mailing list hiccup

1997-12-14 Thread bruce
Our SMTP server on the master system stopped answering for a little while. I sent a hangup to inetd and it started behaving again. Some list articles were delayed, and some are sitting at our alternate MX host right now and will eventually make it to the list. Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: news gateways

1997-12-14 Thread bruce
From: Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does this mean we shouldn't include the list addresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in our web pages? If so, I guess I have to fix some pages... I don't have a problem with the list addresses being in the WWW pages. We should be cognizant that people do troll

Re: developer lists to leave news gateway

1997-12-14 Thread bruce
From: Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is going on here? I thought we were talking about the issue? You must have missed last week's debate because of your school papers. If you think the problems are because of the WWW archive, and from the evidence you've presented to me personaly

Taking over tkman

1997-12-14 Thread Yann Dirson
If noone objects, I'll take tkman. The version we have seems to be obsolete since August. -- Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Stop making M$-Bill richer richer, alt-email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | support Debian GNU/Linux: debian-email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | more

Re: bashisms

1997-12-14 Thread Herbert Xu
Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adrian Bridgett) wrote on 27.11.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are alot of scripts which use unnecessary bashisms. Apart from complex scripts most of these can be easily changed to conform to the POSIX shell. This has the added advantage of

Re: Debian-devel subscriber count

1997-12-14 Thread bmbuck
Here's one lurker sticking his head up for a second. I lurk so I get some picture of what's happening on the hamm front, beyond what I get on debian-user. I don't post because I don't develop (yet ;). At the risk of posting a gratuitous message, me too. I like running my machine near the

Re: news gateways

1997-12-14 Thread Avery Pennarun
On 14 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does this mean we shouldn't include the list addresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in our web pages? If so, I guess I have to fix some pages... I don't have a problem with the list addresses being in the WWW pages.

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-14 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Scott K. Ellis wrote:' On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: Why can't we do the following: In both bo-updates and hamm: libc5: No conflicts, no depends (predepends on ldso, of course) (solves the problem of not being able to upgrade easily) [...] This still forces people

WvDial 0.1 available as a Debian package

1997-12-14 Thread Avery Pennarun
Hi all, I'm not an official Debian developer yet -- though my PGP key has been signed now so hopefully this will accelerate the process -- but rather than wait, I've released WvDial 0.1-1 on my own. I'll attach the announcement (posted to comp.os.linux.announce) below. Tell me if it works for

Re: Libc6 progress: 1997-12-12

1997-12-14 Thread Anthony Fok
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Richard Braakman wrote: Heiko Schlittermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: wml-1.3.1-1 Hello! :) If you don't mind, mind if I give WML a try? :) (i.e. to do a non-maintainer upload of wml_1.4.5-0.1 if I manage to compile it on my computer. :) Thanks! Anthony -- Anthony Fok

Re: RAS on an NT box.

1997-12-14 Thread Philip Hands
I need to connect a Linux box to an NT server over a dial-up line. The NT box uses a Remote Access Server. I remember seeing a discussion of this recently, but can't find the reference in my mail archives. Can anyone clue me in as to what package/howto I need to look at to deal with this? You

Re: RAS on an NT box.

1997-12-14 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Scheetz) wrote on 13.12.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need to connect a Linux box to an NT server over a dial-up line. The NT box uses a Remote Access Server. I remember seeing a discussion of this recently, but can't find the reference in my mail archives. Can anyone

Re: news gateways

1997-12-14 Thread David Frey
On Sun, Dec 14 1997 1:09 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We should be cognizant that people do troll for mailto: URLs and spam them. This is the real problem IMO with the problem below. The major problem is that the WWW list

Re: 68k test machine?

1997-12-14 Thread Joel Klecker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Regarding Re: 68k test machine? of 12:23 PM -0800 1997-12-13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a box in the garage here that says Mac IIx. I've been holding on to it hoping that it might someday support the 68k port. Any chance of that? Yes. In fact, it may be

Plan to package xscavenger

1997-12-14 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello all! I intend to package xscavenger, a lode runner like game (remember the good old commodore 64 days?). To be honest, I already did. I also contacted the author, and we work together on a new upstream release. The whole thing is GPL, and it includes a level editor and some dozen levels,

Re: Packages available for expert maintainers or newbies

1997-12-14 Thread Juan Cespedes
On Sat, 29 Nov 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote: Other available packages also for new maintainers: syslinux Boot loader for Debian Disks Sorry, but *I* am the maintainer of `syslinux', and I don't want to orphan it. So, I'll go on maintaining it, if noone objects. -- Juan

new GTK+ release

1997-12-14 Thread bruce
There is a new GTK+ release 0.99.0 . This is coordinated with the upcoming GIMP 0.99.16 release. Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

/sbin/hwclock and /etc/init.d/boot

1997-12-14 Thread Douglas Bates
I have the 2.7.1-2 version of util-linux installed. It appears that the /sbin/clock program is no longer available as it has been replaced by /sbin/hwclock. However, there is still a part of /etc/init.d/boot that calls clock to set up the hardware clock and system clock correspondence. # #

Re: /sbin/hwclock and /etc/init.d/boot

1997-12-14 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the 2.7.1-2 version of util-linux installed. It appears that the /sbin/clock program is no longer available as it has been replaced by /sbin/hwclock. However, there is still a part of /etc/init.d/boot that calls clock to

Re: RAS on an NT box.

1997-12-14 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Philip Hands wrote: I need to connect a Linux box to an NT server over a dial-up line. The NT box uses a Remote Access Server. I remember seeing a discussion of this recently, but can't find the reference in my mail archives. Can anyone clue me in as to what

Re: I take debmake

1997-12-14 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 08:45:27PM +0100, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: [snip] I have taken over the maintenance of debmake (on a temporary basis). Some time ago, Ian said he was going to write a replacement for it, so I'm just going to keep debmake frozen and will fix bugs if I receive suitable

Re: I take debmake

1997-12-14 Thread Guy Maor
Adrian Bridgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 08:45:27PM +0100, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: [snip] I have taken over the maintenance of debmake (on a temporary basis). Some time ago, Ian said he was going to write a replacement for it, so I'm just going to keep

Ray Dassen, read this!

1997-12-14 Thread Guy Maor
Email to you is bouncing. --- Start of forwarded message --- Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 20:10:44 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Leiden University, Dept. of Mathematics

Re: I take debmake

1997-12-14 Thread Rob Browning
Adrian Bridgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about using debhelper rather than having another packaging suite? IIRC Ian said that debmake was broken in some respects and that Debian should have a decent packaging tool - IMO debhelper fits that nicely :-) I don't believe that debhelper

Re: Ray Dassen, read this!

1997-12-14 Thread Bart Schuller
On Dec 14, Guy Maor wrote Email to you is bouncing. Thanks, I just phoned Ray, he will have a word with his sysadmins in about 11 hours. -- Bart Schuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] At Lunalabs, where the Lunatech Research http://www.lunatech.com/ future is made today..

Re: /sbin/hwclock and /etc/init.d/boot

1997-12-14 Thread Michel LESPINASSE
My immediate problem is that I have the hardware clock set to GMT and my system clock is never getting set to the local timezone. Do you see /etc/localtime when you type date +%Z ? If so, then I'd say that you ran in a bug with the timezones package. Just purge it and install it again

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-14 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, David Engel wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 11:47:50AM -0500, Scott K. Ellis wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: hamm: libc5-altdev, depends on hamm-libc5, OK. conflicts with bo-libc5-dev and hamm-libc6-dev, Unnecessary. provides

Re: Ray Dassen, read this!

1997-12-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Bart Schuller wrote: Thanks, I just phoned Ray, he will have a word with his sysadmins in about 11 hours. This is (one of) Ray's sysadmins. The problem should be fixed by now. We seem to have had a corrupt NIS database. Wichert. --

Re: Plan to package xscavenger

1997-12-14 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Hello all! I intend to package xscavenger, a lode runner like game (remember the good old commodore 64 days?). To be honest, I already did. I also contacted the author, and we work together on a new upstream release. The whole thing is

Re: Bug#988: `script' is insecure, and general tty insecurity

1997-12-14 Thread Adam P. Harris
Hello, Mr. Nag. You've probably already been notified of this, but many of the URLs generated by this `nag' script are incorrect. For instance, you say: Nag == Nag [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The history of this bug can be found at: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/988.html or Should

Re: BS in rxvt+ncurses

1997-12-14 Thread Mark W. Eichin
I heard that the original DEC vt100? terminals had delete there and so they Nope. The VT100 *actually* had both keys there: +--++--++--+ |~`||BS||BK| +--++--++--+ +---++--+ | ||DL| | |+--+ +--+ |+--+ | RET ||\|| +--++--+ where RET was labeled

FUN USE AND INSTALL DIRECTLY ON X WINDOW

1997-12-14 Thread TABLEAU
Hi I use debian 1,3,1. for the future version de debian, it's possible in french ? it's possible to mask the password? ( all ) Why debian it's not installed directly with X Window ? X+ Excuse for my english, it's not correct Bye -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word

Re: Is cp -a allowed in debian/rules?

1997-12-14 Thread Mark W. Eichin
Note also that the *shell* issue is hard because it's hardcoded into scripts in various ways, so you really need /bin/sh to work whatever it is -- the use of cp, however, can be dealt with by adding /usr/gnu/bin to your path :-) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word

Re: unstripped stuff in /usr/lib

1997-12-14 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could let the -dev versions of packages have diversions of the libraries to unstripped versions, and have the runtime versions have stripped versions. Since most of the times -dev packages are needed to compile only (headers and the symlink from lib.so), I think

Re: Plan to package xscavenger

1997-12-14 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Dec 14, 1997 at 10:32:51PM +0100, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Hello all! I intend to package xscavenger, a lode runner like game (remember the good old commodore 64 days?). AFAIK, we already have a xscavenger package, which is

Re: Plan to package xscavenger

1997-12-14 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Dec 15, 1997 at 12:20:10AM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 1997 at 10:32:51PM +0100, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Hello all! I intend to package xscavenger, a lode runner like game (remember the good old commodore

Re: FUN USE AND INSTALL DIRECTLY ON X WINDOW

1997-12-14 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Dec 14, 1997 at 11:53:07PM +0100, TABLEAU wrote: Hi I use debian 1,3,1. for the future version de debian, it's possible in french ? Maybe. Some people are working on internationalization and localization. However, it is a big task. If you want to help, mail to

Re: FUN USE AND INSTALL DIRECTLY ON X WINDOW

1997-12-14 Thread Oliver Elphick
TABLEAU wrote: Hi I use debian 1,3,1. for the future version de debian, it's possible in french ? Some people are working on internationalisation - see http://www.debian.org/international.html it's possible to mask the password? ( all ) ?? Why debian it's not installed