ter netgroups and maintain them (move computers in and
out of groups)
- maintain automount maps in LDAP
Anything more?
The most important was not the feature set, but the simplicity of the
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so what extra would have to be done by the LDAP admin GUI?
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after this point is kept out
because there is no more room on the DVD.
If you see any obsolete packages here, please let us know so we can
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we drop two and only keep one? What are their strengths and
weaknesses? Do they have different user groups?
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52.4 1.2 kig
24.5 0.6 kseg
1.0 0.0 geogebra-installer-linex(notoncd) (notwanted)
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If these numbers are anything to go by, we could drop kseg and keep
kig, at least. :)
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forget some languages?
Is there other things that would be included in the application
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here is a good application, but missing some translations, we
> should try to add the missing translation. It would be a pity to
> remove great software only because some translation is missing.
I agree. But if we have several similar packages, I believe we should
go with the one with translati
tallation is on the first
DVD, and the other half is on the second DVD. We do not want the
admin having to switch DVDs several times during installation.
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> The DVD is overfull, and options increase congintive strain for
> those that need to select which tool to use and confuse those that
> want to to use Debian Edu. Not making a choice is doing our users a
> disservice.
I started on a list of "duplicate&quo
le examples are DNS
(powerdns and bind uses two incompatible schemas) and Samba and Gosa
(see http://bugs.debian.org/582899 >). There are no such
problems with Active directory.
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> Please include packages for language "Brazilian Portuguese" (pt_br).
Sound good to me. But then someone need to look after the pt_br tasks
as well. We also currently lack active translator for that language.
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/ftp.skolelinux.org/debian
+[ "$mirrorurl" ] || mirrorurl=http://cdn.debian.net/debian
[ "$archiveurl" ] || archiveurl=http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux
[ "$hostname" ] || hostname=pxeinstall
[ "$domain" ] || domain=intern
@@ -187,7 +187,7 @@
# Avo
At the moment, we have no working LDAP adminstration tool in Debian
Edu/Squeeze. This is a problem that need to be adressed. On the
other hand we do have some options (lwat, cipux, gosa), and some
developers working to find a solution.
For lwat, there is as far as I know no developer willing to
"[cn=admins,ou=group,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no]/member &
this" none
by * none
Are there better ways to do this?
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> description. The default is 71.
I tried to set this to 0 or 1 and reinsert the security line, but
Kerberos failed to start and LDAP refused the kdcs tries to log in.
No idea why. perhaps bind_ssf overrides localssf? Perhaps some
combination work, but
ae sure most users can't use LDAP bind to
authenticate, and enforce Kerberos authentication instead.
Putting the list back on the recipient list, to let them know about
this.
This should solve at least some of the detected errors in the current
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This email mean that gnash was just removed testing because of release
critical bugs, which causes Debian Edu to loose our Flash plugin.
Without anyone fixing Gnash to get back into testing/squeeze, we will
probably end up without having flash implementation implemented in the
squeeze release. :(
something else, as I was able to log in on a later
installation.
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ps and slapd, and see if we can get encryption working.
I got one suggestion to use the gnutls tools to generate the
certificate instead of the openssl tools we use at the moment, but
have not investigated how to do that nor if it work.
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m installed. I havn't had a look to the amount of space
> which will be wasted if that would be installed as default. ;-)
The DVD is full, and can't fit all the packages our tasks include. So
I believe we should drop something from the default installation
before we add some
APT cache, but I
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the netinst nor PXE.
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o all
teachers. I also suspect it is best to control access on the LDAP
level, to make sure any LDAP tool can be used to update LDAP with the
correct privileges.
Any opinions on what the future setup for administrative privileges
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[Christian Kuelker]
> Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> >What kind of admin roles should we provide out of the box in Debian
> >Edu/Squeeze?
>
> I suggest:
> adminor admins
> jradmin or jradmins
> teacher or teachers
> student*
thin client
servers, allowing one to easily set up LTSP and hook it into a existing
network infrastructure, but I have not had time to test this yet.
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at the end of
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Squeeze>. Please look at
the packages currently being installed and see if there are other
duplicates. For example, Do we need gnuplot in addition to the other
graph drawing tools already included?
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Not quite sure why we add that one. It was added 2006-01-13 with this
changelog entry:
[ Andreas Schuldei ]
* making slapd use ipv4 only in cf.ldapserver (for uml testframework, where
long timeouts occure when probing for ipv6 stuff)
No idea if it can be dropped or not.
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> As the DVD is already full, we would have to drop some packages from
> our tasks or stop making dual-architecture DVDs (i386/amd64) to fit
> all these on one DVD.
I came up with a different idea to make the DVD work better. I
reduced the priority of the gnome
I was able to use
> the lenny image to create a usb installer, following instructions on
> the debian installer page. The only problem I had was the installer
> searching for a CD during an ltspserver install.
I'm happy to bring you or any one else up to speed on the
autobuilding, i
justments to the client autoconfiguration and preseeding to make
sure FQDN names is always used.
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on is not
installed!
error: ./taskpkgs: Package jackd in task education-thin-client-server is not
installed!
error: ./webcache: squid typo causing APT problem is present (#591839).
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p> does this affect Debian Edu builds? If so, how?
Not as far as I know. The email is about the location for CD images
built by Steve, and not related to the firmware packages we put on our
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Use e.g. "ldap.intern" as the Common Name, and put
> "DNS:ldap" in the subjectAltName (google openssl subjectAltName for
> more information).
Sound like a better idea, as it do not force us to change all
instances of ldap to ldap.intern. Testing it now.
Happy hacking,
g sure clients connect to the FQDN seem to have solved the
certificate checking problem with LDAP.
The fix is in squeeze-test, and all self tests seem to be still
working.
One problem fixed, a million more to go. :)
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c stuff to not run when
the clients boot but when the LTSP server is installed or boot.
The dynamic DNS script was in Lenny too, but the LDAP script is new in
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enough work for everyone.
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Hopefully alpha2 will have a properly working LDAP setup so we can ask
for feedback on the main-server setup.
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packages by dropping some kernel architectures and dropping valgrind
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Do we want evolution and kicad in the default installation? :)
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> Not quite sure how we can fix this, but it seem to me that the
> dynamic lookup stuff for LTSP need to be changed to get the clients
> booting faster. I suspect we need to change the dynamic stuff to
> not run when the clients boot but when the LTSP server
later.
Do you need more info? When is the latest point in time we can upload
new debian-edu packages and hope to get them into squeeze?
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http://www.aftenposten.no/video/article3497522.ece > gave me the
graphis but no sound. No idea what is going on, but I saw the missing
sound issue with my build as well.
Do you see the same?
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> Visiting http://www2.nrk.no/spill/?spill=jokernord > and
> http://www.aftenposten.no/video/article3497522.ece > gave me the
> graphis but no sound. No idea what is going on, but I saw the missing
> sound issue with my build as well.
I found the cause of
ave been neglected in Debian for more than two
years. See for yourself on http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lwat.html >.
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but failed.
There is btw some minor charset issue in the Norwegian version. Some
text have UTF-8 displayed as ISO-8859-1.
Perhaps we should link to the sign psot from the default start page in
Debian Edu? Which link text should we use if we do that?
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No, it isn't. I talk about the index.html page in the
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the first time in Squeeze.
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ot;The Linux
> Signpost".
I added
http://linuxsignpost.org/";>The Linux Signpost
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names (as in, DNS and DHCP need to have synced names).
The names are used in netgroups, so renamed hosts need to be updated
in the netgroups too.
So renaming should work. :)
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the rest should be small matter of programming in
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Yes, and the transition seem to be complete as jackd now is
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eve the focus of alpha1 should be the LTSP client experience.
For alpha2, I hope we can focus on the main-server setup, but before
that can happen we need to finalize the LDAP structure work.
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debian-edu-config package to enable it, and pull in the package using
the common task.
We could at least add it to the documentation for Lenny and Squeeze,
to let admins know how to set it up on their own.
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binaries from a mirror close to the build machine?
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We no longer set up usplash with Debian Edu in squeeze, so I believe
the correct approach is to simply drop the -usplash package.
It would be nice to get a replacement up and running, but at the
moment it is more important to get rid of the usplash dependencies.
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What about building the usplash image, but not the usplash package?
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try:
# Add user entry with overridden home directory in /etc/passwd.
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# XXX Should be rewritten in python, I guess
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consolekit tools (do not remember their names) list the user as a
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The Cipux option is still unknown. I am not aware of anyone having
spent any time to get it working out of the box with Debian
Edu/Squeeze
So this comment is still true:
[Petter Reinholdtsen 2010-07-30]
> At the moment, we have no working LDAP adminstration tool in Debian
> Edu/S
[Petter Reinholdtsen]
> I was planning to make a alpha1 release and ask for tester of LTSP,
> but then a bug causing DVD installs to fail (#595903) showed up, and
> it was impossible to make the release. :( This should be fixed in
> apt-setup version 1:0.47, but it is not in Squeeze y
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> Am I right, that #598457 makes this statement mood?
Yeah. The old problems are gone, but new ones have showed up. :(
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ed a netinst test installation in kvm. Selected
norwegian language and keyboard, and the main-server profile.
Installation went flawless and running debian-edu-test-install after
the installation exposed no errors.
Did not look into the services, only ran the test script.
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Which educational meta package is the best target for this package?
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"I will pay 100$ to the Gnash project to develop AVM2 support but
only if 10 other people will do the same."
- Petter Reinholdtsen, free software developer
Deadline to sign up by: 24th December 2010
The Gnash project need to get support for the new Flash fi
our
own repository to get a version with support for netgroups and
kerberos and the other things that are missing. I also hope we can
get support for powerdns to avoid having to rewrite that part of the
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hard to believe they were here for the long run, given the complete
lack of progress and interest for a long time.
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e effect imediately. All the bind based solutions I have seen so
far uses regular exports from LDAP to files bind understands, causing
a delay until changes show up in DNS. Because of this, I believe we
are better off by keeping PowerDNS. And thus I believe a third option
- change GOsa to wor
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on CipUX to help out as
a Debian Edu developer.
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ver profile to be
installable from the CD, but I believe it is good to have the
debian-edu* packages on the CD.
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s can take their desktop
> home with them. but rdp would probably feel more at home with the
> windows people.
As RDP require nothing extra installed on the windows machines, it
seem like a good idea.
No idea if sound etc work. :) If you got windows, give it a try.
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we
need to test it slighly.
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upliating each others
functionallity, I believe we can do much by just dropping unwated
packages. See the end of
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Squeeze >.
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ake
> things harder for the vast majority.
Who does it make it harder for, and who does it make it easier for?
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ested that this no longer is the case, given that
you claim that I am not telling the truth.
Nothing would make me happer, as the 686 kernel is a better
alternative for modern hardware.
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it last week. Not too surprising, as it
has not been part of any stable release yet.
I'm not against dropping blender, but I believe we should try to look
at the complete picture before we do so.
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name), list it in /etc/exports as a exported NFS area (run exportfs -a
for it to take effect), and then update the automount rules in LDAP to
list this mount point.
This will make sure all hosts have the files on that disk available
using the same path.
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e crappy software and heaps of duplicated
functionallity, and believe we should start there to increase the
quality of the Debian Edu distribution.
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