Re: Install problem
On 07.08.23 00:39, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote: [...] I physically ejected the faulty PSU and the machine has been up for many days now. Well, now one PSU in my first rx2660 is playing dead, too. But the system doesn't yet refuse to start. I removed it anyhow and replaced it with one PSU from my DL385 G5 - same part number and OEM model for PSU. Hence I assume you can put DL385 G5 (and also G2) PSUs on your watch list, too. Though from checking on Ebay, it might be cheaper to just buy a whole system (DL380 G5, DL385 G2/G5) with two PSUs instead of just the PSU(s). The problem is: you can't put your nose on the PSUs prior to buying them to sniff if they're "toasty" or "fresh" (which is true for both options, though). Cheers, Frank
Re: Install problem
On Aug 1, 2023, at 10:20, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote: On Aug 1, 2023, at 02:48, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 01.08.23 08:41, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote: [...] Oh dear… did I just jinx it?! 68BMC *3 0x2064C614CB020520 016F41080300 POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT 30 Jul 2023 07:44:11 67BMC *3 0x2064C614CB020510 016F40080300 POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT 30 Jul 2023 07:44:11 Hopefully not. What did you do (prior to that)? The machine was on and running. When I came back it was off, red front panel light blinking and that message was present on the BMC. It turns back on OK and runs for an hour or so more at which time the same failure repeats. I might have to get on the market for new power supplies without the problem you were describing… I physically ejected the faulty PSU and the machine has been up for many days now. Cheers, Frank
Re: Install problem
> On Aug 1, 2023, at 02:48, Frank Scheiner wrote: > > > > On 01.08.23 08:41, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote: >> [...] >> Oh dear… did I just jinx it?! >> 68BMC *3 0x2064C614CB020520 016F41080300 >> POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT >> 30 Jul 2023 07:44:11 >> 67BMC *3 0x2064C614CB020510 016F40080300 >> POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT >> 30 Jul 2023 07:44:11 > > Hopefully not. What did you do (prior to that)? > The machine was on and running. When I came back it was off, red front panel light blinking and that message was present on the BMC. It turns back on OK and runs for an hour or so more at which time the same failure repeats. I might have to get on the market for new power supplies without the problem you were describing… > Cheers, > Frank
Re: Install problem
On Jul 29, 2023, at 21:57, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote: On Jul 29, 2023, at 13:38, Frank Scheiner wrote: Hi again, just some other thing that came to my mind right now: Don't leave your rx2660 in standby with mains connected over longer times, because its PSUs will get quite hot otherwise and most likely age faster than normal if not burn up over time. The DL380 G5 and DL385 G2 and G5 (at least mine, upgraded from a G2) all seem to have the same problem. Thanks Frank. I am most certainly going to check mine. Last year one of the two PSUs on my rx2660 died. I am not down to one. I’ve been actually browsing eBay for a replacement. This data will come in handy when picking a new one. Oh dear… did I just jinx it?! 68BMC *3 0x2064C614CB020520 016F41080300 POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT 30 Jul 2023 07:44:11 67BMC *3 0x2064C614CB020510 016F40080300 POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT 30 Jul 2023 07:44:11 [1] states it is a design flaw. [2] mentions that there are newer PSU revisions that might be OK in standby, so maybe you're lucky and have one of those in yours already. Cheers, Frank [1]: https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/hp-proliant-dl380-g5-server-is-the-power-supply-really-broken/td-p/7001911 [2]: https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/dl380-g5-power-supplies-overheat-when-plugged-in-but-off/td-p/3982566/page/3
Re: Install problem
On 01.08.23 08:41, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote: [...] Oh dear… did I just jinx it?! 68 BMC *3 0x2064C614CB020520 016F41080300 POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT 30 Jul 2023 07:44:11 67 BMC *3 0x2064C614CB020510 016F40080300 POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT 30 Jul 2023 07:44:11 Hopefully not. What did you do (prior to that)? Cheers, Frank
Re: Install problem
> On Jul 29, 2023, at 13:38, Frank Scheiner wrote: > > Hi again, > > just some other thing that came to my mind right now: > > Don't leave your rx2660 in standby with mains connected over longer > times, because its PSUs will get quite hot otherwise and most likely age > faster than normal if not burn up over time. The DL380 G5 and DL385 G2 > and G5 (at least mine, upgraded from a G2) all seem to have the same > problem. > Thanks Frank. I am most certainly going to check mine. Last year one of the two PSUs on my rx2660 died. I am not down to one. I’ve been actually browsing eBay for a replacement. This data will come in handy when picking a new one. > [1] states it is a design flaw. [2] mentions that there are newer PSU > revisions that might be OK in standby, so maybe you're lucky and have > one of those in yours already. > > Cheers, > Frank > > [1]: > https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/hp-proliant-dl380-g5-server-is-the-power-supply-really-broken/td-p/7001911 > > [2]: > https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/dl380-g5-power-supplies-overheat-when-plugged-in-but-off/td-p/3982566/page/3 >
Re: Install problem
Hi again, just some other thing that came to my mind right now: Don't leave your rx2660 in standby with mains connected over longer times, because its PSUs will get quite hot otherwise and most likely age faster than normal if not burn up over time. The DL380 G5 and DL385 G2 and G5 (at least mine, upgraded from a G2) all seem to have the same problem. [1] states it is a design flaw. [2] mentions that there are newer PSU revisions that might be OK in standby, so maybe you're lucky and have one of those in yours already. Cheers, Frank [1]: https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/hp-proliant-dl380-g5-server-is-the-power-supply-really-broken/td-p/7001911 [2]: https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/dl380-g5-power-supplies-overheat-when-plugged-in-but-off/td-p/3982566/page/3
Re: Install problem
Hi Mike, On 29.07.23 10:01, Mike Hosken wrote: Hi Frank, Adrian and anyone else, I've tried everything you suggested and had no luck unfortunately. I removed the quiet from the boot options with your suggested changes and got this output. Not being a kernel person but with google I managed to find that Adrian has come across this exact issue and with this kernel. I therefore suspect that the issue is with the install cd. I did notice an updated debian-installer with a later kernel available on the ports cd image site. Is this issue fixed with kernel-image-6.3.0-1-itanium-di 6.3.7-1 ia64 It is fixed with 6.3.0-0 (6.3.2 to be exact, see [this thread] for details). [this thread]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ia64/2023/05/msg00010.html and would it be possible to get an updated iso produced ? Just to be sure: You managed to get a working installation with an older than the latest installer ISO? Would it then be possible to start anew and than just install a newer kernel image from snapshot.debian.org before actually upgrading the remaining OS, e.g. this one: https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-ports/20230703T174302Z/pool-ia64/main/l/linux/linux-image-6.3.0-2-mckinley_6.3.11-1_ia64.deb ...or maybe even this one: https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-ports/20230703T174302Z/pool-ia64/main/l/linux/linux-image-6.4.0-0-mckinley_6.4.1-1~exp1_ia64.deb Cheers, Frank
RE: Install problem
Hi Adrian, It Was this one. https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/12.0/ia64/debian-12.0.0-ia64-NETINST-1.iso Mike -Original Message- From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [mailto:glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de] Sent: Saturday, 29 July 2023 7:42 pm To: Mike Hosken Cc: debian-ia64@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Install problem Hello Mike! On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 16:40 +1200, Mike Hosken wrote: > I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and have run > into > some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t boot. I get to grub > and > choose install, it starts to boot and then the system reboots. Choosing expert > mode causes the same issue. Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier > install cd and managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system > breaks > trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be kernel > parameters. Please provide us with links to the exact image that you tested. Some architectures are broken on certain images and "latest" is ambiguous in this context as some users refer to the snapshot folder while others point to the release version folders (although, there aren't releases in Debian Ports!). Also, boot the kernel in verbose mode (remove "quiet" from the GRUB command line) and post the kernel error message on the mailing list. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
RE: Install problem
Hi Frank, Adrian and anyone else, I've tried everything you suggested and had no luck unfortunately. I removed the quiet from the boot options with your suggested changes and got this output. Not being a kernel person but with google I managed to find that Adrian has come across this exact issue and with this kernel. I therefore suspect that the issue is with the install cd. I did notice an updated debian-installer with a later kernel available on the ports cd image site. Is this issue fixed with kernel-image-6.3.0-1-itanium-di 6.3.7-1 ia64 and would it be possible to get an updated iso produced ? [0.00] Linux version 6.1.0-9-itanium (debian-ker...@lists.debian.org) (gcc-12 (Debian 12.2.0-12) 12.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.40) #1 SMP Debian 6.1.27-1 (2023-05-08) [0.00] efi: EFI v2.00 by HP [0.00] efi: SALsystab=0x3ee7a000 ACPI 2.0=0x3fde6000 ESI=0x3ee7b000 SMBIOS=0x3ee7c000 HCDP=0x3fde4000 [ 12.165278] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... [ 12.169274] Entered OS MCA handler. PSP=2001fff21320 cpu=0 monarch=1 [ 12.169274] 6All OS MCA slaves have reached rendezvous [ 12.169274] mlogbuf_finish: printing switched to urgent mode, MCA/INIT might be dodgy or fail. [ 12.169274] Delaying for 5 seconds... Thanks Mike Hosken -Original Message- From: Frank Scheiner [mailto:frank.schei...@web.de] Sent: Saturday, 29 July 2023 6:13 pm To: Mike Hosken; debian-ia64@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Install problem Hi Mike, On 29.07.23 06:40, Mike Hosken wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and > have run into some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t > boot. I get to grub and choose install, it starts to boot and then > the system reboots. Choosing expert mode causes the same issue. > Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier install cd and > managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks > trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be > kernel parameters. I have always blacklisted the "radeon" module for my rx2660s: ``` modprobe.blacklist=radeon ``` ...but that could require to use it over iLO MP exclusively, which is not too bad or too hard to do (via both telnet and serial). IIRC you should get the default configuration by pushing the button at the rear for a longer time (see e.g. [1] for details about its functionality) and then login over serial (9600 bps, 8n1) with "Admin:Admin". After configuring telnet access (or maybe it is configured per default already and uses DHCP) you can control it via the iLO MP network port, too. E.g. to power on the machine enter command menu (or mode?) via "cm", then enter `ps -on -nc`. Hit "Ctrl+B" to return to the main menu and enter "co" to get to the system console. "Ctrl+B" also returns from the system console, if you need to issue a hard reset (in command menu enter `rs -nc`) for example. My first rx2660 also still has: ``` hardened_usercopy=off ``` ...in its kernel commandline, but I believe this is no longer necessary as it is deactivated in the Debian version of the Linux kernel for ia64 IIC. HTH. Cheers, Frank
Re: Install problem
Hello Mike! On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 16:40 +1200, Mike Hosken wrote: > I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and have run > into > some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t boot. I get to grub > and > choose install, it starts to boot and then the system reboots. Choosing expert > mode causes the same issue. Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier > install cd and managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system > breaks > trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be kernel > parameters. Please provide us with links to the exact image that you tested. Some architectures are broken on certain images and "latest" is ambiguous in this context as some users refer to the snapshot folder while others point to the release version folders (although, there aren't releases in Debian Ports!). Also, boot the kernel in verbose mode (remove "quiet" from the GRUB command line) and post the kernel error message on the mailing list. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
Re: Install problem
Hi Mike, On 29.07.23 06:40, Mike Hosken wrote: Hi everyone, I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and have run into some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t boot. I get to grub and choose install, it starts to boot and then the system reboots. Choosing expert mode causes the same issue. Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier install cd and managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be kernel parameters. I have always blacklisted the "radeon" module for my rx2660s: ``` modprobe.blacklist=radeon ``` ...but that could require to use it over iLO MP exclusively, which is not too bad or too hard to do (via both telnet and serial). IIRC you should get the default configuration by pushing the button at the rear for a longer time (see e.g. [1] for details about its functionality) and then login over serial (9600 bps, 8n1) with "Admin:Admin". After configuring telnet access (or maybe it is configured per default already and uses DHCP) you can control it via the iLO MP network port, too. E.g. to power on the machine enter command menu (or mode?) via "cm", then enter `ps -on -nc`. Hit "Ctrl+B" to return to the main menu and enter "co" to get to the system console. "Ctrl+B" also returns from the system console, if you need to issue a hard reset (in command menu enter `rs -nc`) for example. My first rx2660 also still has: ``` hardened_usercopy=off ``` ...in its kernel commandline, but I believe this is no longer necessary as it is deactivated in the Debian version of the Linux kernel for ia64 IIC. HTH. Cheers, Frank
Re: install problem with debian linux on Itanium 2 rx2600 hp server
May be debian linux is not supported on rx2600 servers. On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 20:59, Kallol Biswas wrote: Hello, I tried to install debian linux on a hp rx2600 Itanium 2 server. The installation process hangs. The Linux image is uncompressed and then the initrd is loaded onto the system but after these steps the system hangs. I tried with hp debian linux Enablement image also. The initial menu is displayed but when a menu item is selected the linux image is uncompressed and then the initrd is loaded and the system hangs. Any help on this? Thanks, Kallol
Re: install problem with debian linux on Itanium 2 rx2600 hp server
On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 22:43, David Mosberger wrote: On 28 May 2004 21:28:29 -0700, Kallol Biswas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Kallol May be debian linux is not supported on rx2600 servers. It certainly is. We run it on may rx2600/zx6000. Are you sure the system hangs? Perhaps the console output goes to the wrong place? If you use serial console, try appending console=ttyS0,9600n8 to the boot command-line (without quotes). Also, if your system comes with an MP/ECI/Manageability card, please be sure to follow the documentation in the Linux Enablement Kit to select one, and only one, serial port for a serial console. Otherwise, there's a good chance you'll have firmware output up until the kernel loads, but won't see anything beyond the loading of kernel and ramdisk messages from elilo (it'll go to the other serial port). Alex
Re: install problem with debian linux on Itanium 2 rx2600 hp server
On 28 May 2004, Alex Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 22:43, David Mosberger wrote: On 28 May 2004 21:28:29 -0700, Kallol Biswas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Kallol May be debian linux is not supported on rx2600 servers. It certainly is. We run it on may rx2600/zx6000. Are you sure the system hangs? Perhaps the console output goes to the wrong place? If you use serial console, try appending console=ttyS0,9600n8 to the boot command-line (without quotes). Also, if your system comes with an MP/ECI/Manageability card, please be sure to follow the documentation in the Linux Enablement Kit to select one, and only one, serial port for a serial console. Otherwise, there's a good chance you'll have firmware output up until the kernel loads, but won't see anything beyond the loading of kernel and ramdisk messages from elilo (it'll go to the other serial port). Isn't there anything we can do in Linux to make this a bit less user-hostile? I know it's documented, but nevertheless I think every person who has tried to install Linux on these machines has got confused by it. -- Martin
Re: install problem with debian linux on Itanium 2 rx2600 hp server
Thanks for the info. I have got debian linux running on a rx2600. On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 21:43, David Mosberger wrote: On 28 May 2004 21:28:29 -0700, Kallol Biswas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Kallol May be debian linux is not supported on rx2600 servers. It certainly is. We run it on may rx2600/zx6000. Are you sure the system hangs? Perhaps the console output goes to the wrong place? If you use serial console, try appending console=ttyS0,9600n8 to the boot command-line (without quotes). --david