Re: next LTS version?

2018-07-06 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
In Article <20180704095507.ga20...@darac.org.uk>, Darac Marjal writes: > [...snip...] > Bullseye come out some time in 2021 or 2022. So... don't hold your > breath. Thank you for kind comments^^^ Sincerely, Byung-Hee. -- ^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: How to access this group via NNTP in PAN client.

2018-07-06 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
In Article <20180706153258.xtlrikiswlttk...@randomstring.org>, Dan Ritter writes: > [...snip...] > aioe, and gmane -- I can't reach gmane at all right now. Sorry i am from Gmane, thanks! Sincerely, Byung-Hee. -- ^고맙습니다 _白衣從軍_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-06 Thread davidson
On Fri, 6 Jul 2018, Curt wrote: On 2018-07-06, Greg Wooledge wrote: From this, I conclude that Joey Hess is a skilled manipulator. (I didn't say this.) Observation: That line begins with "From". Speculation: I suspect that the listserv software escapes "From" after a newline, and

Re: A "Where am I" routine

2018-07-06 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 09:00:11AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/06/2018 07:15 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 06:25:43AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I multi-boot several configurations &/or releases of Debian. > > > I will run identical test scripts on each. >

Re: Laptop recommendation

2018-07-06 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 07:47:45AM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 05/07/18 10:57 PM, Ben Oliver wrote: > > > On 18-07-06 08:43:44, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > > Default answer to many folks these days⦂ > > > https://puri.sm/ > > > > I think they are in the market for a used ThinkPad. > >

Re: A "Where am I" routine

2018-07-06 Thread David Christensen
On 07/06/18 07:00, Richard Owlett wrote: On 07/06/2018 07:15 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 06:25:43AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I multi-boot several configurations &/or releases of Debian. I will run identical test scripts on each. I want to store the results in a

Re: Gimp broken in Debian Sid?

2018-07-06 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 07/07/18 08:13, Michael Wagner wrote: On Jul 06, 2018 um 07:58:41, Thierry Rascle wrote: I'm using Debian Sid. Gimp does not seem to work any more (the user interface does not show up). I've tried in Xmonad and in Openbox. I have no idea what causes this. I don't see any error message. Does

Re: A "Where am I" routine

2018-07-06 Thread Mike McClain
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 06:25:43AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I multi-boot several configurations &/or releases of Debian. > I will run identical test scripts on each. > I want to store the results in a common logging file. > > I can set up an appropriate environment with a custom fstab

Re: Editing a piped in stream?

2018-07-06 Thread David Christensen
On 07/06/18 09:17, Richard Owlett wrote: Subject line is poorly phrased. While working on a problem {solved by a different approach} I had:    ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/ | cut -f 10,12 -d ' ' data.txt I would then manually edit data.txt by replacing the space character between the two fields

Re: Separate /home directories etc?

2018-07-06 Thread ntrfug
On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 15:47:37 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > In response to a unrelated post to a LUG, I was asked if I had a > separate /home directory. Short answer -- no. > > I abandoned WinXP when Jessie had become stable. > The installer defaults {I assume for cause} to putting every thing

Re: Separate /home directories etc?

2018-07-06 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 06/07/18 01:54 PM, Matthew Crews wrote: Pros to keeping same partition together Pros: less hassle Cons: if your / partition drive fails, it takes /home with it Separate partitions Pros: if your / partition drive fails, it does not take /home with it Pros: easier to run multiple distros

Re: Gimp broken in Debian Sid?

2018-07-06 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 7/6/18, Thierry Rascle wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 07:33:16 +0100 > Joe wrote: > >> On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 07:58:41 +0200 >> Thierry Rascle wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > I'm using Debian Sid. Gimp does not seem to work any more (the user >> > interface does not show up). I've tried in Xmonad and

Re: Separate /home directories etc?

2018-07-06 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2018-07-06 14:47 (UTC-0500): > In response to a unrelated post to a LUG, I was asked if I had a > separate /home directory. Short answer -- no. > I abandoned WinXP when Jessie had become stable. > The installer defaults {I assume for cause} to putting every thing on

Re: Gimp broken in Debian Sid?

2018-07-06 Thread Thierry Rascle
On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 07:33:16 +0100 Joe wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 07:58:41 +0200 > Thierry Rascle wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm using Debian Sid. Gimp does not seem to work any more (the user > > interface does not show up). I've tried in Xmonad and in Openbox. > > > > I have no idea what

Re: Separate /home directories etc?

