l'année en musique

2017-01-01 Thread bernard schoenacker
bonjour, puisque c'est mort sur la liste, j'ai trouvé un morceau de musique de circonstance : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7xSrj528Dk bonne écoute slt bernard -- bernard schoenacker

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 January 2017 00:51:11 Jape Person wrote: > On 01/01/2017 09:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 01 January 2017 20:31:00 Jape Person wrote: > >> On 01/01/2017 07:38 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > >>> I got a Brother printer to work by installing both the debian > >>> packages from the

Re: two graphics cards and two monitors

2017-01-01 Thread Teemu Likonen
jurek [2017-01-01 22:03:57+01] wrote: > How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I have > Nvidia gtx 650 ti boost and Nvidia gt 240 card. See "xrandr" command's output. It may already show your display outputs. If so, then maybe something like: xrandr --output HDMI-0

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-01 Thread Jape Person
On 01/01/2017 09:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 01 January 2017 20:31:00 Jape Person wrote: On 01/01/2017 07:38 PM, Joel Rees wrote: I got a Brother printer to work by installing both the debian packages from the repos and the deb from Brother's website, but the scanner still isn't

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-01 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 02/01/17 13:38, Joel Rees wrote: I got a Brother printer to work by installing both the debian packages from the repos and the deb from Brother's website, but the scanner still isn't being found. Running Wheezy. Would anyone care to tell me what steps they took to get scan functionality on

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 01 January 2017 20:31:00 Jape Person wrote: > On 01/01/2017 07:38 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > > I got a Brother printer to work by installing both the debian > > packages from the repos and the deb from Brother's website, but the > > scanner still isn't being found. > > > > Running Wheezy. >

INTERIM Resolution - was [Re: Trouble shooting a "thinkfan" problem on a Lenovo T430 Thinkpad]

2017-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/1/2017 9:55 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/31/2016 8:50 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: One thing that continues to bother me is that thinkfan is disabled by default because an improper parameter could damage the computer. If that is true, why isn't the fan always on? The documentation I've

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-01 Thread Jape Person
On 01/01/2017 07:38 PM, Joel Rees wrote: I got a Brother printer to work by installing both the debian packages from the repos and the deb from Brother's website, but the scanner still isn't being found. Running Wheezy. Would anyone care to tell me what steps they took to get scan

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-01 Thread Igor Cicimov
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > I got a Brother printer to work by installing both the debian packages > from the repos and the deb from Brother's website, but the scanner > still isn't being found. > > Running Wheezy. > > Would anyone care to tell me

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-01 Thread Felix Miata
Joel Rees composed on 2017-01-02 09:38 (UTC+0900): I got a Brother printer to work by installing both the debian packages from the repos and the deb from Brother's website, but the scanner still isn't being found. Running Wheezy. Would anyone care to tell me what steps they took to get

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?

2017-01-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 02 January 2017 01:00:56 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 01 January 2017 14:46:30 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I cannot recall ever seeing a more complete information about > > > anything I ever looked up, telling me something that wasn't in the > > >

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?

2017-01-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 01 January 2017 14:46:30 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I cannot recall ever seeing a more complete information about > > anything I ever looked up, telling me something that wasn't in the > > man page. > > Compare > man ls > and > info ls > > The chapter of

Re: [OT] Antikythera mechanism [was Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?]

2017-01-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 January 2017 23:48:47 Joel Rees wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 1:10 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 01 January 2017 14:54:09 Joel Rees wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Miles Fidelman > >> > >> wrote: > >> > On

brother printer/scanners

2017-01-01 Thread Joel Rees
I got a Brother printer to work by installing both the debian packages from the repos and the deb from Brother's website, but the scanner still isn't being found. Running Wheezy. Would anyone care to tell me what steps they took to get scan functionality on their Brother multifunction printers?

Re: Bug#1 Freeze

2017-01-01 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 11/09/2016 12:20 AM, newbee...@nativobject.net wrote: Le 09/11/2016 à 04:14, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : On 11/07/2016 04:44 AM, Tim Ruehsen wrote: With latest updates made today: From time to time, KDE freezes. Any idea ? Hi, If it's an Intel video card and the kernel is 4.8 downgrade the

Re: [OT] on education [was]: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Joel Rees
I know you are trying to EOT this, but, from someone trying to teach high school English, ... On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > Le duodi 12 nivôse, an CCXXV, deloptes a écrit : >> No time to discuss too long with you > > [...] > The truth is that the level

Re: debugging KVM connections

2017-01-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 01/01/17 06:09 PM, Bob Weber wrote: Windows is another story. You can't just change video cards since you might trigger Windows wanting to be authorized again. I found logs for each VM in /var/log/libvirt/qemu. Is that where you were looking? Yes. The log on the remote host is

Re: [OT] Antikythera mechanism [was Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?]

