Situation of long threads in -devel (was: Re: An apology to the mailing list and Charles Plessey)

2009-08-14 Thread Christian Perrier
I take this message from Manoj as an opportunity: > Hi, > > Inadvertently, a draft copy of an email written in anger, and > not meant to be actually sent, was sent to the mailing list, instead > of a more reasoned response. > > For that I apologize. You may see from the second

Re: Spam on the lists [Was: Re: Account Upgrade (Unex)]

2009-08-04 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Siggy Brentrup (deb...@psycho.i21k.de): > > look it up yourself: > > http://lists.debian.org/archive-spam-removals/review/stats.html (my > > user is morph...). So, are you going to help us kill spam (reporting > > it) or no time for this? > > So you're Debian's Mr. Antispam, my humble apo

Re: Spam on the lists [Was: Re: Account Upgrade (Unex)]

2009-08-03 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Siggy Brentrup (deb...@psycho.i21k.de): > > This can be done by *anyone*, DDs and non, and all are encouraged to > > do so. It's fundamental to have reports: without them we have a false > > sense of spam-free mailing lists, when we all know it's not true. > > And if for whatever reason s

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): > 4) http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.blender.devel/19895 > > Patch to add support for system-wide FTGL. I kind of get flamed for > thinking about using something else than what blender provides. And > who cares about shared libraries anyway, th

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): > So: what should I do? I'm thinking about orphaning the package as a > first step, and if nobody takes care of it as much as it is needed, > just remove it from the distribution. Packaging would still be > available in a git repository, so if someone som

Re: Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Luk Claes (l...@debian.org): > > Could this be prioritized by the involved teams (mostly kernel and > > release, I'd guess) or are there already some plans for this to > > happen? > > There are no plans to force anything in like some propose in such > situations as there is no clear plan

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Call for k eys for keysigning in Cáceres , Extremadura, Spain during DebConf9

2009-07-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Aníbal Monsalve Salazar (ani...@v7w.com): > >What about publishing what you already got? That could help those of us who > >want to check if their mail was properly received on your side.. > > http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc9/names.html > > If you have sent your keys and your nam

Re: Call for keys for keysigning in Cáceres, Extremadura, Spain during DebConf9

2009-07-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Aníbal Monsalve Salazar (ani...@v7w.com): > >[0] http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc9/ksp-dc9.html > > This is a reminder. The deadline is in about two days. What about publishing what you already got? That could help those of us who want to check if their mail was properly received

Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-07 Thread Christian Perrier
During the last meeting of the D-I 'team' (ahem) which logs can be read from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Meetings, the situation of the kernel packages wrt testing transition was raised. Apparently, having a new kernel in testing (whether this is 2.6.30 or whatever other funky new versi

Re: Switching the default /bin/sh to dash

2009-06-26 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Luk Claes (l...@debian.org): > It's enough to dpkg-reconfigure dash for existing installations. And, by the way, if the switch happens, one has to think about rewording the current debconf template for dash, that says: Description: Install dash as /bin/sh? The default /bin/sh shell on

Re: Switching the default /bin/sh to dash

2009-06-24 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Raphael Geissert (atom...@gmail.com): > Switch the default /bin/sh to dash in the following weeks /me applauses (I'm using dash as /bin/sh for about NN years now: IIRC I switched after Marga's work in the GSOC about the boot process speed up) signature.asc Description: Digit

Re: Removal of fc-cache calls in postinsts

2009-06-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org): > The next paragraph said: > I’ve requested a new lintian check, and here is the list of > affected packages. /me slaps self. Sorry, Joss, for overreading your mail. I actually went back on it quickly after you forwarded it to pkg-fonts

Re: Removal of fc-cache calls in postinsts

2009-06-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org): > Hi, > > since version 2.6.0-4, fontconfig includes a trigger that will re-run > fc-cache whenever needed. > > Therefore, all font packages that currently do this in the postinst are > strongly advised to remove these calls. The performance gains durin

Re: How to hack on DDTSS code ? (Re: DDTSS usage configuration for Japanese)

