Bug#1050001: Unwinding directory aliasing [and 3 more messages]

t present. Cheers, Phil. -- Philip Hands -- https://hands.com/~phil signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Is a different opinion about a license a case for the ctte?

seems likely to respond in a timely manner). Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#1003653: Revision of removal of rename.ul from package util-linux

that you could define 'rename' as an alias in your profile, or even that you might use update-alternetives to install one of them as 'rename' system-wide. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#1003653: Revision of removal of rename.ul from package util-linux

rename.ul being present, regardless of distro. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#978636: move to merged-usr-only?

inion (e.g. by putting something like "I think" in front of it) rather than presenting it as though it were a fact, you would be much less provocative, which might lead to a more constructive discussion overall. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| h

Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

Matthew Vernon writes: > On 14/12/2020 21:56, Philip Hands wrote: > >> Could I just check if there's a point of common acceptability which both >> sides of this discussion could live with? > > [...] > >> My suggestion for a mutually bearable solution would be th

Re: Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

een the maintainers of the packages involved, madly optimistic fool that I am ;-) ) Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

pen a bug mentioning that change against the network-manager-nonsystemd package, etc. If you think this approach is impractical for some reason, please say so, because what I have in mind as a better option does rather rely on this being available as a plausible fall-back position. Cheers, Phil. -- |)

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

en keeping back development of the ^^ Do you really mean stable here? I had gained the impression that there was no prospect of Kubernetes getting into stable, regardless of the details of how it ends up being packaged. Have I misunderstood? Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Ph

Bug#965080: Resignation + Call for votes for new Chair

Margarita Manterola writes: ... > ===BEGIN=== > > The chair of the Debian Technical Committee will be: > > A : Philip Hands > B : Margarita Manterola > C : David Bremner > D : Niko Tyni > E : Gunnar Wolf > F : Simon McVittie > G : Sean Whitton > H : El

Bug#961153: tech-ctte: Call for votes on TC membership of Sean Whitton

David Bremner writes: > ===BEGIN > The Technical Committee recommends that Sean Whitton be > appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical Committee. > > S: Recommend to Appoint Sean Whitton > F: Further Discussion > ===END I vote: S > F Cheers, Phil. --

Bug#961156: tech-ctte: Call for votes on TC membership of Elana Hashman

David Bremner writes: > ===BEGIN > The Technical Committee recommends that Elana Hashman be > appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical Committee. > > S: Recommend to Appoint Elana Hashman > F: Further Discussion > ===END I vote: S > F Cheers, Ph

Bug#947847: please install systemd-sysusers using update-alternatives

ou are asking that question, then I suspect that your knowledge of the problems of shell scripting may be sufficiently limited to mean that the only useful way to answer it would be to say: Yes. > So C-code is safe by construction, do you really believe in that? What a ludicrous question -- well d

Bug#914897: tech-ctte: Should debootstrap disable merged /usr by default?

tory schemes are allowed, but packages should only > be built on hosts with "merged `/usr`" directory schemes (or in > such chroots) > > * FD: Further Discussion > > === End Resolution === I vote: H > M > FD > W Cheers, Phil. -- |)

Bug#919951: ocaml builder must not be called `dune' or provide /usr/bin/dune

point out if this is wrong. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#904302: Call for vote on disallowing the use dpkg's vendor series in the archive

Tollef Fog Heen writes: ... > A: Approve resolution, disallowing the use of dpkg's vendor series > F: Further Discussion I vote A > F Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-S

Bug#904302: Whether vendor-specific patch series should be permitted in the archive

Adrian Bunk writes: > On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 08:21:07PM +0200, Philip Hands wrote: >>... >> IMO policy should recomend the use of separate source packages as the >> prefered solution to the problem that vendor-specific patch series were >> supposed to address. &

Bug#904302: Whether vendor-specific patch series should be permitted in the archive

Ian Jackson writes: > Adrian Bunk writes ("Bug#904302: Whether vendor-specific patch series should > be permitted in the archive"): >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 02:39:23PM +0200, Philip Hands wrote: >> > The Committee therefore resolves that: >> > >

Bug#904302: Whether vendor-specific patch series should be permitted in the archive