2017-01-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 1:10 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 01 January 2017 14:54:09 Joel Rees wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Miles Fidelman >> >> wrote: > >> > On 12/30/16 7:07 PM, deloptes wrote: > No, I wrote that. Somebody

Re: debugging KVM connections

2017-01-01 Thread Bob Weber
Windows is another story. You can't just change video cards since you might trigger Windows wanting to be authorized again. I found logs for each VM in /var/log/libvirt/qemu. Is that where you were looking? *...Bob* On 01/01/2017 05:36 PM, Gary Dale wrote: > On 01/01/17 05:18 PM, Bob

Re: [OT] on education [was]: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 12 nivôse, an CCXXV, deloptes a écrit : > No time to discuss too long with you Well, if you took time to find exact pointers rather than links to a huge website and a 80+ pages document, you would realize you cannot find anything to support the theory that the average level has decreased

Re: debugging KVM connections

2017-01-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 01/01/17 05:18 PM, Bob Weber wrote: I've had a similar problem after an xorg update on a VM running with the QXL video display. I downgrade the xorg packages and all is well. If you are not running X then this may not help you. You might try another video display like VMVGA. Have

Re: debugging KVM connections

2017-01-01 Thread Bob Weber
I've had a similar problem after an xorg update on a VM running with the QXL video display. I downgrade the xorg packages and all is well. If you are not running X then this may not help you. You might try another video display like VMVGA. Have you tried ssh into the VM after the viewer

debugging KVM connections

2017-01-01 Thread Gary Dale
I'm trying to track down a problem I'm having connecting to a remote virtual machine (that may or may not actually work). I have the router directing ssh traffic to the actual machine the virtual machine is running on. Virt-manager is able to make the connection to the remote machine and

Re: two graphics cards and two monitors

2017-01-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 01/01/17 04:03 PM, jurek wrote: How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I have Nvidia gtx 650 ti boost and Nvidia gt 240 card. nouveau version : xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.11-1 amd64 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver lspci -v | grep NVIDIA 01:00.0

Re: two graphics cards and two monitors

2017-01-01 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2017-01-01 22:03 +0100, jurek wrote: > How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I > have Nvidia gtx 650 ti boost and Nvidia gt 240 card. I'm not quite sure why you use such a setup, a single card would be fine for two monitors. Anyway, please consult the Nouveau

two graphics cards and two monitors

2017-01-01 Thread jurek
How to use two graphics cards and two monitors on nouveau driver.I have Nvidia gtx 650 ti boost and Nvidia gt 240 card. nouveau version : xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.11-1 amd64 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver lspci -v | grep NVIDIA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA

Re: Probleem met HP Envy 5644 all-in-one printer/scanner/copier

2017-01-01 Thread Leesbaar Archief
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 10:06:39PM +, Harrie Boekemans wrote: > Op za 31 dec. 2016 om 17:23 schreef Bart Vliegen: > > Op 31 december 2016 om 16:15 schreef Paul van der Vlis: > > > > Op 31-12-16 om 15:25 schreef Bart Vliegen: > > >> Hallo, > > >> > > >> Ik heb het volgende probleem met mijn HP

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?

2017-01-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Xen wrote: > [...]; call it the Linux Support Arena, or the Linux Support Agenda > even, people on the side take on the customer support role of filtering. > They act like they try to get the complainer off of the back of the > developer of writer, much like front-desk personnel often does.

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?

2017-01-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > I cannot recall ever seeing a more complete information about > anything I ever looked up, telling me something that wasn't in the man > page. Compare man ls and info ls The chapter of ls in coreutils.info is much longer than the man page. It gives some

Re: Lisi's killfile

2017-01-01 Thread deloptes
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 1/1/2017 12:35 PM, Xen wrote: " " > *PLONK* Thank you for not doing this to me (my posts) ... I am now sure I am not that pathetic as Xen is :D

[OT] on education [was]: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread deloptes
Nicolas George wrote: > Without objective evidence of that "fact", you are just another old > geezer who complains about today's youth. I'll let it to your imagination and will to find the truth, but here are some interesting facts https://www.ei-ie.org example how IMF is dealing with education

Re: [OT] Antikythera mechanism [was Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?]

