Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Aaron Van Couwenberghe said: Notably, I'm going to be writing it in C++. This will add about 270k to the boot disks' root image, but as the floppy install methods are for the most part phasing out under the shadow of easier methods, I'm not going to Are you sure about that? If yes, the

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ossama Othman said: One alternative that's probably worth considering is improving libdpkg, so that Apt and friends can make use of dpkg that way, and provide their own front ends however they see fit. I don't think that is a complete solution. Improving libdpkg would be good but,

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ossama Othman said: be good but, as Aaron described, that would just be adding/modifying code to code that is already brittle. Well, a complete rewrite and redesign in C would help... Yep, I agree. Although, I still like Aaron's idea. Yes, it is nice as a venture, IMHO, but at

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Kenneth Scharf said: (I've been playing around with gtk++ and VDK for a while now) before I would even consider it. I currently write stuff for an NT platform under C++ using the Rational Rose OO modeling tool, so I agree with your idea of using C++ for this work. GOOD LUCK! NT (and M$

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho said: On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 03:01:12PM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: Polymorphism is such an obvious pillar of structured programming that I can't understand how anybody could live without it. Agreed. Too bad C++ does not support parametric polymorphism

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ossama Othman said: Why? Tell me how I pass a C++ object to C, Fortran or Pascal. The same way you pass fortran to C: use wrappers, for example. Here is one way of passing a static C++ method to a C function (e.g. signal system call) in C++ code: extern C void Base_cleanup (void

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ossama Othman said: Simple. :-) Perhaps, but not clean. And doesn't make sense in this particular case... Remember the rule of the Ockham's Razor I think it should be obeyed here... What's not clean about it? It's a very simple wrapper? Also, what doesn't make sense? It

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ossama Othman said: Hi, Ossama implementation on the GNU platform, which is now in its young days - it's constantly changing, the features are being added, standard being implemented in more and more detail. This situation will no doubt incurr many changes both in the source code

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Brent Fulgham said: Simple. :-) Perhaps, but not clean. And doesn't make sense in this particular case... Remember the rule of the Ockham's Razor I think it should be obeyed here... I think the real problem is in trying to export a language-specific construct to

Re: time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Aaron Van Couwenberghe said: Yes, I see everyone's points. I know what you're saying. I'll keep it in mind; you've made your arguments. I just would like to see an end to this fledgling flamefest ;P Well, I saw no flames... Just a discussion but, hey, who am I to judge...? marek

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ossama Othman said: mean, you can buy a small car - a shopping bag on wheels and then buy a new engine just to be able to tow a trailer :)) - it is possible, but not cost-effective and sensible - you can buy a larger and stronger car at once :)). Maybe the example isn't perfect, but

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Sven LUTHER said: Polymorphism is such an obvious pillar of structured programming that I can't understand how anybody could live without it. Is it? AFAICS none of the traditional languages like Pascal or C has polimorphism at its base... What you call polymorphism is just function

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Sven LUTHER said: Agreed. Too bad C++ does not support parametric polymorphism too well. Templates come close, so the hope is not lost. But the problem is that templates, nor exceptions or rtti (which are all elements of MODERN C++ programming) don't work well enough on the GNU

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Sven LUTHER said: On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:44:02AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: 1. you create a C library with all the dpkg functionality inside 2. you compile and link it as a shared library 3. you write several simple drivers to interface the user to that library 4. the .so

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho said: Is that true, I have heard this agrument often, but is it true, and is it still so today ? Is there effort made to fix this ? how far are they ? I haven't used RTTI, but in my experience templates work without problems and exceptions work most of the time

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Sven LUTHER said: Is that true, I have heard this agrument often, but is it true, and is it still so today ? Is there effort made to fix this ? how far are they ? I haven't used RTTI, but in my experience templates work without problems I also heard that templates bloat the

