Re: Install problem

2023-08-11 Thread Frank Scheiner

On 07.08.23 00:39, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote:

[...]
I physically ejected the faulty PSU and the machine has been up for many
days now.


Well, now one PSU in my first rx2660 is playing dead, too. But the
system doesn't yet refuse to start. I removed it anyhow and replaced it
with one PSU from my DL385 G5 - same part number and OEM model for PSU.

Hence I assume you can put DL385 G5 (and also G2) PSUs on your watch
list, too. Though from checking on Ebay, it might be cheaper to just buy
a whole system (DL380 G5, DL385 G2/G5) with two PSUs instead of just the
PSU(s).

The problem is: you can't put your nose on the PSUs prior to buying them
to sniff if they're "toasty" or "fresh" (which is true for both options,
though).

Cheers,
Frank



Re: Install problem

2023-08-06 Thread Pedro Miguel Justo


On Aug 1, 2023, at 10:20, Pedro Miguel Justo  wrote:



On Aug 1, 2023, at 02:48, Frank Scheiner  wrote:



On 01.08.23 08:41, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote:
[...]
Oh dear… did I just jinx it?!
68BMC *3  0x2064C614CB020520 016F41080300 
POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT
 30 Jul 2023 07:44:11
67BMC *3  0x2064C614CB020510 016F40080300 
POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT
 30 Jul 2023 07:44:11

Hopefully not. What did you do (prior to that)?


The machine was on and running. When I came back it was off, red front panel 
light blinking and that message was present on the BMC. It turns back on OK and 
runs for an hour or so more at which time the same failure repeats. I might 
have to get on the market for new power supplies without the problem you were 
describing…

I physically ejected the faulty PSU and the machine has been up for many days 
now.



Cheers,
Frank



Re: Install problem

2023-08-01 Thread Pedro Miguel Justo


> On Aug 1, 2023, at 02:48, Frank Scheiner  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 01.08.23 08:41, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote:
>> [...]
>> Oh dear… did I just jinx it?!
>> 68BMC *3  0x2064C614CB020520 016F41080300 
>> POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT
>>   30 Jul 2023 07:44:11
>> 67BMC *3  0x2064C614CB020510 016F40080300 
>> POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT
>>   30 Jul 2023 07:44:11
> 
> Hopefully not. What did you do (prior to that)?
> 

The machine was on and running. When I came back it was off, red front panel 
light blinking and that message was present on the BMC. It turns back on OK and 
runs for an hour or so more at which time the same failure repeats. I might 
have to get on the market for new power supplies without the problem you were 
describing…


> Cheers,
> Frank



Re: Install problem

2023-08-01 Thread Pedro Miguel Justo


On Jul 29, 2023, at 21:57, Pedro Miguel Justo  wrote:



On Jul 29, 2023, at 13:38, Frank Scheiner  wrote:

Hi again,

just some other thing that came to my mind right now:

Don't leave your rx2660 in standby with mains connected over longer
times, because its PSUs will get quite hot otherwise and most likely age
faster than normal if not burn up over time. The DL380 G5 and DL385 G2
and G5 (at least mine, upgraded from a G2) all seem to have the same
problem.


Thanks Frank. I am most certainly going to check mine. Last year one of the two 
PSUs on my rx2660 died. I am not down to one. I’ve been actually browsing eBay 
for a replacement. This data will come in handy when picking a new one.


Oh dear… did I just jinx it?!


68BMC *3  0x2064C614CB020520 016F41080300 
POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT
  30 Jul 2023 07:44:11
67BMC *3  0x2064C614CB020510 016F40080300 
POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT
  30 Jul 2023 07:44:11




[1] states it is a design flaw. [2] mentions that there are newer PSU
revisions that might be OK in standby, so maybe you're lucky and have
one of those in yours already.

Cheers,
Frank

[1]:
https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/hp-proliant-dl380-g5-server-is-the-power-supply-really-broken/td-p/7001911

[2]:
https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/dl380-g5-power-supplies-overheat-when-plugged-in-but-off/td-p/3982566/page/3



Re: Install problem

2023-08-01 Thread Frank Scheiner



On 01.08.23 08:41, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote:

[...]
Oh dear… did I just jinx it?!


68    BMC     *3  0x2064C614CB020520 016F41080300 
POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT

                                                       30 Jul 2023 07:44:11
67    BMC     *3  0x2064C614CB020510 016F40080300 
POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT

                                                       30 Jul 2023 07:44:11


Hopefully not. What did you do (prior to that)?

Cheers,
Frank


Re: Install problem

2023-07-29 Thread Pedro Miguel Justo


> On Jul 29, 2023, at 13:38, Frank Scheiner  wrote:
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> just some other thing that came to my mind right now:
> 
> Don't leave your rx2660 in standby with mains connected over longer
> times, because its PSUs will get quite hot otherwise and most likely age
> faster than normal if not burn up over time. The DL380 G5 and DL385 G2
> and G5 (at least mine, upgraded from a G2) all seem to have the same
> problem.
> 

Thanks Frank. I am most certainly going to check mine. Last year one of the two 
PSUs on my rx2660 died. I am not down to one. I’ve been actually browsing eBay 
for a replacement. This data will come in handy when picking a new one.


> [1] states it is a design flaw. [2] mentions that there are newer PSU
> revisions that might be OK in standby, so maybe you're lucky and have
> one of those in yours already.
> 
> Cheers,
> Frank
> 
> [1]:
> https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/hp-proliant-dl380-g5-server-is-the-power-supply-really-broken/td-p/7001911
> 
> [2]:
> https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/dl380-g5-power-supplies-overheat-when-plugged-in-but-off/td-p/3982566/page/3
> 




Re: Install problem

2023-07-29 Thread Frank Scheiner

Hi again,

just some other thing that came to my mind right now:

Don't leave your rx2660 in standby with mains connected over longer
times, because its PSUs will get quite hot otherwise and most likely age
faster than normal if not burn up over time. The DL380 G5 and DL385 G2
and G5 (at least mine, upgraded from a G2) all seem to have the same
problem.

[1] states it is a design flaw. [2] mentions that there are newer PSU
revisions that might be OK in standby, so maybe you're lucky and have
one of those in yours already.

Cheers,
Frank

[1]:
https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/hp-proliant-dl380-g5-server-is-the-power-supply-really-broken/td-p/7001911

[2]:
https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/dl380-g5-power-supplies-overheat-when-plugged-in-but-off/td-p/3982566/page/3



Re: Install problem

2023-07-29 Thread Frank Scheiner

Hi Mike,

On 29.07.23 10:01, Mike Hosken wrote:

Hi Frank, Adrian and anyone else,

I've tried everything you suggested and had no luck unfortunately.

I removed the quiet from the boot options with your suggested changes
and got this output. Not being a kernel person but with google I
managed to find that Adrian has come across this exact issue and with
this kernel.

I therefore suspect that the issue is with the install cd. I did
notice an updated debian-installer with a later kernel available on
the ports cd image site. Is this issue fixed with
kernel-image-6.3.0-1-itanium-di 6.3.7-1 ia64


It is fixed with 6.3.0-0 (6.3.2 to be exact, see [this thread] for details).

[this thread]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ia64/2023/05/msg00010.html


and would it be possible
to get an updated iso produced ?


Just to be sure:

You managed to get a working installation with an older than the latest
installer ISO?

Would it then be possible to start anew and than just install a newer
kernel image from snapshot.debian.org before actually upgrading the
remaining OS, e.g. this one:

https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-ports/20230703T174302Z/pool-ia64/main/l/linux/linux-image-6.3.0-2-mckinley_6.3.11-1_ia64.deb

...or maybe even this one:

https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-ports/20230703T174302Z/pool-ia64/main/l/linux/linux-image-6.4.0-0-mckinley_6.4.1-1~exp1_ia64.deb

Cheers,
Frank



RE: Install problem

2023-07-29 Thread Mike Hosken
Hi Adrian,

It Was this one.

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/12.0/ia64/debian-12.0.0-ia64-NETINST-1.iso

Mike
-Original Message-
From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [mailto:glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de] 
Sent: Saturday, 29 July 2023 7:42 pm
To: Mike Hosken
Cc: debian-ia64@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Install problem

Hello Mike!

On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 16:40 +1200, Mike Hosken wrote:
> I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and have run 
> into
> some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t boot. I get to grub 
> and
> choose install, it starts to boot and then the system reboots. Choosing expert
> mode causes the same issue. Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier
> install cd and managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system 
> breaks
> trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be kernel 
> parameters. 

Please provide us with links to the exact image that you tested. Some 
architectures are
broken on certain images and "latest" is ambiguous in this context as some 
users refer
to the snapshot folder while others point to the release version folders 
(although, there
aren't releases in Debian Ports!).

Also, boot the kernel in verbose mode (remove "quiet" from the GRUB command 
line) and
post the kernel error message on the mailing list.

Adrian

-- 
 .''`.  John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
: :' :  Debian Developer
`. `'   Physicist
  `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546  0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913



RE: Install problem

2023-07-29 Thread Mike Hosken
Hi Frank, Adrian and anyone else,

I've tried everything you suggested and had no luck unfortunately.

I removed the quiet from the boot options with your suggested changes and got 
this output. Not being a kernel person but with google I managed to find that 
Adrian has come across this exact issue and with this kernel.   

I therefore suspect that the issue is with the install cd. I did notice an 
updated debian-installer with a later kernel available on the ports cd image 
site. Is this issue fixed with kernel-image-6.3.0-1-itanium-di 6.3.7-1 ia64 and 
would it be possible to get an updated iso produced ? 

[0.00] Linux version 6.1.0-9-itanium (debian-ker...@lists.debian.org) 
(gcc-12 (Debian 12.2.0-12) 12.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.40) #1 
SMP Debian 6.1.27-1 (2023-05-08)
[0.00] efi: EFI v2.00 by HP
[0.00] efi: SALsystab=0x3ee7a000 ACPI 2.0=0x3fde6000 ESI=0x3ee7b000 
SMBIOS=0x3ee7c000 HCDP=0x3fde4000
[   12.165278] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs...
[   12.169274] Entered OS MCA handler. PSP=2001fff21320 cpu=0 monarch=1
[   12.169274] 6All OS MCA slaves have reached rendezvous
[   12.169274] mlogbuf_finish: printing switched to urgent mode, MCA/INIT might 
be dodgy or fail.
[   12.169274] Delaying for 5 seconds... 

Thanks
Mike Hosken

-Original Message-
From: Frank Scheiner [mailto:frank.schei...@web.de] 
Sent: Saturday, 29 July 2023 6:13 pm
To: Mike Hosken; debian-ia64@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Install problem

Hi Mike,

On 29.07.23 06:40, Mike Hosken wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and
> have run into some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t
> boot. I get to grub and choose install, it starts to boot and then
> the system reboots. Choosing expert mode causes the same issue.
> Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier install cd and
> managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks
> trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be
> kernel parameters.

I have always blacklisted the "radeon" module for my rx2660s:

```
modprobe.blacklist=radeon
```

...but that could require to use it over iLO MP exclusively, which is 
not too bad or too hard to do (via both telnet and serial). IIRC you 
should get the default configuration by pushing the button at the rear 
for a longer time (see e.g. [1] for details about its functionality) and 
then login over serial (9600 bps, 8n1) with "Admin:Admin". After 
configuring telnet access (or maybe it is configured per default already 
and uses DHCP) you can control it via the iLO MP network port, too.

E.g. to power on the machine enter command menu (or mode?) via "cm", 
then enter `ps -on -nc`. Hit "Ctrl+B" to return to the main menu and 
enter "co" to get to the system console. "Ctrl+B" also returns from the 
system console, if you need to issue a hard reset (in command menu enter 
`rs -nc`) for example.

My first rx2660 also still has:

```
hardened_usercopy=off
```

...in its kernel commandline, but I believe this is no longer necessary 
as it is deactivated in the Debian version of the Linux kernel for ia64 IIC.

HTH.
Cheers,
Frank




Re: Install problem

2023-07-29 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Mike!

On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 16:40 +1200, Mike Hosken wrote:
> I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and have run 
> into
> some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t boot. I get to grub 
> and
> choose install, it starts to boot and then the system reboots. Choosing expert
> mode causes the same issue. Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier
> install cd and managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system 
> breaks
> trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be kernel 
> parameters. 

Please provide us with links to the exact image that you tested. Some 
architectures are
broken on certain images and "latest" is ambiguous in this context as some 
users refer
to the snapshot folder while others point to the release version folders 
(although, there
aren't releases in Debian Ports!).

Also, boot the kernel in verbose mode (remove "quiet" from the GRUB command 
line) and
post the kernel error message on the mailing list.

Adrian

-- 
 .''`.  John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
: :' :  Debian Developer
`. `'   Physicist
  `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546  0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913



Re: Install problem

2023-07-29 Thread Frank Scheiner

Hi Mike,

On 29.07.23 06:40, Mike Hosken wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and
have run into some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t
boot. I get to grub and choose install, it starts to boot and then
the system reboots. Choosing expert mode causes the same issue.
Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier install cd and
managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks
trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be
kernel parameters.


I have always blacklisted the "radeon" module for my rx2660s:

```
modprobe.blacklist=radeon
```

...but that could require to use it over iLO MP exclusively, which is 
not too bad or too hard to do (via both telnet and serial). IIRC you 
should get the default configuration by pushing the button at the rear 
for a longer time (see e.g. [1] for details about its functionality) and 
then login over serial (9600 bps, 8n1) with "Admin:Admin". After 
configuring telnet access (or maybe it is configured per default already 
and uses DHCP) you can control it via the iLO MP network port, too.


E.g. to power on the machine enter command menu (or mode?) via "cm", 
then enter `ps -on -nc`. Hit "Ctrl+B" to return to the main menu and 
enter "co" to get to the system console. "Ctrl+B" also returns from the 
system console, if you need to issue a hard reset (in command menu enter 
`rs -nc`) for example.


My first rx2660 also still has:

```
hardened_usercopy=off
```

...in its kernel commandline, but I believe this is no longer necessary 
as it is deactivated in the Debian version of the Linux kernel for ia64 IIC.


HTH.
Cheers,
Frank



Re: install problem with debian linux on Itanium 2 rx2600 hp server

2004-05-29 Thread Kallol Biswas
May be debian linux is not supported on rx2600 servers.

On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 20:59, Kallol Biswas wrote:
 Hello,
  I tried to install debian linux on a hp rx2600 Itanium 2 server.
 The installation process hangs. The Linux image is uncompressed and then
 the initrd is loaded onto the system but after these steps the system hangs. 
 I tried with hp debian linux Enablement image also. The initial menu is
 displayed but when a menu item is selected the linux image is
 uncompressed and then the initrd is loaded and the system hangs.
 
 Any help on this?
 
 Thanks,
 Kallol
 




Re: install problem with debian linux on Itanium 2 rx2600 hp server

2004-05-29 Thread Alex Williamson
On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 22:43, David Mosberger wrote:
  On 28 May 2004 21:28:29 -0700, Kallol Biswas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
   Kallol May be debian linux is not supported on rx2600 servers.
 
 It certainly is.  We run it on may rx2600/zx6000.  Are you sure the system
 hangs?  Perhaps the console output goes to the wrong place?  If you use
 serial console, try appending console=ttyS0,9600n8 to the boot command-line
 (without quotes).
 

   Also, if your system comes with an MP/ECI/Manageability card, please
be sure to follow the documentation in the Linux Enablement Kit to
select one, and only one, serial port for a serial console.  Otherwise,
there's a good chance you'll have firmware output up until the kernel
loads, but won't see anything beyond the loading of kernel and ramdisk
messages from elilo (it'll go to the other serial port).

Alex




Re: install problem with debian linux on Itanium 2 rx2600 hp server

2004-05-29 Thread Martin Pool
On 28 May 2004, Alex Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 22:43, David Mosberger wrote:
   On 28 May 2004 21:28:29 -0700, Kallol Biswas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  
Kallol May be debian linux is not supported on rx2600 servers.
  
  It certainly is.  We run it on may rx2600/zx6000.  Are you sure the system
  hangs?  Perhaps the console output goes to the wrong place?  If you use
  serial console, try appending console=ttyS0,9600n8 to the boot 
  command-line
  (without quotes).
  
 
Also, if your system comes with an MP/ECI/Manageability card, please
 be sure to follow the documentation in the Linux Enablement Kit to
 select one, and only one, serial port for a serial console.  Otherwise,
 there's a good chance you'll have firmware output up until the kernel
 loads, but won't see anything beyond the loading of kernel and ramdisk
 messages from elilo (it'll go to the other serial port).

Isn't there anything we can do in Linux to make this a bit less
user-hostile?  I know it's documented, but nevertheless I think every
person who has tried to install Linux on these machines has got
confused by it.

-- 
Martin




Re: install problem with debian linux on Itanium 2 rx2600 hp server

2004-05-29 Thread Kallol Biswas
Thanks for the info. I have got debian linux running on a rx2600.

On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 21:43, David Mosberger wrote:
  On 28 May 2004 21:28:29 -0700, Kallol Biswas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
   Kallol May be debian linux is not supported on rx2600 servers.
 
 It certainly is.  We run it on may rx2600/zx6000.  Are you sure the system
 hangs?  Perhaps the console output goes to the wrong place?  If you use
 serial console, try appending console=ttyS0,9600n8 to the boot command-line
 (without quotes).
 
   --david