Re: network-manager for laptop users who install desktop task as well.

2008-11-26 Thread Christian Perrier
(dropping -release which is not a discussion list)

Quoting Andrew Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Otavio Salvador wrote:
  If we add it to laptop-desktop it will be installed in KDE too. What
  is not what we want I guess.
 
 You are right, we shouldn't do it that way. I guess we may solve this
 problem by have an additional -laptop task for each current desktop tasks.
 eg: gnome-desktop-laptop, kde-desktop-laptop, xfce-desktop-laptop,
 lxde-desktop-laptop


I find this much too atomic.

Currently, users who choose the GNOME or KDE tasks *do* get stuff  for
laptops even if they don't have a laptopwhich is perfectly
acceptable, IMHO. 

Similarly, if there is a good network management stuff for lightweight
desktop environments, it should be added to these environments,
period. Whether this may sometimes be extra stuff for people who do
use old computers shouldn't be that a problemat least not more
than other components of these desktop environments.

When I choose a desktop environment, I usually get a CD/DVD burner
even if I don't have on on my current machine. And, indeed, I just do
not care..:-)




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Bug#506954: debian-installer: please include host command on netinst cds

2008-11-26 Thread Holger Wansing
Package: debian-installer
Severity: wishlist


Please include host command on netinst cds (and probably on
businesscard cds). 
Having it, would make it easily possible, to install additional
packages from a mirror after installation.

And:
network configuration is an essential part of install procedure.
To use global network connection, you need DNS working, or have I
missed something?



Kind regards
Holger






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Re: r56775 - trunk/packages/base-installer/debian

2008-11-26 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 24 November 2008, Ian Campbell wrote:
 This was deliberate since I'm not an uploader I didn't think it could
 be my name which went there.

That does not matter. The signature line is always updated before the 
upload with the correct name and date. It is more important to _have_ a 
valid signature line as otherwise some tools may break.

 I've fixed both issues now.

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Bug#504721: Possible reason for serial console misdetection

2008-11-26 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:15:47PM +, Jurij Smakov wrote:
 The logic in reopen-console is the following:
 [… a very good analysis …]
 So, the problem is that reopen-console gives preference to the value 
 in 'console handover' line, which is incorrect on sparc (refers to a 
 real terminal console even if one is connecting through serial). If it 
 is obvious, that sparc is unique that way, and it works correctly on 
 other arches, the following (untested) patch might do the trick: […]

In order to implement this, I have tried to understand the kernel logic
by reading at the relevant part of its source code as I have not been
able to find any relevant documentation about all this.

Bastian mentioned the console handover message while the issue was
initally discussed, but I might just have been entirely wrong in my
understanding of its meaning.

 I'll try to ask around and see whether current console detection in 
 reopen-console is correct for other arches.

It would be really great if you could come up with a definite answer on
this! :)

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Re: Debian Installer Meeting this coming Saturday 29 November at 20:00 UTC

2008-11-26 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Aníbal Monsalve Salazar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 There will be a Debian Installer Meeting on Saturday 29 November at
 20:00 UTC.
 
 More information is available at the wiki page below.
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Meetings/Coordination

I updated that page with the meeting agenda.

I also moved out old topics we kept from former meetings, back in
2007. Maybe some day we will want to discuss them..:)




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Re: Debian Installer Meeting this coming Saturday 29 November at 20:00 UTC

2008-11-26 Thread Ian Campbell
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 21:19 +1100, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
 There will be a Debian Installer Meeting on Saturday 29 November at
 20:00 UTC.

Are these meetings minuted anywhere? (by which I probably mean are the
IRC logs available) 

Thanks,
Ian.
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Re: Debian Installer Meeting this coming Saturday 29 November at 20:00 UTC

2008-11-26 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Ian Campbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 21:19 +1100, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
  There will be a Debian Installer Meeting on Saturday 29 November at
  20:00 UTC.
 
 Are these meetings minuted anywhere? (by which I probably mean are the
 IRC logs available) 


In the past they were...

We revived meetings only very recently after a big gap since September
2007.

I can grab back the logs of the last two meetings we had, still. Will
try to do that.

.../...

Almost done. However, the very last meeting was noisy because of quite
rude exchanges and discussions inside the team. They were made in
public, so theoretically qualify for being published. However, I think
that everybody has the right to forget and be forgotten and I would
like to have the involved people opinion about the following options:

- publish Nov. 11th meeting log entirely
- remove the flaming it contains, taking the risk of making things a
little bit harder to follow
- not publish the meeting log






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Debian Installer Meeting this coming Saturday 29 November at 20:00 UTC

2008-11-26 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
There will be a Debian Installer Meeting on Saturday 29 November at
20:00 UTC.