2009-06-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Junichi Uekawa (dan...@netfort.gr.jp): > Hi, > > Anybody have any idea who's working on DDTSS code and how I can change > some of its behaviors? That would be Martijn van Oosterhout who you CC'ed to this mail, apparently (and, IIRC, reads debian-i18n) Michael "Grisu" Bramer leads other t

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Sune Vuorela (s...@vuorela.dk): > > 4) Patch the text to tell people where to go to turn it off > > It's a deviation from upstream that we would have to maintain for eternity. > This issue is not important enough for me to put the extra required work into > it. > Getting the prompt optio

Re: Transitions Completed

2009-05-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > It's mainly (slightly) confusing on the debian-boot list. At least I have > occasionally had to look twice before remembering that those mails are > about the archive and not D-I. I agree it wasn't a huge issue. Confirmed. I had the same issue from time

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): > My point is precisely that I don't think there are any salient technical > advantages of one over the other. Either postfix or exim4 meets our needs > for a default MTA, and both have packages that appear to be well-supported > by their maintainers an

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): > If this were put to the TC, I can't see any way that this would be anything > more than a poll of the personal preferences of the members of the TC. If > someone who's in a position to make this decision decides they'd like to > delegate the decision

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Micah Anderson (mi...@debian.org): > I think our problem is, how do we go about making this decision? If the problem is well summarized (the wiki page you pointed), why not make use of our Technical Committee for this? It certainly needs someone committing self to track down the issue

Re: Possible mass bug filing: non-doc packages recommending doc packages

2009-05-07 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Y Giridhar Appaji Nag (app...@debian.org): > Debian Samba Maintainers >samba swat Recommends: samba-doc swat is a web interface to administer samba. Its main page currently has links to Samba documentation in HTML. I bringed the discussion in out maintenance list but dropping Reco

Re: "Debian is switching to EGLIBC"

2009-05-06 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting John Goerzen (jgoer...@complete.org): > So I think the problem here is not that you made a technically bad > decision. It sounds like you made a good decision. It's how it was > communicated. I guess that, in some way, the glibc maintainers wanted to save us from a probably very long an

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-06 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org): > Where do we draw the line for “most situations”? If you want to do > serious email work, you’ll have to spend some time configuring your > exim/postfix and install extra components to run with it. If you don’t, > a trivial configuration will do the tri

Re: debconf templates: Choices displayed different to values

2009-04-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Lucas Brasilino (lucas.brasil...@gmail.com): > Thanks a lot for you answer. By the way, can you please point me out > some updated > documentation about templates, debconf protocol, commands, etc? If you introduce debconf templates, you may want to get them reviewed by the debian-l10n-eng

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Peter Eisentraut (pet...@debian.org): > Nevertheless, since ntpdate used to be quite popular, I figured I'd better > ask > here for objections. Would there be a possibility to prove some kind of wrapper for those among our users who might have various local stuff that are using ntpdate

Re: Item lists bulletting (was: Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions)

2009-04-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Lars Wirzenius (l...@liw.fi): > to, 2009-04-16 kello 08:42 +0200, Christian Perrier kirjoitti: > > I have never been able to find any such solid reference for English. > > There is probably something in the Chicago Manual of Style, that's > > generally accepted

Item lists bulletting (was: Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions)

2009-04-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Andreas Tille a écrit : > I have not found any recommendation regarding this at the SRP Wiki page > [1]. > I vaguely remember that this Smith project was initially driven by a French > guy who might try to push a French habit into the English world. ;-) Of course. Because, contrary to the world

Re: DEP-4 TDebs - updated

2009-04-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): > > http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep4/#index7h2 > > "During the transition, those bugs will remain. After the transition, > > those bugs will go away so there should be no need for a closure > > method. We’ll need to rely on i18n.debian.org for translation

D-I release goals page (was: Re: Bits from the Debian Installer team)

2009-04-09 Thread Christian Perrier
In "Bits from the D-I team", we wrote: > Goals that were confirmed|added are listed below. These release goals > are summarized on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SqueezeGoals To be fair, they aren't yet..:-) This page needs reorganization to be inline with the meetings conclusion. Such w

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-06 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > I'm not sure where the original mail comes from, but IMO this should be From lilo package BTS which I was tracking for l10n purposes. So I just happened to notice William's answer to a bug report and thought it would be good for this to be discussed in pu