2017-01-01 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, January 01, 2017 11:10:20 AM Lisi Reisz wrote: > C itself, of course, is MUCH later than Colossus, And, there were a lot of languages before C.

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
deloptes schreef op 01-01-2017 14:09: Xen wrote: And what is that supposed to mean? You are really acting like a child now. LOL - she makes fun of you - you just have to stop. I am not reading your comments any more - there is no value in them. One last thing before I unsubscribe again.

Re: not possible to install apt-transport-https package on jessie

2017-01-01 Thread John Naggets
Thanks Pascal for your hints. Indeed I had to comment out the gluster repository which is forwarding HTTP to HTTPS, then re-run apt-cache update, install apt-transport-https and finally modify the gluster repository source to directly use HTTPS. That was an interesting case ;) On Fri, Dec 30,

Re: [OT] Antikythera mechanism [was Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?]

2017-01-01 Thread deloptes
Lisi Reisz wrote: > So something that can't be programmed with anything that looks like a full > C compiler is not a computer???  So Colossus was not a computer?? :-) > > C itself, of course, is MUCH later than Colossus, > > C was originally developed by Dennis Ritchie between 1969 and 1973 >

Re: Lisi's killfile

2017-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/1/2017 12:35 PM, Xen wrote: " " *PLONK*

Lisi's killfile

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
Lisi thought she had to go through the effort of personally telling me she has used some Exim killfile or something of the kind to give my emails special treatment, but maybe she just uses Gmail for that, I don't know. I guess that means I get to say things about her that she won't hear.

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
Eike Lantzsch schreef op 01-01-2017 17:58: Interestingly enough the motto of 33. Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg was: "Works for me". They aimed at getting programmers out of their lethargy because their software not only has to "work for them" but also for everybody else. An

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
Thomas Schmitt schreef op 01-01-2017 14:10: From the viewpoint of "info" programmers it is obvious that you first have to learn how to use it before you can draw benefit from it. But the particular user has a particular need to get information about a particular complex of problems. No

SOLVED Re: Preventing ACL on cdrom drive...

2017-01-01 Thread Nimrod
On Wed, 2016-12-28 at 13:42 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 28/12/2016 à 11:19, Nimrod a écrit : > > > >> I guess I have to specify suitable permission in the above file. I > >> tried with: > >> > >> ENV{ID_FS_USAGE}=="filesystem|other|crypto", > >> ENV{UDISKS_FILESYSTEM_SHARED}="1",

Re: jessie: ALSA fails on first use after reboot

2017-01-01 Thread Michael Luecke
D. R. Evans wrote: D. R. Evans wrote: Is there some way to find out what process is using ALSA when snd_pcm_open() returns that error? (If indeed there is such a process.) Still, if anyone has any suggestions as to how to discover what is going on, I'd appreciate it. I'm not a great fan of

Re: productivity tips

2017-01-01 Thread Linux-Fan
[Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:10:22 -0500] kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > Would you like to share some Debian tips that made a significant > impact to your productivity in 2016? Things that you wish you had > known earlier. Well, it is probably not very ``productive'' but still

Re: jessie: ALSA fails on first use after reboot

2017-01-01 Thread D. R. Evans
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/28/2016 04:18 PM: > I have a 32-bit system running jessie that gives the following error the > first time that I try to use ALSA following a reboot: ERROR: Cannot open > audio device: hw:0,0 error number -16 Device or resource busy > > It doesn't seem to matter how long I

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?

2017-01-01 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Sunday, 1 January 2017 12:36:51 PYST Xen wrote: > Thomas Schmitt schreef op 31-12-2016 11:59: > > Well, "info" is the pet of GNU and thus often better documentation for > > GNU tools than their "man" pages. > > The goal and viewpoint is nevertheless the same: Technical > > documentation > > of

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
deloptes schreef op 01-01-2017 14:09: Xen wrote: And what is that supposed to mean? You are really acting like a child now. LOL - she makes fun of you - you just have to stop. I am not reading your comments any more - there is no value in them. She was not making fun of me. She was just

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 12 nivôse, an CCXXV, deloptes a écrit : > The fact is that education > and scientific success declined after WWII worldwide Without objective evidence of that "fact", you are just another old geezer who complains about today's youth.

