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I have customization-modules working. This is the scheme for allowing
users to load custom udebs from CD, floppy, or the Internet during
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On Sunday 24 September 2006 16:53, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
This is intended as a first step towards full support for add-on
udebs in the installer: udebs which can be added in at install time
from a non-standard source, by manual invocation from the main menu.
1) Please
Package: net-retriever
Severity: wishlist
This could be easily implemented as a separate module, but I have been asked
to avoid code duplication in d-i.
This is intended as a first step towards full support for add-on udebs in the
installer: udebs which can be added in at install time from a
Sven Luther wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 11:25:15AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
At a minumum, the patch for tg3 exists and is fully
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er, that's @recycle.lbl.gov
I'm having him send me a copy.
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reasons beyond customization disks: it's a little silly that those
options require an ISO image. :-) These should be substantially
simpler than cdrom-retriever or floppy-retriever.
Note that this infrastructure would add flexibility to d-i.
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-In SunOS 4, issue the command (as root):
-userinput/usr/etc/rarpd -a/userinput; in SunOS 5, use
-userinput/usr/sbin/rarpd -a/userinput.
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On Thursday 03 August 2006 02:53, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
This fixes up some bad usage of English
Adam Majer wrote:
Indeed. The word country needs to be replaced by locale or similar.
That's a good choice, actually, especially given that the technical name for
the thing which this selection is used for is indeed locale. Despite the
language_country form of locales (which was misguided in
Christian Perrier wrote:
(Alex Malinovic, serbian tanslator, and Safir Secerovic, bosnian
translator, CC'ed. Please keep CC unless one of both mentions he's
subscribed to -boot)
Quoting Anton Zinoviev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
This is cyrillic-written Serbian.
This is interesting.
Holger Levsen wrote:
At the moment FAI is mainly used on i386, with some success stories on
sparc, ia64 and powerpc. Since FAIs design is architecture independent
(the only special requierement is nfsroot) it should be possible to extend
the support to all eleven (or 12) architectures Debian
Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting Nathanael Nerode ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Here's some English language template polishing in the form of sed
replacements. The s/for seeing/to see/ is mandatory (for seeing is
incorrect here); the rest is just polishing.
Thanks a lot. I'm afraid I'm always
Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Please, we should be moving away from including countries at all on the
language chooser screen. I think the current mix of languages and
languages+countries on the first screen is very distracting already, and
wastes
Christian Perrier wrote:
In the meantime, at least for the languagechooser screen, a very short
hint would help.
I propose
Description: Choose a language
The language may be chosen by scrolling down this list with Up/Down keys
s/down/through/ s,with Up/Down,with the Up Arrow and
Andrew Pollock wrote:
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 10:46:05PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
We do have a beta3 branch in the repo, but it's acting more like a tag,
I guess, no changes have been made to it.
I tried the new partman, and it works great. Wow, that's a lot of work!
My only quibble is
Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting VEROK Istvan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I echo the same sentiment. In my Hungarian translation of the wizard
strings, I used something like partitioning helped by the Wizard or
partitioning guided by the Wizard.
The french translation uses the commonly
I am not a native english speaker, but somehow the use of consists
of does not really feel proper here...
It is, in fact, proper. However, these two previously suggested alternatives
are both better:
Partitioning a hard drive is the process of dividing it logically to
create...
Eddy Petrisor wrote:
Hello Bastian,
I am Eddy Petrisor, translator for Romaian language.
I have come across the following string in s390/netdevice:
[...] This parameter is required
for cards with microcode level 2.10 or later or when you want to share a
card.
Actually, it should
Joey Hess wrote:
I suggest that anyone who has an idea on the matter, tell it to
Christian and Alastair.
Well, I did suggest buying a National Geographic Atlas and using the names
on that.
I also suggested using the long names for *everywhere*.
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Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Anton Zinoviev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-05 15:31]:
Lack of support for several arm subarch partitioning schemes.
So far I (and probably the maintainers of parted also) have no info
about this. :-(
It doesn't support acorn labels (acorn-fdisk does). However,
Alexander Winston wrote:
On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 09:26 +0700, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
Hi:
I still have no clue on why country/province information is
technically needed. Sure, language is needed, and so does time zone,
keyboard, etc. But for what is country?
It is probably for
Anton Zinoviev wrote:
On 5.IV.2004 at 01:08 Thiemo Seufer wrote:
Eeeww... why was this? I remember partman/libparted had trouble
making DVH disklabels... was that the only reason for MIPS?
There is also a problem with the numbering of the partitions (#238838,
#220990). I have fixed
Joey Hess wrote:
I tried the new partman, and it works great. Wow, that's a lot of work!
My only quibble is with the use of the term Wizard, as in Use the
Wizard to partition. I don't think wizard is a proper noun, so should
not be capitalised, and I don't see how this is better than the old
Dave Jones wrote:
The country's name is ROC(Republic of China).
Taiwan Province is an administrative subdivision of the Republic of China
(ROC). Even though the province-level municipalities of Taipei City and
Kaohsiung City are on the island of Taiwan, they are not administratively
part
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 09:26:42AM +0700, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
I still have no clue on why country/province information is
technically needed. Sure, language is needed, and so does time zone,
keyboard, etc. But for what is country?
It's used for:
-
Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Everything except the asian langs currently fits on one floppy still,
but that is unlikely to last. I need to find some way to split the latin
languages, or perhaps split out the cryllic ones.
This would give us:
Asian
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3) regarding having to have mac os installed (however small), would
immediately put stuff (d-i ?) into non-free
Contrib, actually.
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Thorsten Sauter wrote:
Hello d-i peoples,
since we have partman now, I'm wondering if it is time to remove some
unused packages from the archive. This will reduce the size of available
packages for d-i and makes my bugs list smaller. :-)
I have an eye on the
Christian Perrier wrote:
the zh_TW language.
Seriously, it shouldn't be zh_(COUNTRY) at *all* -- it's certainly possible
to use traditional Chinese in mainland China and it's done when copying
ancient texts. The (language)_(country) system is only really appropriate
when the country
Alastair McKinstry wrote:
D Domh, 2004-04-04 ag 02:53 +0200, scrobh Frans Pop:
I really think that using the 'really' short names (that is just plain
Taiwan instead of Taiwan, P.. of C..) would not be a bad compromise
despite what the official so called short UN names say.
And note that it
Herbert Xu wrote:
Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
No, some of you did, but more don't(especially people
in China mainland), AFAIK.
As a chinese, I think most people in mainland won't mind using Taiwan
here. Even in
Herbert Xu wrote:
Carlos Z.F. Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:48:43PM -0800, Anthony Johnson wrote:
No, some of you did, but more don't(especially people
in China mainland), AFAIK.
As a chinese, I think most people in mainland won't mind using Taiwan
here. Even in
Nathanael Nerode wrote:
So I wouldn't worry, as long as this is a list of *countries*, anyway,
since there's no other *country* called Macedonia (given that Greece
Of course, as I said elsewhere, Taiwan can't be in a country list, so you
can't deal with both at once. ;-) Oh well.
Well
Nathanael Nerode wrote:
Hmm. Indonesian (id) has its own alphabet.
Correction, no, brain-fade.
So does Turkish (tr).
But not very many non-Latin letters in it. :-)
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-Alastair and I recently updated the list to the most recent official
list of english and french names for countries, regions are areas of
specific geopolitical interest...exact wording of ISO-3166 list
I love the phrase of specific geopolitical interest. Yeech.
Christian Perrier wrote:
HuhCatalan, Castillan, Galician and now Basquegreat great
great...
And you have Portuguese. Yes, Iberia is well covered.
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Slavic languages are split between Latin2 and Cyrillic for the character
sets, so this may not an optimal grouping.
Working out the character set groupings? Great idea... I really have
absolutely no idea which languages use which code points. I was just
trying to come
Joey Hess wrote:
I don't feel that this is a very useful split, because you have to
assume that users may *not* be aware of these categories, and so you end
up having to list all the languages on each disk.
Are there *any* categories you can assume that users will be aware of (and
understand
Joey Hess wrote:
Andrs Roldn wrote:
If you look into the lilo.config file on debian directory of the lilo
source, you will notice that this warning is being displayed because
there is a file called /boot/boot.b being either a symbolic link or a
normal file. Those files were used by lilo
Frans Pop wrote:
This bugreport is related to #236533
See: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=236533
Maybe the two could be merged?
Ek. Other ISPs *send* the hostname *after* you connect with DHCP
I'm not sure exactly how to ask such a hostname question when you only
Joshua Kwan wrote:
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 11:23:54AM +1100, Andrew Pollock wrote:
The installer currently defaults the hostname of a new installation to
debian. I think it would be sensible for it default to whatever
hostname is provided via DHCP, if one is, otherwise fall back to
Stefan Tibus wrote:
Personally I don't think another boot parameter is a good idea. Specially
if it is meant for the non-expert users...
I'd prefer making the DHCP/static question high priority in this case.
Um, how about *medium* priority? It would be nice to have three levels:
basic (almost
Braxton Neate wrote:
The fact that this e-mail comes from an aol.com address and that he/she
purchased the Debian CD of ebay explains it all... and they didn't even
say who they are, how rude!
Let alone what version it was; for all we know, this person was trying to
install Debian 1.0 on a
Sven Luther wrote:
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 02:14:40PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
- - I am running Woody, and subversion IS NOT available for Woody. (Oh
sure, there is something at backports.org and I'll try and get it from
there, but that is not really the Debian way.)
Just build a sarge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried sarge d-i beta3 today.
At one point it says that it is looking for DHCP something, it says that
sometimes DHCP is slow, and then it comes out that it cannot find it. The
alternative is to give my IP number, but I do not know any IP number and,
as far
Peter Samuelson wrote:
[Nathanael Nerode]
So it sounds like fdisk in woody created bad, non-standard Sun
disklabels. And yet, they somehow worked. Ow.
Actually, no. I investigated a bit; it seems fdisk is right and
partman (actually libparted) is wrong. I've got a patch, but it's
Dan Weber wrote:
The merge of module-init-tools with busybox would be a mess. First,
insmod, and rmmod appear to be 2.6 compliant from busybox cvs, but the
depmod code is not nearly the same as it was in modutils. I think we
should take joey's idea and make a module-init-tools-udeb. The
So it sounds like fdisk in woody created bad, non-standard Sun disklabels.
And yet, they somehow worked. Ow.
I suppose this really calls for a disklabel-repair program which would
write a valid Sun disklabel over the non-standard disklabel without losing any
data. If that's not possible (the
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
Apparently beta3 has better SATA support. Can you try?
I did. :-P
Here's the lowdown: the installer basically works and installs the
system. Unfortunately I can't get either grub or lilo to work, so I
can't boot it.
This may have something to do with device mapping
elijah wright wrote:
Apparently beta3 has better SATA support. Can you try?
This may have something to do with device mapping in the BIOS -- I may
not be feeding the right information to lilo and/or grub. Or it may
have something to do with the fact that my system doesn't appear to have
a
, but returns the exit status of the first command (not the
second).
So instead of 'foo | logger' (giving the logger exit status)
you do 'mispipe foo logger' (giving the foo exit status)
I'm sure it can be improved if added functionality is desired.
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partman is unusable on s390 and blocks completely after issuing a error
about the sector size.
I believe this is because libparted (and hence partman) doesn't support s/390
partition tables.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think s/390 uses a unique partition table
system, unlike that of any of
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I agree, and deciding one way or the other on partman will help, since
we can drop the other one to a low priority and out of memory.
Well, I think partman rocks. Notably, a lot of people working on extra
architectures and subarchitectures appear to be hoping that
- security fixed, 2.4.24 kernel (with SATA support)
Done for stock i386.
This is the old stock SATA driver, rather than Jeff Garzik's libata driver,
right?
I quote from http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html:
Intel ICH5 family supported in 2.4.22 and later kernels using the
Herbert Xu wrote:
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2 Serial ATA drives, 1 IDE drive, e1000 Ethernet card.
* It hangs on loading module ide-detect if RAID is disabled in the BIOS.
* If RAID is enabled in the BIOS, it gets past that, but it never detects
either Serial ATA drive
* Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-18 18:44]:
Perhaps you didn't notice that I'm completely stuck on another matter (the
wget failure). Happy to try once I can work around that.
Put the drive in another PC and use debootstrap to create a base
system. Or install another distro, make
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-20 12:03]:
So it turns out, having installed Linux to the one drive which is
visible to Linux, that the BIOS won't boot from that drive. And I
can't
Boot from floppy or CD and use root=/dev/... or boot from the net via
PXE
Herbert Xu wrote:
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2 Serial ATA drives, 1 IDE drive, e1000 Ethernet card.
* It hangs on loading module ide-detect if RAID is disabled in the BIOS.
* If RAID is enabled in the BIOS, it gets past that, but it never detects
either Serial ATA drive
Using the businesscard CD, during network hardware detection, I
get the complaint that this module is missing. Where can I find it?
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* Proceeding with the other drive, debootstrap fails -- wget fails
to download the Release file for sarge with a Hostname not found failure.
This pretty much scotches any install attempt, no workaround.
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Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-17 19:15]:
2 Serial ATA drives, 1 IDE drive, e1000 Ethernet card.
* If RAID is enabled in the BIOS, it gets past that, but it never
detects either Serial ATA drive.
Does a standard 2.4 kernel normally work? Or do you have
as the assumed experts, and CC:ing the package
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Joey Hess wrote:
Nathanael Nerode wrote:
#. Type: select
#. Description
msgid
Please select the closest Debian mirror, relatively to network
topology, not
necessarily to geographical reasons.
msgstr
Bad English. Try this instead:
Please select the closest Debian mirror (according to network
Package: boot-floppies
Severity: serious
Duh.
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Package: boot-floppies
Severity: serious
Apparently the version in 'sid' is the version used for the release of
'woody'. This needs to be put in woody. Some DD with an understanding
of the dependencies should submit it to woody-proposed-updates.
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Joey Hess wrote (with lots snipped out by me):
i386: On track for beta 2
powerpc: Very shakey
ia64: Likely to be in beta 2
mips: May be in beta 2
arm: Uncertian
The buildds are still down for ARM. And apparently it doesn't have
d-i kernels yet. Ow. Is this even likely to be released with
Template: base-config/intro
Type: note
_Description: Welcome to your new Debian system!
This program will now walk you through the process of setting up your
newly installed system. It will start with the basics -- time zone
selection, setting a root password and adding a user, and then
debian-installer/tools/kbd-chooser/debian/keyboard-at.templates
Template: kbd-chooser/kbd/at
Type: text
_Description: PC-style (AT connector) keyboard
Technically, there are two possible PC-style connectors. The AT
connector is a large round plug; the PS-2 connector is a small round
plug.
GR. We had several *weeks* of work on english strings and such
reports come *now*.
I had the time when I had the time. Also, I started following and
trying to help debian-boot only after you were nearly done with the
work. :-/ It took me a while to get the hang of the system. Then I
From http://people.debian.org/~barbier/d-i/l10n/en/en.po:
#. Type: select
#. Description
msgid
Please select the closest Debian mirror, relatively to network
topology, not
necessarily to geographical reasons.
msgstr
Bad English. Try this instead:
Please select the closest Debian mirror
Joey Hess wrote:
I think we should hold off on changing any strings before the beta,
unless there is a very good reason.
Seems reasonable. I think that strings which are not comprehensible (or
mean the wrong thing) in English qualify, right? :-) (I haven't
spotted any lately, so kudos.)
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modular design has
their template files to
debian-l10n-english for review. I keep seeing little grammar and spelling
errors, which really need to be fixed.
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On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 08:36:52AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
| +_Description: Network configuration method:
| + Networking can either be configure by DHCP or by manually
| + entering all the information. If you choose DHCP and
| debian-installer is unable to get a working configuration
|
here data from another partition doesn't parse
in English -- it should be Copy data to here from from another partition.
I'm sure the strings could be improved in other ways, but those are the
only ones I saw which actually *need* to be changed.
Thanks for your impressive work!
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