Re: Newer KDEPIM for Jessie
On 05/12/2015 02:02 AM, Christian Hilberg wrote: Hi all, seeking for a less-painful-than-self-compile way to get KDEPIM 4.14.7 into Debian/Jessie (for much the same reasons as pointed out by the OP), I stumbled across http://kdebian.org/ppa/ While this repo seems to have all of the packages I'm after, I do not really know to make heads or tails of it. There site does not mention any maintainer. The owner of the domain hides behind some privacy service. There seems to be some connection to a live.ru account, but that does not necessarily mean anything. Other than being referred to from some blog posts, I did not find any information as to whether or not this PPA can be trusted. I for one do *not* trust, because of missing information about who's behind that PPA, but maybe there is some info about this site I missed? Anyway, the DSC files from that repo might be worth a look when trying to set up some trustworthy alternative to it, which would surely be of a great relief to Debian/Jessie KDEPIM users. Christian, this may help you: "KDE updated in Debian, here's how. In this guide we will see how to have KDE in Debian constantly updated thanks to third-party repositories KDEbian." http://media-opensource.blogspot.com/2014/09/kde-updated-in-debian-heres-how.html -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda14 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/555207dc.9000...@gmail.com
Re: Newer KDEPIM for Jessie
On 05/12/2015 07:34 AM, Christian Hilberg wrote: Hi Jimmy, Am Dienstag 12 Mai 2015, 07:02:04 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: On 05/12/2015 02:02 AM, Christian Hilberg wrote: Hi all, seeking for a less-painful-than-self-compile way to get KDEPIM 4.14.7 into Debian/Jessie (for much the same reasons as pointed out by the OP), I stumbled across http://kdebian.org/ppa/ Christian, this may help you: "KDE updated in Debian, here's how. In this guide we will see how to have KDE in Debian constantly updated thanks to third-party repositories KDEbian." http://media-opensource.blogspot.com/2014/09/kde-updated-in-deb ian-heres-how.html Thanks for the hint. This is one of the above-mentioned blogs linking to http://kdebian.org/. I'm still somewhat reluctant to use this repo, for no other reason than the creator of the PPA hiding. Undoubtedly, there may be good reasons to do so. But it gives me a hard time trusting in it. Sure, I can always read the sources, as has been suggested in another reply. :-) I did not do that for the packages I've got from Debian, because the fact that they do not even try to hide who they are makes me feel I can trust them. This is not the case for http://kdebian.org/. However, thanks dear Debian folks, thanks dear Debian community. You're great. Christian this is what I get after running the upgrade: jimmy# upgrade-system 1) Updating package lists: I: Package lists updated. 2) Checking for upgradable packages: I: Installing upgradable packages... Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libkactivities-models1 libnepomukcore4 libokularcore5 libparted-fs-resize0 libqtruby4shared2 libsmokekdecore4-3 libsmokekdeui4-3 libsmokekfile3 libsmokekhtml3 libsmokekio3 libsmokeknewstuff2-3 libsmokeknewstuff3-3 libsmokekparts3 libsmokektexteditor3 libsmokekutils3 libsmokeplasma3 libsmokeqtopengl4-3 nepomuk-core-data plasma-scriptengine-ruby ruby-kde4 ruby-plasma ruby-qt4 ruby-qt4-webkit Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. Done The following packages will be REMOVED: libmarblewidget19* libnepomuk4* libnepomukquery4a* libnepomukutils4* The following NEW packages will be installed: baloo-utils baloo4 libakonadi-socialutils4 libatasmart-bin libjs-underscore libkfbapi1 libmarblewidget20 libmygpo-qt1 libnatspec0 libokularcore6 libqtcurve-utils1 libqzeitgeist1 The following packages will be upgraded: akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server amarok amarok-common amarok-utils ark dolphin freespacenotifier gtk2-engines-qtcurve gwenview kate-data katepart kcalc kde-base-artwork kde-baseapps kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-plasma-desktop kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-style-oxygen kde-style-qtcurve kde-wallpapers kde-wallpapers-default kde-window-manager kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kde-workspace-randr kdegames-card-data kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-runtime kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdf kdm kdoctools kfind kget khelpcenter4 kinfocenter kio-audiocd klipper kmenuedit kmix konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole konversation konversation-data kpartsplugin kpat ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog ktorrent ktorrent-data kwin-style-crystal kwin-style-qtcurve kwrite libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadi-notes4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libastro1 libbaloocore4 libbaloofiles4 libbalooqueryparser4 libbaloowidgets4 libbalooxapian4 libdbusmenu-qt2 libgpgme++2 libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2 libkatepartinterfaces4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkcompactdisc4 libkdcraw-data libkdcraw23 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4abi2 libkdecore5 libkdegames6abi1 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkexiv2-11 libkexiv2-data libkfile4 libkfilemetadata4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkimap4 libkio5 libkipi-data libkipi11 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkonq-common libkonq5-templates libkonq5abi1 libkonqsidebarplugin4a libkparts4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4 libkunitconversion4 libkutils4 libkwineffects1abi5 libkwinglesutils1 libkwinglutils1abi2 libkworkspace4abi2 libkxmlrpcclient4 libmailtransport4 libmicroblog4 libphonon4 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4abi4 libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libqca2 libqgpgme1 libqmobipocket1 libsoli
Re: So I have a Plasma 5 desktop!
On 07/12/2015 06:12 AM, Michael Schuerig wrote: And I'm pretty sure that everything plasma5 haven't landed in unstable yet, but if the issues you have mentioned are the biggest ones around, I'm so far pretty happy about the state of things. I'm waiting for some things I see missing before I upgrade "plasma-desktop". What I see missing are "showdesktop and "klipper", I've been using them for many years and would hate to loose them. Also I know once I remove a KDE-4 package there is no looking back and you can loose the functions of your desktop. Once I find my missing packages I will be extremely happy! So far so good.. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE 5.3.2 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55a31d3f.30...@gmail.com
Re: So I have a Plasma 5 desktop!
On 07/12/2015 09:17 PM, Michael Schuerig wrote: On Sunday 12 July 2015 19:06:55 Jimmy Johnson wrote: I'm waiting for some things I see missing before I upgrade "plasma-desktop". What I see missing are "showdesktop and "klipper", I've been using them for many years and would hate to loose them. Also I know once I remove a KDE-4 package there is no looking back and you can loose the functions of your desktop. Once I find my missing packages I will be extremely happy! So far so good.. Klipper is there already. "Showdesktop"? A widget to hide all windows and show the desktop underneath? That's there, too. Michael, I'm not seeing what you are seeing..I'm not seeing showdesktop at all..and klipper is version KDE-4 and if I install plasma-desktop KDE-4 klipper will be gone with no replacement.. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE 5.3.2 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55a34df7.6060...@gmail.com
SDDM lost display monitor
I use the Nvidia driver and I moved from KDM to SDDM and lost the display monitor after login, I got a bright colored out of focus desktop and then the display signal was gone. I installed KDE LightDM and all is well. Any idea what could have happened to cause the display to be lost? -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE 5.3.2 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda14 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55ac743f.50...@gmail.com
Re: help, lost the tops of windows in KDE 4.X
On 07/19/2015 07:37 PM, Arthur Marsh wrote: Arthur Marsh wrote on 20/07/15 11:25: Hi, I've lost the tops of windows and hence the ability to move them, and also the ability to switch tasks with alt-tab on my other machine and wonder where I should go looking to fix this. Downgrading kde-window-manager to 4:4.11.13-2 fixed things for me. I didn't want to go up to KDE 5 just yet. +1 and thank you for posting the fix. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE 5.3.2 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda14 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55ac74da.7030...@gmail.com
Re: Where are the KDE "Standard shortcuts" settings stored?
On 07/23/2015 11:29 AM, Alan Ezust wrote: I have a weird problem with KDE Plasma right now. I'm using kubuntu vivid. sorry if I need to post to a kubuntu form and not here. KDE programs crash or do not work properly if i use one particular login, but I can not reproduce these issues with a newly created user and KDE settings. I first cleared a lot of stuff out of ~/.kde/share/config including plasma*. Later, I tried renaming the .kde directory to something else. Still the problem persists. Here are the symptoms. I run Qt Assistant and hit Ctrl+F: I get an error dialog: Ambiguous Key Assignment exists. Please configure your shortcuts. I go to "System Settings - Shortcuts" I try to redefine Ctrl-F and the shortcut configure window crashes. ALso, I invoke certain shortcuts from Konsole that used to work (Ctr+PgUp and Ctrl+PgDn) and now they cause the Konsole window to crash. These symptoms happened after a recent upgrade to KDE5. Alan, Debian testing and unstable does not yet have a complete plasma5 desktop, so I can't help you with that. Arch Linux seems to be the goto place for help with plasma5, you may want to go here and look at the section on trouble shooting: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDE As far as the Konsole goes, that should be 'shift+page up/down', I hope that helps. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian - Wheezy - KDE 4.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda22 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55b13fb9.2000...@gmail.com
Re: No more network manager icon since upgrade.
On 07/23/2015 10:21 AM, Erwan David wrote: Le 23/07/2015 19:18, Erwan David a écrit : My plasma-nm package has just been upgraded : 0.9.3.6-1+b1 -> 4:5.3.2-1 result : no more network manager icon, nomare way to select network. What should I do ? Sorry : I use testing. Erwan, until we have a complete plasma5 desktop you may want to install wicd-gtk, I hope that helps. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian - Wheezy - KDE 4.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda22 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55b14152.70...@gmail.com
Re: SDDM lost display monitor
On 07/19/2015 09:08 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: I use the Nvidia driver and I moved from KDM to SDDM and lost the display monitor after login, I got a bright colored out of focus desktop and then the display signal was gone. I installed KDE LightDM and all is well. Any idea what could have happened to cause the display to be lost? I've been studding this and got plasma 5 to kind of work, it seems the nvidia driver will not work using plasma 5 with opengl or xrender, why I have no idea, do you? Nvidia works with Sid and kde 4. Plasma 5 works with the nouveau driver but only in xrender, crashes using opengl. Also I have two monitors and I'm unable to save my monitor settings, having to setup monitors on each boot. I'm willing to try different ideas to fix these problems if there is a developer working on this with some ideas for me to try? missing widgets that I use are quick-launch and plasma-widget-yawp, also while kdiskfree still works, kwikdisk no longer works. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian - Sid - KDE Plasma 5.3.2 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55b6ab95.7000...@gmail.com
Re: SDDM lost display monitor
On 07/27/2015 03:07 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 07/19/2015 09:08 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: I use the Nvidia driver and I moved from KDM to SDDM and lost the display monitor after login, I got a bright colored out of focus desktop and then the display signal was gone. I installed KDE LightDM and all is well. Any idea what could have happened to cause the display to be lost? I've been studding this and got plasma 5 to kind of work, it seems the nvidia driver will not work using plasma 5 with opengl or xrender, why I have no idea, do you? Nvidia works with Sid and kde 4. Plasma 5 works with the nouveau driver but only in xrender, crashes using opengl. Also I have two monitors and I'm unable to save my monitor settings, having to setup monitors on each boot. I'm willing to try different ideas to fix these problems if there is a developer working on this with some ideas for me to try? missing widgets that I use are quick-launch and plasma-widget-yawp, also while kdiskfree still works, kwikdisk no longer works. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE-Plasma 5.3.2 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda14 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55b9d766.4020...@gmail.com
Re: Sid kde-plasma-desktop upgrade
On 07/30/2015 12:52 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Hello, Plasma 5, I hit the upgrade button on Sid's kde-plasma-desktop tonight and it seems smoother than Siduction! For the most part I had no problems with the upgrade, the nvidia driver does not work with plasma 5 and ?klipper will not copy/paste into iceweasel?, I'm using the yahoo weather widget, it's the only widget I have downloaded so far. I'm sure plenty of people will be willing to make this the best KDE desktop there is. My thanks and best wishes to all who have made Plasma 5 possible. Plasma 5 photo: https://flic.kr/p/wFfKs4 -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE-Plasma 5.3.2 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda14 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55b9d9ab.3060...@gmail.com
Re: plasma-desktop should enter testing today once the mirrors have caught up
On 07/31/2015 07:30 AM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: Exactly what the subject says: plasma-desktop has migrated to testing, it will be there as soon as the mirrors are synced. It is highly recommended for those in testing to upgrade today, although you might need to wait your mirror. Also note that the gcc5 transition has started, that means we are not going to upload new stuff in some days (possible a week) to facilitate this **huge** transition. We really hope you enjoy the packages. If you filed a bug and found that it is not there anymore after updating the packages then please follow it and state this. This is really **highly** appreciated. Once again, sorry for the inconveniences! Thanks for the update.. I 'apt-get update && apt-get install --reinstall kde-plasma-desktop' with no problems. On reboot the display crashed as expected, so I removed the nvidia driver and installed nouveau(I use SMXI for this) and it's working. If you would like me to test something for you let me know. Thanks again to all who have worked to make plasma 5 possible. :) -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - KDE-Plasma-Desktop 5.3.2 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55bbd432.6000...@gmail.com
Re: Several problems
On 07/31/2015 05:10 PM, Carlos Kosloff wrote: Hallo everybody, This is my first time posting on this list. We have gone through a very painful upgrade in stretch and we are still ironing out many problems. So I will start tackling them one at a time, and hope that the rest will be resolved over time. The first one will be systemsettings. I get kicked out of the desktop and prompted for a password but...systemsettings does not have a power management applet any more, so I cannot configure. Related to that, my beloved ktux screensaver is installed but not accessible so I cannot set it up. There is another problem: System Settings does not launch from the Klauncher, it is accessible but not from there. http://i.imgur.com/DpDF8cP.png There are more problems but that should be enough for now. Carlos, I have done 5 installs of kde-plasma-desktop and the best thing I can tell you to do is to install 'synaptic' and check the settings in synaptic and make sure you have checked install recommends and install the highest version and then update and install/reinstall kde-plasma-desktop, call me if you need more help. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD 64 - EXT4 at sda12 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55bc2314.9080...@gmail.com
Re: sddm versus kdm
On 08/02/2015 12:18 PM, Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2015-08-02, Gary Dale wrote: For a KDE user, what do people think are the strengths and weaknesses of the two managers? KDM is dead upstream, SDDM is alive. I think that's the simplest way of summing it up. /Sune Sune that's the second time you have posted that, I don't view it as being helpful. It seems to me that KDM is only missing a systemsetting module/plugin in order to work properly with plasma 5. -- Jimmy Johnson Ubuntu 14.04 - KDE 4.13.3 - EXT4 at sda5 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55be8239.8030...@gmail.com
Re: sddm versus kdm
On 08/02/2015 02:12 PM, David Baron wrote: On Sunday 02 August 2015 13:48:57 Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 08/02/2015 12:18 PM, Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2015-08-02, Gary Dale wrote: For a KDE user, what do people think are the strengths and weaknesses of the two managers? KDM is dead upstream, SDDM is alive. I think that's the simplest way of summing it up. /Sune Sune that's the second time you have posted that, I don't view it as being helpful. It seems to me that KDM is only missing a systemsetting module/plugin in order to work properly with plasma 5. and it works just fine without one It would be a big plus if we could still change themes & settings, outside of systemsettings I know no other way to do that. -- Jimmy Johnson Ubuntu 14.04 - KDE 4.13.3 - EXT4 at sda5 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55be8946.6030...@gmail.com
Re: Plasma desktop doesn't load
On 08/04/2015 12:20 PM, Facundo Aguilera wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Ottmar Deibert wrote: Am Dienstag, 4. August 2015, 19:08:15 schrieb Valerio Passini: After today upgrade with breeze packages, my plasma desktop is unable to fully load. It is locked near complete loading but it never completes i.e. the blue bar is stuck near 90%. I have already tried to log in with a clean user, without a .kde folder, but the problem is still there. Can you help me to fix this? Valerio Breeze (SID) is the problem. I have downgradet to the version in testing and everything works fine. This bug was reported, see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794573. Facundo I have 3 Sid systems down with this bug, I'm not going to do the work-around, so please inform when it is fixed in Sid and I will continue upgrades at that time. And thank you for the bug report. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - KDE-Plasma-Desktop 5.3.2 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263 -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - KDE-Plasma-Desktop 5.3.2 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c11b61.2020...@gmail.com
Re: SDDM lost display monitor
On 08/07/2015 03:10 PM, Facundo Aguilera wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Facundo Aguilera wrote: Problems with nvidia too. I've been studding this and got plasma 5 to kind of work, it seems the nvidia driver will not work using plasma 5 with opengl or xrender, why I have no idea, do you? Nvidia works with Sid and kde 4. Plasma 5 works with the nouveau driver but only in xrender, crashes using opengl. Also I have two monitors and I'm unable to save my monitor settings, having to setup monitors on each boot. I'm willing to try different ideas to fix these problems if there is a developer working on this with some ideas for me to try? sddm works here with the nvidia driver, but also changes the screen resolution (uses 1024x768 instead of 1440x900) and is very slow to start. With kdm the screen resolution is not changed and startup speed is normal. Plasma 5 also starts with the 1024x768 resolution. It is working with the nvidia driver by changing to xrender in the kwinrc file. OpenGL 2.0 is unstable and OpenGL 3.1 is very slow (for example, it takes about 5 min to show the systemsettings window). I'm also unable so save the monitor resolution. Testing a little more, I found that nvidia driver (legacy-304xx) is working with the EGL OpenGL interface. GLX is not working with plasma 5. The other problems disappeared, I don't know why... I also use the nvidia-304 driver. For a few days now "plasma-desktop" has NOT been installable, it can currently be installed.."kde-plasma-desktop" is NOT currently installable. sda15=Sid, kdm, nvidia, xfce..no problems. sda14=Sid, sddm, nvidia, plasma-desktop..black screen after login. sda13=Sid, sddm, nouveau, plasma-desktop..black screen after login. All systems are fully up-to-date with no orphan packages. I wish the best to KDE-Development they have taken on an enormous project and I will assist anyway I can, just ask. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian - Sid - Xfce 4.12 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c5e380.6000...@gmail.com
I would love to see this error go away..
Hello, In testing I would love to see this error go away: "KDEInit could not launch 'kpat': Could not open library '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kpat'. Cannot load library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kpat: (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kpat.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)" Thank you, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - Plasma-Desktop 5.3.2 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: I would love to see this error go away..
On 08/12/2015 03:28 PM, Diederik de Haas wrote: On Wednesday 12 August 2015 15:11:03 Jimmy Johnson wrote: "KDEInit could not launch 'kpat': If you do /usr/games/kpat it'll probably work. It's caused by bug #794419 Thank you so much Diederik, I added to my app menu and it worked! -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - KDE-Plasma-Desktop 5.3.2 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: SDDM lost display monitor
On 08/14/2015 10:50 AM, Facundo Aguilera wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Facundo Aguilera wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Facundo Aguilera wrote: Problems with nvidia too. I've been studding this and got plasma 5 to kind of work, it seems the nvidia driver will not work using plasma 5 with opengl or xrender, why I have no idea, do you? Nvidia works with Sid and kde 4. Plasma 5 works with the nouveau driver but only in xrender, crashes using opengl. Also I have two monitors and I'm unable to save my monitor settings, having to setup monitors on each boot. I'm willing to try different ideas to fix these problems if there is a developer working on this with some ideas for me to try? sddm works here with the nvidia driver, but also changes the screen resolution (uses 1024x768 instead of 1440x900) and is very slow to start. With kdm the screen resolution is not changed and startup speed is normal. Plasma 5 also starts with the 1024x768 resolution. It is working with the nvidia driver by changing to xrender in the kwinrc file. OpenGL 2.0 is unstable and OpenGL 3.1 is very slow (for example, it takes about 5 min to show the systemsettings window). I'm also unable so save the monitor resolution. Testing a little more, I found that nvidia driver (legacy-304xx) is working with the EGL OpenGL interface. GLX is not working with plasma 5. The other problems disappeared, I don't know why... Obviously, this conclusion was a mistake. I found the bug related to my problem and a workaround [1]. This problem will be present in all nvidia304 users. [1] kwin_x11 does not paint windows, uses 100% CPU in OpenGL mode, under NVidia Legacy driver 304, GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343773 Mine is a GeForce 6200 and nvidia-304-driver is still not working, still looses signal after login, using nouveau-driver with xrender still works. The good news is after 2 weeks plasma-workspace is now installable and working, dolphin is not installable and konqueror is only working with file-size-view, in other words plasma-desktop is not yet complete, but it is good to be able to login again and run synaptic and install what I can, my thanks to those who made that possible. If your still holding old packages, you should dist-upgrade..just my .02 cents worth.. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE-Plasma 5.3.2 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda14 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Plasma 5 doesn't start after update on Stretch
On 08/19/2015 06:16 AM, Francesco De Vita wrote: Hello list! I'm on Debian Stretch and today, after an update, Plasma 5 doesn't start anymore. These are the packages updated this morning: $ cat /var/log/apt/history.log ... Start-Date: 2015-08-19 09:55:01 Upgrade: libijs-0.35:amd64 (0.35-10, 0.35-11), colord-data:amd64 (1.2.1-1, 1.2.11-1), libkf5itemviews-data:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), libkf5networkmanagerqt6:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), libkf5configgui5:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), libcolorhug2:amd64 (1.2.1-1+b2, 1.2.11-1), libyaml-tiny-perl:amd64 (1.67-1, 1.69-1), libkdecorations2private5:amd64 (5.3.2-1, 5.3.2-2), libkf5config-data:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), libkdecorations2-5:amd64 (5.3.2-1, 5.3.2-2), libkf5configcore5:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), libcolord2:amd64 (1.2.1-1+b2, 1.2.11-1), libkf5itemviews5:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), colord:amd64 (1.2.1-1+b2, 1.2.11-1), libkf5modemmanagerqt6:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), libkf5guiaddons5:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1) End-Date: 2015-08-19 09:55:09 ... First of all, sddm doesn't show at each reboot and when it doesn't I have to restart it (# service sddm restart), it is the first time I see it behaving like this. When I successfully log in I see the splash screen of Plasma 5 but the progress bar gets stuck near the end and then nothing happens. I thought it could be a problem with some configuration files so I created a new user in order to have a clean home dir and I tried to login with it, but unfortunately the problem reappeared. Also I tested the login using lightdm instead of sddm, but nothing changed. These tests lead me to think that this issue is related to the packages updated today. Do you have any suggestions to further investigate this problem? Is there someone else who experienced the same issue? Please add me in CC if you reply, thank you. Best regards Francesco I downloaded libkdecorations2-5_5.3.2-1_amd64.deb and libkdecorations2private5_5.3.2-1_amd64.deb from https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/debian/pool/main/k/kdecoration/ to my /home/jimmy and installed them one at a time using 'dpkg i libkdecorations2-5_5.3.2-1_amd64.deb' and 'dpkg i libkdecorations2private5_5.3.2-1_amd64.deb' and was able to downgrade with no problems, all other packages have been upgraded, rebooting and login with no problem. I hope this helps anyone who got hit by the bug. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD 64 - EXT4 at sda12 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Plasma 5 doesn't start after update on Stretch
On 08/19/2015 07:50 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 08/19/2015 06:16 AM, Francesco De Vita wrote: Hello list! I'm on Debian Stretch and today, after an update, Plasma 5 doesn't start anymore. These are the packages updated this morning: $ cat /var/log/apt/history.log ... Start-Date: 2015-08-19 09:55:01 Upgrade: libijs-0.35:amd64 (0.35-10, 0.35-11), colord-data:amd64 (1.2.1-1, 1.2.11-1), libkf5itemviews-data:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), libkf5networkmanagerqt6:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), libkf5configgui5:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), libcolorhug2:amd64 (1.2.1-1+b2, 1.2.11-1), libyaml-tiny-perl:amd64 (1.67-1, 1.69-1), libkdecorations2private5:amd64 (5.3.2-1, 5.3.2-2), libkf5config-data:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), libkdecorations2-5:amd64 (5.3.2-1, 5.3.2-2), libkf5configcore5:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), libcolord2:amd64 (1.2.1-1+b2, 1.2.11-1), libkf5itemviews5:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), colord:amd64 (1.2.1-1+b2, 1.2.11-1), libkf5modemmanagerqt6:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1), libkf5guiaddons5:amd64 (5.12.0-1, 5.13.0-1) End-Date: 2015-08-19 09:55:09 ... First of all, sddm doesn't show at each reboot and when it doesn't I have to restart it (# service sddm restart), it is the first time I see it behaving like this. When I successfully log in I see the splash screen of Plasma 5 but the progress bar gets stuck near the end and then nothing happens. I thought it could be a problem with some configuration files so I created a new user in order to have a clean home dir and I tried to login with it, but unfortunately the problem reappeared. Also I tested the login using lightdm instead of sddm, but nothing changed. These tests lead me to think that this issue is related to the packages updated today. Do you have any suggestions to further investigate this problem? Is there someone else who experienced the same issue? Please add me in CC if you reply, thank you. Best regards Francesco I downloaded libkdecorations2-5_5.3.2-1_amd64.deb and libkdecorations2private5_5.3.2-1_amd64.deb from https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/debian/pool/main/k/kdecoration/ to my /home/jimmy and installed them one at a time using 'dpkg i libkdecorations2-5_5.3.2-1_amd64.deb' and 'dpkg i libkdecorations2private5_5.3.2-1_amd64.deb' and was able to downgrade with no problems, all other packages have been upgraded, rebooting and login with no problem. I hope this helps anyone who got hit by the bug. Sorry, that should be 'dpkg -i' -- Jimmy Johnson Debian - Sid - Xfce 4.12 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: After upgrade: Strange behavior of plasmashell
On 08/15/2015 04:21 PM, Josep Febrer wrote: Did you upgrade libkf5windowsystem5 to 5.13?, if yes that's the reason, because this package is missing these two files: usr/lib/*/qt5/plugins/kf5/org.kde.kwindowsystem.platforms/KF5WindowSystemWaylandPlugin.so usr/lib/*/qt5/plugins/kf5/org.kde.kwindowsystem.platforms/KF5WindowSystemX11Plugin.so In the meantime, you can downgrade libkf5windowsystem5 and libkf5windowsystem- data to 5.12 and it should solve your troubles. Kwindowsystem* can know be safely upgraded with new version 5.13.0-2, I've tested this. :) -- Jimmy Johnson Debian - Sid - Xfce 4.12 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Plasma 5 won"t starting
On 08/21/2015 01:36 AM, അഖിൽ കൃഷ്ണൻ എസ്. wrote: I'm in Debian Sid with KDE5. But after a recent update done 2 weeks before, KDE wont getting started. Only the mouse pointer is shown after login. I thinks (not sure) something happened to KWin. Any troubleshooting willbe highly appreciated. Regards, Akhilan Off: Eventhough KDM starts up the Icons & Style shown in Login manager is Gnome Style. A problem in packages libkf5windowsystem* was fixed two days ago. What you post sounds like you need to install/upgrade package 'plasma-desktop'. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian - Sid - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Plasma does not load after login
On 08/21/2015 07:35 AM, Richard Barmann wrote: Is there a way to go back to 14.xx version? I cannot run 15,04 as plasma stops. Dick Barmann I checked this in synaptic and yes you can go-back but you need to add the Jessie/stable repos to do it and install 'kde-plasma-desktop', it's going to remove what plasma-5 packages you have installed and install kde-4. 'kde-plasma-desktop' is broken in both testing and unstable, but some of us like playing with broken toys. :) -- Jimmy Johnson Debian - Sid - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Plasma 5 won"t starting
On 08/24/2015 11:44 AM, akhilkrishnans. wrote: 2015-08-22 9:35 GMT+05:30 Jimmy Johnson mailto:field.engin...@gmail.com>>: A problem in packages libkf5windowsystem* was fixed two days ago. What you post sounds like you need to install/upgrade package 'plasma-desktop'. Updated and everything works fine except Dolphin, shows some 'Windows Server' like menus. No 'Plasma-Style' graphics there. And still KDM Login page have Gnome like Watchdial & Pointer. In Sid/Unstable kde-plasma-desktop can be installed now and should complete your kde setup, also task-kde-desktop can be installed, it includes kde-standard, kde-plasma-desktop and plasma-desktop. All of the above is subject to change in the blink of an eye. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE-Plasma 5.3.2 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Plasma past G++ transition
On 09/02/2015 01:46 AM, Luc Castermans wrote: this is very nice news! However I tried to make fresh install from Testing last weekend, and then get many dependency conflicts as soon as I issue a "aptitide install kde-full". In summary: I installed a fresh Testing (base system), then do "aptitude install kde-full". Should I add unstable to sources.list, then do "aptitude install -t sid kde-full", or even from experimental? Regards Luc Luc you could try install task-kde-desktop or install kde-plasma-desktop, thats in testing. In Sid, bits are still broken like not being able to install Gimp and/or you can't do a dist-upgrade but you can do an aptitude safe-upgrade and that is what I recommend for both testing and unstable. -- Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda10 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Plasma past G++ transition
On 09/03/2015 09:20 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2015, 05:37:13 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: On 09/02/2015 01:46 AM, Luc Castermans wrote: this is very nice news! However I tried to make fresh install from Testing last weekend, and then get many dependency conflicts as soon as I issue a "aptitide install kde-full". In summary: I installed a fresh Testing (base system), then do "aptitude install kde-full". Should I add unstable to sources.list, then do "aptitude install -t sid kde-full", or even from experimental? Luc you could try install task-kde-desktop or install kde-plasma-desktop, thats in testing. In Sid, bits are still broken like not being able to install Gimp and/or you can't do a dist-upgrade but you can do an aptitude safe-upgrade and that is what I recommend for both testing and unstable. Yes you can. Well at least I could. Calligra (including Krita) and Digikam are not there yet. Amarok, KMyMoney, kde-full all there and working. Martin that is all relative to what packages you are holding. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian - Wheezy - KDE 4.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Plasma past G++ transition
On 09/03/2015 09:20 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Luc you could try install task-kde-desktop or install kde-plasma-desktop, thats in testing. In Sid, bits are still broken like not being able to install Gimp and/or you can't do a dist-upgrade but you can do an aptitude safe-upgrade and that is what I recommend for both testing and unstable. Yes you can. Well at least I could. Calligra (including Krita) and Digikam are not there yet. Amarok, KMyMoney, kde-full all there and working. Be prepared that you may have to do the dist-upgrade in several steps, and possibly partly from a tty, cause I had to. Martin you do know that 'aptitude safe-upgrade' adds and removes packages as needed, don't you? If you are not comfortable with this, wait and install some lxde or other desktop for the time being. If you can. Been using Debian for more than 20 yrs. I've seen many systems break and I fix them all, yes, I'm comfortable, thanks to Debian and my study of package management. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian - Wheezy - KDE 4.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Gimp
I have 3 Sid systems 2 had gimp installed and one didn't, I was able to get a full upgrade on the one without gimp and then install gimp. On the systems with gimp I was not able to get a full upgrade, so I removed gimp and then did a full upgrade and then I was able to reinstall gimp. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE-Plasma 5.4.0 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263
Dual monitor placement settings.
For the first time in Sid since plasma 5 my monitors are being place where I want them at startup. Thank you, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE-Plasma 5.4.0 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Gimp
On 09/07/2015 03:40 AM, MERLIN Philippe wrote:
Le lundi 7 septembre 2015, 02:29:31 Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
> I have 3 Sid systems 2 had gimp installed and one didn't, I was able to
> get a full upgrade on the one without gimp and then install gimp.
>
> On the systems with gimp I was not able to get a full upgrade, so I
> removed gimp and then did a full upgrade and then I was able to
> reinstall gimp.
Thank you for the information, it is very interesting and surprising, it
would be instructive to explain the whys and wherefores. Thus Gimp
deleted one time can be reinstalled after the big update.
It would be interesting to know if other packages can follow the same
method, I think of Filezilla, Digikam...
Philippe Merlin
Hi,
Filezilla is installable on my system, while digikam is not.
# aptitude install Digikam
The following NEW packages will be installed:
digikam digikam-data{a} digikam-private-libs{a} enblend{a} enfuse{a}
ffmpegthumbs{a} freeglut3{a} hugin{a}
hugin-data{a} hugin-tools{a} kipi-plugins{a} kipi-plugins-common{a}
libarchive-zip-perl{a} libastro1{a}
libboost-filesystem1.55.0{a} libboost-filesystem1.58.0{a}
libboost-system1.55.0{a} libgsl0ldbl{a} libgtkglext1{a}
libhdf5-8{a} libid3tag0{a} libimage-exiftool-perl{a}
libkdcraw-data{a} libkdcraw23{a} libksane-data{a} libksane0{a}
liblensfun-data{a} liblensfun0{a} libmarblewidget19{a}
libopencv-calib3d2.4{a} libopencv-contrib2.4{a}
libopencv-core2.4{a} libopencv-features2d2.4{a} libopencv-flann2.4{a}
libopencv-highgui2.4{a}
libopencv-imgproc2.4{a} libopencv-legacy2.4{a} libopencv-ml2.4{a}
libopencv-objdetect2.4{a} libopencv-video2.4{a}
libpangox-1.0-0{a} libpgf6{a} libqextserialport1{a}
libqtglib-2.0-0{a} libqtgstreamer-1.0-0{a}
libqtgstreamerutils-1.0-0{a} libqtlocation1{a} libquazip1{a}
libraw10{a} libshp2{a} libsqlite0{a} libtbb2{a}
libvigraimpex4{a} libwxbase3.0-0v5{a} libwxgtk3.0-0v5{a}
marble-data{a} marble-plugins{a} minidlna{a}
opencv-data{a}
0 packages upgraded, 59 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 77.9 MB of archives. After unpacking 263 MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libstdc++6 : Breaks: digikam-private-libs (<= 4:4.4.0-1.1+b2) but
4:4.4.0-1.1+b2 is to be installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Keep the following packages at their current version:
1) digikam [Not Installed]
2) digikam-private-libs [Not Installed]
3) kipi-plugins [Not Installed]
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
--
Jimmy Johnson
Debian Sid - KDE-Plasma 5.4.0 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda13
Registered Linux User #380263
kwikdisk
kwikdisk is now restored to the system tray in Sid. yay! Thank you, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - KDE-Plasma-Desktop 5.4.0 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Dolphin request to run as root
On 09/14/2015 12:05 AM, Daniel Schröter wrote: Hello, I'm running Dolphin in version 4:15.04.3-1 Since upgrade to plasma 5: If I start Dolphin with the icon I get a message for kdesu requesting root privileges. (If I click "ignore" it runs fine). If I start Dolphin from the konsole it doesn't request root privileges. I would open the menu(right click the menu start button) with 'edit applications'/menu edit and check to see what command is being used and also check to see that 'run as different user' is not checked. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian - Wheezy - KDE 4.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Dolphin request to run as root
On 09/14/2015 04:52 AM, Daniel Schröter wrote: On 09/14/2015 10:57 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: I would open the menu(right click the menu start button) with 'edit applications'/menu edit and check to see what command is being used I can't edit the icons. I can not see the command. Maybe I there is one packages missing. BUT I saw that there is a second icon available for dolphin and with this one I doesn't get the message :-D Thanks for this hint! Did you find the package? It's 'kmenuedit', it's a required package, but I'm not surprised it's not installed. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE Plasma 5.4.1 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Wife's sid box still wants to deinstall on dist-upgrade
On 09/17/2015 08:59 AM, Brad Alexander wrote: Has the gcc5 situation stabilized in sid? A dist-upgrade still wants to uninstall a bunch of stuff: The following packages will be REMOVED: coinor-libcoinutils3 coinor-libosi1 digikam digikam-private-libs gimp kde-full kde-plasma-desktop kde-plasma-netbook kde-standard kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-bin kdeplasma-addons kgamma klipper kscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers ktron libasprintf0c2 libatkmm-1.6-1 libboost-date-time1.54.0 libboost-date-time1.55.0 libcairomm-1.0-1 libclucene-contribs1 libclucene-core1 libcmis-0.3-3 libcmis-0.4-4 libcmis-0.5-5 libcwidget3 libebml4 libept1.4.12 libgegl-0.0-0 libgegl-0.1-0 libgegl-0.2-0 libglademm-2.4-1c2a libglibmm-2.4-1c2a libgltf-0.0-0 libgpgme++2 libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a libgtkmm-3.0-1 libilmbase6 libkolab0 libkolabxml1 libllvm3.5 libmagickcore5-extra libmatroska6 libmsn0.3 libmusicbrainz3-6 libopenconnect2 libopenconnect3 libopencv-calib3d2.3 libopencv-features2d2.3 libopencv-highgui2.3 libopencv-legacy2.3 libopencv-objdetect2.3 libopenexr6 liborcus-0.10-0 libpangomm-1.4-1 libpcrecpp0 libplasma-ruby libproxy1 libqalculate5 libqpdf13 libreoffice-style-crystal libsigc++-2.0-0c2a libsmokebase3 libsmokeqtwebkit4-3 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libsword10 libsword9 libtag1-vanilla libtag1c2a libtinyxml2.6.2 libtunepimp5 libxapian22 nvidia-glx plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-desktopthemes-artwork plasma-netbook plasma-scriptengine-ruby plasma-scriptengines plasma-widgets-addons plasma-widgets-workspace ruby-kde4 ruby-plasma ruby-qt4-webkit I'm guessing that this is not normal, and I end up skipping over the dist-upgrade. Now the list is a lot smaller than it was, but digikam digikam-private-libs gimp kde-full kde-plasma-desktop kde-plasma-netbook kde-standard kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-bin kdeplasma-addons kgamma klipper gave me pause. Suggestions? Brad I'm just going to look at your apps and I see gimp & digikam, in Sid both are installable, from what I understand currently all apps are installable. Sid is upstream and I will probably be running Sid for the next few months before switching back to Stretch. Upstream is a new Debian system and Plasma 5 is a new Desktop and you have old crud on your system. I'm running 5 plasma-5 systems and they are all clean, what I did was run package 'upgrade-system' and let it have its way with my system and it showed me what a mess I was running, after upgrade system was done I reinstalled anything that was missing with no problem and this was on 5 plasma-5 systems. On Sept 15th Debian reported everybody upstream should be able to have a clean updated system and they are on spot as far as I can see. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE Plasma 5.4.1 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Wife's sid box still wants to deinstall on dist-upgrade
On 09/17/2015 12:44 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:39:36PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Brad I'm just going to look at your apps and I see gimp & digikam, in Sid both are installable gimp yes, digikam no. Then your system is dirty and you should listen to what I'm saying or not, up to you. But tell me what is the worst that can happen? what I did was run package 'upgrade-system' and let it have its way with my system and it showed me what a mess I was running That sounds like overstatement. On 5 systems and one of the systems, this one, I have been running the same Sid for more than 10 years, I know what I'm doing, maybe you don't. On Sept 15th Debian reported everybody upstream should be able to have a clean updated system and they are on spot as far as I can see. Huh? That should have read KDE announce. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE Plasma 5.4.1 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Wife's sid box still wants to deinstall on dist-upgrade
On 09/17/2015 01:14 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 09/17/2015 12:44 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:39:36PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Brad I'm just going to look at your apps and I see gimp & digikam, in Sid both are installable gimp yes, digikam no. Then your system is dirty and you should listen to what I'm saying or not, up to you. But tell me what is the worst that can happen? what I did was run package 'upgrade-system' and let it have its way with my system and it showed me what a mess I was running That sounds like overstatement. On 5 systems and one of the systems, this one, I have been running the same Sid for more than 10 years, I know what I'm doing, maybe you don't. On Sept 15th Debian reported everybody upstream should be able to have a clean updated system and they are on spot as far as I can see. Huh? That should have read KDE announce. I'm sorry Andrey, you are correct digikam is in fact not installable, please forgive me. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE Plasma 5.4.1 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Konqueror file-management problem.
Konqueror file-management is only working in file-size, we had this problem once before when dolphin was not installable, but dolphin seems to be okay. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE Plasma 5.4.1 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Can't start Kuser
On 09/26/2015 10:42 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: Hello All, A strange one, this; I'm trying to start Kuser from the KDE menu, but it refuses to accept the root password. I know the password to be correct (it's accepted by everything else). I can start it from the konsole with 'sudo kuser', and it works as expected. So, I've got a workaround, but it would be nice to get things going properly. Error report is; Permission denied. Possibly incorrect password, please try again. On some systems, you need to be in a special group (often: wheel) to use this program Weirdly, on another machine, Kuser works fine. So it would appear there's something odd about the particular setup on this machine. Searching the internet has proved fruitless. Maybe my search-foo isn't up to the task. Any help greatly appreciated. Sorry for your problems Brad, no problems here with kuser on any of my 5 Sid systems. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE Plasma 5.4.1 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Why changing the volume when restoring the session ?
On 10/21/2015 03:03 AM, newbee...@nativobject.net wrote: Hi, I have a question of a useless behaviour. Everytime I restore my plasma5 session from standby mode the sound volume is put to 100% ! Is it possible to disable that foolish feature ? It seem to be a regression of that bug : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324975 Regards Mourad I went to 'System Tray Settings'(right click on the tray) and unchecked 'Audio Volume', plus some others I did not need or want. I now use Kmix with no problem. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE-Plasma 5.4.1 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: dist-upgrade still failing
On 10/30/2015 04:50 PM, Carlos Kosloff wrote: Thanks for all answers, this is my report. This is the list of commands I tried: as root: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, 0 packages apt-get purge lightdm apt-get autoremove --purge apt-get install --reinstall kdm apt-get install kde-full apt-get install task-kde-desktop reboot I still get the lightdm greeter and it fails to start back to the console systemctl stop kdm.service systemctl start kdm.service systemctl stop lightdm.service, not loaded as user startx, still the lightdm screen, no desktop back to console as user startx startkde, kde starts as an xterm session Problem I see is that even grub now has the lightdm screen, I cannot understand how that happens since I completely purged lightdm. So as root apt-get install grub-efi-amd64 apt-get install --reinstall grub-common still SOL, startx startkde is my only option so far. Where is Lisandro when you need him? If anybody wants to troubleshoot logs, I am of course willing to paste. Did you run 'dpkg-reconfigure kdm' after installing kdm? -- Kali Linux - KDE 4.14.2 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda10 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Safe to upgrade?
On 12/10/2015 02:38 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: martin@merkaba:~> uptime 23:34:54 up 4 days, 11:08, 0 users, load average: 1,22, 1,61, 1,58 with several suspend and several hibernation cycles in between, cause I never it it running through the night. No issue. Just works. Even with two Plasma sessions. One private one and one for work. Just sometimes I have it that Plasma session is not locked properly, and then doesn�t respond to mouse clicks at all. I did not wait for more than a few minutes so far for it to respond again and just "killall -u" it. But it happens quite rarely. Debian Sid, with self-compiled KF5 and KDEPIM, but Plasma from Debian packages. Thanks, All four of my Plasma systems crash, just setting there or maybe I'll be playing Kpat, it's been the case for along time now. While Xfce is as stable as stable can be. By the way it's 140 packages and 225MB if you want to install Kpat on an Xfce system. Thanks, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - Xfce 4.12 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: iceweasel locking up under KDE, fine under Xfce
On 12/11/2015 01:30 PM, Arthur Marsh wrote: Arthur Marsh wrote on 03/12/15 23:23: With an update to KDE from unstable, iceweasel from unstable locked up every time until I upgraded iceweasel to experimental. Now iceweasel runs fine under KDE. As previously mentioned running with Radeon 3200HD (RS780) and vdpau libraries installed. Arthur. I had one lock-up after installing the latest Linus' git head kernel with some Radeon-specic updates but did not lock up on a second attempt. This seems to be an issue related to the graphics card used. Arthur. Maybe, but I don't know how it all fits as I'm using Nvidia card and the free driver from the Debian repos..What happens to me is I get a Notice that plasma has crashed and sure enough the panel has crashed, I close the the Notice and go back to what I was doing and then it will crash again..If I don't acknowledge the Notice the system/computer will Freeze causing Plasma to be useless as a system and me doing a Hard-Shutdown.. I'm willing to do testing if someone wants to fix the problem.. -- Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda10 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: iceweasel locking up under KDE, fine under Xfce
On 12/12/2015 03:59 AM, Luc Castermans wrote: Op 12-12-15 om 01:09 schreef Jimmy Johnson: On 12/11/2015 01:30 PM, Arthur Marsh wrote: Arthur Marsh wrote on 03/12/15 23:23: This seems to be an issue related to the graphics card used. Maybe, but I don't know how it all fits as I'm using Nvidia card and the free driver from the Debian repos..What happens to me is I get a Notice that plasma has crashed and sure enough the panel has crashed, I close the the Notice and go back to what I was doing and then it will crash again..If I don't acknowledge the Notice the system/computer will Freeze causing Plasma to be useless as a system and me doing a Hard-Shutdown.. I'm willing to do testing if someone wants to fix the problem.. I always had bad experience with the free nvidia drivers. I always used the drivers from nvidia. Luc Thanks for getting me to try the driver again, it's working with xrender, but sddm is being weird, it's losing mouse focus, I have to click in the box to enter my password, I didn't have to do that with the debian driver. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE Plasma 5.4.3 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: iceweasel locking up under KDE, fine under Xfce
On 12/12/2015 11:52 PM, Luc Castermans wrote: Op 13-12-15 om 04:25 schreef Jimmy Johnson: I always had bad experience with the free nvidia drivers. I always used the drivers from nvidia. Thanks for getting me to try the driver again, it's working with xrender, but sddm is being weird, it's losing mouse focus, I have to click in the box to enter my password, I didn't have to do that with the debian driver. At the moment I have a Radeon HD 8670D card in my PC. Also I need to click to enter a password. I believe (1) this behaviour should not depend on the driver and (2) this is the default behaviour of SDDM Yes you are right it should have nothing to do with the driver you have installed, but since testing plasma it has so far been the case, there is a big difference if you have the 'Nouveau' or 'Nvidia' driver installed with the Nouveau driver SDDM dose not lose focus and I do not have to click in the box to enter my password, this I have tested on 2 Stretch and my other Sid system and loosing mouse focus has not been a problem with SDDM, I have 4 upstream plasma systems. Currently I'm going to keep the Nvidia Driver installed on the one Sid system because outside of loosing focus on SDDM it other wise seems to be working, but I need to spend more time with it. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE-Plasma 5.4.1 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda14 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: iceweasel locking up under KDE, fine under Xfce
On 12/14/2015 10:16 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 12/12/2015 11:52 PM, Luc Castermans wrote: Op 13-12-15 om 04:25 schreef Jimmy Johnson: I always had bad experience with the free nvidia drivers. I always used the drivers from nvidia. Thanks for getting me to try the driver again, it's working with xrender, but sddm is being weird, it's losing mouse focus, I have to click in the box to enter my password, I didn't have to do that with the debian driver. At the moment I have a Radeon HD 8670D card in my PC. Also I need to click to enter a password. I believe (1) this behaviour should not depend on the driver and (2) this is the default behaviour of SDDM Yes you are right it should have nothing to do with the driver you have installed, but since testing plasma it has so far been the case, there is a big difference if you have the 'Nouveau' or 'Nvidia' driver installed with the Nouveau driver SDDM dose not lose focus and I do not have to click in the box to enter my password, this I have tested on 2 Stretch and my other Sid system and loosing mouse focus has not been a problem with SDDM, I have 4 upstream plasma systems. Currently I'm going to keep the Nvidia Driver installed on the one Sid system because outside of loosing focus on SDDM it other wise seems to be working, but I need to spend more time with it. I'm already back to using the nouveau driver..The Nvidia driver or the Debian Nvidia driver do not work with the new kernel, on the plus side SDDM is now working and not loosing focus. Plasma still crashes for no apparent reason. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE Plasma 5.4.3 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: iceweasel locking up under KDE, fine under Xfce
On 12/16/2015 03:34 PM, Arthur Marsh wrote: Arthur Marsh wrote on 15/12/15 16:18: and the problem seems to have gone away with the upgrade of packages based on kde4libs from 4:4.14.14-1 to 4:4.14.14-1+b1 Arthur. Back again with a vengeance, I can't even bring up iceweasel in gdb under KDE without it locking up. I can run iceweasel xfce alright though. Arthur. Besides XFCE4 I'm also looking at the "Trinity Desktop" ported to Debian, currently I have both Jessie and Stretch installed with Trinity, but I'm taking it slow, it's still a longtime before Stretch goes finial, but it has been disturbing me with all the auto-stuff that's being installed and working in the background, but I'm sure there will be a lot of people who will love their new system, but it just don't fell like a Debian System to me. -- Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda10 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade
On 06/05/2016 08:00 PM, Allen James wrote:
Dear maintainers,
I use Debian Testing. Before today, my previous dist-upgrade was on May 28, at
which points all packages were up to date and KDE 5.4 was running smoothly.
Today (June 5) I again dist-upgrade my laptop and now KDE is very broken.
The following is a list of many of the KDE-related packages upgraded today
(others not related to KDE/Qt/KF5/etc were removed to the best of my ability):
Now, after reboot, Plasma does not start ("Plasma Cannot Start. All shell
packages missing."), I cannot connect to the internet, there is no krunner, etc,
basically huge problems. Concerned about this because I had maintained my laptop
on Debian Testing using KDE for almost 3 years without any major issue. Is there
a way to restore what I previously had, or is there any advice regarding this?
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Thank you.
Allen J
Hi Allen! I don't know how long you've been running testing but for the
time being you may find less problems by using both testing and unstable
repos, at some point testing will become stable and then you will no
longer need the unstable repos, but that is far away. Currently while
using both repos, things are looking pretty good. :)
--
Jimmy Johnson
Plasma-5 - Where's my Quick-Launch?
Registered Linux User #380263
Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade
On 06/05/2016 08:00 PM, Allen James wrote:
Dear maintainers,
I use Debian Testing. Before today, my previous dist-upgrade was on May 28, at
which points all packages were up to date and KDE 5.4 was running smoothly.
Today (June 5) I again dist-upgrade my laptop and now KDE is very broken.
The following is a list of many of the KDE-related packages upgraded today
(others not related to KDE/Qt/KF5/etc were removed to the best of my ability):
Now, after reboot, Plasma does not start ("Plasma Cannot Start. All shell
packages missing."), I cannot connect to the internet, there is no krunner, etc,
basically huge problems. Concerned about this because I had maintained my laptop
on Debian Testing using KDE for almost 3 years without any major issue. Is there
a way to restore what I previously had, or is there any advice regarding this?
snip <
Thank you.
Allen J
Hi Allen! I don't know how long you've been running testing but for the
time being you may find less problems by using both testing and unstable
repos, at some point testing will become stable and then you will no
longer need the unstable repos, but that is far away. Currently while
using both repos, things are looking pretty good. :)
--
Jimmy Johnson
Plasma-5 - Where's my Quick-Launch?
Registered Linux User #380263
Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.
The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or right click and Search is affected too. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - KDE-Plasma-Desktop 5.7.4 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda12 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Btrfs & Dolphin
On 09/11/2016 09:42 AM, Gary Dale wrote: I've been considering switching from Ext4 for a while but don't have any compelling reasons to do so.. Why? It's still in development was the last I heard. When I build my new computer next year to use the latest peripherals devices, I'm thinking about using ZFS, it's fast and requires good hardware and ECC RAM. https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Debian-GNU-Linux-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem Until then EXT is the Holy Grail of Linux file systems, self healing, no compatibility problems and fast too. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid - KDE-Plasma 5.7.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda14 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.
On 09/01/2016 08:51 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or right click and Search is affected too. Thank you upstream developing and packaging team for replacing the effected packages. Yay! These packages have now been upgraded in Sid, 'gir1.2-gtk-3.0, libgtk-3-0. libgtk-3-bin. libgtk-3-common' if you have been using testing and where effected you can temp add Sid repos and upgrade the effected packages, it will pull in a few more packages, but it is fixed. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - Plasma 5.7.4 - AMD 64 - EXT4 at sda11 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Compositing Problem
On 10/12/2016 12:10 PM, David Baron wrote: Running must recent kwin, etc., with Sid nvidia-legacy-304xx driver. Window decorations slow or do not show on non-KDE windows. If they do not show, one can pretend they are there and do everything. Effects all compositing options. Where to file bug? Quick fix? Quick fix, force install all your 'nvidia' and 'glx' installed packages back to 'Jessie-backports' and then 'lock-them' works, maybe 20-24 packages that you will be locking, varies a little with my installs, some I had not upgraded and I only had to lock the packages. I used synaptic while in xfce4 and all your kde apps work from xfce4 too as a side note. Note no problem with upgrades and those files being locked, at this time anyways. hehe There's a lot noise out there about fix's, I found nothing works for me. I came up with this fix and it works. While gtk works with the upgrade, plasma don't, it's a problem with plasma, you can't blame nvidia and say they are not doing their part, this is a problem debian plasma, I'm sure they are working on it. Seems to affect only 'legacy-304' and could be a simple code error. With the Debian-nvidia driver: Plasma is unable to start as it could not correctly use OpenGL2. Note dialog is working, sound is working, no plasma. With the Debian-free driver, computer freeze with colorful squiggly lines and I have to push the power button and repair the file system. David, do you have a better fix than down-grading the packages? And I may not need to down grade as many packages as I do, but it works. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma Version 5.8.2 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Compositing Problem
On 10/20/2016 12:22 AM, Maximiliano Curia wrote: Control: tag -1 + help �Hola NVIDIA Maintainers! It seems that the new plasma version has some kind of incompatibility with the nvidia-legacy-304xx packages in sid. The following mail reports that using the nvidia packages from backports works as expected. Yes! Jessie-backports are the same version as Sid's old version before the upgrade. Why upgraded, I have no idea. In the kde team we are not using nvidia cards, so we can't reproduce/test this. And frankly, this might be way out of our league. :( Thus the request for help. I have been testing, I have 7 installs on this machine, if someone wants me to try a fix I can try. 2 plasma installs on my Intel laptop and the laptop is loving plasma, my second desktop is ATI and Intel and no problem with the display, but has a couple other problems I'm working on due to a quick upgrade to plasma from wheezy. Is this issue known to you? Should this bug be reassigned to the nvidia packages? Can you reproduce it? If so, can you point us to what the problem might be? Happy hacking, El 2016-10-19 a las 23:33 -0700, Jimmy Johnson escribi�: On 10/12/2016 12:10 PM, David Baron wrote: Running must recent kwin, etc., with Sid nvidia-legacy-304xx driver. Window decorations slow or do not show on non-KDE windows. If they do not show, one can pretend they are there and do everything. Effects all compositing options. Where to file bug? Quick fix? Quick fix, force install all your 'nvidia' and 'glx' installed packages back to 'Jessie-backports' and then 'lock-them' works, maybe 20-24 packages that you will be locking, varies a little with my installs, some I had not upgraded and I only had to lock the packages. I used synaptic while in xfce4 and all your kde apps work from xfce4 too as a side note. Note no problem with upgrades and those files being locked, at this time anyways. hehe There's a lot noise out there about fix's, I found nothing works for me. I came up with this fix and it works. While gtk works with the upgrade, plasma don't, it's a problem with plasma, you can't blame nvidia and say they are not doing their part, this is a problem debian plasma, I'm sure they are working on it. Seems to affect only 'legacy-304' and could be a simple code error. With the Debian-nvidia driver: Plasma is unable to start as it could not correctly use OpenGL2. Note dialog is working, sound is working, no plasma. With the Debian-free driver, computer freeze with colorful squiggly lines and I have to push the power button and repair the file system. David, do you have a better fix than down-grading the packages? And I may not need to down grade as many packages as I do, but it works. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma Version 5.8.2 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Compositing Problem
On 10/20/2016 01:04 AM, David Baron wrote: On יום חמישי, 20 באוקטובר 2016 9:22:29 IDT Maximiliano Curia wrote: Control: tag -1 + help ¡Hola NVIDIA Maintainers! It seems that the new plasma version has some kind of incompatibility with the nvidia-legacy-304xx packages in sid. The following mail reports that using the nvidia packages from backports works as expected. In the kde team we are not using nvidia cards, so we can't reproduce/test this. And frankly, this might be way out of our league. :( Thus the request for help. Is this issue known to you? Should this bug be reassigned to the nvidia packages? Can you reproduce it? If so, can you point us to what the problem might be? Happy hacking, El 2016-10-19 a las 23:33 -0700, Jimmy Johnson escribió: On 10/12/2016 12:10 PM, David Baron wrote: Running must recent kwin, etc., with Sid nvidia-legacy-304xx driver. Window decorations slow or do not show on non-KDE windows. If they do not show, one can pretend they are there and do everything. Effects all compositing options. Where to file bug? Quick fix? Quick fix, force install all your 'nvidia' and 'glx' installed packages back to 'Jessie-backports' and then 'lock-them' works, maybe 20-24 packages that you will be locking, varies a little with my installs, some I had not upgraded and I only had to lock the packages. I used synaptic while in xfce4 and all your kde apps work from xfce4 too as a side note. Note no problem with upgrades and those files being locked, at this time anyways. hehe 4. If downgrading 304xx be the only way now, please give me step by step how to do this since testing packages are broken. Using dkms. Add 'deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports non-free contrib main' to your sources.list and start downgrading nvidia and glx. In synaptic use the menu, package, force install. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma Version 5.8.2 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Compositing Problem
On 10/19/2016 11:53 PM, Thom Castermans wrote: This may be something you already tried, but a friend of mine had this issue so I am suggesting it anyway. Are you sure you need the 304.x version of the drivers? If you have a newer graphics card, then using this older driver may cause problems. You can check this by running nvidia-debugdump --list to see your device name and then searching for it in this list <http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html>, or, probably easier, selecting it on this page <http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us>. You can then search for the Debian package matching the suggested version. Good luck, video drivers tend to be finicky... Thom Complying to check for proper driver. jimmy@jimmy-1:~$ nvidia-detect Detected NVIDIA GPUs: 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] [10de:03d6] (rev a2) Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2) Your card is only supported up to the 304 legacy drivers series. It is recommended to install the nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver package. jimmy@jimmy-1:~$ Thanks. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - XFCE4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda24 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Compositing Problem
On 10/20/2016 02:10 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/20/2016 12:22 AM, Maximiliano Curia wrote: Control: tag -1 + help �Hola NVIDIA Maintainers! It seems that the new plasma version has some kind of incompatibility with the nvidia-legacy-304xx packages in sid. The following mail reports that using the nvidia packages from backports works as expected. Yes! Jessie-backports are the same version as Sid's old version before the upgrade. Why upgraded, I have no idea. In the kde team we are not using nvidia cards, so we can't reproduce/test this. And frankly, this might be way out of our league. :( Thus the request for help. I have been testing, I have 7 installs on this machine, if someone wants me to try a fix I can try. 2 plasma installs on my Intel laptop and the laptop is loving plasma, my second desktop is ATI and Intel and no problem with the display, but has a couple other problems I'm working on due to a quick upgrade to plasma from wheezy. Is this issue known to you? Should this bug be reassigned to the nvidia packages? Can you reproduce it? If so, can you point us to what the problem might be? Happy hacking, El 2016-10-19 a las 23:33 -0700, Jimmy Johnson escribi�: On 10/12/2016 12:10 PM, David Baron wrote: Running must recent kwin, etc., with Sid nvidia-legacy-304xx driver. Window decorations slow or do not show on non-KDE windows. If they do not show, one can pretend they are there and do everything. Effects all compositing options. Where to file bug? Quick fix? Quick fix, force install all your 'nvidia' and 'glx' installed packages back to 'Jessie-backports' and then 'lock-them' works, maybe 20-24 packages that you will be locking, varies a little with my installs, some I had not upgraded and I only had to lock the packages. I used synaptic while in xfce4 and all your kde apps work from xfce4 too as a side note. Note no problem with upgrades and those files being locked, at this time anyways. hehe There's a lot noise out there about fix's, I found nothing works for me. I came up with this fix and it works. While gtk works with the upgrade, plasma don't, it's a problem with plasma, you can't blame nvidia and say they are not doing their part, this is a problem debian plasma, I'm sure they are working on it. Seems to affect only 'legacy-304' and could be a simple code error. With the Debian-nvidia driver: Plasma is unable to start as it could not correctly use OpenGL2. Note dialog is working, sound is working, no plasma. With the Debian-free driver, computer freeze with colorful squiggly lines and I have to push the power button and repair the file system. David, do you have a better fix than down-grading the packages? And I may not need to down grade as many packages as I do, but it works. I unlocked 'libgl1-mesa-glx' so I could upgrade the 3 'mesa' packages of same version, with no ill effects and got a full, clean upgrade. Currently I have 23 nvidia+glx packages locked and all is well. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma Version 5.8.2 - EXT4 at sda18 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Compositing Problem
On 10/22/2016 10:49 AM, David Baron wrote: Just maybe it be time that plasma worked correctly with Nouveau. Nouveau is beautiful for everything else. At least, Debian folks are maintaining that, not dependent on Nvidia to maintain for legacy devices they would rather forget. As I have already reported, the Debian free driver(Nouveau) freezes the system with colorful squiggly lines and I have to push and hold the power button to turn the computer off and then repair the file system. I'm waiting to hear from upstream for suggestions on what I may test to help fix the plasma nvidia problem. Downgrading to Jessie-backports works, but cause package management problems. I wonder if backporting the free driver would work too. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Wheezy - KDE 4.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Compositing Problem
On 10/27/2016 02:51 AM, Diederik de Haas wrote: On donderdag 27 oktober 2016 02:38:10 CEST Jimmy Johnson wrote: Downgrading to Jessie-backports works, but cause package management problems. I wonder if backporting the free driver would work too. Not likely. It would only work if both nouveau and nvidia had a working driver and both introduced a bug around the same time which made it not work. It can happen, but statistically highly unlikely. The jessie-backports workaround was just to get back to an older known working driver and apparently ppl found that easier then using snapshot.debian.org. When you're using testing or sid, I highly recommend getting familiar with snapshot.debian.org as it allows you to downgrade to any version that was released to debian. Yep, Nouveau didn't work, this time it locked up with black and white squiggle lines shaped like lightning bolts. Installed Nvidia-304, downgraded 22 packages and back in business again. This was on a new install. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma Version 5.8.2 - EXT4 at sda24 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Bug#1 Freeze
On 11/07/2016 04:44 AM, Tim Ruehsen wrote: With latest updates made today: From time to time, KDE freezes. Any idea ? Hi, If it's an Intel video card and the kernel is 4.8 downgrade the kernel to 4.7 and it will take care of the problem. -- Jimmy Johnson "Debian Wheezy" - KDE 4.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda5 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Bug#1 Freeze
On 11/09/2016 12:20 AM, newbee...@nativobject.net wrote: Le 09/11/2016 à 04:14, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : On 11/07/2016 04:44 AM, Tim Ruehsen wrote: With latest updates made today: From time to time, KDE freezes. Any idea ? Hi, If it's an Intel video card and the kernel is 4.8 downgrade the kernel to 4.7 and it will take care of the problem. Same here ! Regards Mourad Mine is an Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics and it's now working swell with the Sid 4.8.0-2 kernel but not as quick to load as the 4.7.0-1 kernel which works with no problem. In Stretch the 4.8.0-2 kernel is freezing the system, 4.7.0-1 kernel works swell - Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics. Plasma and SDDM. -- Jimmy Johnson Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - Plasma 5.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda22 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Compositing Problem
On 10/19/2016 11:33 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/12/2016 12:10 PM, David Baron wrote: Running must recent kwin, etc., with Sid nvidia-legacy-304xx driver. Window decorations slow or do not show on non-KDE windows. If they do not show, one can pretend they are there and do everything. Effects all compositing options. Where to file bug? Quick fix? Quick fix, force install all your 'nvidia' and 'glx' installed packages back to 'Jessie-backports' and then 'lock-them' works, maybe 20-24 packages that you will be locking, varies a little with my installs, some I had not upgraded and I only had to lock the packages. I used synaptic while in xfce4 and all your kde apps work from xfce4 too as a side note. Note no problem with upgrades and those files being locked, at this time anyways. hehe There's a lot noise out there about fix's, I found nothing works for me. I came up with this fix and it works. While gtk works with the upgrade, plasma don't, it's a problem with plasma, you can't blame nvidia and say they are not doing their part, this is a problem debian plasma, I'm sure they are working on it. Seems to affect only 'legacy-304' and could be a simple code error. With the Debian-nvidia driver: Plasma is unable to start as it could not correctly use OpenGL2. Note dialog is working, sound is working, no plasma. With the Debian-free driver, computer freeze with colorful squiggly lines and I have to push the power button and repair the file system. David, do you have a better fix than down-grading the packages? And I may not need to down grade as many packages as I do, but it works. I updated Sid/testing a couple days ago and retested current drivers, "nouveau" is working with sddm okay but froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Current nvidia-legacy-304xx is working with XRender and compositing enabled and I'm good with that, tested on Stretch too, now I can do clean upgrades and I'm happy. Thank you Debian! -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - Plasma 5.8.2 - nvidia-legacy-304xx - EXT4 at sda14 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Compositing Problem
On 01/07/2017 11:12 AM, David Baron wrote: On יום שבת, 7 בינואר 2017 4:36:59 IST Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/19/2016 11:33 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/12/2016 12:10 PM, David Baron wrote: Running must recent kwin, etc., with Sid nvidia-legacy-304xx driver. Window decorations slow or do not show on non-KDE windows. If they do not show, one can pretend they are there and do everything. Effects all compositing options. Where to file bug? Quick fix? Quick fix, force install all your 'nvidia' and 'glx' installed packages back to 'Jessie-backports' and then 'lock-them' works, maybe 20-24 packages that you will be locking, varies a little with my installs, some I had not upgraded and I only had to lock the packages. I used synaptic while in xfce4 and all your kde apps work from xfce4 too as a side note. Note no problem with upgrades and those files being locked, at this time anyways. hehe There's a lot noise out there about fix's, I found nothing works for me. I came up with this fix and it works. While gtk works with the upgrade, plasma don't, it's a problem with plasma, you can't blame nvidia and say they are not doing their part, this is a problem debian plasma, I'm sure they are working on it. Seems to affect only 'legacy-304' and could be a simple code error. With the Debian-nvidia driver: Plasma is unable to start as it could not correctly use OpenGL2. Note dialog is working, sound is working, no plasma. With the Debian-free driver, computer freeze with colorful squiggly lines and I have to push the power button and repair the file system. David, do you have a better fix than down-grading the packages? And I may not need to down grade as many packages as I do, but it works. I updated Sid/testing a couple days ago and retested current drivers, "nouveau" is working with sddm okay but froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Current nvidia-legacy-304xx is working with XRender and compositing enabled and I'm good with that, tested on Stretch too, now I can do clean upgrades and I'm happy. Thank you Debian! Mine does NOT work with xrender I'm sorry to hear that, I have XRender with compositing enabled on four Stretch systems and four Sid/testing systems using current nvidia-legacy-304xx. What are you doing as a work-around? -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - Plasma 5.8.2 at sda13 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Is anyone else experiencing intermittent Plasma freezes as of very recently?
On 01/10/2017 08:10 AM, newbee...@nativobject.net wrote: Le 10/01/2017 à 00:29, fra...@inventati.org a écrit : Hi I'm on Debian Stretch but I'm not experiencing the issues you're discussing here. However I remember to have had similar issues with Plasma 5 and Intel drivers. As a workaround I used this /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf: Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Graphics" Driver "intel" Option "AccelMethod" "sna" Option "TearFree""true" Option "DRI""3" EndSection Given also the previous messages about this topic, enabling DRI3 indeed seems to solve the problem. Anyhow, I discovered that the problem was with the i8xx i9xx display driver, provided by the automatically installed xserver-xorg-video-intel package, which could be not required by new hardware as reported in the description: This package provides the driver for the Intel i8xx and i9xx family of chipsets [...] The use of this driver is discouraged if your hw is new enough (ca. 2007 and newer). You can try uninstalling this driver and let the server use it's builtin modesetting driver instead. I tried to uninstall this package as suggested and the problem was solved: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf sudo apt purge xserver-xorg-video-intel && sudo reboot Ciao Francesco Hi, I'm currently testing it and no crash since 3h... But it couldn't work with my desktop which is using nouveau driver on an nvidia graphic card... Regards Mourad Yes, the symptoms are the same. For the Intel I use the old linux-image-4.7.0-1 with no problem. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/testing - Plasma 5.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263
linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
And it still works. I updated Sid/testing a couple days ago and retested current drivers, "nouveau" is working with sddm okay but froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Current nvidia-legacy-304xx is working with XRender and compositing enabled and I'm good with that, tested on Stretch too, now I can do clean upgrades and I'm happy. Thank you Debian! linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 is behaving like image-4.8 used to behave nouveau froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Debian's nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver is freezing with plasma start. On first boot plasma loaded the vga driver giving me the wrong screen size and did not load the installed nvidia driver at all. Booting linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 and reinstalling nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver crashed plasma and so did nouveau. I'm back to using nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver and linux-image-4.8.0-2-amd64 with XRender and compositing enabled. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/testing - Plasma 5.8.4 - nvidia-legacy-304xx - EXT4 at sda14 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
On 01/14/2017 02:26 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
And it still works.
I updated Sid/testing a couple days ago and retested current drivers,
"nouveau" is working with sddm okay but froze with plasma(colorful
lighting bolts). Current nvidia-legacy-304xx is working with XRender
and compositing enabled and I'm good with that, tested on Stretch too,
now I can do clean upgrades and I'm happy. Thank you Debian!
linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 is behaving like image-4.8 used to behave
nouveau froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Debian's
nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver is freezing with plasma start.
On first boot plasma loaded the vga driver giving me the wrong screen
size and did not load the installed nvidia driver at all. Booting
linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 and reinstalling nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver
crashed plasma and so did nouveau. I'm back to using
nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver and linux-image-4.8.0-2-amd64 with XRender
and compositing enabled.
Here are some bits from log files:
Kernel log:
[0.888338] rtc_cmos 00:02: alarms up to one year, y3k, 242 bytes
nvram, hpet irqs
System log:
[0.888542] rtc_cmos 00:02: alarms up to one year, y3k, 242 bytes
nvram, hpet irqs
First boot with new kernel:
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 kernel [ 39.088148] NVRM: Your system is not
currently configured to drive a VGA console
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 kernel [ 39.088157] NVRM: on the primary VGA
device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 kernel [ 39.088160] NVRM: requires the use of
a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 kernel [ 39.088162] NVRM: drivers including,
but not limited to, vesafb, may result in
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 kernel [ 39.088164] NVRM: corruption and
stability problems, and is not supported.
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 sddm[595] Running display setup script
"/usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsetup"
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 sddm[595] Display server started.
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 sddm[595] Socket server starting...
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 sddm[595] Socket server started.
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 sddm[595] Greeter starting...
1/14/17 7:51 PM jimmy-1 sddm[595] Adding cookie to
"/var/run/sddm/{f73eabcb-08df-499d-83bc-90cf9a367ba1}"
NVRM: DRM init failed
Is something missing in the kernel, maybe a module?
--
Jimmy Johnson
Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma Version 5.8.4 - EXT4 at sda17
Registered Linux User #380263
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
On 01/14/2017 09:51 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-01-14 20:37 (UTC-0800): Is something missing in the kernel, maybe a module? Which gfxchip do you have? This is Nvidia GeForce7025 using nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver using the 4.8.0-2 kernel because it's the only thing I've found to work. Did you miss that the _preferred_ FOSS video driver in Sid, modesetting, is integrated into the xerver and you haven't tried it? It might be your solution. If you purge nouveau and nvidia drivers modesetting should be used automatically unless your gfxchip is outside support scope. I don't know whether there actually has been an announcement for NVidia, but NAICT it did happen for Intel: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-Xorg-Intel-DDX-Switch http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-modesetting-2017&num=1 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Debian-Abandon-Intel-DDX I'm also using an Intel desktop with ATI Radeon 9550 graphics and an Intel Laptop with Intel 965 graphics and this my main desktop is Nvidia with Nvidia GeForce7025 graphics. They all have some kind of problem with Sid/testing and Stretch Plasma. They all have many systems installed and are ready to test suggestions. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma Version 5.8.4 - EXT4 at sda17 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
On 01/15/2017 10:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-01-15 10:24 (UTC-0800): This is Nvidia GeForce7025 using nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver using the 4.8.0-2 kernel because it's the only thing I've found to work. I'm also using an Intel desktop with ATI Radeon 9550 graphics and an Intel Laptop with Intel 965 graphics and this my main desktop is Nvidia with Nvidia GeForce7025 graphics. They all have some kind of problem with Sid/testing and Stretch Plasma. They all have many systems installed and are ready to test suggestions. 965 is too old for Xorg's modesetting driver support. About the 9550 I don't know because I don't have its rv number or know the rv number breakpoint, but suspect it might be supported, as the next rv group is supported. NAICT your 7025 should be new enough to use it. The 965 is only using "ro", the 4.8 and 4.9 kernel are installed but not working. The 4.7.0-1 kernel works swell, if the newer kernel's are not working later on I will do something else, like import another kernel that will be updated. The ATI is basically working with the 4.8.0-2 kernel and with the 4.9 kernel if I assist it by pressing key's on the keyboard or it dies and it's just using "ro". The Nvidia has to use "ro nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0" and is working swell with the 4.8.0-2 kernel but dies with the 4.9 kernel. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.4 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
On 01/14/2017 02:26 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: And it still works. I updated Sid/testing a couple days ago and retested current drivers, "nouveau" is working with sddm okay but froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Current nvidia-legacy-304xx is working with XRender and compositing enabled and I'm good with that, tested on Stretch too, now I can do clean upgrades and I'm happy. Thank you Debian! linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 is behaving like image-4.8 used to behave nouveau froze with plasma(colorful lighting bolts). Debian's nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver is freezing with plasma start. On first boot plasma loaded the vga driver giving me the wrong screen size and did not load the installed nvidia driver at all. Booting linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 and reinstalling nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver crashed plasma and so did nouveau. I'm back to using nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver and linux-image-4.8.0-2-amd64 with XRender and compositing enabled. I'm happy to report linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver are currently working swell together. Thank you Debian! -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver + xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
On 01/23/2017 11:54 PM, David Baron wrote: On יום שני, 23 בינואר 2017 21:14:58 IST Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 01/14/2017 02:26 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: I'm happy to report linux-image-4.9.0-1-amd64 + nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver are currently working swell together. I just updated, rebooted. See no change. Window decorations still missing, both in openGL and Xrender. Yes, Plasma defaults to OpenGL 2.0 and it's not good that it's not working, you have to use XRender, but compositing is working. Once you switch to XRender you need to logout/login to see the change. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma Version 5.8.4 - EXT4 at sda17 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Bug#1 Freeze - Re: Intel i965
On 02/10/2017 07:54 AM, debian-kde@lists.debian.org wrote: "Re: Bug#1 Freeze" Jimmy Johnson doc "Mine is an Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics and it's now working swell with the Sid 4.8.0-2 kernel but not as quick to load as the 4.7.0-1 kernel which works with no problem. In Stretch the 4.8.0-2 kernel is freezing the system, 4.7.0-1 kernel works swell - Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics. Plasma and SDDM." Here's an update for the i965, the linux-image-4.7 is no longer in the reposes, but is still on my laptop. linux-image-4.8 and 4.9 work only if I keep pressing ctrl+alt+F1, F2, F7, etc., way to much regression. Sometimes it will do a first boot without assistance from me but on the reboot will lockup without assistance. I'm being forced to use the linux-image from Jessie(works swell) in order to get updates. jessie-backports 4.8 and 4.9 do not work with plasma on the i965. If you need testing of assistance let me know. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - Plasma 5.8.4 - EXT4 at sda11 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Bug#1 Freeze - Re: Intel i965
On 02/10/2017 06:58 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 02/10/2017 07:54 AM, debian-kde@lists.debian.org wrote: "Re: Bug#1 Freeze" Jimmy Johnson doc "Mine is an Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics and it's now working swell with the Sid 4.8.0-2 kernel but not as quick to load as the 4.7.0-1 kernel which works with no problem. In Stretch the 4.8.0-2 kernel is freezing the system, 4.7.0-1 kernel works swell - Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics. Plasma and SDDM." Here's an update for the i965, the linux-image-4.7 is no longer in the reposes, but is still on my laptop. linux-image-4.8 and 4.9 work only if I keep pressing ctrl+alt+F1, F2, F7, etc., way to much regression. Sometimes it will do a first boot without assistance from me but on the reboot will lockup without assistance. I'm being forced to use the linux-image from Jessie(works swell) in order to get updates. jessie-backports 4.8 and 4.9 do not work with plasma on the i965. If you need testing of assistance let me know. Hello, Update, linux-image-4.9.0-2-amd64 now in Sid is working with i965. regards, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Bug#1 Freeze - Re: Intel i965
On 02/19/2017 07:53 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 02/10/2017 06:58 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 02/10/2017 07:54 AM, debian-kde@lists.debian.org wrote: "Re: Bug#1 Freeze" Jimmy Johnson doc "Mine is an Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics and it's now working swell with the Sid 4.8.0-2 kernel but not as quick to load as the 4.7.0-1 kernel which works with no problem. In Stretch the 4.8.0-2 kernel is freezing the system, 4.7.0-1 kernel works swell - Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics. Plasma and SDDM." Here's an update for the i965, the linux-image-4.7 is no longer in the reposes, but is still on my laptop. linux-image-4.8 and 4.9 work only if I keep pressing ctrl+alt+F1, F2, F7, etc., way to much regression. Sometimes it will do a first boot without assistance from me but on the reboot will lockup without assistance. I'm being forced to use the linux-image from Jessie(works swell) in order to get updates. jessie-backports 4.8 and 4.9 do not work with plasma on the i965. If you need testing of assistance let me know. Hello, Update, linux-image-4.9.0-2-amd64 now in Sid is working with i965. regards, So.. I installed linux-image-4.9.0-2-amd64 to Stretch and it did not work, never got to sddm, just loads a black screen and then freeze/lockup/quits/dies/kaput. Also I worth mentioning, the regression while booting Sid makes it painful to watch it boot, but it will get to the plasma desktop. 4.7.0-1-amd64 is still installed and quick too, works swell. regards, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian St etch - Plasma 5.8.2 - Intel Mobile 965 - EXT4 at sda6 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: plasma-discover-updater not available in stretch but available in sid
On 02/19/2017 01:26 PM, Nikolaos Pantazis wrote: Hi, I run stretch. I have no system tray update notifier in kde plasma. bug #797886 told me to install plasma-discover-updater witch is not available in stretch but is available in sid. Don't know how to solve this problem. Thank you for your work in debian and kde. You must be mistaken, I cannot currently find plasma-discover-updater in Sid or Stretch and this is the first time I've heard of the package. Ah, I see what the problem is, https://packages.debian.org/sid/kde/plasma-discover-updater if you scroll to the bottom of the page you'll see it's only available for kfreebsd. regards, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma Version 5.8.4 - EXT4 at sda17 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation
On 03/15/2017 11:20 AM, fradev wrote: Hi everyone The default KDE/Plasma 5 installation in Stretch, via task-kde-desktop, in my opinion doesn't provide the best user experience because of the many applications installed by default. While the experience with the Plasma desktop is pretty good, the same cannot be said for some KDE applications. To improve the situation, at least for me, in different occasions I had to: - manually install only the required KDE applications in a minimal Debian setup; - or manually remove all the unwanted KDE applications in the default KDE installation (and break meta-packages). The main issue is that, in some cases, the applications required recursively by the package task-kde-desktop are obsolete, bugged and/or are useless redundancies. I'll make some examples at the end of this e-mail to better explain my point of view. I don't know if there are other users considering this as a usability issue but, in case, and if it is still possible to do something given the freeze of Stretch, it could be solved by changing the applications listed as dependencies and recommended by the meta-packages used in the default KDE installation in Stretch. I'm working just for myself on a list of packages that can be omitted or substituted and if someone is interested I can continue in this discussion. Regards Francesco EXAMPLES Let's start with Konqueror, installed by default in the case discussed above. Despite its history and how interesting it is, we all know that Konqueror nowadays lacks developer manpower. Its web engines are obsolete and probably not suitable anymore for a safe web surfing. Surely many of us will not suggest its usage, especially to newcomers. Firefox and Chromium are far superior web browsers and, besides, Firefox is recommended by task-kde-desktop and it is installed in the default KDE installation. Konqueror can also be used as a file manager but we already have Dolphin, that I'm sure is considered the de facto file manager in the Plasma desktop, installed along with it. Konqueror therefore is pretty much useless and redundant in a standard installation. If it so, why install it by default? Same story with some of the KDEPIM applications installed by task-kde-desktop/kde-standard. I'm a Kmail user but like many others I know that Kmail can be a difficult beast to handle, it has its bugs, akonadi could be a pain sometimes, and it lacks developer manpower too (and maybe it will be replaced by Kube in the future). Despite I'm using Kmail I will probably suggest to other users and newcomers to try Icedove/Thunderbird instead, or simply use their e-mail accounts via web browser if it is too much for them. In my opinion Kmail and friends should not be installed by default. There are other cases like that or minor redundancies, such as Kate and Kwrite installed altogether. Why install them both? I agree that konqueror is not needee as a web browser but it's great as a file manager and I think that dolphin is trying to do to much and is not neeed, konq was here first and is the KDE mascot on top of that. As for the rest of your post I agree and what we need is a "debian-plasma-desktop meta package" where it's tested and working including kconnect, wireless, bluetooth, vlc, pulse, etc. and keep pim to the minimal so the kitchen sink is not added but hardware is working the way it should be. Take a look at "neon-plasma-desktop meta package" and you will see what I'm talking about. And I was just thinking about this yesterday. -- Jimmy Johnson KDE Neon - Plasma 5.9.3 - EXT4 at sda7 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation
On 03/17/2017 02:44 AM, fradev wrote: On 15/03/17 13:34:38 CET, Jimmy Johnson wrote: As for the rest of your post I agree and what we need is a "debian-plasma-desktop meta package" where it's tested and working including kconnect, wireless, bluetooth, vlc, pulse, etc. and keep pim to the minimal so the kitchen sink is not added but hardware is working the way it should be. That's the idea, a functional setup without redundant software. But is it possible to discuss such a proposal with the KDE team? Should I submit a bug report? Francesco Hello, Francesco, I was thinking as Users we could discuss the options here first and then make a proposal of the "debian-plasma-desktop" to the KDE team. Utilities= ark, kcalc, kwrite, spectacle. System= bleachbit, kinfo, partition-manager or gparted, konsole, kwalletmanager, synaptic, dolphin. Personally I prefer konqueror and kdf over dolphin, maybe just because I've been using konq and kdf, it seems like forever. Settings= systemsettings Office= okular Multimedia= vlc, k3b Internet= firefox, kget Graphics= gwenview Things like sddm, plasma-networkmanager, kdeconnect, bluetooth and wireless should just work. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation
On 03/17/2017 02:48 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2017, 19:01:16 CET schrieb fradev: The default KDE/Plasma 5 installation in Stretch, via task-kde-desktop, in my opinion doesn't provide the best user experience because of the many applications installed by default. While the experience with the Plasma desktop is pretty good, the same cannot be said for some KDE applications. To improve the situation, at least for me, in different occasions I had to: - manually install only the required KDE applications in a minimal Debian setup; - or manually remove all the unwanted KDE applications in the default KDE installation (and break meta-packages). There are metapackages of finer granularity available like kde-standard, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia. I'm looking at it from the eyes of an average computer user, what they expect and what to do if something is not there that they expect(synaptic), fixing users problems. kde-plasma-desktop covers most, no PIM, that is a personal choice, like you say,install kde-standard if you want PIM, the average user don't even know how to use a keyboard like we do, less a personal information manager. They want to play dvd's, cd's, watch youtube, play internet games and do Facebook, but with a lot of them even Facebook is over their head. "Point-N-Click or Tap" is all they want to do. The average user is not being creative or productive while using the computer nor on this list. regards, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - Plasma 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation
On 03/20/2017 06:41 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, March 20, 2017 01:26:28 AM Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 03/17/2017 02:44 AM, fradev wrote: On 15/03/17 13:34:38 CET, Jimmy Johnson wrote: As for the rest of your post I agree and what we need is a "debian-plasma-desktop meta package" where it's tested and working including kconnect, wireless, bluetooth, vlc, pulse, etc. and keep pim to the minimal so the kitchen sink is not added but hardware is working the way it should be. That's the idea, a functional setup without redundant software. But is it possible to discuss such a proposal with the KDE team? Should I submit a bug report? Office= okular Hmm, somehow I don't think okular fulfills all the needs of office, in my mind being at least: word processor, spreadsheet, (simple) database, slide maker (ala powerpoint). So, I suggest, if you're going to mention / include Firefox (which you did) that you should also include Libre Office (or the other version of Libre Office--don't remember the name--does that still exist?) Well for one thing, someone wanting *office will be able to click install office, if you want it in you may as well put a typing tutor in there too. But kpat, frozen-bubble or texas-holdem would get more use from the average user. If we think positive some educational programs could be added, maybe somethings from child's play or a beginners coding app, it getting to some family member who has the yearn to be creative and productive would be a blessing. Maybe you don't know it, but the average user does not know how to use a keyboard, like putting your index fingers on the f and j keys, basic typing. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - Plasma 5.8.4 - EXT4 at sda11 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation
On 03/30/2017 08:37 AM, fradev wrote: If someone is still interested in the topic, here it is the list of dependencies required by the meta-package *kde-standard* (a dependency of *task-kde-desktop*) with my suggestions on the right. kde-standard Depends: akregator--> change to: Suggests Depends: ark Depends: dragonplayer --> substitute with: vlc Depends: gwenview Depends: juk --> change to: Suggests Depends: kaddressbook --> change to: Suggests Depends: kate --> change to: Suggests Depends: kcalc Depends: kde-plasma-desktop Depends: khelpcenter Depends: kmail--> change to: Suggests Depends: knotes --> change to: Suggests Depends: kopete --> change to: Suggests Depends: korganizer --> change to: Suggests Depends: kde-spectacle Depends: kwalletmanager Depends: okular Depends: plasma-dataengines-addons Depends: plasma-pa Depends: plasma-runners-addons Depends: plasma-wallpapers-addons Depends: plasma-widgets-addons Depends: polkit-kde-agent-1 Depends: sweeper --> change to: Suggests Breaks: Recommends: konq-plugins --> REMOVE Recommends: plasma-nm --> change to: Depends Suggests: Suggests: skanlite Comments and suggestions are welcome. I'm planning to submit a bug report (as a wishlist item) in the next days to see if the issue can be discussed with the maintainers and if something can be done in time for the release of Stretch. Francesco Hi, kde-standard installs more than 130 packages that I do not have on any of my more than 30 installed kde-plasma-desktop's, it's something I will not install for anybody, kmail along makes no sense, to me it should be a stand-along application including it's wizards without pulling in everything PIM. So to me it's not a usable mail client unless someone wants all of PIM. Another thing, on installing kmail it will ask where you want your folders. WHY? Why don't it have defaults and then if the user wants to move the stuff let them. To me KDE PIM is a big mess and always has been, but I never was an evolution user either. I won't use dolphin unless I'm forced to use it and konq-plugins is a needed package for konqueror. No auto-updating for me and sweeper over bleachbit is a haha. I'm no longer a business person, I just make text notes and copy to text a new recipe once in a while. I haven't needed office in a longtime, but when office is needed I think open software can't be beat, but is it needed on every computer? It's fine for kde-standard. When I started this, I wanted a small list of packages that will work when installed, kde-connect, bluetooth, wireless. I go to linux conference and deb.org person after deb.org person can not configure wireless and these things just need to work. KDE does somethings I think are totally WTF, like making oxygen-cursor mandatory, no matter how many different colors it has, it still has balls. I guess every version has to have a WTF or it would not be KDE. I hope you're having a great day! regards, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - Plasma 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda11 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation
On 05/18/2017 10:45 AM, Shawn Sörbom wrote: On Saturday, April 22, 2017 1:07:09 PM PDT fradev wrote: Hi everyone On 25/03/17 18:50:08 CEST, fradev wrote: Here are the dependencies of task-kde-desktop, on the right my suggestions. task-kde-desktop Depends: tasksel Depends: task-desktop Depends: kde-standard Depends: sddm Recommends: kdeaccessibility--> change to: Suggests Recommends: gnome-orca --> change to: Suggests Recommends: k3b --> change to: Suggests Recommends: k3b-i18n--> change to: Suggests Recommends: plasma-nm Recommends: kdesudo Recommends: libreoffice-kde Recommends: apper --> substitute with: synaptic Recommends: gimp Recommends: firefox-esr Recommends: libreoffice Recommends: libreoffice-help-en-us Recommends: mythes-en-us Recommends: hunspell-en-us Recommends: hyphen-en-us Recommends: system-config-printer Recommends: dragonplayer--> substitute with: vlc ..and I use Amarok and Kaffeine, I also install Gstreamer while removing all of VLC. On some systems where they lately require VLC to be installed to get Kaffeine I install SMplayer. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Wheezy - KDE 4.8.4 - Intel G3220 - EXT4 at sda7 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: jessie upgrade deemed very difficult + there is no simple way not to install konqueror
On 06/19/2017 02:24 PM, inkbottle wrote: task-kde-desktop depends on kde-standard which depends on plasma-desktop which depends on kde-baseapps which depends on konqueror which depends on tons of difficult to understand seemingly outdated dependencies. The upgrade is very difficult If you are installing task-kde-desktop then of course it depends on most everything, if you want it slimmed down remove what you don't want or maybe you need help with that? In fact I give up the upgrade altogether. Bye. I'll have to come to it through another angle: There are tons of packages which I deem old and unnecessary, and I find no simple way not to install them. And there is no simple way not to install konqueror. You still here.. There are many other ways and DM's to install and no Konq to deal with, easy. Chris PS: Also aptitude put all automatically installed packages to satisfy dependencies in manually installed: hundreds of them. It is a very difficult upgrade. Only for someone who is difficult, no knowledge and obviously no fun. Cheers, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Buster - Plasma Version 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda17 Registered Linux User #380263
Thank you Debian!
Another release is done! I want to think all involved for keeping as much legacy as you have done, good job! Keeping files and file systems safe and sound can be a difficult job but a necessary job. Special thanks to the KDE team for keeping the legacy oxygen theme, root user konqueror filemanagement, kdf, quick launch, etc. I hope that Legacy KDE will always be an important part of our future and Debian 10, Buster will become the best Linux Distro to ever be installed on a computer. Thanks again Debian! Cheers, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Buster - Plasma Version 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda17 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: jessie upgrade deemed very difficult + there is no simple way not to install konqueror
On 06/19/2017 02:52 PM, Borden Rhodes wrote: I was floored when I saw that they released Stretch. There are so many broken packages on my system that I can't imagine they'd release them. I expect *a lot* of complaints to roll in. Positive criticism is always welcome. :) Debian KDE just got moved to a new infrastructure and from what I gather they did not get much help from the outside nor did they sell us users out, Debian KDE Stretch has become a solid usable Debian System and like a good wine will only get better. Cheers, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Buster - KDE Plasma Version 5.8.6 - EXT4 at sda17 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: jessie upgrade deemed very difficult + there is no simple way not to install konqueror
On 06/20/2017 01:26 PM, Shawn Sörbom wrote: On Monday, June 19, 2017 11:24:59 PM PDT inkbottle wrote: task-kde-desktop depends on kde-standard which depends on plasma-desktop which depends on kde-baseapps which depends on konqueror which depends on tons of difficult to understand seemingly outdated dependencies. The upgrade is very difficult In fact I give up the upgrade altogether. I'll have to come to it through another angle: There are tons of packages which I deem old and unnecessary, and I find no simple way not to install them. And there is no simple way not to install konqueror. Chris PS: Also aptitude put all automatically installed packages to satisfy dependencies in manually installed: hundreds of them. It is a very difficult upgrade. If you download the meta-package source for kde-baseapps, you could remove the konqueror dependency from the control file, bump the version number, and repack it. I know this isn't ideal, but if you are willing to invest time in the task, it is doable. Good luck, --Shawn In Synaptic this is a very easy problem to solve, in auto-remove select all packages and go to menu, package and uncheck auto-installed packages. I then run upgrade-system(uses deborphan) in the konsole to clean the mess up. Cheers, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - Linux 4.9 - EXT4 at sda15 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Qt 5.7.1 => 5.9.1
On 08/24/2017 10:03 AM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On jueves, 24 de agosto de 2017 15:58:42 -03 inkbottle wrote: On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:56:52 AM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote: Hello. Qt 5.9.1 hits unstable. Please be careful to wait till its complete. Even though <https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/qtbase-abi-5-9-0.html> and <https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/qtdeclarative-5-9-1.html> still says "partial", it appears those packages do exist for AMD64, and upgrade seems possible, as of right now... Chris Except for some KDE stuff like akonadi, so depending on what you have installed apt might want to remove stuff. We are working on it. I held 3 libc packages, everything else is cleanly upgraded. Thank you. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Qt 5.7.1 => 5.9.1
On 08/24/2017 05:12 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 08/24/2017 10:03 AM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On jueves, 24 de agosto de 2017 15:58:42 -03 inkbottle wrote: On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:56:52 AM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote: Hello. Qt 5.9.1 hits unstable. Please be careful to wait till its complete. Even though <https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/qtbase-abi-5-9-0.html> and <https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/qtdeclarative-5-9-1.html> still says "partial", it appears those packages do exist for AMD64, and upgrade seems possible, as of right now... Chris Except for some KDE stuff like akonadi, so depending on what you have installed apt might want to remove stuff. We are working on it. I held 3 libc packages, everything else is cleanly upgraded. Thank you. I have 3 extra libc6 i386 packages on this system (libc6-dev-amd64:i386, libc6-i686:i386, libc6-xen:i386) They are not on any other of my four Sid/Testing systems, they are not installed but are reported to be in my repos. Why do they not show on the other systems? I can't seem to be rid of them and they are outdated too. But now all 4 systems are up to date. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Qt 5.7.1 => 5.9.1
On 08/27/2017 03:39 PM, Rubin Abdi wrote: Just did a safe-upgrade. Everything seems to be working ok (though something is a little slow with Chrome unstable). The only issue I've noticed is widget style is stuck on Breeze. Selecting any other styles seems to not be respected. Yes, I have seen this too. So far I have been able to work around, I use Oxygen theme and apply settings as Root too. Sometimes just reapplying the settings as User will work too. Also today I send a letter to the creator of kwin crystal theme, I pray the crystal look in plasma5 will be coming. Cheers, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Warning! Current udisks2 in Sid is broken
On 08/30/2017 02:21 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Martin Steigerwald - 30.08.17, 09:07: Put the package on hold. I wonder why this bug wasn�t set to a severity that makes it show up in apt- listchanges. #873627 udisks2 in sid apparently left me with a borked system in plasma(?) https://bugs.debian.org/873627 Andreas, the maintainer of the package, just uploaded an update to fix this issue. Thanks, No, it's not fixed, current dist-upgrade orphans gdisk and plasma will not start. But if you install these packages, libblockdev-fs2 libblockdev-part2 libblockdev-mdraid2 libblockdev-crypto2 libblockdev-loop2 libblockdev-swap2 gdisk and you will be up and running again. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Qt 5.7.1 => 5.9.1
On 08/30/2017 05:15 AM, Boris Pek wrote: I may add that usage of XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP environment variable is broken now in KDE applications from Sid, and because of it they look very ugly when launched outside plasmashell or via `ssh -X ..`. For example, dolphin lacks all file icons and icons at toolbar and menus. Plus it uses some strange theme (not breeze). Dolpin looks normal in my install. Have you tried to launch it in openbox session or via ssh? `export XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=KDE` for applying proper Qt settings does not work anymore. I have just found my old email [1] and looking at [2] I hope that this problem will be fixed soon. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2016/06/msg00034.html [2] https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=plasma-integration&suite=unstable I have just rebuild plasma-integration with Qt 5.9.1 in my system and this have solved the problem for me. So when binNMU'ed packages will arrive archive the issue will gone. Boris, is that something I can do too? Do you have a recipe for the rebuild? Best wishes, Boris Cheers, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Warning! Current udisks2 in Sid is broken
On 08/30/2017 07:00 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 06:56:09AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: No, it's not fixed, current dist-upgrade orphans gdisk and plasma will not start. But are you sure you have udisks2 2.7.2-2? No, I have Sid version udisks2 2.7.2-1, why would I have a higher version? -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Warning! Current udisks2 in Sid is broken
On 08/30/2017 07:44 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 07:41:59AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: No, it's not fixed, current dist-upgrade orphans gdisk and plasma will not start. But are you sure you have udisks2 2.7.2-2? No, I have Sid version udisks2 2.7.2-1, why would I have a higher version? Because the bug is present in 2.7.2-1 and fixed in 2.7.2-2, and you commented on the message about the uploaded fix. I see, but the higher version is not in the repos, so it's not fixed!?! -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Qt 5.7.1 => 5.9.1
On 08/30/2017 07:49 AM, Boris Pek wrote: I have just rebuild plasma-integration with Qt 5.9.1 in my system and this have solved the problem for me. So when binNMU'ed packages will arrive archive the issue will gone. Boris, is that something I can do too? Do you have a recipe for the rebuild? In my system it was just: dget -d http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/plasma-integration/plasma-integration_5.8.6-1.dsc sudo cowbuilder --update sudo cowbuilder --build plasma-integration_5.8.6-1.dsc | tee build.log sudo dpkg -i /opt/pbuilder/result/plasma-integration_5.8.6-1_amd64.deb If you really want to rebuild this package in your system you need to install and properly setup pbuilder or cowbuilder first. I would need to add source packages too? But I recommend you just wait until updated package (5.8.6-1+b1) will arrive into the mirror of Debian repo which you use. I will wait, maybe tonight I will give it a go. Best wishes, Boris Thank you Boris, I'm always willing to try something new and building a package is something I have not tried yet. :) -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Warning! Current udisks2 in Sid is broken
On 08/30/2017 07:52 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 07:48:52AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: No, it's not fixed, current dist-upgrade orphans gdisk and plasma will not start. But are you sure you have udisks2 2.7.2-2? No, I have Sid version udisks2 2.7.2-1, why would I have a higher version? Because the bug is present in 2.7.2-1 and fixed in 2.7.2-2, and you commented on the message about the uploaded fix. I see, but the higher version is not in the repos, so it's not fixed!?! It is fixed, but not in repos yet. Thank you Andrey, I just want people to know what you say and that is the needed package/s are not yet in the repos and that it should be fixed soon. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Warning! Current udisks2 in Sid is broken
On 08/30/2017 10:56 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 07:52:06PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 07:48:52AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: No, it's not fixed, current dist-upgrade orphans gdisk and plasma will not start. But are you sure you have udisks2 2.7.2-2? No, I have Sid version udisks2 2.7.2-1, why would I have a higher version? Because the bug is present in 2.7.2-1 and fixed in 2.7.2-2, and you commented on the message about the uploaded fix. I see, but the higher version is not in the repos, so it's not fixed!?! It is fixed, but not in repos yet. It's now available, at least on my mirror. I got it and did another upgrade on another system, gdisk was orphaned after the dist-upgrade, so I removed it, more to see what would happen and only part of the desktop would work, so I apt install gdisk and reboot, gdisk was no longer orphaned and desktop came up complete. So even if we don't do text mode partitioning gdisk is still needed to complete the system. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Qt 5.7.1 => 5.9.1
On 08/30/2017 10:46 AM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On 30 August 2017 at 11:49, Boris Pek wrote: I have just rebuild plasma-integration with Qt 5.9.1 in my system and this have solved the problem for me. So when binNMU'ed packages will arrive archive the issue will gone. This should be the case already. It happens that qt (upstream) had some symbols wrongly marked (fixed in 5.9) and some packages where missing binNMUs. Plasma-integration upgrade is in the repos now, what where the missing packages I should look for? -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: Qt 5.7.1 => 5.9.1
On 08/30/2017 11:40 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 08/30/2017 10:46 AM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On 30 August 2017 at 11:49, Boris Pek wrote: I have just rebuild plasma-integration with Qt 5.9.1 in my system and this have solved the problem for me. So when binNMU'ed packages will arrive archive the issue will gone. This should be the case already. It happens that qt (upstream) had some symbols wrongly marked (fixed in 5.9) and some packages where missing binNMUs. Plasma-integration upgrade is in the repos now, what where the missing packages I should look for? I had wrong icons on one system, reset them and the icons where fixed. Good job, it's great to have things work! Thank you and cheers! -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
libblockdev-part2
libblockdev-part2 requires libparted2-v3.1, current libparted2 is v3.2. How is this fixed? Thank you and cheers! -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: libblockdev-part2
On 08/31/2017 09:23 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 09:04:28AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: libblockdev-part2 requires libparted2-v3.1 It doesn' Depends: libblockdev-part-err2, libblockdev-utils2, libc6 (>= 2.4), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.42.2), libparted2 (>= 3.1) Current libparted2 is >(3.2) and as both you and I see it requires (3.1) What am I not understanding here? -- Jimmy Johnson Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - KDE 4.13.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
Re: libblockdev-part2
On 08/31/2017 10:02 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 09:57:50AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: libblockdev-part2 requires libparted2-v3.1 It doesn' Depends: libblockdev-part-err2, libblockdev-utils2, libc6 (>= 2.4), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.42.2), libparted2 (>= 3.1) Current libparted2 is >(3.2) and as both you and I see it requires (3.1) What am I not understanding here? That ">=" means "greater or equal". Oh! 3.1 or better. As you can probably see, I'm trying to figure what is stopping libblockdev-part2 from being upgraded.. Thank you for your patience with me. -- Jimmy Johnson Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - KDE 4.13.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263