Re: [GSoC] KDE4/Qt4 based package manager

2009-03-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Obey Arthur Liu (art...@milliways.fr): > > synaptic or shaman (from Chakra). I think that aptitude-gtk and adept > > are not userfriendly. Using these applications was quite difficult for > Heartfelt thank yous! (I'm the guy responsible for aptitude-gtk.. :D ) Is this silly to think that

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Tille (til...@rki.de): > Could you please clarify whether you mean *enumeration* (in the sense I meant itemization, actually, so more "" than "". There are certainly very few cases where ordered lists are really useful in packages' description. Sorry for the approximative English

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Michael Banck (mba...@debian.org): > > Please note that debian-l10n-english suggests using the enumeration > > style you mention for a2ps, when we're reviewing package > > descriptions... > > What's the rationale? So far, I was under the impression that " * " A not very strong one, I'

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Tille (til...@rki.de): > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > >> Please note that debian-l10n-english suggests using the enumeration >> style you mention for a2ps, when we're reviewing package >> descriptions... > > BTW, once you an

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Tille (til...@rki.de): > Package: a2ps > - various encodings (all the Latins and others), > - various fonts (automatic font down loading), > - various medias, > ^^ (two spaces) > > Package: acerhk-source >* controlling LEDs (Mail, Wireless) >* enable/disable wireless

Re: Installing accessibility packages by default?

2009-03-05 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Samuel Thibault (samuel.thiba...@ens-lyon.org): > So, I'm asking: would it seem reasonable to ask tasksel to install > accessibility packages along desktop packages? > > I have tried to install Lenny with a gnome desktop, I ended up with > 2.3GB disk usage. Adding gnome-accessibility and

Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?

2009-03-04 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): > symbols. If there's a will to get that done in Debian now, I will > definitely be happy to ditch the samba-dbg package for one. I support my co-maintainer on that..:-) One should note that samba-dbg is sometimes used and already allowed tracking do

Re: handling group membership in and outside d-i

2009-02-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jon Dowland (jon+debian-de...@alcopop.org): > I did several subsequent installs and my user never ended > up in powerdev (nor netdev for that matter). It's my belief > (yet to check d-i code to confirm) that the user gets added > to powerdev if you select the desktop task: for each of my

Re: Release Candidate 2 of Debian Installer

2009-02-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Florian Weimer (f...@deneb.enyo.de): > * Otavio Salvador: > > > See the errata[2] for details and a full list of known issues. > > What needs to be done so that these two issues can be fixed? This has been discussed numerous times in -boot but among the low number of ppl working on D-I d

Re: Debian 5.0 ("lenny") release notes: Call for translations, again

2009-01-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Thomas Mueller (thomas_mueller_...@online.de): > > Is someone working on the de-translations? > Need help? > > This is the only langauge I can offer support. > Just let me know! The place to look for this is debian-l10n-ger...@lists.debian.orgcc'ing the list. -- signature.asc

Re: Debian 5.0 ("lenny") release notes: Call for translations, again

2009-01-24 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Klebson Porfirio (klebs...@gmail.com): > How can I get information about pt_BR translations status? I am with > free time to help in what will be necessary. That would be debian-l10n-portugu...@lists.debian.org. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a s

Re: Help bts-link be a more effective tool

2009-01-18 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com): > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > Hello, > > > If you feel something is missing, should be fixed or enhanced, let > > us[4] know; of course, patches are welcome ;) (git repo at [5]). > > I really useful stuff will b

FTP team name (was: Ftpteam members)

2009-01-13 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joerg Jaspert (jo...@ganneff.de): > Call for help > - > Even with one new member just added and another one possibly following > soon, we can do with more people. The points I listed in [1] basically > still hold true, in case you consider it, but lets put them in here again. :)

Re: Private-only debconf templates for preseeding

2009-01-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > IMO the use you describe can be valid in particular cases. > > One example would be when the setting is intended to only influence > behavior of the maintainer scripts during installation of the package as > part of system installation using Debian Insta