2018-07-06 Thread Kenneth Parker
I, not only have a separate /home directory but, if the Hard Drive is large enough, will create things, like /bighome, /oldhome (just before installing a new Release), as well other variations, to handle the "Issue de jour". Why? Because /home is where my "personal data" is stored, and I don't

Re: Separate /home directories etc?

2018-07-06 Thread Matthew Crews
Pros to keeping same partition together Pros: less hassle Cons: if your / partition drive fails, it takes /home with it Separate partitions Pros: if your / partition drive fails, it does not take /home with it Pros: easier to run multiple distros Cons: more hassle Sent from

Separate /home directories etc?

2018-07-06 Thread Richard Owlett
In response to a unrelated post to a LUG, I was asked if I had a separate /home directory. Short answer -- no. I abandoned WinXP when Jessie had become stable. The installer defaults {I assume for cause} to putting every thing on one partition/directory. Where may I read about pros/cons ?

Re: Gimp broken in Debian Sid?

2018-07-06 Thread Michael Wagner
On Jul 06, 2018 um 07:58:41, Thierry Rascle wrote: > I'm using Debian Sid. Gimp does not seem to work any more (the user > interface does not show up). I've tried in Xmonad and in Openbox. > > I have no idea what causes this. I don't see any error message. > > Does anyone else have the same

Re: comunicació llista / chat Debian català

2018-07-06 Thread Papapep
El 6 de juliol de 2018 18:18:44 CEST, Alex Muntada ha escrit: >> per què no he sabut trobar cap pàgina d'inici al wiki, només la >> de la neteja d'spam i he pensat que millor el web, mentre no >> tinguem res millor. > >Ja vaig esmentar la pàgina wiki del grup local el primer cop que >vaig

Re: Editing a piped in stream?

2018-07-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/06/2018 11:46 AM, Michael Wagner wrote: On Jul 06, 2018 um 11:17:56, Richard Owlett wrote: Subject line is poorly phrased. While working on a problem {solved by a different approach} I had: ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/ | cut -f 10,12 -d ' ' data.txt I would then manually edit data.txt by

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-06 Thread Curt
On 2018-07-06, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2018-07-05 at 17:29, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > >> But what I'm trying to point out here is that there seems to be no >> such canonical (sic) Debian tool which CAN tell me what release and >> version I'm running. > > That's not true. /etc/debian_version,

Re: Editing a piped in stream?

2018-07-06 Thread john doe
On 7/6/2018 6:17 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: Subject line is poorly phrased. While working on a problem {solved by a different approach} I had:    ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/ | cut -f 10,12 -d ' ' data.txt I would then manually edit data.txt by replacing the space character between the two fields

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-06 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-07-05 at 17:29, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > But what I'm trying to point out here is that there seems to be no > such canonical (sic) Debian tool which CAN tell me what release and > version I'm running. That's not true. /etc/debian_version, if not modified by the sysadmin, should

Re: Editing a piped in stream?

2018-07-06 Thread Michael Wagner
On Jul 06, 2018 um 11:17:56, Richard Owlett wrote: > Subject line is poorly phrased. > While working on a problem {solved by a different approach} I had: >ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/ | cut -f 10,12 -d ' ' data.txt > I would then manually edit data.txt by replacing the space character between >

Re: comunicació llista / chat Debian català

2018-07-06 Thread Alex Muntada
Hola Pau, > el debian.cat el vaig registrar jo fa uns anys, i el vagi tenir > redirigit durant 2 o 3 la pàgina catalana de debian.org. Però > tenia tantes poques entrades (de l'ordre de 1 al mes, que vaig > deixar de pagar-lo i va caducar. Moltes gràcies per la informació. > Ara pot ser que el

Re: comunicació llista / chat Debian català

2018-07-06 Thread Alex Muntada
Hola Josep, > El perfil de Twitter @debiancat el tinc jo Bo saber-ho, gràcies :) > Hi he ficat l'enllaç de la pàgina web de Debian: > > https://www.debian.org/international/Catalan/index.ca.html > > per què no he sabut trobar cap pàgina d'inici al wiki, només la > de la neteja d'spam i he

Editing a piped in stream?