Tollef Fog Heen writes: > ]] Philip Hands > >> Tollef Fog Heen writes: >> >> >This should be implemented in Debian Policy by declaring that a a >>^^^ >> You've this doubled 'a' on t

Bug#904302: Whether vendor-specific patch series should be permitted in the archive

dor-specific patch series prior to Buster. Do we need to make the "SHOULD NOT" conditional on the package already having a vendor-specific patch series at the time of this resolution? Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands

Bug#904302: Why outlawing vendor-specific patch series would be a bad idea

lying a patch series that only gets applied if they unpack the source on a different vendor's OS. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Next Meeting: Wednesday, July 18th 19:00 UTC (today) - Currently no topics

il I get to Debcamp (next thursday-ish IIRC -- not sure what with timezones etc). See (some of) you soon :-) Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#893200: marked as done (TC Chair election)

Option E "David Bremner " > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Making use of my casting vote (§A.6.8) [1,2], I hereby designate Margarita > Manterola as the new TC Chair, effective immediately. Perfect. :-) I'd lost track of the deadline, otherwise I'd have voted for that as well, in which case Marga would have won without a casting vote. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#880014: Call for Votes for new TC member

The Technical Committee recommends that Simon McVittie be > appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical Committee. > > S: Recommend to Appoint Simon McVittie <s...@debian.org> > F: Further Discussion > ===END I vote: S > F Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands

Bug#877024: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports

gration tasks for this new version? I've been in touch with Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre (Cc:ed) and he's still happy to act as maintainer. He's currently not a DD/DM so needs sponsorship for his packages, but that should not be problem. The @ubuntu email address that was on the package turns out to be

Bug#881339: marked as done (allow node-babel-preset-env to build depend on itself)

ly having bothered with steps 1-3 here: https://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte I'm confident that we can all learn from this experience, and hope we will do a better job next time. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http:/

Bug#883573: Call for vote on waiving libpam-systemd dependencies' ordering

s. The migration should be managed according to Debian's usual > backwards-compatibility arrangements. > > === End Resolution === > > R: Approve resolution and repeal the TC decision from 2014-11-15 in #746578. > F: Further Discussion I vote: R > F Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Ph

Bug#889493: tech-ctte: Please review if systemd is reliable enough to be the default

pening to the submitter. I can think of a couple of recent bugs that would have benefited from this approach ;-) -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#886267: Voting for TC Chair

gt; G: Gunnar Wolf > ===END=== I vote: A = D > B = C = E = F > G Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#880014: #880014: Call for Votes for new TC member

BEGIN > The Technical Committee recommends that Gunnar Wolf <gw...@debian.org> be > appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical Committee. > > G: Recommend to Appoint Gunnar Wolf <gw...@debian.org> > F: Further Discussion > ===END I vote: G > F Che

Re: Dec 2017 TC meeting is at 'Wed Dec 20 19:00:00 UTC 2017'

or at least another day, so not a lot is getting done at present. Fun, fun, fun. We appear to be mostly over the worst of that though, so hopefully things will be back under control shortly. (he writes, as a small person partially-wakes and starts making pathetic noses... ) Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Ph

Bug#877024: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports

witch to make modemmanager optimistic enough to find their modem (on the understanding that it might break other stuff they could plug in, but at least they'll know why) Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#862051: nodejs (6.11.2~dfsg-1) experimental; urgency=medium

at seems like rather a lot of effort though, when the alternative is simply tolerating the existence of the two line debian/nodejs.links file. Is there some down-side for users to having those links in place on their systems? If so, I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet. Cheers, P

Bug#862051: nodejs (6.11.2~dfsg-1) experimental; urgency=medium

Jérémy Lal <kapo...@melix.org> writes: > 2017-08-30 11:50 GMT+02:00 Philip Hands <p...@hands.com>: > >> Jérémy Lal <kapo...@melix.org> writes: >> >> > 2017-08-29 21:39 GMT+02:00 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <o...@debian.org>: >> > >>