Re: For those who care about bts-link: call for adoption

2009-01-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> bts-link is seriously missing, now, for those of us who heavily work > with their upstream's BTS (hint: samba..) > > Even one run per month would be better than nothing, indeed..:) THanks to whoever launched a run last night...:-) signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: For those who care about bts-link: call for adoption

2009-01-05 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Sandro Tosi (mo...@debian.org): > Sadly no, mainly because I was waiting for a sort of approval/ack from > QA team, that never came (I don't know if it's needed, but I saw it as > a source of courtesy). Well, maybe just because nobody in the QA team felt in charge of providing you with a

Re: For those who care about bts-link: call for adoption

2009-01-05 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Sandro Tosi (mo...@debian.org): > I'd be very welcome to maintain it, in the QA architecture, but I need > some guidance in the setup on merkel and stuff like this. Any news about this ? bts-link is seriously missing, now, for those of us who heavily work with their upstream's BTS (hint

Re: problems with the concept of unstable -> testing

2008-12-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Bastian Venthur (vent...@debian.org): > Is that important? Unstable is frozen for nearly 1/2 year now, that's a > problem we should try to solve if we don't want to degrade ourselves to > a server-only distribution. While I don't see such a big issues in this, there is maybe room for imp

Re: Can we help the release by proposing package removals?

2008-12-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Charles Plessy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Would it help the release team if people who want to help would file properly > argumented requests of removal for such packages? This would clear the RC > radar > and focus energy on the packages without which Debian can not consider > releasing. I

Debian bugs #600000 and #1000000 contest

2008-11-30 Thread Christian Perrier
(originally sent to -devel-announce-publicity folks, that could deserve an entry in the DPN, maybe?) > As the bug #50 mark was turned on September 24th 2008, Debian > developers and contributors need a new challenge. > > So, again, a small contest has been set up. The principle is very >

Re: Game servers in /usr/games or /usr/sbin

2008-11-29 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Magnus Holmgren ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Game executables should be installed in /usr/games, but what about game > servers that are designed to be long-running (in contrast to ones that just > manage a single game) and to run as a system daemon, and doesn't work if > executed by an ordinar

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ban [Re: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount]

2008-11-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Christian Perrier wrote: > > Has the d-d-a ban been lifted? > > There currently isn't a ban in place.[1] [EMAIL PROTECTED] will likely > be communicating privately with the individual(s) involved once we &

Re: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount

2008-11-24 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I apologize for sending this email to d-d-a instead of -devel. It could > have conveyed the same message without abusing the project resources. Thanks for this, Joss...whatever one thinks of the content of your post, the two sentences above are very

Re: screenshots.debian.net

2008-11-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Stefano Zacchiroli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Still, for different alphabets there might be an added value. AFAICT > it is possible that an application looks sensibly different when using > a left-to-right vs a right-to-left language. Indeed, I support zack's suggestion. Allowing multiple sc

Re: screenshots.debian.net goes beta

2008-11-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christoph Haas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I intend to make the application i18n-savvy. But that's currently not the > hightest priority on my todo list. As soon as the other issues are sorted > out I'll happily gettextify the application and send you a file to > translate. Thanks for the of

Re: For those who care about bts-link: call for adoption

2008-11-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Pierre Habouzit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi, > > As some of you may know, I've been the original creator of bts-link[0]. > Though, I have currently neither the motivation, nor the time to > maintain it, or run it on a regular basis[1]. > > I believe bts-link has become an important piece of

Re: Sidux?

2008-10-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Kel Modderman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): (thanks for all details which, I think, are very welcomed by debian-devel readers) > There are a couple of home grown softwares included, such as a multi-lingual > 'sidux' manual, a (K)control centre module for administrative tasks and an About the mult

Bug#501590: Processed: Re: Bug#501590: PrintScreen key causes many apps to suddenly die if you are running in Linux text mode

2008-10-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Holger Levsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi Christian, > > I don't understand why you reassigned this bug to general. Surely, if you > want > to discuss this with debian-devel@ you can cc: the list. Reassigning the bug > to general often achieves nothing (which cannot be achieved by cc:ing)

Re: #500000 24 Sep 2008 07:51:01 UTC :)

2008-09-24 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Tille ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Christian Perrier wrote: > >> Let's not forget Nobuhiro Iwamatsu who reported that bug >> >> Even though bug #47 would habe been fun to have as #50, >> indeed..:-) > > You tried