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Hamish Moffatt said: mention templates. And I remember how did the C++ interface, in binary This was certainly true in g++ 2.7.x, but egcs seems much better. Much better, yes, but it's still not finished. (Exceptions and templates anyway; I don't know what rtti is.) RTTI stands for

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Aaron Van Couwenberghe said: The answer is - you can't... All the languages you mentioned have clean C interacing methods, but no C++ ones. The reason is that C++ is not interoperable. No, no, no! one word for everyone. CORBA! I'm sorry to say that, but dream on... marek

Re: time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Brandon Mitchell said: Hi Aaron, I would be interested in seeing your design. It may clear up some concerns as to why you are picking your language (which seems to have I would like to see it as well. So far, not even a single argument has been presented to justify the selection of C++ -

Re: time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Marcus Brinkmann said: This mail is ignoring Aaron's request for peace over this topic, but I am I just can't resist writing it: there was NO war on this subject, so why do you and Aaron want to make peace? become the new standard, then the language you decide to use is very important.

Re: time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Marcus Brinkmann said: [...] but it should have not. Please ignore my last mail on this topic. I just noticed that the general discussions was vastly ahead of your contribution. Too late :))) I just responded :) marek pgpHQENkp6Wkz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Marcus Brinkmann said: On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:03:46AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: 3. Most programmers would write code in C Yeah, uh. But that's the point isn't it? No, that's the reality. The current dpkg is written in C. How many programmers are working on it? Again, that's

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Marcus Brinkmann said: On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:47:59AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: But the problem is that templates, nor exceptions or rtti (which are all elements of MODERN C++ programming) don't work well enough on the GNU platform... It would be silly to try to use all

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Marcus Brinkmann said: Again, that's not an argument. People come and people go, and more of them know C than C++. Besides, ech..., how can you draw an argument like this??? I can because I see what's happening to dpkg and it worries me. We all are blinded by dpkg. It works, yes. How

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Marcus Brinkmann said: On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:50:26PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: And note that development will just start. By the time this project enters a critical stage, egcs will be improved again. No, the development shouldn't start yet. A project should be presented

Re: time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Marcus Brinkmann said: Of course, you are entitled to your opinion. But the decisions are made by people who to do the work. Not in this case. This is not their graduate project, nor an experiment. It's a package which the entire Debian distribution relies on You're wrong, reread

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Marcus Brinkmann said: dpkg is already far too slow on old hardware...hell, it's too slow on a P200 with 200MB of RAM, now that the status and available files have over 3300 packages detailed in them. Yeah, it's slow, and it's written in C. Linux is slow. It's written in C. Yeah...

Re: time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
* Branden Robinson said: several lines? If so, then please go back AND READ IT. Only then you have a right to jump upon me like that. Before you joined the discussion, we were DISCUSSING matters, now we're FIGHTING and flaming each other. Thank you. What is there to discuss with you?

Apologies (2)

1999-05-20 Thread Marek Habersack
Hi all, Well, I wan't to apologize to all who feel offended with my views and ideas (whether they worth anything or nothing at all). I seems that I am simply not capable of taking part in public discussions or I lack fluency in English to express myself in a clear way. Either way, I just

Re: Apologies (2)

1999-05-21 Thread Marek Habersack
* Marcus Brinkmann said: ideas (whether they worth anything or nothing at all). I seems that I am simply not capable of taking part in public discussions or I lack fluency in English to express myself in a clear way. Someone on IRC told me that there can't be a calm discussion about

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was:

1999-09-15 Thread Marek Habersack
* Steve Lamb said: Why is placing third-party bianary packages in /opt a bad thing? Because /opt is a duplication of an existing file structure which can serve the purpose more than adequately. What people are asking me is what is wrong with /opt when I am pointing out is that there

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Marek Habersack
* Branden Robinson said: On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 05:59:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 5:40:28 PM, Raul wrote: As it happens, I already pointed you at the answer to that question, you were just too lazy to take the hint. So [me being a fool], here's a quote

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Marek Habersack
* Steve Lamb said: Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 2:39:46 PM, Jonathan wrote: Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:14:37 PM, Federico wrote: IMHO, /usr is what we (Debian) control, /usr/local is what I (the sysadmin) control, /opt is where third-party package builders (e.g., Corel, KDE,

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Marek Habersack
* Steve Lamb said: Again, please do not reply above. It is rude. No, it might be inconvenient for YOU, but it's not rude. You are rude, all the time. Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:34:05 PM, Jonathan wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Steve Lamb wrote: Then why /home/ftp instead of /ftp?

