I am proposing they do now)
*as well* as a rapidly growing delta of sysvinit-support/initscripts in
lots of other packages, as they steadily rotted in Debian.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to debian-devel.
ed, all the time spent hacking, debugging,
learning and teaching, is worth nothing.
The same is true for any dropped port, but beware of the sunk cost
fallacy.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
tor's output and use it in preference.
I'd suggest that tangible reasons for using asciidoc (py2 or py3) over
asciidoctor should be identified, to decide whether to persist with
packaging it.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am su
s. The problem itself does not necessarily imply an
increase in complexity. For example we've discussed the idea of
declarative maintainer scripts as (part of) a potential solution: I'd
argue that these are far simpler than anything-goes shell scripts.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
archive, so adding the features being discussed
won't protect users who run external install scripts like these two
examples.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
second sources list for 3rd-party-links.
This would not restrict what those packages would do, so it's orthogonal
to what we are discussing here.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
isolate itself.
Yes well, we *could* consider rewriting Debian to be based on
appimage/flatpak/snappy
Appimage does not provide the isolation features we are discussing here.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄
ainers".
I think an important step for figuring out what to contain would be
to audit all existing {pre,post}inst scripts and categorize them by
what they do (areas of the filesystem they read or write to; network
access; device access; etc.)
* on Linux, at least. Not sure about KFreeBSD.
--
pport years ago, IIRC.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
collaboratively maintain rss2email? If so I am
happy to start the bureaucracy-ball rolling by creating a Salsa project
debian/rss2email and mirroring the former-Alioth git refs into it.
Best wishes
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to
(upstream or Debian) version numbers even if you have an epoch. That
may make Michael's suggestions more attractive.
+1 from me. Epochs are not only painful for maintainers, they are
confusing for users too.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do
ules" well-known these days? I'm surprised not
to see it mentioned more often.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
n the packaging of the
dependents).
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
ckage.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
right now.
I've been wanting to pick back up sorting out wiki content licensing
after a long haitus but haven't had the time or spoons yet.
--
Jonathan Dowland
e, or anywhere)
addresses this difficulty for me, so thanks!
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 02:35:19PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
I think it would be worthwhile to file a BTS bug so it can be easily
tracked which versions of the package we distribute still carry this
bug, so I will do that.
Done here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug
e DEP process dep.debian.net, which hasn't had
much exercise in recent months.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
g it
to rest so thoroughly afterwards!
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
ttempt to demonize a position
that Adam disagrees with.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 04:15:12PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
As a pre-amble side-note, some issues of offending users with homophobic
language have been addressed upstream, and I think we should aim to
carry these patches in stable/testing/unstable. (I don't think we have
processe
On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 12:44:01PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
I can't help but understand your message as "if you don't agree, you
haven't understood" which I don't find very helpful.
Dmitry is not claiming to disagree; he's stating that he doesn't
u
On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 01:34:19PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
On Friday, 20 July 2018 12:50:12 AM AEST Jonathan Dowland wrote:
Have you read Matthew Vernon's reply to OP in this thread? Does that not
explain it?
Matthew did not convince me. IMHO his explanation is weak as it boils do
to which programs this is likely to be an issue. Should it be an issue,
then I do not object to the offensive names being provided as
compatibility symlinks, so long as they are shipped in a separate binary
package, using the already-established practice of suffixing
"-offensive" to t
quot;leg" or
"arm", it becomes just ridiculous.
Do you mean: it would be ridiculous to perform s/boobs/arm/ in the
package? Indeed it would be. Or do you mean it would be ridiculous to
object to *arm* in packages or binary names? Nobody is doing that. Or
do you mean something else?
;t want to bother them to try changing their whole
blog unless there is a known workaround for the issue that they can
enable without too much effort.
Perhaps you can get access to Planet Debian's run logs to see what
error reporting those blogs trigger, if any.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowlan
recently disappointed to discover win16 finally stopped
working with the move to 64 bit.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
mechanism to yank all those packages out of testing once
we've entered a freeze.
Interesting idea. Do we then not consider testing to be the proving
ground for the next stable release, until freeze time? Do you think
this would result in longer freezes, or not?
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Do
On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 03:34:50PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
On Tue, 2018-02-06 at 13:31 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 05:06:00PM +0100, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> This is one of the many situations where I'd like developers to *ask*
> when unsure or u
daches for somebody.
Maybe introducing epochs should force a round-trip through NEW...
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
debian-devel@ rather than debian-mentors@.
Best wishes
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
seems the
author was keen to merge many of your changes, but not all, and since
you piled them all into one PR the onus was on them to try and unpick
the result. I guess they lost interest or forgot about the PR after a
while.
https://github.com/Rolinh/dfc/pull/9
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Do
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonathan Dowland
* Package name: zdbsp
Version : 1.19
Upstream Author : Marisa Heit
* URL : https://github.com/rheit/zdbsp
* License : GPL-2+
Programming Lang: C++
Description : node builder tool for Doom-style
tware to perform systemd-specific functions without
libsystemd. So, if your motivation is to test non-systemd code paths,
this proposal is *not* sufficient for that purpose.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
thoroughly in the distance past on this and
other lists, and is in any case off-topic.
1) Proofs please. DDG & Google find only your words.
As above.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
m not even sure that pabs is arguing against your point; just
fact-dumping in the thread.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
meone
wants to write some kind of redirection map.
I'm not too concerned about the work, however, I thought the whole point
of "anonscm.debian.org" was exactly to be a portable name.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
is phrasing), although in
my case I'm talking about the quality of the software being packaged
more than the quality of the packaging. A maintainer still needs to make
a responsible decision as to whether the software is sufficiently high
quality to be a fit for Debian.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jon
[ Sorry for the duplicate. So began, and I guess now finishes, my brief
exploration of the Evolution MUA. ]
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
r over wicd
b) enhance wicd to manage 3G stuff
c) add separate dependency on modemmanager (or whatever) | network-
manager
...
N) drop task-lxde-desktop (if none of the above could be achieved)
However broadly I think this is tractable so I disagree with the
premise that we need to dump desktop tasks.
--
Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, 2017-12-03 at 23:43 +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> tl;dr: Desktop tasks have unexpected (from the user point of view)
> side
> effects due to dependencies. This can be considered harmful since the
> installer task selection can easily can trick a user into installing
> a
> "substandard" system.
o at least have a look, but I was too lazy to look up the
instructions to find the IT-supplied default LUKS passphrase).
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
(perhaps long term one, maybe we will never get around
to writing our own).
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
k (nor to
improve the docs etc.)
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
y correct freedom is more important
than being friendly to novices" (and it's not clear Debian as a whole
agrees with this sentiment), folks might want to consider that this
probably means we will need to have more people doing bug triage.
We would have *many more people* around to do i
The Social Contract and DFSG were written a long time ago.
Should the project not be open to looking at what our collective values
are today, or are we beholden to the terms layed down by braver people,
all those years ago?
--
Jonathan Dowland
27;ve grown
as a project in the way we communicate together to resolve problems.
I know I've needed non-free firmware on every single laptop I've ever
used Debian with and I suspect that's true for nearly everyone.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
he's not using Debian anymore.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
Yes this would be excellent; a necessary prerequisite would be getting
more daemons (and cron-scheduled processes) shipping systemd units too.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 03:01:09PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
That's still not an upstream default lsm. Looks like someone in
Debian just decided to make apparmor the default, which is horrible
news :(
not "just decided", it was extensively discussed.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 11:23:12AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 08:49:11AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
This is about standardising the label we use for marking offensive content,
not about defining what is or isn't offensive. I'd argue that
"-offensive&q
in -policy.
This is about standardising the label we use for marking offensive
content, not about defining what is or isn't offensive. I'd argue that
"-offensive" suffix proposal was a technical term.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄
[ I screwed up CCing this in the first place ]
- Forwarded message from Jonathan Dowland -
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:46:21 +
From: Jonathan Dowland
To: Antonio Radici
Cc: 870...@bugs.debian.org, Kevin McCarthy
Subject: Bug#870635: mutt package is not using the official mutt
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonathan Dowland
* Package name: crispy-doom
Version : 5.0
Upstream Author : Fabian Greffrath
* URL : https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Crispy_Doom
* License : GPL-2
Programming Lang: C
Description
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 08:05:53PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 03:40:25PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
The rationale for keeping qt4 in the archive for me (same for gtk1,
gtk2, etc.) is so that people could continue to build or run
out-of-distro legacy software
ream and what little time I have for Debian is better spent elsewhere.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
I'm glad to hear we haven't lost you!
However, I cannot find your mail to debian-private in *my* archives. I
have not checked the official archives, perhaps there's a problem with
my mail set up.
Best wishes
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀
one other thread discussing this in the context of SSH) and
libressl implements the OpenSSL 1.0 ABI, and the practically qt4 linked
with libressl actually worked, then (assuming anyone is prepared to
maintain it) qt4 could remain in Debian too.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https
path, I dunno,
like /usr/share/X11R7/bin?
(/s)
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
.html
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 03:29:31PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
wrote:
Jonathan Dowland
qtscrob
The right thing to do here is probably to remove this from the archive.
But out of curiosity I did look at porting it forward to qt5: I found
someone else's patch for the
c/doom-wad-shareware/1.9.fixed-2/debian/rules/
[2] And I've just realised I never pushed the fix to git. (The md5sums
line is missing).
