wrote: Upgrading past 2.6.12 requires getting yaird or initramfstools installed on sarge somehow. It can be done however. Yaird is not too hard to backport. You could even save yourself some effort and install Yaird from backports.org :) OK, I have a dumbass question:

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-22 Thread hendrik
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 09:49:41PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 10:50:22PM +, Jo Shields wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't accepted the new AMD-64 box the computer store has built for me, because I can't get it to run in 64-bit mode. I provided

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 09:55:15PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to sound terminally stupid, but I don't know how to translate a URL like http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian-amd64/pool/main/ into a deb line for /etc/apt/sources.list And how does aptitude figure out which

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-15 Thread Jo Shields
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't accepted the new AMD-64 box the computer store has built for me, because I can't get it to run in 64-bit mode. I provided the sarge net-install CD's for both AMD-64 and the older 386 architectures. The netinstall for AMD64 went fine up to a point (except it

Re: Sarge AMD64 installation won't boot

2006-01-15 Thread hendrik
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 01:52:19PM -0900, Greg Madden wrote: I use debian.csail.mit.edu. Sorry to sound terminally stupid, but I don't know how to translate a URL like http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian-amd64/pool/main/ into a deb line for /etc/apt/sources.list And how does

Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-27 Thread vitko
Really i think that the system had a problem with some network cards or some Motherboards, because I try to install debian AMD64 on my new MSI K8N Neo4 that use nvidia nforce 4 chipset and Debian AMD64 didn't detect I'm running 32 bit Sarge on the same hardware (K8N Neo4) with kernel 2.6.13.1

Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 09:17:01PM -0400, Julian Bolivar wrote: Really i think that the system had a problem with some network cards or some Motherboards, because I try to install debian AMD64 on my new MSI K8N Neo4 that use nvidia nforce 4 chipset and Debian AMD64 didn't detect any network

Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-26 Thread Julian Bolivar
Hi, Really i think that the system had a problem with some network cards or some Motherboards, because I try to install debian AMD64 on my new MSI K8N Neo4 that use nvidia nforce 4 chipset and Debian AMD64 didn't detect any network card during the install process and after that. When the

Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:43:50PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: You should set the Mail-Followup-To header appropriately. Otherwise I guess many mailreaders default to CC the author. Mail-Followup-To is ignored by many mail clients too, given it doesn't appear to actually be a standard.

Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 08:40:00AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:43:50PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: You should set the Mail-Followup-To header appropriately. Otherwise I guess many mailreaders default to CC the author. Mail-Followup-To is ignored by many

Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 10:57:06PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Which Mutt are you using? The one I've used for years does certainly use the Mail-Followup-To header when I list List reply. Hmm, I thought it used the mailing list header. Certainly when hitting reply it just uses the from field.

Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-02 Thread Matthias Julius
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes: Mail-Followup-To is ignored by many mail clients too, given it doesn't appear to actually be a standard. You are right. It is not a standard. It is just a proposal. But, I think it is usefull. And I think people shoul use it. That way it might

Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-02 Thread jmdeleu
I'm suscribed to many debian-related lists, this seems to be the only one where people reply to the list in any way they want to. When people answer the poster directly instead of the list, could they at least cc the list name without adding any extra garbage anywhere in that cc header. It's

Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 06:31:07PM -0400, jmdeleu wrote: It's becoming complicated to write procmail recipes. It shouldn't be - just match on the X-Mailing-List or List-Id headers. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 12:21:36AM -0400, Xiaozheng Ma wrote: I am installing AMD64 to my new computer, which has Abit ax8 motherboard. The installer could not find network device (or configed my network) with auto-detect DHCP option. After I manually set the network ip etc, It still

Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:35:18AM -0300, Stephen Cormier wrote: I have a Abit KV8 Pro with I think the same netcard builtin and it would not recognize it either. Try using the CTRL + ALT +F2 keys at the same time to switch to the second virtual terminal then use modprobe via-velocity to

Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-01 Thread Stephen Cormier
On September 1, 2005 11:21 am, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:35:18AM -0300, Stephen Cormier wrote: I have a Abit KV8 Pro with I think the same netcard builtin and it would not recognize it either. Try using the CTRL + ALT +F2 keys at the same time to switch to the

Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 12:00:25PM -0300, Stephen Cormier wrote: Thanks for the information I had experienced the same problem with the installer and thought that the Giga lan was the same with the newer via chipset they have on the board. BTW please do not CC me I am subscribed and read

Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-01 Thread Stephen Cormier
On September 1, 2005 12:59 pm, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 12:00:25PM -0300, Stephen Cormier wrote: Thanks for the information I had experienced the same problem with the installer and thought that the Giga lan was the same with the newer via chipset they have on the

Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:04:08PM -0300, Stephen Cormier wrote: Aside from your opinion of mail reader design decisions it is against the Debian mailing list code of conduct to CC people unless specifically asked to do so. I will try to remember to hit the correct key. If only all mailing

Re: Code of Conduct was Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-09-01 Thread Matthias Julius
Stephen Cormier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aside from your opinion of mail reader design decisions it is against the Debian mailing list code of conduct to CC people unless specifically asked to do so. You should set the Mail-Followup-To header appropriately. Otherwise I guess many

network card on AMD64 installation

2005-08-31 Thread Xiaozheng Ma
Dear All, I am installing AMD64 to my new computer, which has Abit ax8 motherboard. The installer could not find network device (or configed my network) with auto-detect DHCP option. After I manually set the network ip etc, It still couldn't work. The ax8 has an integrated network card (i

Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-08-31 Thread Stephen Cormier
On September 1, 2005 01:21 am, Xiaozheng Ma wrote: Dear All, I am installing AMD64 to my new computer, which has Abit ax8 motherboard. The installer could not find network device (or configed my network) with auto-detect DHCP option. After I manually set the network ip etc, It still couldn't

Re: network card on AMD64 installation

2005-08-31 Thread Stephen Cormier
On September 1, 2005 01:21 am, Xiaozheng Ma wrote: Dear All, I am installing AMD64 to my new computer, which has Abit ax8 motherboard. The installer could not find network device (or configed my network) with auto-detect DHCP option. After I manually set the network ip etc, It still couldn't

Re: AMD64 installation problem

2005-02-14 Thread the owner
Tobias wrote: -- Hi, first of all I want to thank anyone who made this AMD64 port possible. But now here are my experiences: The system is a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum (S939 nForce4 Ultra) with a SATA-2 HDD on the primary nForce SATA-2 port. For my first installation attempt I used the 125MB

AMD64 installation problem

2005-02-11 Thread Tobias Prousa
Hi, first of all I want to thank anyone who made this AMD64 port possible. But now here are my experiences: The system is a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum (S939 nForce4 Ultra) with a SATA-2 HDD on the primary nForce SATA-2 port. For my first installation attempt I used the 125MB netinst iso

AMD64 installation problem

2005-02-11 Thread Tobias Prousa
Hi, (sorry to send this again but the first time it went to the false thread because I'm really stupid ;-) first of all I want to thank anyone who made this AMD64 port possible. But now here are my experiences: The system is a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum (S939 nForce4 Ultra) with a SATA-2 HDD on

Re: AMD64 installation problem

2005-02-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Tobias Prousa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, first of all I want to thank anyone who made this AMD64 port possible. But now here are my experiences: The system is a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum (S939 nForce4 Ultra) with a SATA-2 HDD on the primary nForce SATA-2 port. For my first installation

Re: AMD64 installation problem

2005-02-11 Thread the owner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For my first installation attempt I used the 125MB netinst iso (2005-01-24 I think). Installation worked quite fine with that one exception that it had no networking modules and no support for [reiserfs | ext3 | xfs ] so I had to use ext2 which I really don't like for a

Re: amd64 installation images

2004-09-08 Thread Peter Cordes
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 04:38:00PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: If I get the idea correctly, this is what happens basically: 1) kernel and initrd get loaded 2) modules from initrd are loaded as far as they are needed to get additional software (packages, modules) from the net.

Re: amd64 installation images

2004-09-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow [u] wrote on 06/09/2004 21:04: Sven Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am planning to deploy the amd64/pure64 version of Debian on a new system. However while investigating the netinst images at

amd64 installation images

2004-09-06 Thread Sven Mueller
Hi. I am planning to deploy the amd64/pure64 version of Debian on a new system. However while investigating the netinst images at http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-installer/daily/netboot/ I noticed that the initrd misses something I would need in there: the 3ware 3w-.ko and/or

Re: amd64 installation images

2004-09-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi. I am planning to deploy the amd64/pure64 version of Debian on a new system. However while investigating the netinst images at http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-installer/daily/netboot/ I noticed that the initrd misses something I would