More information is available at the wiki page below.

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Meetings/Coordination

Please add your agenda items at the above wiki page where you could find
a number of agenda items already there.

Saturday 29 November 2008 20:00 UTC is also:

Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:00:00 -0800 US/Pacific
Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:00:00 -0500 US/Eastern
Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:00:00 -0200 Brazil/East
Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:00:00 + Zulu
Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:00:00 +0100 Europe/Paris
Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:00:00 +1100 Australia/Melbourne


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Re: Installation-report: no keyboard on first boot

2008-11-26 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:24:26PM -0500, Jean-Marc Ranger wrote:
 The only thing I can think of is that I selected the this system only  
 initrd generation option.  Is there a way to change this without fully  
 reinstalling ?

Use the rescue mode of the debian-installer, then use the shell inside
the target to issue the following:
  # rm /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/driver-policy
  # update-initramfs -k all -u

This will revert to the most setting for driver inclusion.

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Re: Installation report on lxde CD

2008-11-26 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 26 November 2008, Deng Xiyue wrote:
 I've downloaded the lxde CD[1] and installed with desktop task in a
 virtualbox emulator.  The whole process goes smoothly, and booted with
 no problem.  However, there are some component lacked, and it turns
 out that's because only lxde-core was installed, instead of lxde.
 Moreover, lxde is not installable, as some of its dependencies are not
 available on the lxde CD, such as theme engine and xarchiver, which
 the latter is strictly speaking xfce component.  On the contrary, the
 light CD image[2] doesn't have the problem, as it contains the xfce
 environment.

Thanks for testing! A simple copy-and-paste error in one of my changes 
caused this error. It's now been fixed and the LXDE CD has been rebuilt.

Could you try again with the new version?
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/fjp/debian-50-i386-lxde-CD.iso

TIA,
FJP


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Bug#502147: marked as done (installation-reports: no problems on HP Kayak XU800)

2008-11-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System

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Package: installation-reports
Severity: normal

Hi there!

All works as expected, except for booting (read below, probably nothing
related to d-i) and the sound: it requires the cs46xx driver, which was
removed from the Debian kernel from version 2.6.23-1.

I didn't install X11 on this disk configuration, but I did in previous
installs to test some spare disks: X11 came up completely configured :-D

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: CD
Image version: netinst multi-arch (daily built 20080923-22:19)
Date: 2008/10/13

Machine: HP Kayak XU800, 2x P-III 1GHz, 768MB RAM
Partitions: 
 =
 sha:/home/luca# fdisk -l /dev/sda

 Disk /dev/sda: 18.2 GB, 18210037760 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2213 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x0007b0d3

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sda1   *   1  24  192748+  83  Linux
 /dev/sda2  251106 8691165   fd  Linux raid autodetect
 /dev/sda311071665 4490167+  fd  Linux raid autodetect

 sha:/home/luca# fdisk -l /dev/sdb

 Disk /dev/sdb: 9105 MB, 9105018880 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1106 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x000a9a4d

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sdb1   1  24  192748+  83  Linux
 /dev/sdb2  251106 8691165   fd  Linux raid autodetect

 sha:/home/luca# fdisk -l /dev/sdc

 Disk /dev/sdc: 4569 MB, 456960 bytes
 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 555 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x000c31d7

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sdc1   1 555 4458006   fd  Linux raid autodetect

 sha:/home/luca#
 =

 /dev/sda1 is /boot (with /dev/sdb1 as backup), /dev/md0 (/dev/sda2 and
 /dev/sdb2) and /dev/md1 (/dev/sda3 and /dev/sdc1) creating an LVM PV
 (vgsha) on which there are two LVs (1G lvswap and lvroot).

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [E]
Detect network card:[O]
Configure network:  [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Install base system:[O]
Clock/timezone setup:   [O]
User/password setup:[O]
Install tasks:  [O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Overall install:[O]

Comments/Problems:

I had problems booting off the CD, since the boot hanged after having
load the kernel.  Booting in expert mode revealed the error [1] and
indeeed passing 'edd=off' was the key.

I consider this an hardware problem because I experienced similar
problems in booting from any CDs (Windows XP Professional or others).

