On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:41:40 + Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
> In message , Joe Smith
> writes
> >Now I looka at the other extreme. In theory, with copyright if you
> >independently create a work that happens to be absolutely identical
> >(say letter by letter or pixel by pixel), without even
In message , Joe Smith
writes
Now I looka at the other extreme. In theory, with copyright if you
independently create a work that happens to be absolutely identical
(say letter by letter or pixel by pixel), without even knowing about
the other work, then the result is two works each with a sep
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Mike Hommey dijo [Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:30:58AM +0100]:
More than the trademark fair use problem, there is one of a license one:
Are these logo really free ? (keep in mind that for example, the Firefox
logo is not, what
Mike Hommey dijo [Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:30:58AM +0100]:
> More than the trademark fair use problem, there is one of a license one:
> Are these logo really free ? (keep in mind that for example, the Firefox
> logo is not, whatever the trademark status is)
Depends on its source. If I were to draw
Ben Finney dijo [Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:04:33AM +1100]:
> > I agree. What about MSN butterfly [1], ICQ flower [2], etc ?
> >
> > "ICQ, THE FLOWER LOGO, THE ICQ NETWORK and/or other ICQ products
> > referenced herein are trademarks and/or servicemarks of ICQ. […] No
> > license is granted to you in
Paul Wise wrote:
> According to the comments in one of the URLs in the initial mail in
> this thread, the author of the facebook icon specifically created it
> for pidgin-facebookchat, so I imagine they specifically licensed it
> under the GPLv3 for pidgin-facebookchat folks.
>
> http://cubestuff.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:57:12PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> Mike Hommey writes:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > > Those are (as far as I understand) published by the OpenSearch
> > > protocol, and explicitly sent using that protocol by the search
> > > prov
Mike Hommey writes:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Those are (as far as I understand) published by the OpenSearch
> > protocol, and explicitly sent using that protocol by the search
> > provider as “an image that can be used in association with this
> > search c
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:31:30PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> Those are (as far as I understand) published by the OpenSearch protocol,
> and explicitly sent using that protocol by the search provider as “an
> image that can be used in association with this search content”
> http://www.opensearch.or
(Please don't send individual copies, we read them via the list)
Mike Hommey writes:
> For example, I have serious doubts about the freeness of the search
> engine icons in iceweasel (the ones on the top right of the UI).
Those are (as far as I understand) published by the OpenSearch protocol,
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Mike Hommey wrote:
>> The pidgin-facebookchat icons seem free (GPLv3) though.
>
> Well, that's what they claim, but what is the real status ? A wild guess
> is that most icons that are present in packages have been picked from
> the web sites (or equivalent) thems
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 05:52:22PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Mike Hommey wrote:
>
> > More than the trademark fair use problem, there is one of a license one:
> > Are these logo really free ? (keep in mind that for example, the Firefox
> > logo is not, whatever th
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Mike Hommey wrote:
> More than the trademark fair use problem, there is one of a license one:
> Are these logo really free ? (keep in mind that for example, the Firefox
> logo is not, whatever the trademark status is)
The initial mail in this thread was about CC-
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 02:08:14PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> Eion Robb writes:
>
> > > There's no “fair use” in trademark law AFAIK.
> > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trademark+law+fair+use&l=1
>
> (Leads to
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use_(U.S._trademark_law)>)
>
> Okay, so it seems (according
Ben Finney wrote:
> This does, to my mind, permit using the mark to say ???this product
> supports that other product and/or service???, and doesn't need the
> trademark holder's permission.
>
> Whether other jurisdictions have a similar allowance, I don't know.
To my knowledge this is a fairly c
Eion Robb writes:
> > There's no “fair use” in trademark law AFAIK.
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trademark+law+fair+use&l=1
(Leads to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use_(U.S._trademark_law)>)
Okay, so it seems (according to Wikipedia) that the USA does recognise a
“trademark fair use”, which *does
> There's no “fair use” in trademark law AFAIK.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trademark+law+fair+use&l=1
:)
Gabriele Giacone writes:
> Eion Robb wrote:
> > You'll also want to remove the MSN/AIM/etc logos from
> > Pidgin/Empathy/etc too, since they obviously fall into the same
> > legal grey area. Unless they're considered "fair use" then
> > everything should be good to go.
There's no “fair use” in t
Eion Robb wrote:
>> I believe repacking upstream tarball to exclude logos is the way to go.
>
> You'll also want to remove the MSN/AIM/etc logos from Pidgin/Empathy/etc
> too, since they obviously fall into the same legal grey area.
> Unless they're considered "fair use" then everything should be
> I believe repacking upstream tarball to exclude logos is the way to go.
You'll also want to remove the MSN/AIM/etc logos from Pidgin/Empathy/etc
too, since they obviously fall into the same legal grey area.
Unless they're considered "fair use" then everything should be good to go.
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:53:17 +0100 Luca Falavigna wrote:
> When looking for possible sponsorship for pidgin-skype package (see
> [1], and follow-up messages), I looked at the images located under
> icons/ directory, they are very similar (if not perfectly identical) to
> Skype trademark logos, who
Hi,
Luca Falavigna wrote:
> "Skype’s trade marks and trade dress may not be used in connection
> with any product or service that is not Skype’s, in any manner that
> is likely to cause confusion among customers"
>
> pidgin-skype is a third-party software, not provided or associated
When looking for possible sponsorship for pidgin-skype package (see
[1], and follow-up messages), I looked at the images located under
icons/ directory, they are very similar (if not perfectly identical) to
Skype trademark logos, whose terms of use [2] state the following:
"Skype’s trade marks
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