2018-07-06 Thread Richard Owlett
Subject line is poorly phrased. While working on a problem {solved by a different approach} I had: ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/ | cut -f 10,12 -d ' ' data.txt I would then manually edit data.txt by replacing the space character between the two fields with a tab. I suspect I should be able to

Re: Tecla NumLock - BloqNum activa cuando arranca Debian Strech

2018-07-06 Thread Felix Perez
El 6 de julio de 2018, 06:16, divagante escribió: > El 03/07/18 a las 05:54, Joan Carles Albiñana Medina escribió: >> >> Buenos dias, >> >> Estoy instalando PRIMTUX, una distribución basada en Debian Strech para >> escuelas de primaria francesas. Me voy a Senegal y otros paises a montar >>

Re: [OT] Videos disponibles en los videocursos

2018-07-06 Thread Miguel Matos
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 6:57 AM divagante wrote: > El 04/07/18 a las 06:44, Galvatorix Torixgalva escribió: > > > > > > Hola, > > > > quiero comunicaros que ya hay varios videos disponibles de forma > > gratuita en varios de los videocursos que he publicado. > > > > Dichos videocursos son: > > >

Re: How to access this group via NNTP in PAN client.

2018-07-06 Thread Dan Ritter
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 08:25:13AM -0700, Piotr Martyniuk wrote: > On Friday, 6 July 2018 17:20:03 UTC+2, Dan Ritter wrote: > > The missing ingredient here is an NNTP server that: > > > > a) carries linux.debian.user > > b) gives you read and, optionally, post privileges > > Any ideas how to

Re: How to access this group via NNTP in PAN client.

2018-07-06 Thread Piotr Martyniuk
On Friday, 6 July 2018 17:20:03 UTC+2, Dan Ritter wrote: > The missing ingredient here is an NNTP server that: > > a) carries linux.debian.user > b) gives you read and, optionally, post privileges Any ideas how to find them? Regards, Piotr

Re: How to access this group via NNTP in PAN client.

2018-07-06 Thread Dan Ritter
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 08:09:32AM -0700, zaxonx...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to use X11 newsgroup client (Pan) to access linux.debian.user > group using NNTP protocol. > > Does anyone using NNTP client with this group? The missing ingredient here is an NNTP server that: a)

How to access this group via NNTP in PAN client.

2018-07-06 Thread zaxonxp45
Hi, I would like to use X11 newsgroup client (Pan) to access linux.debian.user group using NNTP protocol. Does anyone using NNTP client with this group? Regards, Piotr

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 06 Jul 2018 16:10:40 +0200 floris wrote: Hello floris, >and there is a new bug: >https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=903121 >So be careful if you use the nvidia module. Thanks for the warning. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is /

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 06 Jul 2018 16:06:19 +0200 floris wrote: Hello floris, >They have found and reported this bug multiple times: > >see bug numbers: 901919, 901932, 901990, 902248, 902661, 902773, >902868, 902891 Fair enough. As I was pointed to the initial report quite quickly, I didn't search for

Re: Laptop recommendation

2018-07-06 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 05/07/18 10:57 PM, Ben Oliver wrote: On 18-07-06 08:43:44, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Default answer to many folks these days⦂ https://puri.sm/ I think they are in the market for a used ThinkPad. Here's another vote for used ThinkPads. I'm on my second (a T410) and it works quite well.

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-06 Thread floris
Matthew Crews schreef op 2018-07-06 13:55: On 07/06/2018 01:55 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: Actually, as of version 390.67-2, that's no longer needed. Quoting [1]: nvidia-graphics-drivers (390.67-2) unstable; urgency=high * Add kmem_cache_create_usercopy.patch from Red Hat, fixing

Re: [OT] Recomendacion de lector Epub y experiencias..

2018-07-06 Thread divagante
El 06/07/18 a las 07:06, franiortiz hotmail escribió: On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 06:01:49AM -0300, divagante wrote: El 05/07/18 a las 22:12, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: El jue, 05-07-2018 a las 11:16 -0300, divagante escribió: Bueno, este mail quizas y con mucho agrado se vuelva un poquito extenso

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-06 Thread floris
Brad Rogers schreef op 2018-07-06 12:37: It's strange also that nobody using sid /seems/ to have been affected by the problem. Or maybe they were, knew the workaround and forgot to report the bug. Who knows? They have found and reported this bug multiple times: see bug numbers:

Re: A "Where am I" routine

2018-07-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/06/2018 07:15 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 06:25:43AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I multi-boot several configurations &/or releases of Debian. I will run identical test scripts on each. I want to store the results in a common logging file. I can set up an

Re: [OT] Recomendacion de lector Epub y experiencias..