Re: #500000 24 Sep 2008 07:51:01 UTC :)

2008-09-24 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Krzysztof Burghardt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > 2008/9/24 Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Noèl Köthe wrote: > >> we reached http://bugs.debian.org/50 > > > > Who has won the "Chritian Perrier Award" for the best estimation of > > time for this? > > "Rene Mayorga

Re: DELAYED queue and upload hostname

2008-09-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Julien Cristau ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Some questions: > 1) I use Tollef's DELAYED queue mostly for 0-day because it's accessible > over ssh, so I can rsync files over which is more reliable than ftp on a > bad link. It sounds like you're removing the possibility to use that (I > know I ca

Danish developers *do* care about Debian being installable in their language

2008-09-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Thanks to Sune who relayed my noise in his blog, Jesper Dahl Nyerup and Henrik Christian Grove complete Debian Installer translations for Danish very quickly and even reviewed the existing translations. I think they deserve big kudos from Danish native speakers and D-I developers. Thanks as well

Re: Do Danish developers care about Debian being installable in their language?

2008-09-18 Thread Christian Perrier
(private CC just in case, sorry if that's a small abuse, Sune) Quoting Sune Vuorela ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On 2008-09-18, Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > >

Re: Do Danish developers care about Debian being installable in their language?

2008-09-17 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Paul Wise ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The situation is now critical, indeed. Even though the decision is not > > yet taken, there are risks that we (D-I team) finally decide t

Do Danish developers care about Debian being installable in their language?

2008-09-17 Thread Christian Perrier
(please forgive in advance the title of this mail which is slightly agressive...on purpose. I indeed have nothing against Danish developers: just like all developers and contributors in Debian, you guys deserve all due respect. I just wanted to get your attention) As I mentioned on http://www.perr

Re: Lenny upgrade-advisor

2008-09-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Franklin PIAT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > * More explicit messages (!) internationalized ? signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: people.debian.org to move to ravel

2008-09-05 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Faidon Liambotis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Perhaps the DELAYED queue should be moved out of ~tfheen to a more > neutral directory? I strongly support this. The DELAYED queue is a very useful service and it deserves to be maintained as an official service. I personnally always use the 0-day

Bug#497433: i18n.debian.org: [DDTP] Getting "old" descriptions when requesting new ones

2008-09-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Martin Eberhard Schauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Churro aka i18n.debian.net down X-CRM114-Status: Good ( pR: 9.8622 ) At 19.08.2008 19:41 Christian Perrier wrote: > Since Saturday, we're experiencing outages with churro,

Re: Please hint poppler-data for lenny inclusion

2008-08-27 Thread Christian Perrier
Hideki Yamane a écrit : > So I and other Japanese Debian developer/maintainer/package maintainer/ > users want poppler-data package to there, the CJK languages-desktop > tasks in tasksel. Please consider that. The easiest way to have this to happen is by sending a wishlist bug report against

Re: Bug#496386: The possibility of attack with the help of symlinks in some Debian packages

2008-08-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > This is far below the quality I expect from a mass bug filing that's been > reviewed by debian-devel. Mass bugfilings at RC severity need to be held to Even though I overread the thread when Dmitry posted his intent to -devel, I feel like there was

Re: Please hint poppler-data for lenny inclusion

2008-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Although it is in non-free, it is essential to read PDF files created in > Asian languages. These data were in main packages but due to package > reorganization and better license review, it is in non-free. > nfortunately, there is no other ways to use pd

Re: Bug#495643: Catalan DDTP issues

2008-08-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Did I made a mistake? > > Apparently not; has that pseudopackage really gone uncreated for 2 years? :/ Yes..:-) But, actually, this is something we revived from the team work around i18n at DC8. With churro/i18n.debian.net doing more and more wo

Bug#495628: general: setting system users' homes in their data directory slower security scanning

2008-08-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting alex bodnaru ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Package: general > Severity: normal > > putting the home directory of users like postgres or especially backuppc > in their data directory makes routine scans of tiger over the homes directory > for user related suspect files work significantly slower.

Re: Needs help: CJK Debian users will not be able to read PDF with poppler-data in default Debian Desktop in Lenny

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Hideki Yamane ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi list, > > I'm worry about CJK Debian users will not be able to read PDF with > poppler-data in default Debian Desktop environment. > > Now, in etch, if you want to view Japanese PDF file, you'll install > xpdf-japanese and cmap-adobe-japan1 and

Re: Mass bug filing: init script "status" action

2008-08-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I think the combination of a Lintian check plus filing wishlist bugs with > patches for each init script where you've tested the modifications is a > good combination. The Lintian check could include a small example of what to do in case this can be ge

Re: Policy restriction to depend on font packages

2008-07-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Eugene V. Lyubimkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Should I mass-file the bugs or this situation can be resolved through > different approach? While you're technically right, apparently, I think that this issue should be solved by a discussion to either adapt the policy wrt current practice (fon

Re: Dpkg triggers and user experience, aka "How do I disable those triggers" side effect.

2008-06-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Charles Plessy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >> Maybe "Processing triggers" could be replaced by a 2-3 word summary of > >> what the trigger is really doing? > > > What about "Processing delayed configuration"? > > Well, I was originally thinking about someting specific for each > trigger, but y

Re: Dpkg triggers and user experience, aka "How do I disable those triggers" side effect.

2008-06-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Franklin PIAT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > That's true, IMHO. The funny (and *angering*) thing is, those users who > actually notice triggers are likely to complain : > > "Why the Hell do you run those triggers, it wastes my time !" Are you basing this assumption on somethign really experienc

Re: ITP: debian-backports-keyring -- GnuPG archive key of the backports.org repository

2008-06-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joerg Jaspert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On 11424 March 1977, Francesco Poli wrote: > > > Important disclaimers: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. > > Those are *totally* and absolutely unimportant and a waste to write. I disagree. For the very first time after too may years of electronic

Re: Pre-Depends addition for debconf on package rar

2008-06-17 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Martin Meredith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > As mrvn pointed out to me earlier, rar's licence should be displayed to > the user before the package is installed. > > To this end, I plan to add a preinst script which displays the licence > to the user, and lets them agree or disagree to the licenc

Re: Correct way to rename a binary package

2008-06-13 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Luca Capello ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi there! > > As explained at [1], I'm in the process of renaming the binary package > cl-hunchentoot to hunchentoot to more closely follow upstream. Since > cl-hunchentoot is not in Etch, if I'm not wrong the new transitional > package can be dropped a

Re: Non-related 'Recommends' dependencies - bug or not?

2008-06-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Greenland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On 12-Jun-08, 13:57 (CDT), "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bug was closed by maintainer with note "it is not a bug". Is he right? > > Banshee's maintainer isn't (and can't) be responsible for other packages > recommends. Not bl

Re: Mouse configuration during installation needs improvement

2008-05-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Ben Finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes: > > > Given most people don't use the console ever > > Where is your data for this assertion? Probably too wide generalization by Lennart. My own assertion was that people who use the console *on an enough re

Re: Debian Menu transition status

2008-05-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Bill Allombert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > 1) About 60% of menu files had been updated to the new menu sections. > There are still 672 packages to update. > >

Re: Mouse configuration during installation needs improvement

2008-05-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Stephen Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > This will allow the use of the mouse both in a virtual > console and in X. Not only that, but "hot swapping" Not to mention the various remarks that have been made, I would like to enhance that ppl who use the Linux console on a regular basis (which

RFH: Bug #481575: courier: FTBFS

2008-05-21 Thread Christian Perrier
During the l10n NMU campaign, some work was done on "courier", in the usual "l10n NMU" way: -send an intent to l10n NMU -wait for 10 days to get a reaction -send a call for l10n updates and new translations -wait for 8 days -build the NMU However, building the NMU fails and lead to /me reporting

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Fri, 16 May 2008, Joey Hess wrote: > > Coming up with a complex set of requirements that everyone has to follow > > up front in their workflow[1] is not going to yeld the best results, and > > I think that's my core reason for disliking Raphael's pr

Re: Hi all

2008-05-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Yannik Stadelmaier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi all! > > I'm not new to Linux (I use it since about SuSE 7.3 or sth like that). > For a few months i helped the german kubuntu community as moderator in > the biggest german kubuntu forum. Then i changed my main system back to > Debian (i used i

Re: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#478328: ITP: samba4 -- LanManager-like fileserver and active directory server

2008-04-29 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jelmer Vernooij ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Jelmer Vernooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is a plan we discussed with Jelmer at the SambaXP conference. (for people less involved in samba stuff, Jelmer is, along with Andrew Bartlett, one of the two "lead"

Please think and test before setting a mailing list as "Maintainer:"

2008-04-19 Thread Christian Perrier
I happen to often send mails to @packages.debian.org while conducting my NMU campaigns for l10n bugs hunting. From time to time, I still get such mails rejected because the said package uses a mailing list as "Maintainer:". This is of course one of the keys of collaborative maintenance but, pleas

Re: intend to hijack GnuPG

2008-04-19 Thread Christian Perrier
(moving to -devel as -release is not meant to be a discussion list Please note this is not directed at your post, which was appropriate for -release but my comments are IMHO not. CC'ing you in case you're not subscribed to -devel) Quoting Laszlo Boszormenyi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Various peop

Re: GnuPG: Maintainer inactive?

2008-04-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Kai Wasserbäch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hello, > on the 1st of April I wrote an e-mail to James Troup offering my help in > hunting You shouldn't have done this on 1st of April as you could then have received an answer. > So my question is: Is James known to be inactive? Are there others c

Re: Moving from console-tools to kbd [was: Bug#476097: kbd: Incorrect LSB init header]

2008-04-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 06:23:56PM +, Michael Schutte wrote: > > As d-i has been brought up: Moving from console-tools to kbd does not > > affect the installer; > > localechooser would need to be changed to install kbd rather than > console-tools. >

Re: Moving from console-tools to kbd [was: Bug#476097: kbd: Incorrect LSB init header]

2008-04-14 Thread Christian Perrier
(keeping CC, just in case) > console-tools is currently preferred over kbd and installed by default > (on 97.41% of all machines according to popcon). > > Given the comments of Michael and Alistair, it seems clear to me that we > should move away from console-tools (back) to kbd. Also, Michae

(English-speaking) Canadian users: default to US or "Canadian multilingual" keymap?

2008-04-12 Thread Christian Perrier
I'm seeking advices for #475482. console-data recently got a new keymap, namely "ca-multi", which features the "Canadian multilingual" keymap. This keymap is standardized by standard bodies in Canada and seems to be available from several hardware vendors. My understanding is that local official

Re: Bug#473998: ITP: debian-faq -- The Debian FAQ

2008-04-03 Thread Christian Perrier
(usual dilemna: who to put in answer to an ITP...using the bug number and -devel to avoid too many CC) Quoting Cyril Brulebois ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On 02/04/2008, Joost van Baal wrote: > > In this package you will find the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ, which gives > > frequently asked questions (with

A few hints to devels calling for debconf translations updates

2008-04-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Alexander Wirt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): (in -i18n, Alexander called for an update of ipvsadm templatesI use this as a good start for more general comments. Please don't CC him to answers as I suspect he's subscribed to -devel) Some comments: > Dear Debian I18N people, > > I would like

Re: triggers wishlist

2008-03-31 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Mike Bird ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Designing and implementing triggers was a lot more work, and a lot more > serious work, than merely merging a git branch. Once you start to learn > some programming you'll understand the difference. Dear Mr Bird, I have no idea who you are and what you

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-18 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Neil Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Please can this 'trend' be stopped here and now? > > The Packages.gz file is already enormous (especially for Emdebian > purposes or other low resource units) and adding yet more fields to Couldn't there be an opportunity somewhere to have some possib

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Or use the aptitude frontend for package management which will show such > packages under the header "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages". Thanks for reminding this very obvious feature which helped me removing about 20 obsolete packages from my laptop

Re: ITP: ttf-linex -- Free fonts for education and institutions

2008-03-11 Thread Christian Perrier
vu: Maintainer: Debian Fonts Task Force <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Uploaders: Davide Viti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eugeniy Meshcheryakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here, Davide is the package maintainer. I've been added to Uploaders as well as E

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