Re: [OT] Antikythera mechanism [was Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?]

2017-01-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 January 2017 14:54:09 Joel Rees wrote: > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Miles Fidelman > > wrote: > > On 12/30/16 7:07 PM, deloptes wrote: No, I wrote that. > >>> In what way is the Antikythera mechanism not a computer? And where did > >>> your 400

Re: Trouble shooting a "thinkfan" problem on a Lenovo T430 Thinkpad

2017-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/31/2016 8:50 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: One thing that continues to bother me is that thinkfan is disabled by default because an improper parameter could damage the computer. If that is true, why isn't the fan always on? The documentation I've found indicates it's original motivation was

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread deloptes
Nicolas George wrote: > Le duodi 12 nivôse, an CCXXV, deloptes a écrit : >> this is not true. Europe and US including Russia had exponential growth >> during the 18-19century. This all was killed by the FED and the layers, >> through the revolutions and the marxist-communists, who are now called

Re: productivity tips

2017-01-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 09:37:08AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > All emacs info pages are in a if I remember emacs-common-nondfsg Thanks, Jude. Good point, which I missed. There's a license incopatibility between the FSF's documentation license and

Re: [OT] Antikythera mechanism [was Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?]

2017-01-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Talk about a thread going South! (Perhaps we can get back to bashing > systemd?) There's a chuckle. > On 12/30/16 7:07 PM, deloptes wrote: >>> >>> In what way is the Antikythera mechanism not a computer? And

Re: productivity tips

2017-01-01 Thread Jude DaShiell
All emacs info pages are in a if I remember emacs-common-nondfsg file and once those are installed if you know how to use info you ought to be up and running pretty quickly. On Sun, 1 Jan 2017, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2017 07:49:33 From: to...@tuxteam.de To:

Re: productivity tips

2017-01-01 Thread Jude DaShiell
loads of youtube videos, and those if produced correctly can be more effective than howtos especially for visual learners. On Sun, 1 Jan 2017, Richard Owlett wrote: Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2017 06:57:03 From: Richard Owlett To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re:

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?

2017-01-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 01 January 2017 06:36:51 Xen wrote: > Thomas Schmitt schreef op 31-12-2016 11:59: > > Well, "info" is the pet of GNU and thus often better documentation > > for GNU tools than their "man" pages. > > The goal and viewpoint is nevertheless the same: Technical > > documentation > > of

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 12 nivôse, an CCXXV, deloptes a écrit : > this is not true. Europe and US including Russia had exponential growth > during the 18-19century. This all was killed by the FED and the layers, > through the revolutions and the marxist-communists, who are now called > green party or alike, but

Re: productivity tips

2017-01-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 07:36:29AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 1/1/2017 6:49 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > >Getting started on Emacs can be pretty daunting [...] > Any worse than Digital Equipment's TECO circa 1970? I don't think so.

Re: productivity tips

2017-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/1/2017 6:49 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 05:57:03AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: On 1/1/2017 5:45 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 01:02:41AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: emacs has org-mode built-in

Re: Profile? - Installationsfragen

2017-01-01 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2017, 13:58:06 CET schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: Hi Tomas, I am very sorry, as I sent this mail to the wrong list. As I was unconcentrated I clicked on the wrong sender address in my mail client. So please excuse the noise. Have a nice new year and happy hacking! Best Hans

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread deloptes
Xen wrote: > And what is that supposed to mean? You are really acting like a child > now. LOL - she makes fun of you - you just have to stop. I am not reading your comments any more - there is no value in them.

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?