2018-07-06 Thread franiortiz hotmail
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 06:01:49AM -0300, divagante wrote: > El 05/07/18 a las 22:12, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: > >El jue, 05-07-2018 a las 11:16 -0300, divagante escribió: > >>Bueno, este mail quizas y con mucho agrado se vuelva un poquito > >>extenso > >>así que ya mismo hago un "copete" para

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-06 Thread Curt
On 2018-07-06, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >>From this, I conclude that Joey Hess is a skilled manipulator. > (I didn't say this.)

Re: comunicació llista / chat Debian català

2018-07-06 Thread Pau Ibars
*Bonestardes* a tothom, el debian.cat el vaig registrar jo fa uns anys, i el vagi tenir redirigit durant 2 o 3 la pàgina catalana de debian.org. Però tenia tantes poques entrades (de l'ordre de 1 al mes, que vaig deixar de pagar-lo i va caducar. Ara pot ser que el tingui alguna empresa per fer

Re: A "Where am I" routine

2018-07-06 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 06:25:43AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I multi-boot several configurations &/or releases of Debian. > I will run identical test scripts on each. > I want to store the results in a common logging file. > > I can set up an appropriate environment with a custom fstab

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-06 Thread Matthew Crews
On 07/06/2018 01:55 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > Actually, as of version 390.67-2, that's no longer needed. Quoting [1]: > > nvidia-graphics-drivers (390.67-2) unstable; urgency=high > > * Add kmem_cache_create_usercopy.patch from Red Hat, fixing "Bad or > missing >

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 08:41:58AM +, Curt wrote: > So, Joey Hess is a crazy idiot, for instance? > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=81249 That was written in 2001. One hopes that he has learned something in the 17 years since then. I certainly have. Reading along to

Re: comunicació llista / chat Debian català

2018-07-06 Thread Àlex
On 06/07/18 13:40, Àlex wrote: On 06/07/18 13:23, Xavier De Yzaguirre i Maura wrote: He mirat a whois i sembla que algú la registrat per no utilitzar-lo. Jo crec que ho han registrat per revendre-ho car. Pura especulació. L'empresa que ho registra és un hosting gallec:

Re: comunicació llista / chat Debian català

2018-07-06 Thread Josep Lladonosa
On Fri, 6 Jul 2018, 13:30 Papapep, wrote: > És el que he pensat quan ho he mirat... > En aquesta adreça d'Ourense (telèfon Barcelona!) he trobat: Sered Internet *Sered*, es un negocio ubicado en Rua Progreso, 177, *A Rúa*. El horario de apertura para hoy viernes es 10:00-21:00. Acepta el

Re: comunicació llista / chat Debian català

2018-07-06 Thread Àlex
On 06/07/18 13:23, Xavier De Yzaguirre i Maura wrote: He mirat a whois i sembla que algú la registrat per no utilitzar-lo. Jo crec que ho han registrat per revendre-ho car. Pura especulació. L'empresa que ho registra és un hosting gallec:   https://xtudionet.com/  

Re: comunicació llista / chat Debian català

2018-07-06 Thread Papapep
És el que he pensat quan ho he mirat... El 6 de juliol de 2018 13:23:29 CEST, Xavier De Yzaguirre i Maura ha escrit: >He mirat a whois i sembla que algú la registrat per no utilitzar-lo. > >https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=debian.cat > >Ganes d'impedir l'ús? > >Les dades de Registrant:: >

A "Where am I" routine

2018-07-06 Thread Richard Owlett
I multi-boot several configurations &/or releases of Debian. I will run identical test scripts on each. I want to store the results in a common logging file. I can set up an appropriate environment with a custom fstab containing: # create a common area LABEL=owlcommon

Re: comunicació llista / chat Debian català

2018-07-06 Thread Xavier De Yzaguirre i Maura
He mirat a whois i sembla que algú la registrat per no utilitzar-lo. https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=debian.cat Ganes d'impedir l'ús? Les dades de Registrant:: Registrant Name: Datos Privados Registrant Organization: Datos privados Registrant Street: calle progreso 177 Registrant City:

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 06 Jul 2018 12:09:59 +0200 Francisco M Neto wrote: Hello Francisco, >assume it was something that was changed in the kernel since it was the >kernel upgrade that "broke" the driver, but it might also have been >something in the driver that was addressed in the kernel. nVidia have made

Re: Tecla NumLock - BloqNum activa cuando arranca Debian Strech

2018-07-06 Thread divagante
El 03/07/18 a las 05:54, Joan Carles Albiñana Medina escribió: Buenos dias, Estoy instalando PRIMTUX, una distribución basada en Debian Strech para escuelas de primaria francesas. Me voy a Senegal y otros paises a montar escuelas y de ayuda humanitaria. Hola Joan! Antes de leerte pensé que

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-06 Thread Francisco M Neto
Thanks for the answer! First, checking installed kernel headers was the first thing I tried when dkms failed. I'll try using the workaround when I get home tonight and see how it goes. I try not to use too much stuff from sid, especially on essential systems like this.

Re: comunicació llista / chat Debian català

2018-07-06 Thread Josep Sanchez
El 03/07/18 a les 18:04, Alex Muntada ha escrit: > Hola Àlex, > >> El que penso ara és que si algú busca "Debian català" el que li >> apareix és: >> >> https://www.debian.org/international/Catalan/ >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-catalan/ Bon dia a tothom, > > De fet, apareix en

Re: [OT] Recomendacion de lector Epub y experiencias..

2018-07-06 Thread divagante
El 05/07/18 a las 11:26, TheFox escribió: Aquí tienes algunas posibles alternativas: https://hipertextual.com/archivo/2012/11/5-alternativas-a-calibre/ Santiago. Hola Santiago ya realice esas búsquedas en la web che y no encontré mucho. De cualquier forma visite tu enlace y ninguna

Re: [OT] Recomendacion de lector Epub y experiencias..

2018-07-06 Thread divagante
El 05/07/18 a las 22:12, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: El jue, 05-07-2018 a las 11:16 -0300, divagante escribió: Bueno, este mail quizas y con mucho agrado se vuelva un poquito extenso así que ya mismo hago un "copete" para resumir: Utilice tres programas diferentes para leer epubs y no me

Re: anybody maintaining lxc and lxd in Debian?

2018-07-06 Thread john doe
On 7/6/2018 9:56 AM, Harald Dunkel wrote: Hi folks, is anybody maintaining lxc in Debian? I have the impression that it has been orphaned. And I don't dare to hope for #768073 anymore. Does everybody interested in virtualization use Ubuntu now? According to:

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-06 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 08:03:22PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: On 7/5/18 5:42 PM, Francisco Mariano-Neto wrote: Hey all, I'm running kernel 4.15 with nvidia-driver 390.48-3 with no problems. However, recently my kernel was automatically upgraded to 4.16 and it broke the nvidia driver.

Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-06 Thread Curt
On 2018-07-06, David Wright wrote: > Hmm, I struggle to see the connection between what I asked for and > what you wrote. From your later post, I guess the answer is that > editing /etc/debian_version risks provoking expletives from other > users of the system. > > That said, I do agree with

anybody maintaining lxc and lxd in Debian?

2018-07-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, is anybody maintaining lxc in Debian? I have the impression that it has been orphaned. And I don't dare to hope for #768073 anymore. Does everybody interested in virtualization use Ubuntu now? Regards Harri

firmware-nonfree hasn't been uploaded in a while

2018-07-06 Thread Carl Suster
I've had issues with some hardware on my Lenovo X1 notebook, particularly with Bluetooth, but when I investigated I found that there are old reported bugs for exactly these issues on the BTS and fixes implemented in the git repository of firmware-nonfree some time ago. Despite this the

Re: Gimp broken in Debian Sid?

2018-07-06 Thread Joe
On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 07:58:41 +0200 Thierry Rascle wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using Debian Sid. Gimp does not seem to work any more (the user > interface does not show up). I've tried in Xmonad and in Openbox. > > I have no idea what causes this. I don't see any error message. > > Does anyone else

Re: Nvidia drivers

2018-07-06 Thread David Baron
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 5:57 AM Matthew Crews wrote: > On 07/05/2018 06:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote: > > On 7/5/18 5:42 PM, Francisco Mariano-Neto wrote: > >> Hey all, > >> > >> I'm running kernel 4.15 with nvidia-driver 390.48-3 with no > >> problems. However, recently my kernel was