Bug#862051: nodejs (6.11.2~dfsg-1) experimental; urgency=medium

naging you the second time around, since if that comes to pass you'll have demonstrated the need. Be warned. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Agust 2017 TC meeting is at 'Wed Aug 16 19:00:00 UTC 2017'

bug, say. BTW I started out with the above paragraph including things like "unless anyone objects", but I'm pretty sure that nobody does, and it's a reversible action, so I just went for it -- I hope nobody minds. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]

Re: Bug#839172: TC decision regarding #741573 menu policy not reflected yet

Sean Whitton <spwhit...@spwhitton.name> writes: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 05:51:27PM +0200, Philip Hands wrote: >> P.S. Just in case this is an oversight, rather than an intentional >> change: >> >> Shouldn't "desktop entry" and "Debian menu ent

Re: Bug#839172: TC decision regarding #741573 menu policy not reflected yet

talls a FreeDesktop desktop entries I guess that should instead be: installs FreeDesktop desktop entries (or perhaps it should be singular throughout, I'm not sure) Cheers, Phil. P.S. Just in case this is an oversight, rather than an intentional change: Shouldn't "desktop entry" an

Bug#862051: Call for vote on allowing nodejs to provide /usr/bin/node

TTE decision from 2012-07-12. > F: Further Discussion I vote: R > F Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#865929: Advice on dealing with GRUB upgrade failure caused by init-select

are able to do whatever is needed (or perhaps suggest alternative approaches). BTW I'd like to thank you for the clarity with which you laid out the problem for us -- I'm sure the rest of the TC appreciate that too. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd

Re: Bug#862051: Refer #862051 to ctte

s as additional notes to describe the consequences of the revocation. Like mentioning that where a versioned depends on nodejs is deemed necessary, the Depends: should probably also allow nodejs-legacy as an alternative option, since that also provides /usr/bin/node. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip

Bug#865485: Voting for TC Chair

lef Fog Heen > D: Sam Hartman > E: Phil Hands > F: Margarita Manterola > G: David Bremner > H: Niko Tyni > ===END=== I vote: B > F > A = C = D = E = G > H Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://

Bug#836127: Call for Votes for new TC member

The Technical Committee recommends that Niko Tyni <nt...@debian.org> be > appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical Committee. > > N: Recommend to Appoint Niko Tyni <nt...@debian.org> > F: Further Discussion > ===END I vote: N > F -- |)| Philip

Bug#860520: Voting for TC Chair

Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > Package: tech-ctte > Severity: normal > > Dear TC members, > > With the appointment of David to the TC and according to our current > procedures¹, I am hereby announcing my immediate vacation of the chair > position, triggering a new election.

Bug#836127: Call for Votes for new CTTE Member

urther Discussion >> >> ===END > > I vote A > B So, with that vote added, option A defeats B by 4 votes, and we thus agree to recommend David for the TC. Mehdi, does this count as sufficiant notification of that fact? Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+4

Bug#836127: Call for Votes for new CTTE Member

I vote: > ===BEGIN > > The Technical Committee recommends that David Bremner be > appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical Committee. > > A: Recommend to Appoint David Bremner > B: Further Discussion > > ===END A > B Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Phil

Bug#836127: Call for Votes for new CTTE Member

to the Technical Committee. A: Recommend to Appoint David Bremner B: Further Discussion ===END -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#857257: Re: Supporting configuration file changes between versions in unstable/testing

ould be nice, but the release managers would need to decide if they think that the existing code is nasty enough to allow a bigger patch. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#857257: Re: Supporting configuration file changes between versions in unstable/testing

you did this, which ought to also ensure that this bug would disappear. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#846002: Call for votes on resolution for #846002 (blends-tasks)

s through the debian-installer in future releases. > > END OF RESOLUTION > > Please vote [A] for acknowledging that this is under the jurisdiction of the > debian-installer maintainers, and [FD] for Further Discussion. Since I feel a conflict of interest due to being a

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must be priority:standard and not make a mess out of tasksel menu

Ian's criticism, but for my part I didn't think it was even slightly helpful for him to be in effect pushing me further towards the conflict of interest that I'm attempting to avoid. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.u