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Marek Habersack
* Steve Lamb said: On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 01:49:41PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: So why /opt and not /usr/opt with the possibility of /usr/local/opt? Because unlike opt and local, there really isn't a difference between /opt and /usr/opt -- except that one's a standard. Why not

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Marek Habersack
* Steve Lamb said: Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:53:40 PM, Raul wrote: Actually, the biggest problem with Windows is that it's not a standard. But it is. Oh? Show me an RFC or anything of the kind that makes WIndows standard? The fact that it is installed on almost every OEM equipment

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Marek Habersack
* Steve Lamb said: Considering one can install a fairly robust system (FreeBSD, Debian) over FTP/NFS in under an hour and it takes 2-3 to go through a gig of data I would much rather reinstall the programs and retrieve the relatively small data (/etc, btw, is data). I can't believe what

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Marek Habersack
* Sven LUTHER said: How do you know I don't do just that, via symlinks? I bet you'd never have guessed I have /usr/src/linux symlinked to /sys OK, now argue it as a standard for everyone as /opt is. /opt is a de-facto standard. By usage. By tradition. By habit. By

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Marek Habersack
* Steve Lamb said: None of this describes one bit why it has to be a top level directory. Because it fits the Unix tradition of lazy typists. Im a lazy typist. Hear my carpal tunnel fingers cry out as they type the extra 4 characters in /usr/opt Then why

latest login,passwd + PAM upgrade

1999-09-15 Thread Marek Habersack
Hi, After the today's upgrade of the login and passwd with PAM support I have found one problem. It seems that there's something wrong with the pam_limits module. After enabling it for login I get the 'Module unknown' message and the syslog records what follows: Sep 15 16:41:38 jester

Re: latest login,passwd + PAM upgrade

1999-09-15 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ben Collins said: Sep 15 16:41:38 jester login[30897]: PAM unable to resolve symbol: pam_sm_open_session Sep 15 16:41:38 jester login[30897]: PAM unable to resolve symbol: pam_sm_close_session Any cure for that? Update to the latest PAM 0.69-6 in incoming. Some one else also

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Steve Lamb said: Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 12:29:30 PM, Anders wrote: Then can you tell me how your three steps are easyer and faster them our one step? How are you going to get the data on to the drive without a minimum installation on it in the first place? Geez (that's your

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Sven LUTHER said: taken over by most linux distribs these days. on my sun, i have a /opt but no /usr/local for example. Correct. Linux distros are generally a mixture of SystemV and BSD standards - see the bootup init methods, for one. /opt is a good thing from the SV world,

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Steve Lamb said: or /usr/opt, you are implicitly violating the license, since computer Baz has the same /usr tree as Bar. But, when opt is at /opt, it is not shared and such hassles can be avoided (of course, it can be even more easily avoided by staying away from non-free software, but

(g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
Hi, I've just upgraded the gmc to the latest potato version, but it still has the broken /usr/bin/mc script which calls itself recursively. Also, wouln't it be cleaner if the postinst for this package added an appropriate alias to the /etc/profile and/or /etc/csh.cshrc (and possibly other

Re: More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ben Collins said: It accepts only, e.g.: grendel - cpu [digit] Which is of no use, because setting the limit to 0 doesn't mean disabling it... Any advice? :) Hmmm...looking at the source, it wont accept a line with less than 4 arguments, yet you are correct

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Martin Bialasinski said: Marek /etc/csh.cshrc (and possibly other global shell startup Marek scripts) an alias definition, or a function to call mc in a way Marek which would preserve the exit path of mc? No, directly changing files part of other packages is not allowed by policy. Hmm...