Footnotes: 
[1] http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/4/20/237

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==
Installer lsb-release:
==
DISTRIB_ID=Debian
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Debian GNU/Linux installer
DISTRIB_RELEASE=5.0 (lenny) - installer build 20080923-19:04
X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=cdrom

==
Installer hardware-summary:
==
umame -a: Linux sha 2.6.26-1-486 #1 Wed Sep 10 16:00:21 UTC 2008 i686 unknown
lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82840 840 [Carmel] 
Chipset Host Bridge (Hub A) [8086:1a21] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82840 840 [Carmel] 
Chipset AGP Bridge [8086:1a23] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: 00:02.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82840 840 [Carmel] 
Chipset PCI Bridge (Hub B) [8086:1a24] (rev 01)
lspci -knn: 00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801AA PCI Bridge 
[8086:2418] (rev 

Re: I can't use debian lenny rc1 torrent files.

2008-11-26 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 25 November 2008, sj wrote:
 I can't use debian lenny rc1 torrent files.
 Etch torrent files work properly.
 but I can't use debian lenny rc1 torrent files.
 because of abortion with error message below
 (I am using deluge(torrent client) in both xp and lenny beta2)

 Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker

I've passed your message on to the correct people and it should now or 
soon be fixed.

Cheers,
FJP


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Processed: Re: Bug#425648: Still Seeing This in Lenny

2008-11-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#425648: Still Seeing This in Lenny

2008-11-26 Thread Frans Pop
tags 425648 + wontfix
tags 425648 - d-i
thanks

On Monday 24 November 2008, Allen Cook wrote:
 I'm still seeing this in QEMU 0.9.1 and Debian 40r5 AMD64 netinst CD
 from the website

 grub-installer just hangs with QEMU taking up almost 100% CPU.

This is not a bug in grub-installer, but in grub itself which the grub 
maintainers do not want to fix. As it is specific to only qemu we also do 
not want to create a special case for it in the installer.

As a workaround you can install in expert mode and use grub2 which does 
work correctly with qemu in 64-bit mode.

Cheers,
FJP



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Re: Installation report on lxde CD

2008-11-26 Thread Deng Xiyue
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:49:24PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 November 2008, Deng Xiyue wrote:
  I've downloaded the lxde CD[1] and installed with desktop task in a
  virtualbox emulator.  The whole process goes smoothly, and booted with
  no problem.  However, there are some component lacked, and it turns
  out that's because only lxde-core was installed, instead of lxde.
  Moreover, lxde is not installable, as some of its dependencies are not
  available on the lxde CD, such as theme engine and xarchiver, which
  the latter is strictly speaking xfce component.  On the contrary, the
  light CD image[2] doesn't have the problem, as it contains the xfce
  environment.
 
 Thanks for testing! A simple copy-and-paste error in one of my changes 
 caused this error. It's now been fixed and the LXDE CD has been rebuilt.
 
 Could you try again with the new version?
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/fjp/debian-50-i386-lxde-CD.iso
 

Thanks for the quick fix.  Will try tomorrow :)

 TIA,
 FJP


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Re: [SPARC] Enable Sun 3DLABS XVR video drivers

2008-11-26 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:46:22PM +0100, Petr Vyslouzil wrote:
 please enable 3DLabs' XVR-500[1] (and possibly XVR-2500) driver in d-i.
 I've run Debian Installer lenny RC1 from CD on SunBlade 2500 workstation. 
 Apart from rather minor visual glitches caused by improper escape sequence 
 interpretation, the installer (in text mode) works even on OpenBoot ANSI 
 terminal. Unfortunately, the grave problem which renders the whole d-i 
 almost unusable, is invisible selection bar.

If I understood correctly, the default text interface (also called the
newt frontend) of the installer is unusable without the XVR-500 driver
on the SunBlade 2500 because of color issues.

As a workaround, you can always use the text frontend which does not
uses colors.  In order to do so, you need specify DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text
at the installer boot prompt.

The debian-installer itself uses standard Debian kernel images, so if
you need support for the XVR-500, please fill a bug against
the relevant linux-2.6 packages.

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Bug#501801: lenny beta2 install on Lenovo ThinkPad T61 without troubles

2008-11-26 Thread Andrew Malcolmson
The driver is in the kernel but you also need to install
firmware-iwlwifi from non-free.

I installed Lenny on my T-61 using an ISO downloaded around November 10.
 The installer did prompt me to provide a firmware file but did not
inform me that a package was available or offer to enable non-free in
order to install it during installation.  After installing
firmware-iwlwifi, wireless worked fine for me.
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