Bug#850967: Clarify /usr/bin/foo should not be hardcoded even in upstream parts

espace and even do that for a subset of the > processes on a system, getting almost all the benefits of PATH. I stumbled across 'proot' while looking into the background for this, which seems to be able to provide the effect of a bind mount without needing root privilege, and would presumably deal

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

Cyril Brulebois <k...@debian.org> writes: > Philip Hands <p...@hands.com> (2016-12-24): >> OK, this is tiresome -- you're complaining about question marks when I >> was still exploring the options and looking for feedback -- I could >> instead have been

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

e for being open about my feelings on the various commits because if you do that you'll reap the whirlwind when people start lying to you to get past your superficial metrics. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http:/

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

Philip Hands <p...@hands.com> writes: > Steve McIntyre <st...@einval.com> writes: > >> On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 02:25:48AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: >>>Raphael Hertzog <hert...@debian.org> writes: >>>... >>>> So I agree with Cyril a

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

Steve McIntyre <st...@einval.com> writes: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 02:25:48AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: >>Raphael Hertzog <hert...@debian.org> writes: >>... >>> So I agree with Cyril and the d-i team, we should be cautious here. >>> >>>

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

t match that, so converts to selecting no tasks -- I suspect leaving it blank would work just as well, but have not tried that yet. If anyone knows how to set choices-c via preseeding, then we might not need (all of) the second commit. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes: > Wouter Verhelst writes ("Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be > priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)"): >> On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 12:06:44PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: >> > How ab

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

Ole Streicher <oleb...@debian.org> writes: > Hi Phil, > > On 10.12.2016 01:03, Philip Hands wrote: >> Just to test things out, if one adds: >> >> url=hands.com/d-i/bug/846002/preseed.cfg >> >> to the kernel command line (so, hitting TAB as the

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

Ole Streicher <oleb...@debian.org> writes: > On 09.12.2016 08:37, Philip Hands wrote: >>> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016, Philip Hands wrote: >>>> It could be much improved by making it more obvious that the heading is >>>> a heading. Even if we're unable to stop

Bug#841294: Overrule maitainer of "global" to package a new upstream version

out relying upon just this. Would it not be wise to make the network-facing perl code runnable with strict and taint turned on, if only to stop people reacting with horror at first glance? I presume patches would be welcome? Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-|

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

nds team had the > required skills... > > I'm thus suggesting that blends-tasks should be removed and merged in > tasksel-data. At the same time, we should fix the installer to bypass > that confusing tasksel screen that we always get by default. > > On Wed, 07

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

ading again because they fancy playing some games at home, when the only difference between the images would be about 5 bytes of preseed setting. That said, it would probably be nice to make it trivially easy to set downloaded media to default to e.g. debian-astro at the user's preference, so th

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

Ole Streicher <oleb...@debian.org> writes: > Hi Philip, > > On 06.12.2016 20:43, Philip Hands wrote: >> Could we serve their needs with an extra debian-installer/blend >> preseed to deal with this, probably aliased as just 'blend' so that >> one could type

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

that that works and then make sure that it also works for one to specify e.g. desktop=kde and have KDE selected by default in this menu in that case. I don't know how well speakup, or the other UIs might deal with '==='. Would that cheer people up without needing a major rewrite of tasksel? Cheers, Phil.

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

; variant of the install media. If there's a real use case for mixing multiple blends, one could separate them with ; as we do elsewhere, so: blend=med;ham;games (we might want to call it 'blends' in that case, but I think that might be over-complicating things) Does that sound like it m

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

nstalling the blends-tasks (BTW is there an easy way to check which packages are installed together via popcon?) There is no need for them to tick the 'Special tasks' menu item in order to install any of the the blends, so to some tiny extent they were confused when they did that, were they not?