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2017/07/msg00323.html
I'm planning to write up what I've been looking at for a blog post.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
ion is yet.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
But perhaps -a to
dpkg-buildpackage is the wrong approach.
Can someone please point me to the relevant idiot's guide?
Thanks
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
etails but at least provide
proof as I have done.
You can assume that -devel subscribers are capable of performing their own
search of mailing list archives.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 06:14:36PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 02:08:20PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> Yet "don't buy anything" is not a good advice.
Have we ruled out all ARM vendors yet? :)
Are we still talknig about general-purpose computer
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 06:04:43PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
Yet "don't buy anything" is not a good advice.
Have we ruled out all ARM vendors yet? :)
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
.
Thanks
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
s. None of them have the same traction as
pbuilder or sbuild. I've only used pbuilder myself personally.
> Anyway, I'm done with this debate; it's clear I have very different
> views from some on this matter.
The points you have made are a valuable contribution IMHO, thanks for mak
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 03:25:38PM +0100, James Clarke wrote:
> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 03:06:48PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > Excellent, this is a great start, and seeing "Michael Stapelberg" for me is
> > an
^^^
> > indi
dication of quality.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
it
extends
up to upstreams, too)
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
sus on any one
version of that.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
; contributors at horizon.
Oh sure, I didn't mean to say I think you should be *doing* any different,
merely that the rationale you gave (user experience) for doing so (or not)
didn't cover the problem case.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do no
solution to this problem; or if not a solution, a decent puzzle piece.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
tely; the impact is on potential packaging contributors.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
ity cost IMHO, as we've had git for 10 years now there are plenty
of developers who have completely forgotten how to use SVN (like me) or
even never learned it at all.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
e bugs. So even ten years ago, IMHO, the existing
service could use improvements, and that is even more true today.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
move to one Debian mailing list service?
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:06:06PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> git: 18907
> svn: 2377
^ how many of these are from teams (like pkg-gnome, at one point at least) who
want
to switch to git but lack the time or person-power or motivation to perform the
task?
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jo
ster IMHO from
a contributor-complexity POV.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
> you can safely drop it and re-introduce the real app under that name?
>
> Just my 0.02€
Sounds good to me. "gnome-games", if packaged, should certainly be called
"gnome-games".
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do
t allows developers
should be "a", "an" is used if the following word begins with a vowel.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
The text part of this multipart message is mangled beyond legibility
(it's impossible to distinguish the quoted text from the new stuff).
What mailer are you using?
--
Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
e to fail: then, the builds aren't broken; the test still
runs, the bug still exists but it is not RC.
--
Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
ltiple cores, by the way; more so that they were racy
or buggy in some other fashion. If uniprocessor buildds are finding these
bugs then that's a virtue, IMHO.
--
Jonathan Dowland
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:32:04PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> Thanks for doing this.
...despite alarming hostility from your fellow developers (as I read
the bugs in more detail, in growing horror... #844264 in particular)
--
Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to
This is really intriguing. I suspected your build environment must
have been weird, but it looks fine to me. The likely elephant in the
room is the single processor. I'm pretty amazed that this seems to be
a stumbling block, but there we go.
Thanks for doing this.
signature.asc
Description: Digi
nd post migration, and to perform cleanup if they are
happy.
We're in freeze now too, and it feels a little worrying to be working on
something this tricky at such a time. As pointed out to me on IRC, though,
it's probably better than post-release, at least.
--
Jonathan Dowland
Please do not
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 09:50:50AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> I uploaded some library packages that are on the dependency chain for LXD, but
> we didn't get LXD into sid in time for the freeze. I'm planning to raise the
> suggestion we remove those libraries from squeeze,
t get LXD into sid in time for the freeze. I'm planning to raise the
suggestion we remove those libraries from squeeze, for similar reasons.
--
Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
one else to see
it through :)
You might even decide it's not feasible, in which case tftpd->tftpd-hpa
becomes feasible again for stretch.
--
Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
airly
sure people are already working on this (Pirate Praveen was at least).
If there's anything further to discuss on this topic can we at least
set an appropriate Subject: going forward?
--
Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
Thanks, this is great!
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
ng on external (or non-depended) tools, it
would help me feel that the tool was well rounded and internally consistent.
--
Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 03:24:40PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> The UI for ip(8) is absolutely appalling. I'd like Debian to continue to carry
> net-tools in parallel to iproute2 until such time as a third tool (with a
> decent UI) comes along and obsoletes iproute2.
...
>
problem with the priority dropping to optional and it not being part
of the default install. I wouldn't want to see it dropped from the archive.
--
Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 10:51:49AM -0600, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2016, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > In related news, I was surprised to receive 7 copies of a 1M
> > control@b.d.o email recently.
>
> That was me; sorry about that. Presumably you got all of the
101 - 200 of 488 matches
Mail list logo