Re: More pam_limits trouble

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ben Collins said: Hmmm...looking at the source, it wont accept a line with less than 4 arguments, yet you are correct that the documentation say otherwise. Let me work on this. I'll have it fixed in the next upload. I have attached a quick (and untested - I didn't have time

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Philip Hands said: Wait a second. So this mc script is an attempt to leave you in the directory you were in when you left mc ? [snip] /etc /tmp the ``cd /etc'' only applies in the shell executed in the brackets. The same goes for the mc script. Any effect of the cd in the script

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Marek Habersack
* Piotr Roszatycki said: On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Marek Habersack wrote: mc() { if [ -x /usr/bin/mc ]; then MC=$(/bin/mktemp /tmp/mc.XX) /usr/bin/mc -P $@ $MC $MC cd $(cat $MC) rm -f $MC fi } I think the more simple is: mc=() { cd $(/usr/bin/mc

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-17 Thread Marek Habersack
* Piotr Roszatycki said: Well that won't work will it? Try running this: cd /tmp; ( cd /etc; pwd ); pwd No no, it isn't mc script but only function in your ~/.bash_profile or global /etc/profile. Exactly that was the point. The function executes in the context of the current

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-17 Thread Marek Habersack
* Eric Weigel said: I'm afraid many people have some kind of function or aliases related to _real_ mc binary and current mc wrapper can broke it. BTW, /usr/bin/mcedit is a symlink to /etc/bin/mc which is an only wrapper. This is the reason that mcedit doesn't work already. Quite.

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-17 Thread Marek Habersack
* Philip Hands said: No no, it isn't mc script but only function in your ~/.bash_profile or global /etc/profile. Exactly that was the point. The function executes in the context of the current shell, not in the child shell which is created when a #!/bin/bash script is invoked. Fair

Re: sash

1999-09-25 Thread Marek Habersack
* Michael Neuffer said: * Raul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990923 16:15]: On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 07:32:50AM -0500, Ashley Clark wrote: Couldn't sash include a PAM module that would change the password to match root's password whenever it was changed? Or am I oversimplifying things?

Re: sash

1999-09-25 Thread Marek Habersack
* Raul Miller said: On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 01:27:51PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: The proposal, as I can see it, is to write a PAM module that could be added to /etc/pam.d/passwd to ask whether the just-changed root password should be cloned into the sashroot account. And that's

Problem with the latest potato update

1999-09-30 Thread Marek Habersack
Hi, Latest potato update contains a package, aleph-dev, with a wrong Priority: line which prevents (until manually fixed) the apt update operation, which aborts with: E: Malformed Priority line E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1) The Priority: line is Priority:

Re: How not to be a nice person (Was: Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality)

1999-10-02 Thread Marek Habersack
* Craig Sanders said: On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 09:06:39PM -0500, The Doctor What wrote: I took care in my message above to remove anything offensive towards Craig. Unfortunately Craig didn't do the same. garbage. you went out of your way to be offensive. to quote the opening line of

Re: How not to be a nice person (Was: Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality)

1999-10-02 Thread Marek Habersack
* Craig Sanders said: and now what is so fucking difficult to understand about that? the word deliberate isn't the first that occurs to me. if you can't comprehend that someone might deliberately choose those words, then that is your problem not mine. such paucity of imagination

Re: How not to be a nice person (Was: Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality)

1999-10-02 Thread Marek Habersack
* Anthony Towns said: On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 11:53:19PM -0500, The Doctor What wrote: The idea was not to say that since I work for *a company* I'm an authority. My point was that I work in the real world and have a counter example. And of course, everyone else on the list doesn't

in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-04 Thread Marek Habersack
Hi, I'm trying to virtualize in.telnetd to access a chrooted virtual server (using tcp_wrappers' twist option and Wietse's chrootuid utility). Everything works just fine until the in.telnetd from chrooted location is execed. It tries to allocate a pty (via openpty() call), but receives an