2017-01-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Xen wrote: > I personally also cannot use "info". I have tried many times in the past. That's why i fulfill the requirement of GNU to have an info documentation by writing a single .texi document for both, info and man. (This needs a specialized postprocessor to derive .1 from .texi .) The

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread deloptes
Nicolas George wrote: > Considering people have been saying exactly that for every period of > time since the Antiquity, and the literacy rate then was less than > 20%... I will leave you draw your own conclusions. this is not true. Europe and US including Russia had exponential growth during

Re: Profile? - Installationsfragen

2017-01-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 01:39:02PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Hallo Liste, frohes neues Jahr! Hallo. Das ist eine englischsprachige Mailingliste. Die meisten werden Dich also nicht verstehen. (hello. this is an English speaking mailing list. Most people

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
Xen schreef op 01-01-2017 13:18: "and that you wanted your specific solution laid out for you in the man page instead of figuring it out yourself" and "should abandon the noob mindset". Those are just insults to begin with and they ARE ad hominems in actual fact. And I just want to

Re: productivity tips

2017-01-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 05:57:03AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 1/1/2017 5:45 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > >On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 01:02:41AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >>emacs has org-mode built-in and org-mode is probably one of the >

Profile? - Installationsfragen

2017-01-01 Thread Hans
Hallo Liste, frohes neues Jahr! Ich arbeite mich gerade in Skolelinux ein. Insbesondere hat eine reibungsfreie Installation für mich momentan Priorität. Dabei bin ich auf einige Probleme gestoßen. Vielleicht kann ja jemand etwas Klarheit reinbringen. Ich beschreibe einfach mal: 1. Bei der

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
Lisi Reisz schreef op 01-01-2017 13:00: On Sunday 01 January 2017 11:52:20 Xen wrote: Lisi Reisz schreef op 31-12-2016 10:30: > Which make me bad at writing? > > Lisi Refusing to write good documentation on purpose. "%(&_++**!& And what is that supposed to mean? You are really acting like

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
Lisi Reisz schreef op 31-12-2016 10:37: Yes, I know, I am not good at it. That makes you insincere as well because you do not even agree with what you say, you do not even agree with your own wisdom. You do one thing and say another, which makes me feel you realize *deep down* that I am

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2017-01-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 05:14:50PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 31 Dec 2016 at 10:35:02 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Calculemus, as Leibnitz said. A bit of experimental informatics: Mpfh. Seems I was a bit boisterous here :)

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 January 2017 11:52:20 Xen wrote: > Lisi Reisz schreef op 31-12-2016 10:30: > > Which make me bad at writing? > > > > Lisi > > Refusing to write good documentation on purpose. "%(&_++**!& Lisi

Re: productivity tips

2017-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/1/2017 5:45 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 01:02:41AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: emacs has org-mode built-in and org-mode is probably one of the older mind mappers available for download. +1 on org mode. Especially org-babel: you can embed "program" snippets

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
Lisi Reisz schreef op 31-12-2016 10:37: On Saturday 31 December 2016 08:48:09 Xen wrote: Oh and yes, mentioning someone else's behaviour to another person is not an ad hominem attack Catherine. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ad+homonem=ad+homonem=chrome..69i57.3014j0j7=chrome=UTF-8

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
Lisi Reisz schreef op 31-12-2016 10:30: Which make me bad at writing? Lisi Refusing to write good documentation on purpose.

Re: productivity tips

2017-01-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 01:02:41AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > emacs has org-mode built-in and org-mode is probably one of the > older mind mappers available for download. +1 on org mode. Especially org-babel: you can embed "program" snippets

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
to...@tuxteam.de schreef op 31-12-2016 10:35: On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 07:38:18AM +0100, Xen wrote: do...@mail.com schreef op 26-12-2016 3:41: >I encountered this many times on windowz FAT32 in a non-root dir, but >never on Linux. I suspect that it was/is one of their "Features". The >said

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 12 nivôse, an CCXXV, Dan Purgert a écrit : > > [...] I don't know about US, but here in EU all is getting averaged to > > the lowest mark possible. > Pretty sure they've been doing that here since at least the 80s. It's > become even more pronounced since '00 though. Considering people

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
rhkra...@gmail.com schreef op 31-12-2016 15:12: But, info pages could work. Yes, let's propose that. They are just impossible to navigate if you are not an insider. The fact that pretty much no one uses them is not a red herring at all.

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation?

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
Thomas Schmitt schreef op 31-12-2016 11:59: Well, "info" is the pet of GNU and thus often better documentation for GNU tools than their "man" pages. The goal and viewpoint is nevertheless the same: Technical documentation of programs, not tutorial. I personally also cannot use "info". I

Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")

2017-01-01 Thread Dan Purgert
deloptes wrote: > [...] I don't know about US, but here in EU all is getting averaged to > the lowest mark possible. Pretty sure they've been doing that here since at least the 80s. It's become even more pronounced since '00 though. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: