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Bug#819703: debian should stop shipping xscreensaver on upstream's request (was: Re: Bug#819703: fixed in xscreensaver 5.30-1+deb8u2)

On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 08:53:06 +0200, Harald Hellmuth wrote: > Please don't ignore jwz's declared intention by just disabling his check. Imho, the best way to deal with this is to stop shipping xscreensaver altogether. On May 23 2016, jwz wrote in

Bug#819703: My friend

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Bug#819703: my suggestion: change de message

I would like to suggest the change of the annoying message. alter "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" to "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please don't send bugreports!" and I prefer to see this message in debconf, not in every login.

Bug#819703: reply my lov

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Bug#819703: fixed in xscreensaver 5.30-1+deb8u2

On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 21:47:59 + Tormod Volden wrote: Hi Tormod, > Source: xscreensaver > Source-Version: 5.30-1+deb8u2 > > We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of > xscreensaver, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:01 AM, Peter Nowee wrote: > Here is a patch I was working on to add links to the Debian BTS in the > several places where bug reporting is encouraged (man pages, dialog > boxes). Perhaps it can be of use. Note that I did not have a chance to > test

Bug#819703: Thank you for your answers

Dear Adam, Tormod and Axel, thank you for your answers. Tormod said: >> Any changes in stable must "bake" in unstable first. Of course! I forgot about that. I love the commitment in Debian to create the most stable OS possible. Even if it is a line of code change, should "bake" on unstable

Bug#819703: Please fix stable version 5.30-1

Dear Jamil, Jamil Said Jr. wrote: > I read your email and my understanding is that only the unstable version > 5.34 and beyond will be fixed? What about the stable version 5.30? That's next. If bugs are not security issues, they always should be fixed first in unstable, bascially as a proof

Bug#819703: Please fix stable version 5.30-1

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Jamil Said Jr. wrote: > I read your email and my understanding is that only the unstable version > 5.34 and beyond will be fixed? What about the stable version 5.30? Can you > also fix that? Hi Jamil, Thanks for your interest in the Debian development process! Any

Bug#819703: Please fix stable version 5.30-1

On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 08:43:42PM -0700, Jamil Said Jr. wrote: > I read your email and my understanding is that only the unstable version > 5.34 and beyond will be fixed? What about the stable version 5.30? Can you > also fix that? Updates to stable that are not security issues take quite a long

Bug#819703: fork the code to alioth, and point all reference/email to there

On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 01:04:59AM +0800, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan wrote: > Maybe debian-screensaver is a good choice of name. I disagree. That would suggest that we endorse this and consider this the canonical screensaver to use in Debian, while the opposite is actually the case. Greetings Marc

Bug#819703: Please fix stable version 5.30-1

Dear Tormod, I read your email and my understanding is that only the unstable version 5.34 and beyond will be fixed? What about the stable version 5.30? Can you also fix that? I would be very disappointed if the stable version is not fixed. I work a lot with people with low computer skills, most

Bug#819703: Question

On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 04:18:17PM -0700, Jamil Said Jr. wrote: > I have a question and would appreciate if someone can point me to the right > direction. > > I would like to fix this warning on my own. I code in bash and other > languages. My difficulty here is that I cannot find the offending

Bug#819703: Question

I have a question and would appreciate if someone can point me to the right direction. I would like to fix this warning on my own. I code in bash and other languages. My difficulty here is that I cannot find the offending code anywhere on my installations. I know that grep and sed can work on

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 08:31:46PM +0200, Tormod Volden wrote: > Debian users should always report bugs to Debian and not directly > upstream. So the author being spammed by Debian users on old versions > should in principle not happen. If the current software encourages > people to send bug

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Tormod Volden wrote: > Thanks to Michael (and others?) for providing patches, generally the > most valuable contribution in a bug report. > Thanks for being a calm and sensible maintainer amidst the turmoil!

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Thanks to Michael (and others?) for providing patches, generally the most valuable contribution in a bug report. Jamie, you could have deleted all e-mail reports from Debian users in the time it took you to write this Easter egg :) (Just responding to the productive participants first, since

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Hi, I suggest this bug, #819703 - xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message only be used to discuss that issue and how to fix it in stable. To anyone else waiting for that to be fixed in the package, please be patient for the

Bug#819703: fork the code to alioth, and point all reference/email to there

Hi all, I would like to suggest that the source code of all version of xscreensaver to be forked and maintained in Alioth. The software name should be change also. Maybe debian-screensaver is a good choice of name. All email address or URL of upstream should be removed from the forked source

Bug#819703: Debian entitlement

On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 05:16:51 +0200 Peter Nowee wrote: > Second, judging by his comments here and in his code, the author was > from the very beginning fully aware that the time-activated warnings > were going to cause problems in the context of Debian stable. He either >

Bug#819703: you miss the point so much that you should stop shipping xscreensaver

* Daniel Shahaf: > I'm not Eli, but I believe he's referring to CVE-2015-8025 (#802914), > which was fixed in 5.30-1+deb8u1 that was uploaded to jessie-security on > 2015-10-25. > > I don't know how long the fix had been publicly available for before it > was uploaded to jessie-security. Since

Bug#819703: you miss the point so much that you should stop shipping xscreensaver

Marc Haber wrote on Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 10:38:16 +0200: > Eli the Bearded wrote: > > A version, today, over about five months old is going to have at least > > one security hole: you can crash out of the password prompt (at least in > > some cases) by hot swapping monitors at a critical time. >

Bug#819703: you miss the point so much that you should stop shipping xscreensaver

> Like it or not, JWZ considers xscreensaver to be frontline system > security. If it doesn't LOCK YOUR SCREEN, it's broken. If you don't > want to track the security updates, you are (in his mind) harming users. If there is such a bug in xscreensaver in stable, why is the release not tagged as

Bug#819703:

As always. Bla bla bla! Don't talk! Fix it in stable or kick it! NOW!

Bug#819703: you miss the point so much that you should stop shipping xscreensaver

Hi, Eli the Bearded wrote: > Like it or not, JWZ considers xscreensaver to be frontline system > security. If it doesn't LOCK YOUR SCREEN, it's broken. If you don't > want to track the security updates, you are (in his mind) harming users. You seem not aware that Debian _tracks_ security updates

Bug#819703: Debian entitlement

Hi, I also think the author is stubborn. However, there is a workaround and that does not even need a patch or update. Just set "lock: True" in "$HOME/.xscreensaver": # XScreenSaver Preferences File # Workaround stubborn "This version of xscreensaver is VERY OLD! Please upgrade!" bug timeout:

Bug#819703: Debian entitlement

On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 03:48:44PM +, ireulx wrote: > When did the Free Software Community come to mean Debian users? > When did 'needs' come to mean 'wants'? > > Debian Social Contract (1997) > - > We will support people who create or use both free and non-free

Bug#819703: you miss the point so much that you should stop shipping xscreensaver

Like it or not, JWZ considers xscreensaver to be frontline system security. If it doesn't LOCK YOUR SCREEN, it's broken. If you don't want to track the security updates, you are (in his mind) harming users. That is why he specifically suggests Gnome's screensaver: it's a as hardened as a luggage

Bug#819703: Political or Moral problem? I don't think so

Santiago Vila wrote: > The "only" problem is that the author does not want anybody to do that (read the comments at the beginning of the function). Santiago, thank you for your response. However, I believed that we were passed this point already, no? The author wishes, if granted, would be "the

Bug#819703: Easiest patch?

On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 02:33:39PM -0700, Jamil Said Jr. wrote: > I have not looked at the code, but this approach seems to me to have the > smaller change possible and still completely solve the issue: > > At some point the code will compare the date of the version with the value > that it has

Bug#819703: Easiest patch?

I have not looked at the code, but this approach seems to me to have the smaller change possible and still completely solve the issue: At some point the code will compare the date of the version with the value that it has stored (I believe 18 months), and complain if the version is older. Why

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Hello Alberto. On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 09:17:23PM +0200, alberto fuentes wrote: > Please, dont turn this into something about morale or licenses. I don't see the "turn". As I see it, it's a morale and licenses problem from the beginning: The program itself is free, but the author asks that we

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Santiago Vila wrote: > Speaking of right and wrong: > > Have you considered to change the license, so that it better reflects > what it's right and what it's wrong? > Please, dont turn this into something about morale or licenses. This is one of

Bug#819703: Debian entitlement

When did the Free Software Community come to mean Debian users? When did 'needs' come to mean 'wants'? Debian Social Contract (1997) - We will support people who create or use both free and non-free works on Debian. We will be guided by the needs of our users and the

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Fri, 1 Apr 2016, Jamie Zawinski wrote: > Awesome, you seem to be one of those people who think "if it's > legal, it must be right." That's a common toxin in the software > industry these days. Speaking of right and wrong: Have you considered to change the license, so that it better reflects

Bug#819703:

On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 03:44:55PM -0700, Jeff Warnica wrote: > If you do change things, then backport security fixes, however hard that > may be. That would not fix the issue as the software still has the old version number and the warning. Additionally, friendly upstreams tag security fixes

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 10:10:40 -0700 Jamie Zawinski wrote: > For those of you who can't be bothered to read the code, here's what the comment says. Sounds awfully a lot like this old Gentoo bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35890 And yes, I'm probably going to hell for submitting

Bug#819703: Patch to remove obsolesence checking

On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 01:26:17AM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > Hi Santiago, > > Santiago Vila wrote: > > Sorry, the not-so-short patch would be like this. > > That edits four files. Yes, I know, but the function says "leave this code intact and this warning in place" :-) In the unlikely case

Bug#819703: Patch to remove obsolesence checking

Hello Santiago, On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 01:02:01 +0200 Santiago Vila wrote: > On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 05:39:49PM -0400, Michael Greger wrote: > > Here's a patch to remove the obsolensence checking that > > xscreensaver does. > > For an upload to stable-proposed-updates, the release

Bug#819703:

On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 03:44:55PM -0700, Jeff Warnica wrote: > Upstream is adamant that he gets bug reports (and all bug reports are > security bug reports, especially on security software) against the version > included with Debian, which have since been fixed. There are two ways jwz can get

Bug#819703: Patch to remove obsolesence checking

Hi Santiago, Santiago Vila wrote: > Sorry, the not-so-short patch would be like this. That edits four files. The patch posted in the initial bug report (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=5;att=1;filename=patch.txt;bug=819703) only added a single line ("return 0" t

Bug#819703: Patch to remove obsolesence checking

Sorry, the not-so-short patch would be like this. --- a/driver/demo-Gtk.c +++ b/driver/demo-Gtk.c @@ -5292,7 +5292,7 @@ main (int argc, char **argv) the_network_is_not_the_computer (s); - if (senescent_p()) + if (0) warning_dialog (s->toplevel_widget, _("Warning:\n\n"

Bug#819703: Patch to remove obsolesence checking

On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 05:39:49PM -0400, Michael Greger wrote: > Here's a patch to remove the obsolensence checking that xscreensaver does. For an upload to stable-proposed-updates, the release managers appreciate that diffs are as small and easy to understand as possible, so the shorter the

Bug#819703:

Upstream is adamant that he gets bug reports (and all bug reports are security bug reports, especially on security software) against the version included with Debian, which have since been fixed. Debian applies changed *all the time* to "stable" packages. The alternative proposal is to apply

Bug#819703:

Hi Jeff, Jeff Warnica wrote: > There is the third option of "actually back port fixes and thus honestly be > able to remove the obsolete software warning" which should be investigated. Nope, that's _not_ an option for Debian Stable. Please read

Bug#819703: Patch to remove obsolesence checking

Here's a patch to remove the obsolensence checking that xscreensaver does. Currently there's no way for a user to disable or prevent the annoying popups everytime their system starts. Amazingly bad idea. diff -rupN xscreensaver-5.30/driver/demo-Gtk.c xscreensaver-5.30.fixed/driver/demo-Gtk.c ---

Bug#819703:

There is the third option of "actually back port fixes and thus honestly be able to remove the obsolete software warning" which should be investigated. Just selecting a random version and never changing it may quality as "stable", but that isn't "useful".

Bug#819703: Removing xscreensaver warning pop-up in Debian Jessie

I requested (per email) friendly to jwz, how to deactivate the warning pop-up. And wrote him, that I don't need this pop-up. Jwz sassed only:"Upgrade to a version that is not years out of date. If the distro you have chosen makes it difficult for you to do so, you have chosen a poor distro." No

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Hi Yves-Alexis, On Fri, 01 Apr 2016 21:26:23 +0200 Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > Right now, there's a way to switch to something else, which is light-locker, > so it might be a good idea to do that indeed. I'll update the tasksel package > with that in mind. Indeed. For someone

Bug#819703: xscreensaver is one of those things that makes people ask me what operating system i am using

A shame that Jamie didnt try to work a solution out with the debian maintainer instead of the aggressive time bomb... Also a shame that some maintainers kneejerk reaction to just have it out Both sides saying indirectly, im big enough and i dont need you Developers love to have users and users

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 03:59:11PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Why is this a bug? Quite simply: Because packages in Debian should not be telling the user "you should upgrade me". In particular, packages in Debian stable should not suggest that they need upgrading "for the sake of upgrading".

Bug#819703: Alternative solution

* Jesse Smith: > 2. Why not remove the author's e-mail address from the Help->About menu? > Leave the name so proper credit is given, but remove the e-mail address. Yes! Thank you, I think this is a simple, brilliant idea. After all, JWZ's main complaint seems to be that people bother him about

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Package: xscreensaver Version: 5.34-1 Followup-For: Bug #819703 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why is this a bug? Is there something not working? AFAICS, this is a documented feature. Whether you like the feature or not is irrelevant. In any case, how the heck can anyone justify

Bug#819703: Be serious, please.

This warning is offensive, expecially to the new end users, for professionals that installed them, and Debian community in general. Please remove.

Bug#819703: Please continue providing a stable, high-quality X screensaver program in Debian

>> so renaming the package would be wise when working with such >> upstream. > > What about yscreensaver? ;-) If you're looking for something really light, the suckless-tools package is already in the repo, and has a utility called slock that does what I want. Alfie -- Alfie John

Bug#819703: Alternative solution

I think a few things could be done with Xscreensaver which would be better than removing the package (which I use and enjoy) from Debian. For example: 1. Yes, let's remove the pop-up, it's really annoying, offers an impractical suggestion and does not accomplish for most users. 2. Why not

Bug#819703: +1 not to remove. Fix the stable version

First and foremost I am for fixing the stable version as soon as possible (by fixing I mean remove the offending warnings). The maximum priority here, in my view, it is to ensure that the people who depends on Debian stable can get rid of these rude and disruptive warnings (which will scare and

Bug#819703: Please continue providing a stable, high-quality X screensaver program in Debian

On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 11:03:58AM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > Andriy Grytsenko wrote: > > > so renaming the package would be wise when working with such > > upstream. > > What about yscreensaver? ;-) Some more ideas: "tsfkax" for "The Screensaver Formerly Known As Xscreensaver"

Bug#819703: Let's NOT remove xscreensaver (+1)

On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 03:17:11PM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > > Sounds fine, let's file a RoM > > Are you nuts? You just said, it's your favourite! Why do you want to > kill it? Well, yes, I am a bit nuts, but here's why. I think we can all agree the current situation is broken. Fixes in

Bug#819703: Let's NOT remove xscreensaver (+1)

Hi, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote: > Sadsies. xscreensaver is my screensaver of choice. Same here since xlockmore was removed due to unreliability and hence security-relevant RC bugs. > Sounds fine, let's file a RoM Are you nuts? You just said, it's your favourite! Why do you want to kill it?

Bug#819703: Let's NOT remove xscreensaver

* Paul R. Tagliamonte: > Sadsies. xscreensaver is my screensaver of choice. > > Sounds fine, let's file a RoM Wouldn't it be better to first focus on the imminent problem that users are facing? As of today, xscreensaver as shipped with jessie annoys users and that needs to stop. So the upstream

Bug#819703: 2 cent

The situation is very simple in fact. Somebody just lost the ground and cannot see the difference between the free software authorship, credit for it and property rights no more. He accepts the free license but in a some strange one-way fashion: to get the freedom for himself and to take it away

Bug#819703: Please continue providing a stable, high-quality X screensaver program in Debian

Hi, Andriy Grytsenko wrote: > I completely agree with blaming upstream to be ignorant Definitely. > so renaming the package would be wise when working with such > upstream. What about yscreensaver? ;-) > I also think this bug severity is 'important', not 'normal' since it > affects usability

Bug#819703: Please continue providing a stable, high-quality X screensaver program in Debian

I completely agree with blaming upstream to be ignorant so renaming the package would be wise when working with such upstream. I also think this bug severity is 'important', not 'normal' since it affects usability of package, at least it confuses users. If I was the maintainer of this package

Bug#819703: Please continue providing a stable, high-quality X screensaver program in Debian

To JWZ: if you don't wish to read about issues like this one, please stop reading Debian bug reports. There's no need for you to do so; if and when an issue arises in a Debian bug report that requires action from you, you _will_ hear about it. To everyone: What about renaming the package, along

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 10:37:35PM -0700, Jamie Zawinski wrote: > Peter Nowee wrote: > > > Was I wrong when I said that you value user freedom above your wish > > that we either keep the warning or remove your software from Debian? > > Awesome, you seem to be one of those people who think "if it's

Bug#819703: In case you remove xscreensaver from future distributions

In case you decide to remove xscreensaver from future Debian distributions, I have a suggestion: On whatever substitutes xscreensaver, I would like to suggest that you include the option to turn the screen "blank" in addition to "turn screen off" when the screensaver kicks in. Some screensavers

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Peter Nowee wrote: > Was I wrong when I said that you value user freedom above your wish > that we either keep the warning or remove your software from Debian? Awesome, you seem to be one of those people who think "if it's legal, it must be right." That's a common toxin in the software industry

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:04:45PM -0700, Jamie Zawinski wrote: > Please remove XScreenSaver from Debian. > > Peter Nowee, please take your sanctimony and go fuck yourself with it. > Was I wrong when I said that you value user freedom above your wish that we either keep the warning or remove

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Hi, On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 05:33:52AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > (Also for fixing this in stable it needs to be fixed / not be present in > > unstable first.) > Why? because that's the usual policy for fixing issues in stable, which was also confirmed for this particular issue by a SRM on

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Please remove XScreenSaver from Debian. Peter Nowee, please take your sanctimony and go fuck yourself with it.

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

I do not agree with the removal of the xscreensaver package. Thankfully, when writing down his wish regarding this particular piece of code, the author made sure to write that he did not mean to derogate the user freedoms provided by the license he chose: > Of course, my license allows you to

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 11:04:28PM -0400, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 02:53:30AM +, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Control: notfound -1 5.34-1 > > the bug is present in that version. The timebomb just hasn't been triggered > yet. For the record, the timebomb for 5.34 will go off

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Control: found -1 5.34-1 Holger Levsen wrote on Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 23:04:28 -0400: > Hi, > > On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 02:53:30AM +, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Control: notfound -1 5.34-1 > > the bug is present in that version. The timebomb just hasn't been triggered > yet. Okay; metadata

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Hi, On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 02:53:30AM +, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Control: notfound -1 5.34-1 the bug is present in that version. The timebomb just hasn't been triggered yet. (Also for fixing this in stable (and oldstable) it needs to be fixed / not be present in unstable first.) --

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Control: found -1 5.30-1+deb8u1 Control: notfound -1 5.34-1 Axel Beckert wrote on Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:54:39 +0200: > Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > P.S. I'm reporting this against the version in stable/jessie, > > Sorry, you didn't. I've added the version (initially) in Jessie now. Good catch,

Bug#819703: LXDE also affected by this

I meant: "I plead to you to change the current (and future) xscreensaver versions on Debian stable to make this "warnings" go away, as soon as possible." Lol! Cheers, Jamil Said

Bug#819703: LXDE also affected by this

Hello all, I want to bring to your attention that LXDE is also affect by this. I am also getting this disruptive and rude "warnings" every time that I start my (fully updated, stable version) Debian Jessie LXDE computers. It seems that the author does not understand (or doesn't care) that if you

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

[note: if you don't CC: me, then I don't get your mail] On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 22:33:31 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:26:23PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > That's definitely something to consider for stretch. I wasn't really willing > > to do that

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Sadsies. xscreensaver is my screensaver of choice. Sounds fine, let's file a RoM Cheers, Paul On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 10:10:40 -0700 Jamie Zawinski wrote: > > For those of you who can't be bothered to read

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 10:10:40 -0700 Jamie Zawinski wrote: > For those of you who can't be bothered to read the code, here's what the > comment says. > > I stand by my words here: If you are considering removing this warning, then > I ask that instead, you remove the XScreenSaver

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:26:23PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On ven., 2016-04-01 at 18:54 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:11:15 +0200 Samuel Thibault > > > (That gives a really bad impression: Jessie is just one year old, we > > > told the

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On ven., 2016-04-01 at 18:54 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:11:15 +0200 Samuel Thibault > wrote: > > > > Samuel Thibault, on Fri 01 Apr 2016 18:09:53 +0200, wrote: > > > > > > I have hit the same exact bug this morning, while installing Debian > > >

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

For those of you who can't be bothered to read the code, here's what the comment says. I stand by my words here: If you are considering removing this warning, then I ask that instead, you remove the XScreenSaver software from Debian entirely. I believe Gnome-Screensaver will be more to your

Bug#819703: this warning and/or the package should go away

Hi, IMO this warning should be patched away for the stable releases at least. For the future I think either the same should be done or the package dropped from Debian, as per the authors wishes. -- cheers, Holger, switching to i3lock today signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:11:15 +0200 Samuel Thibault wrote: > Samuel Thibault, on Fri 01 Apr 2016 18:09:53 +0200, wrote: > > I have hit the same exact bug this morning, while installing Debian > > Jessie, which is the latest Debian stable release. > > (That gives a really bad

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Hello Samuel, On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:09:53 +0200 Samuel Thibault wrote: > The current check in the source code is 18 months, perhaps Debian > could patch it to raise it to 30 months, to cover the stable > freeze+release period? As for me, I'd suggest to turn this check off

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Jamie Zawinski, on Thu 31 Mar 2016 21:24:11 -0700, wrote: > In the time it took me to read your whine, you could have upgraded your > incredibly-out-of-date computer and saved us all the grief. Incredibly-out-of-date? I have hit the same exact bug this morning, while installing Debian Jessie,

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Samuel Thibault, on Fri 01 Apr 2016 18:09:53 +0200, wrote: > I have hit the same exact bug this morning, while installing Debian > Jessie, which is the latest Debian stable release. (That gives a really bad impression: Jessie is just one year old, we told the installer to install the XFCE

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Hello. At the risk of stating the obvious, I'm going to reply to this message from the author, since it seems he reads the bugs reported to Debian. On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, Jamie Zawinski wrote: > In the time it took me to read your whine, you could have upgraded > your incredibly-out-of-date

Bug#819703: Info received (ReproducibleBuilds?)

Please ignore my last report. As the date in questions seems to be the date of the last modification to the source code rather than a build date it will not harm ReproducibleBuilds. Sven

Bug#819703: ReproducibleBuilds?

Hello, looking how I can try to avoid pissing off dozens of my users with this message I have been looking at the code and came to the conclusion, that this miss-feature will certainly also kill ReproducibleBuilds. So bug 819595 might be related. Regards Sven

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Package: xscreensaver Version: 5.30-1+deb8u1 Followup-For: Bug #819703 Dear Maintainer, I have a better solution. Dispense with the horse shit. Either provide a upstream version to be packaged(and backported) or permanently remove the offending code(and warnings). and as per upstream: needs

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

It is not a joke, I've also noticed the message today, I was writing a but report when I've noticed it was already reported. Since today xscreensaver tells debian users that "your distro is doing you a disservice. Build from source".

Bug#819703: 1 april fulls day joke?

Hello, is it joke )?

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

Control: found -1 5.30-1 Hi, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > In the lock screen, XScreenSaver displays the following message in bold font: > > This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade! Indeed. Very annoying. Upstream obviously hasn't understood how distributions work and what stable

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please upgrade the package

Dear Maintainer, please update the xscreensaver package in both Jessie and Wheezy. Thak you, -- Łukasz Stelmach Samsung R Institute Poland Samsung Electronics signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#819703: xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message

In the time it took me to read your whine, you could have upgraded your incredibly-out-of-date computer and saved us all the grief. > However, as a user I find these warnings rude and obnoxious, and I wish my > computer not to be obnoxious to me. I find your request to be obnoxious and I

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