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

o come up with some better way of presenting the question. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#841294: Overrule maitainer of "global" to package a new upstream version

fer the maintainership, I think you ought to be up-front about that in order to avoid any accusations of intentional time-wasting later on. If you can keep your answers brief, you'll earn my gratitude. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.co

Re: Maintainership

be settling on a consensus. I'm sure there must be something constructive for you to be getting on with instead. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,

Re: Bug#841294: Overrule maintainer of "global" to package a new upstream version

to avoid the questionable CGI setup. I'm failing to be convinced that there is a significant userbase that falls between these two stools. If v6 goes into stretch, there will need to be a NEWS item about htmake and htconfig going away -- that could also mention that, if desperate, one can pin the old

Bug#841294: Overrule maintainer of "global" to package a new upstream version

Ron <r...@debian.org> writes: > Hi Marga, > > On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 11:32:49AM +0100, Margarita Manterola wrote: >> > Philip Hands <p...@hands.com> writes: >> > It seems like you are tempted to drop htags anyway now, so calling the >> > version 6

Bug#841294: Overrule maintainer of "global" to package a new upstream version

Philip Hands <p...@hands.com> writes: ... > How viable is it to have two conflicting packages: > > global5: continuing as you have it now >(perhaps with patches to make it work for recent use cases) > > global6: (with htags support removed) Ah, I

Bug#841294: Overrule maintainer of "global" to package a new upstream version

might go away in the next release (so that most people will see that on upgrade) then you could provoke the feedback you want, and perhaps also make judgements based on the way popcon figures shift over time. Would that work for you? Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]

Re: Bug#839570: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2 (reopening)

debate, because all attempts to discover what "browserified" is supposed to mean have been ignored. Despite that, this is still the term that continues to be used to pose the question. There may have been the appearance of a debate in the TC, but from my point of view that was mostly p

Bug#839570: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2 (reopening)

some bizarre reason were willing to use them, that there is any chance of obtaining a 2/3 majority in favour of forcing source-less, buildtool-less packages into 'main'. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.de

Re: Bug#839570: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2 (reopening)

Adrian Bunk <b...@stusta.de> writes: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 09:48:02AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: >> ❦ 5 octobre 2016 22:49 CEST, Philip Hands <p...@hands.com> : >> >> > If you fancy explaining what you think browserified means w.r.t. the >> >

Bug#839570: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2 (reopening)

loping upstream by modifying that code directly. I've found no evidence of that at all so far when looking at browserified code. Personally I'd prefer it if we could rebuild Configure in Debian, but I'm not going to make that so myself. Campaigning for perl to be removed from Debian doesn't strike

Re: Bug#839570: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2 (reopening)

Philip Hands <p...@hands.com> writes: > Praveen, please respond to #830986 Actually, I withdraw that request -- I doubt replying there is going to be a productive use of your time, and is probably not going to improve your chances of getting what you want either. If you fancy explai

Re: Bug#839570: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2 (reopening)

wasn't even sure if the re-opening of the bug was instead an attempt to get some sort of permission to let the likes of gitlab into main, by temporarily ignoring the non-free dependencies. (I'm not suggesting that as a way forward BTW, but it seemed at least as plausible as what was actually being as

Bug#839570: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2 (reopening)

to this is to simply close the bug. As a bare minimum, try specifying what outcome you are hoping for, with respect to which package. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

unblocking the policy update process

a proposed plan of action, or what the rest of us might be able to do to help -- or whatever else comes to mind :-) Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY

Bug#830344: Project Roadmap question - Call for votes

the enthused get on with it. The TC's contribution so far seems to have only been to delay things, so that's why I'm voting not to be involved in that capacity either. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/

Bug#830344: How should the TC help with a project roadmap?

, then they can be referred to the TC in the normal manner, and then we'd get involved, but I would expect that to be a very rare event. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY

Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

ts/commit/53443fa7f92c011714bd6aa5831be6074131cfca#diff-49dc26dc0a147a52074ac39c72bd99b1R2119 and if so, why would you want to do that? Of course, one could do that, in the same way that one could apply a hex editor to a binary file -- that does not make it source. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20

Bug#830978: Browserified javascript and DFSG 2

ly trying to claim that these are indistinguishable as far as anyone working on the code might be concerned? Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#822803: Call for votes for new TC member

> ===BEGIN > > The Technical Committee recommends that Margarita Manterola be > appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical Committee. > > MM: Recommend to appoint Margarita Manterola > FD: Further Discussion > > ===END I vote MM > FD Cheers, Phi

Bug#762194: Summary:Re: Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie (lendows 1)

that knows enough to have an opinion about their preferred init will be able to manage that simple extra step with ease. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY