Re: [RFC] Extending project standards to services linked through Vcs-*

2023-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
ion, and, eventually, deploying tag2upload. Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own. Pronouns: they/he. If I emailed you from @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.

Re: Support for non-free-firmware in project webpages

2023-02-08 Thread Ian Jackson
ader isn't going to scroll through and skimread many pages of what they will probably think is an irrelevant document. Ian. [1] I do it myself: src:dgit contains the source code for the server-side. But the deployed instance is not running from an installed copy of dgit-infrastructure..deb. -- Ian

Re: Support for non-free-firmware in project webpages

2023-01-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Bill Allombert writes ("Re: Support for non-free-firmware in project webpages"): > On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 11:41:10AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Would an MR to be more explicit about the precise code location be > > welcome? > > Actually I prefer bug reports

Re: Support for non-free-firmware in project webpages

2023-01-27 Thread Ian Jackson
larity-contest-team/popularity-contest; > Popularity-contest project by Avery Pennarun, Bill Allombert and Petter Reinholdtsen. + This page generated by https://salsa.debian.org/popularity-contest-team/popularity-contest/-/blob/master/examples/bin/popcon.pl;>examples/bin/popcon.pl + Than

Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team

2020-02-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Felix Lechner writes ("Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team"): > Hi Ian, > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 3:50 AM Ian Jackson > wrote: > > > > The BDS movement is not antisemitic. > > Please have a look at this repor

Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team

2020-02-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Ansgar writes ("Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team"): > I think the announcement by the organizers framed the conference as > being organized specifically to support the BDS movement, a movement > that is uncontroversially seen as antisemitic. They

Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

2019-10-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task"): > Ian Jackson: > > Such a small, essentially honorary, contribution wouldn't distort our > > volunteer setup, and don't need the levels of serious review and > > engag

Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

2019-09-30 Thread Ian Jackson
s of serious review and engagement that a larger amount does. But it would act as a tangible way to express that we would like to see something done and might encourage others. We could afford to make at least dozens of such honorary contributions a year. Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions

Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

2019-09-30 Thread Ian Jackson
funds to pay people for their > time. I think that crowdfunding the m68k GCC task could work. I absolutely agree with this. John, please let us know if you (or someone else) tries to do this via crowdfunding. I promise to contribute. Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own. If I emailed you from

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-09-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Sam Hartman writes ("Debian and Non-Free Services"): > I'm trying to move a thread from -devel. > > Ian Jackson responded [1] to part of a consensus discussion on Git > recommendations. I had said that I think we recommend against the use > of non-free services like

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-08-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Holger Levsen writes ("Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group"): > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:22:35PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I'm not sure why you think this isn't a thing that can be delegated ? > > mostly because it's very unusual, usually delegatio

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

2019-08-29 Thread Ian Jackson
on of "delegate" is that these are powers of the DPL. Looking at powers of the DPL: 5 Project Leader 5.1 Powers (5) Propose draft General Resolutions and amendments. I'm not sure why you think this isn't a thing that can be delegated ? Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opi

Re: Found USB stick

2019-08-21 Thread Ian Jackson
g this is not a new form of scam email. I haven't seen one like this so I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt. James, if this is genuine, thanks for your efforts and sorry to be so suspicious.) -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.n

Re: Upstream metadata to help our users contribute back to projects we redistribute. [and 1 more messages]

2019-08-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Paul Wise writes ("Re: Upstream metadata to help our users contribute back to projects we redistribute."): > https://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamMetadata Alex Muntada writes ("Re: Upstream metadata to help our users contribute back to projects we redistribute."): > We use debian/upstream/metadata

Bug#934062: Upstream metadata to help our users contribute back to projects we redistribute.

2019-08-06 Thread Ian Jackson
han for just perl packages. Yes. I think "dgit clone" should set up a remote for this automatically. (The information is useful for a lot more than contributing back: having the upstream git history, where it can be found, is often useful for bugfixing, etc.) What does pkg-perl-tools

Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL

2019-07-28 Thread Ian Jackson
he preferred form for modification - but those > don't normally have any copyright license granted (I certainly didn't > put this email under a copyright license!) so they are non-free. So that interpretation of the PFM is not compatible with upstream's practices. Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese op

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

2019-07-03 Thread Ian Jackson
ressure on > people you disagree with. That was not my intention, but now that you point it out, I can see that this is an obvious effect/interpretation. > Please, don't do that unless absolutely > necessary, you can always BCC. I will try to follow your advice, sorry. Ian. -- I

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

2019-07-03 Thread Ian Jackson
bout positive discrimination is simply untrue in at least the UK. See for example Equality Act 2010 Part II Chapter 2, "Positive action". -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.

Re: paying people for Debian work (Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas

2019-05-31 Thread Ian Jackson
was not something that would have been possible for someone without very significant standing in the project; possibly it was only possible for the DPL. Frankly, the idea that it was not an initiative of the DPL seems to me to have been an artificial distinction, contrived to allow it to go ahead with

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-21 Thread Ian Jackson
dealt with in their areas of responsibility (specifically, before or in the absence of a specific authoritative answer from that team on the issue in question). That might be illuminating. Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @ev

Re: metaphors and feminism

2019-03-31 Thread Ian Jackson
ftp team, etc. But, this is the most usual kind of authority in Debian and it is not gatekept by any kind of access control mechanism; rather like any management decision, it is a kind of authority honoured by humans rather than computers. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own. If I emailed yo

Re: metaphors and feminism

2019-03-30 Thread Ian Jackson
your key in the Debian Maintainers' keyring, so this term is very confusing. ADM = "Authorised Debian Maintainers" or "Assistant/Associate Debian Members" or something maybe ? Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.

Re: Call for experiences

2019-01-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Call for experiences of Norbert Preining"): > Very regrettably, [...] Several people whose opinions I hold in high regard have told me that this was a seriously bad idea. On an official level, I received a complaint from listmaster. So, I'm sorry. I failed

Call for experiences of Norbert Preining

2019-01-09 Thread Ian Jackson
of the provided information is still necessary, and if I consider it not any longer to be necessary, I will delete it. Ian. If you have difficulty emailing me because of my spamfilter, send the bounce to postmaster@chiark, or talk to Diziet on oftc or freenode. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions

Re: Appeal procedure for DAM actions

2019-01-09 Thread Ian Jackson
ie (since supporters only come in whole numbers) at least 5. That is close to the implied 25% of your proposal. Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.

Re: Censorship in Debian

2019-01-08 Thread Ian Jackson
t; particularly strong Debian alternative for servers? I'm not running it myself. All I've done is had (positive) interations with Devuan developers and looked and (and borrowed) some of their source code. So I'm afraid you'll have to evaluate that for yourself. Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opin

Re: Censorship in Debian

2019-01-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Miles Fidelman writes ("Re: Censorship in Debian"): > I've basically been nursing a couple of aging systems.  When next I do a > major upgrade to our server farm, It will be to something other than > Debian.  Until then, the pressure hasn't been there, and I've been - > I've been waiting and

Re: Censorship in Debian

2019-01-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Martin Steigerwald writes ("Re: Censorship in Debian"): > Ian Jackson - 05.01.19, 18:17: > > Very competently toxic people will calculate precisely what they can > > get away with: they will ride roughshod over weak victims or in > > situations with less visibility;

Re: Censorship in Debian

2019-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
erious consequence. Maybe the next community they get involved with will find them a more positive influence, and easier to deal with. And at least the community they were ejected from is spared the work of educating (and fighting) the unwilling. Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own

Re: Planet Debian revisions [and 1 more messages]

2019-01-04 Thread Ian Jackson
mailing list would be better since it would let us expire the archives. Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.

Re: On Mediation and Warnings

2019-01-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Norbert Preining writes ("On Mediation and Warnings"): > What I want to make clear that I have received in total > 5 (five) > personal messages from DPL/DAM/AH Teams: You are implying (while carefully avoiding saying it directly) that until the DAM decision, you didn't know that many people

Re: Support WKD (and WKS) for @debian.org email addresses?

2018-11-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Guilhem Moulin writes ("Re: Support WKD (and WKS) for @debian.org email addresses?"): > On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 at 18:20:16 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Personally I think the hash is bizarre. Why make this protocol depend > > on an obsolete hash function ? One could

Re: Support WKD (and WKS) for @debian.org email addresses?

2018-11-07 Thread Ian Jackson
W. Martin Borgert writes ("Support WKD (and WKS) for @debian.org email addresses?"): > One way to help senders getting the real receivers key is WKD (web key > directory). That is one HTTPS URL per email address, e.g. a static > directory with PGP key files. (See https://wiki.gnupg.org/WKD) This

Re: Bits from the Debian Anti-harassment team

2018-11-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Laura Arjona Reina writes ("Bits from the Debian Anti-harassment team"): > In order to help the Debian community understand the community health > and status of the Anti-harassment team, we will be sending out regular > small reports. Thank you. Inevitably the project don't generally directly

Re: Do we need embargoes for GPL compliance issues?

2018-09-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Ben Hutchings writes ("Re: Do we need embargoes for GPL compliance issues?"): > As you may know, an individual copyright holder in the Linux kernel is > understood to have succesfully sued various infringing companies Bet you a dime to a dollar that these same infringing companies are vigorously

Re: Do we need embargoes for GPL compliance issues?

2018-09-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Do we need embargoes for GPL compliance issues?"): > I think it was entirely wrong of the Conservancy's Linux GPL > enforcement project to go along with the idea of promising to give > violators a GPLv3-style termination clause. Needless to

Re: Do we need embargoes for GPL compliance issues?

2018-09-12 Thread Ian Jackson
PLv2 termination) if the GPLv2-violator is willing to behave in a way that would comply with GPLv3 within the GPLv3 30-day period. Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.

Re: Article 13 of the EU copyright review

2018-06-05 Thread Ian Jackson
As a general rule, I woud support any of their campaigns. (I have a number of their excellent T-shirts too.) NB that FSFE are quite are a different thing to the FSF, although, obviously, they are allies. Ian. -- Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.ne

Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up

2018-05-24 Thread Ian Jackson
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up"): > Le 03/05/2018 à 13:30, Ian Jackson a écrit : > > Martin Michlmayr writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI > > heads-up"): > >>> Ian Jackso

Re: Request for official help

2018-05-03 Thread Ian Jackson
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"): > Yes I understand. Just keep in mind that the letter is not public, just > for amazon staff. But well, I propose we try without explicit name and > see wether it is enough for Amazon. I was thinking we would put it on our website.

Re: Request for official help

2018-05-03 Thread Ian Jackson
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"): > I saw the topic in quite progress last weeks ago. When do you think I could > get > a signed letter, ideally mentioning explicitly Hypra? I don't think it's likely that we would want to explicitly mention anyone in particular. Is

Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up

2018-05-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Martin Michlmayr writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up"): > > Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> [2018-05-02 16:42]: > > > I'll discuss with the SPI board. > > > > When should we expect to hear from you ? > &g

Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up

2018-05-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Martin Michlmayr writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up"): > I'll discuss with the SPI board. When should we expect to hear from you ? Thanks, Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. If I emailed

Re: UEFI Secure Boot sprint report

2018-04-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Tollef Fog Heen writes ("UEFI Secure Boot sprint report"): > In the end, we decided to have a signing service which will construct > a source package based on a "template" package and a list of files to > sign and upload this to be processed by the normal buildd and dak > processes. The signing

Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up

2018-04-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Alvaro Herrera writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up"): > Ian Jackson wrote: > > There's one bugfix: "the the" should read "the". > > No bugfix for "anticpate" or "predjudice"? Thanks for the proofr

Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up

2018-04-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Martin Michlmayr writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up"): > Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> [2018-04-19 13:53]: > > SPI: are you willing to have the SPI Secretary sign this letter ? If > > Just to make sure we're on the

Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up

2018-04-19 Thread Ian Jackson
with > your name at the bottom. > > (Happy to sign it too if that's needed or helpful for whatever > reason.) It might make it more convincing if you were to sign it, indeed. I will wait a bit now to see what SPI says. Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up

2018-04-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up"): > We (Debian, me specifically) are about to ask Free Software > Conservancy for legal advice - specifically whether there is anything > wrong with this proposed letter. I am picking this up again now

Re: Request for official help

2018-04-19 Thread Ian Jackson
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"): > Did I miss something about this topic? Any news? I'm sorry, I dropped this. Please do hassle me if you don't hear more in the next week. Ian.

Re: Conflict escalation and discipline

2018-04-18 Thread Ian Jackson
ly thinks they want - punishment for the wrongdoer. And, of course, stick: if you post to d-devel anyway then your own behaviour will be scrutinised by that some body, and will be officially looked on unfavourably (rather than just get you dogpiled). I'm going to let other people drive this conversation for a whil

Re: Conflict escalation and discipline

2018-04-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Conflict escalation and discipline"): > "Debian emotional support group", maybe. I find this suggestion very surprising, possibly even insulting. At the very least I need to be much clearer. > But maybe wait with the naming until there's a clear description of > what

Re: Conflict escalation and discipline

2018-04-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Conflict escalation and discipline"): > Most of the problems being discussed right now, and in general, seem > to be of the sort where feelings are hurt, but harassment isn't > happening. The situations seem to be "A did something, and B was > offended, how do we get A

Re: Conflict escalation and discipline

2018-04-18 Thread Ian Jackson
existing institutions. I wonder if I should propose a GR. That would provide a way of testing whether my ideas (which do seem controversial) are more widely held, and also if the GR passes, give clear legitimacy to the new team. Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These op

Re: Conflict escalation and discipline

2018-04-18 Thread Ian Jackson
the case. > > I also am reluctant to speak for Ian (!) but I believe he is making > the point that it is this very diversity of contact points that > could be part of the problem. Yes. Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own.

Re: Conflict escalation and discipline

2018-04-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) writes ("Re: Conflict escalation and discipline"): > On 2018-04-17 14:39, Ian Jackson wrote: > > We desperately need: > > > > * Somewhere people can escalate a dispute involving ill-feeling, > >that isn't debian-devel[0] or

Conflict escalation and discipline

2018-04-17 Thread Ian Jackson
, or whoever, were expected to follow. Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.

Re: Problems with source DVDs.

2018-03-07 Thread Ian Jackson
s happening to these ISOs. I doubt that any of *Debian's* competitors would bother with such shenanigans, but we ship an enormous variety of software, at least some of which must have unscrupulous competitors. Ian. (sad that the world has come to this kind of state) -- Ian Jackson <

Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee

2017-12-28 Thread Ian Jackson
s a very workable approach for disagreements over whether software X or Y is better. (For whatever value of "better") Offer both and let people decide for themselves. When things start to get really emotional and heated is when people feel (rightly or wrongly) that such choices are being curt

technical terms (Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main)

2017-12-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Holger Levsen writes ("technical terms (Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main)"): > On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 04:06:43PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > (Your logic would argue that browser porn mode is basically > > pointless.) > > I did

Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main

2017-12-07 Thread Ian Jackson
t week ? No. (Your logic would argue that browser porn mode is basically pointless.) Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.

Re: Automatically marking downloaded files (was Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main)

2017-12-07 Thread Ian Jackson
ot; but does if the > file type is downloaded. > > * I wasn't successful in doing this on a tmpfs - perhaps there are > additional runes to add to the mount options that would make that possible. Can we have a single place to enable/disable this behaviour ? I think it should be disab

Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main

2017-12-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Paul R. Tagliamonte writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main"): > I hilariously discovered this last night as well (playing with IMA), and > removing the creation of that attr would be a huge step back. > > Restricting the execution of files one downloads or

Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main

2017-12-01 Thread Ian Jackson
hey have decided that they agree with those downstreams' very zealous objection to non-free software, including firmware etc. I propose to help those users, and those downstream developers, by doing some more of the work in Debian. Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main

2017-12-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Enrico Zini writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main"): > On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 08:22:58PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > [Ian Jackson:] > > > Debian ought to be a good upstream for everyone, not just "me" > > &

Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main

2017-12-01 Thread Ian Jackson
(Dropping the crossposts. The stuff I want to reply to is probably material for -project.) Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main"): > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 01:52:18PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I would like to establi

Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main

2017-11-30 Thread Ian Jackson
be minimal effort for a package maintainer to opt into). (The question is: how do we stop a Postscript file received by email being rendered automatically when the user clicks on it, while allowing the user to still open a Postscript file they generated themselves ?) Ian. -- Ian Jack

Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages]

2017-11-15 Thread Ian Jackson
raid I am not volunteering to implement or maintain it :-/. Regards, Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.

Re: Debian banners

2017-11-15 Thread Ian Jackson
, you could ship it to me. Perhaps Debian wants to pay for the shipping out of Debian funds. Please contact me by private email for the right shipping address. Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @

Emeritus status, and email forwarding

2017-11-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Someone who was sort-of-MIA said on -private that they would like to keep their @debian.org email forwarding indefinitely, as they move to emeritus status. I think that, with some safeguards[1], this would be a good thing to offer people. If nothing else people have often used @d.o addresses in

Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee

2017-11-02 Thread Ian Jackson
ons of politics: they concern the balance of competing interests, and the location and scope of power and control. Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.

Re: Appropriate escalation (or non-escalation) re rude emails

2017-11-02 Thread Ian Jackson
also take that up with the > listmasters. > So, you can send mails promptly without seeking review, provided the > other listmasters are OK with that. Yes. Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net

Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee

2017-10-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Sam Hartman writes ("Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee"): > I am discussing how we handle conflict because I hope we can do a better > job of helping people feel valued even when we do not agree with their > technical positions. You've

Appropriate escalation (or non-escalation) re rude emails

2017-10-25 Thread Ian Jackson
t what might be seen as mild misbehaviour. And if I see someone being rude directly to another contributor, but CC'd to the public, it feels odd to be reporting that to the antiharassment team. Do I need to have standing ? Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These

Re: Bitcoin donations

2017-10-25 Thread Ian Jackson
ore centrally provided things like accepting donations are a different matter. Everyone should read David's book. Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which

Re: Project to improve Debian support model

2017-10-22 Thread Ian Jackson
ntion here https://github.com/kathryntolsen/diss/wiki/DISS-Diagnostic-Trees that you were planning to use XML as a metadata format. Debian has long disfavoured XML for these kinds of uses (for good technical reasons). I hope this is helpful and good luck. Regards, Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ij

Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up

2017-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Joshua D. Drake writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up"): > On 08/31/2017 07:19 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Debian would like to sign, jointly with SPI, a letter stating that we > > do not intend to apply for EANs. A draft of the letter is belo

Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up

2017-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Guillem Jover writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up"): > I'm not sure whether this is splitting hairs, but wouldn't issuing a > letter stating those 2 years make any similar request in the near > future that demands a 2 years span, require reissuing a new letter? >

Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up

2017-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
which an EAN or UPC exemption is requested must be New. Please find more info about those EAN exemptions requests by clicking on the following link: *** No answer is require from your side, but if you have further questions concerning your sales, please never hesitate to contact *** again

Re: Reasons for having DPL election terms 1 year

2017-08-30 Thread Ian Jackson
shirish शिरीष writes ("Reasons for having DPL election terms 1 year"): > My query how did the idea of having yearly elections for choosing DPL > come in place. This was my doing. And, TBH, I don't think I considered other options very seriously, although I haven't searched my email archives. (I

Re: wanted: educate us please on key dongles

2017-08-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Marc Haber writes ("Re: wanted: educate us please on key dongles"): > That's a point, but I cannot validate whether the free hardware > design running the free software crypto app isn't backdoored anyway due > to lack of knowledge and expertise. You don't need to be able to validate it

Re: Request for official help

2017-07-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve McIntyre writes ("Re: Request for official help"): > Looks good to me, but agreed also on the lawyer front. Chris, could you please either nonexclusively delegate this issue to me, or authorise me to contact Debian's lawers, and SPI, on Debian's behalf, to ask them to review this letter (or

Re: Request for official help

2017-07-31 Thread Ian Jackson
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"): > Here is the mail I could get in English. It sums up the situation. Thanks. This is very helpful. As far as I can see: * Amazon seem to be concerned that products should not be sold on Amazon without an EAN, if the

Re: Request for official help

2017-07-31 Thread Ian Jackson
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"): > Le 25/07/2017 à 20:36, Ian Jackson a écrit : > > Henrique, can you please point me to the documentation about these > > exemption letters ? I continue to think that this is perhaps the > > right route

Re: Request for official help

2017-07-27 Thread Ian Jackson
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"): > Is it a problem if it is a French message? I'll cope somehow :-). Ian.

Re: Request for official help

2017-07-27 Thread Ian Jackson
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"): > Le 25/07/2017 à 23:59, Ian Jackson a écrit : > > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"): > > Can you please point me to the documentation you are reading about >

Re: Request for official help

2017-07-25 Thread Ian Jackson
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"): > The alternative is my initial proposal, more simple than others indeed: > mentioning in an official letter that Debian will not get any EAN in > next two years, and that Debian does not want Hypra to sell Debian > without EAN. It

Re: Request for official help

2017-07-25 Thread Ian Jackson
our allocation. I'd also be interested to see what approach is taken for physical prints of 3D models, which have certain similarities to (say) Debian DVDs in this context. Thanks, Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an

Re: Request for official help

2017-07-20 Thread Ian Jackson
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"): > Any vendor then has threee solutions: > > 1. Getting from Debian an official letter (see attached template) to > say: a) we don't want any seller to send Debian without an EAN on a > marketplace; b) we will not get our own EANs in

Re: DEP 15: Reserved namespace for DD-approved non-maintainer changes

2017-06-07 Thread Ian Jackson
on d-devel (which is the > Reply-to for this e-mail). The canonical DEP text is at > <http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep15/>. > > The drivers are myself and Ian Jackson, who came up with the idea, but I > said I'd write up the formal proposal. Thanks, Sean. For others: this was prompte

Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-17 Thread Ian Jackson
chine would have passed the certification, except that the wifi card requires a separately supplied firmware blob from Debian non-free" would be extremely useful to many users and potential purchasers. I wonder if we could have a certification level (and associated name, logo, e

Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Paul Wise writes ("Re: If Debian support OS certification?"): > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > If we made such a decision, I'd be very supportive of it. We could make > > it in a "soft" way, ie tell that we accept some kind of (re-occurring?) > > sponsorship, and

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Paul Wise writes ("Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests"): > Perhaps what we need is a a culture of awareness of our own personal > potential conflicts of interest and guidelines for disclosure (where > relevant) and examples of conduct that is not appropriate. Yes. > Personally, I

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests"): Ian Jackson : > > From Debian's point of view: I think that anyone who takes prolonged > > employment with an organisation which takes an active interest in > > their Debian work, to the extent o

Re: should debian comment about the recent 'ransomware' malware.

2017-05-16 Thread Ian Jackson
I agree with your conclusion that we shouldn't make a public statement trying to capitalise on this, but: Russ Allbery writes ("Re: should debian comment about the recent 'ransomware' malware."): > This is not a case where Microsoft did something clearly wrong, or even > differently than we

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-15 Thread Ian Jackson
ther programs, the operator of chiark, and so on, is all public anyway. A register of interests ought not to be a list of everyone's software projects, nor of all of their hobbies. Ian. -- Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> These opinions are my own. If I emailed you

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes ("Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests"): > That said, I still think that there are situations in which declaring one's > conflicts of interest _does_ matter, but I do expect the affected individual > to > either explcitly retract (or stay away) from the

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Jonathan Dowland writes ("Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests"): > I'm not sure how to word it but I felt that it was appropriate to > disclose that I work for Red Hat (Even though I do not work on RHEL > or Fedora), since Red Hat produces something "similar" to Debian, or > more

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > However in the interests of transparency I feel that a voluntary, > opt-in "Register of Interests" is a good idea for the project. I feel > that such a list (populated) would demonstrate the transparency and > openness that are part of our project's

Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution of documentation and CoC

2017-04-06 Thread Ian Jackson
shirish शिरीष writes ("Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution of documentation and CoC"): > Please CC me as I'm not subscribed to the mailing list. Please excuse > the non-brievity of the mail. > > Couple of weeks back, I put up a blog post >

Re: contacting Debian is too easy to get wrong

2017-03-21 Thread Ian Jackson
Ritesh Raj Sarraf writes ("Re: contacting Debian is too easy to get wrong"): > When a user asks for a question, most usually end up on a web > forum. Developers mostly prefer monitoring hand-picked mailing lists > only. That's where the disconnect is, in my opinion. > > What we need is to relate

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