Re: in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-04 Thread Marek Habersack
* Daniel Burrows said: On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 10:18:51PM +0200, Marek Habersack was heard to say: I'm trying to virtualize in.telnetd to access a chrooted virtual server (using tcp_wrappers' twist option and Wietse's chrootuid utility). Everything works just fine until the in.telnetd

Re: in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-04 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ryan Murray said: to work, although I have no idea how Linux would react to having to having multiple devpts filesystems mounted at once. Probably best to try and see :) Both proc and devpts are mounted. Doesn't matter whether I mount them Have you tried actually mounting them

Re: in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-05 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ryan Murray said: Have you tried actually mounting them in the chroot jail and then having yes. symbolic links to them from the real root? That way there is only one proc,pts directory ever mounted... You cannot symlink over a pseudo-root. It must all be below it. You are

Re: in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-05 Thread Marek Habersack
* Mikolaj J. Habryn said: MH == Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MH Both proc and devpts are mounted. Doesn't matter whether I MH mount them beforehand or whether a wrapper script does it MH after chrooting - the same message appears. I suspected that MH the devpts

Bug#341996: ITP: public.parser.xml2 -- libxml2-based XML parser module for Pike

2005-12-04 Thread Marek Habersack
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: public.parser.xml2 Version : 1.36 Upstream Author : Bill Welliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://modules.gotpike.org/module_info.html?module_id=20 * License : (GPL, LGPL

Bug#341999: ITP: public.tools.configfiles -- Pike module for accessing ini-style configurations

2005-12-04 Thread Marek Habersack
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: public.tools.configfiles Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Bill Welliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://modules.gotpike.org/module_info.html?module_id=25 * License : (GPL

Bug#342018: ITP: public.protocols.syslog -- Pike module implementing the Syslog protocol

2005-12-04 Thread Marek Habersack
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: public.protocols.syslog Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Bill Welliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://modules.gotpike.org/module_info.html?module_id=7 * License : (GPL

Bug#342031: ITP: public.network.pcap -- Pike interface module for the pcap library

2005-12-04 Thread Marek Habersack
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: public.network.pcap Version : 1.2 Upstream Author : Bill Welliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://modules.gotpike.org/module_info.html?module_id=9 * License : (GPL, LGPL

Re: Bug#342031: ITP: public.network.pcap -- Pike interface module for the pcap library

2005-12-04 Thread Marek Habersack
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:53:16AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt scribbled: On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 10:33:59PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: public.network.pcap Will these packages all have a pikeN

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-08 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Jan 08, Aaron Lehmann scribbled: On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 10:35:51AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: Now that you and Eray have publically complained about the team's slowness, that means that after you complete the NM process, you both be joining the NM team to help your fellow

Re: Developer Behavior [new maintainer waiting period]

2001-01-08 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Jan 08, Adam Heath scribbled: On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Vince Mulhollon wrote: Yes, it took me about a year's wait also. I created my pgp key on Dec. 27, 1997. 2 weeks later, I was a developer. Granted, this was before the closing, and the reorganization, but even for that time frame,

Re: Developer Behavior [new maintainer waiting period]

2001-01-08 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Jan 08, Adam Heath scribbled: [snip] Hmm... http://debian.vip.net.pl/caudium, http://debian.vip.net.pl/caudium-unstable - does that prove _anything_ about me? I guess not and the NM process is what there's needed to confirm whether the applicant can do anything good for the project

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-09 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Jan 09, Marcin Owsiany scribbled: On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:03:40PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: How can you be on the keyring while not having an account on auric? Either you are a developer and you have both, or you are not a developer and you have neither. Probably you

ITP: tdb (Trivial DataBase)

2001-05-08 Thread Marek Habersack
Hello, I intent to package tdb (the Trivial Database) which is a GDBM work-alike. The tdb, unlike GDBM, has support for multiple simultaneous writers and internal locking to protect from overlapped writes. From the upstream readme: This is a simple database API. It was inspired by the

Re: ITP: tdb (Trivial DataBase)

2001-05-08 Thread Marek Habersack
** On May 08, Wichert Akkerman scribbled: Previously Marek Habersack wrote: I intent to package tdb (the Trivial Database) which is a GDBM work-alike. The tdb, unlike GDBM, has support for multiple simultaneous writers and internal locking to protect from overlapped writes. From

Re: ITP: tdb (Trivial DataBase)

2001-05-08 Thread Marek Habersack
** On May 08, Wichert Akkerman scribbled: Previously Marek Habersack wrote: I plan to write an extension to Pike that uses tdb - it should be used as a shared library in that case. The upstream sources generate a well working .so, so I thought it might be nice to have it in Debian. Also

Re: ITP: tdb (Trivial DataBase)

2001-05-08 Thread Marek Habersack
** On May 08, Wichert Akkerman scribbled: Previously Marek Habersack wrote: Put that way it makes perfect sense. But why use libtool then? last time I checked they didn't use libtool, although that might have changed since then. 1.0.3 most definitely uses it :) It might seem

Re: step by step HOWTO switch debian installation into utf-8

2001-09-04 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Sep 04, Daniel Burrows scribbled: [snip] - in the configuration screen manually type en_GB, but this doesn't seem to do anything. This may not be the answer you want, but what about adding: export LC_ALL=en_GB or something similar at the front of ~/.xsession? Or just put

Re: step by step HOWTO switch debian installation into utf-8

2001-09-05 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Sep 05, Brian May scribbled: Marek == Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marek Or just put LANG=en_GB in /etc/environment Hmmm. Might be worth trying. However, either this is going to override the language chosen by gdm, or gdm is going to override this. Not an ideal

Re: Can a polish speaker please translate this?

2003-06-21 Thread Marek Habersack
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 05:07:36PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas scribbled: I got a bug report in what seems to be Polish. Unfortunately, babelfish can't handle it. Although I have a good idea of what it might be saying, just to make sure can someone translate it for me? Very thoughtful user,

Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: pmk Version : 0.4.5 Upstream Author : Damien Couderc Xavier Santolaria * URL : http://premk.sf.net/ * License : BSD Description : The pmk project aims to be an

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis scribbled: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: [...] Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts). Description field

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:52:20PM -0500, Steve Langasek scribbled: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:44:17PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: [...] Description : The pmk project aims to be an alternative

kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
Hey list, Running debuild as normal user under the 2.5.73+ kernel results in fakeroot actually setting the file ownership to root (or any other uid/gid for that matter). The result is that the parts which don't run under fakeroot - e.g. debian/rules won't be able to write to the

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:14:56PM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis scribbled: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: It's not quite a substitute, as it won't reuse autoconf's configs etc. How about A tool for configuring software source similar to GNU Autoconf

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 06:21:18PM -0400, Jim Penny scribbled: [snip] Description field is inappropriate, use something like: Description: A GNU/autoconf alternative. Try an alternative to GNU autoconf or a substitute for GNU autoconf, to avoid confusion with Debian's

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-24 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:17:36PM -0400, Colin Walters scribbled: On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 18:34, Marek Habersack wrote: 5. Influence the XFS/kernel maintainers to change the default value of restrict_chown to enabled. I think they really should do this. Having people be able

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-25 Thread Marek Habersack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:57:36PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko scribbled: Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. Modify fakeroot to check the kernel version, the type of fs on which it is currently working and have it issue a sysctl to enable restricted_chown. It looks better

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-25 Thread Marek Habersack
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 08:42:03AM +0200, Andreas Metzler scribbled: Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running debuild as normal user under the 2.5.73+ kernel results in fakeroot actually setting the file ownership to root (or any other uid/gid for that matter). [...] Either

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-25 Thread Marek Habersack
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:03:26AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis scribbled: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 03:18:28AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: * lose the article Why? * do not capitalize the beginning of the description unless a proper noun, proper adjective, abbreviation, or

Re: kernel 2.5.73+, fakeroot, debuild - a small problem

2003-06-25 Thread Marek Habersack
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:30:32PM +1000, Herbert Xu scribbled: Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running debuild as normal user under the 2.5.73+ kernel results in fakeroot actually setting the file ownership to root (or any other uid/gid for that matter). The result

debian-devel-changes question/request

2005-02-14 Thread Marek Habersack
Hey folks, It's just a simple question/request. Would it be possible to include custom headers in the messages sent to debian-devel-changes that would contain the package name, version and distribution, like so: X-Debian-Package: foo X-Debian-PackageVersion: 1.2.3-1 X-Debian-PackageDist:

[coreutils,hppa] - touch broken on hppa

2003-11-05 Thread Marek Habersack
Hello, It seems that touch(1) is broken on hppa: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/pike7.2-7.2.546$ ls -l build/linux-2.4.20-64-parisc64/precompile.sh -rwxr-xr-x1 grendel Debian 3475 Nov 5 22:47 build/linux-2.4.20-64-parisc64/precompile.sh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/pike7.2-7.2.546$ touch

Re: [coreutils,hppa] - touch broken on hppa

2003-11-06 Thread Marek Habersack
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:55:50AM +0100, Santiago Vila scribbled: On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Marek Habersack wrote: It seems that touch(1) is broken on hppa: [...] The above is on the same machine but not inside the chroot. In the first case the version of coreutils is 5.0

Re: Bug#218832: ITP: libnettle -- a low-level cryptographic library

2003-11-06 Thread Marek Habersack
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:53:38AM -0500, John Belmonte scribbled: Marek Habersack wrote: * License : GPL, LGPL, Public Domain What does this mean exactly? It's a mix of licenses of the source files composing the library. My guess is that it means some parts of the library are under

Re: Bug#218832: ITP: libnettle -- a low-level cryptographic library

2003-11-06 Thread Marek Habersack
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:22:31PM -0500, John Belmonte scribbled: Marek Habersack wrote: My guess is that it means some parts of the library are under GPL, some under LGPL, and some in the public domain. If that's the case, the library as a whole must be considered to be under the GPL

Re: Bug#218832: ITP: libnettle -- a low-level cryptographic library

2003-11-06 Thread Marek Habersack
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:50:52PM -0500, John Belmonte scribbled: Chad Walstrom wrote: My guess is that it means some parts of the library are under GPL, some under LGPL, and some in the public domain. If that's the case, the library as a whole must be considered to be under the GPL,

Re: Bug#218832: ITP: libnettle -- a low-level cryptographic library

2003-11-06 Thread Marek Habersack
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:21:59PM -0500, John Belmonte scribbled: Marek Habersack wrote: Quoting from the nettle manual: Nettle is distributed under the GNU General Public License (GPL) (see the file COPYING for details). However, most of the individual files are dual licensed under

Re: Bug#218832: ITP: libnettle -- a low-level cryptographic library

2003-11-08 Thread Marek Habersack
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 08:11:53PM -0500, John Belmonte scribbled: [snip] I'm interested in the notion of license metadata for file packages (in the general sense)-- what the semantics would be, whether or how it could be useful, etc. As someone pointed out, there is no such thing for

Re: Bug#218832: ITP: libnettle -- a low-level cryptographic library

2003-11-08 Thread Marek Habersack
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 08:57:36PM -0500, John Belmonte scribbled: Marek Habersack wrote: In fact, I'm considering adding a list of files in the library and their associated licenses to the README.Debian in the package once it hits Sid (I've uploaded it already). I grew aware of problems

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