On 02/12/2023 02:24, gene heskett wrote:
On 12/1/23 10:27, Max Nikulin wrote:
so I have to repeat it. You *do* *not* have NetworkManager installed
hence it can not overwrite files.
What particular *evidences* do you have that namely NetworkManager
overwrites /etc/network/interfaces? I am
On 12/2/23, Tom Furie wrote:
> 'apt depends ' would list the direct dependencies without
> recursion.
Thank you, I think I got what I needed (at least for now).
$ apt depends wget
wget
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.28)
Depends: libgnutls30 (>= 3.7.0)
Depends: libidn2-0 (>= 0.6)
Depends:
On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 02:52:25AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> direct dependencies of packages which haven't been downloaded,
> install. I need to download those packages.
> These should be a straightforward way to do that or an easy hack.
> lbrtchx
I /think/ this hack might involve
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:39:51PM +, piorunz wrote:
> On 01/12/2023 16:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > > Your message is here, so you are subscribed :)
> >
> > Not necessarily, you can post here as a non-subscriber. Actually I have
> > the hunch that the OP is not subscribed (going by the
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:30:47PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:18:13PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > there is a new surplus word "private" in these lines:
> >
> > > * Please post answers back to the list so others can benefit: private
> > >
On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 11:21 PM Andy Smith wrote:
>
> Is anyone else receiving non-delivery report emails from
> postmas...@ewetel.de for every email they post to debian-user? They
> look like this:
>
> From: postmas...@ewetel.de
> To: a...@strugglers.net
> Subject: E-Mail
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 10:01:54PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 21:55:42 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > apt install ./myfile.deb
>
> That requires you to be online, aka "exposed mode". The OP only
> exposes a live USB to the outside world, not their "real" system.
>
On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 21:55:42 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 02:52:25AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> > direct dependencies of packages which haven't been downloaded,
> > install. I need to download those packages.
> > These should be a straightforward way to do that
On Sat 02 Dec 2023 at 02:10:48 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote:
> On 11/30/23, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 30 Nov 2023 at 21:05:38 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote:
> >> I also notice repeated copies of {src-, pkgcache}.bin files for each
> >> downloaded package even though I am downloading
Albretch Mueller writes:
> How can you list just the direct dependencies? and how safe is it
> downloading and installing only those via dpkg?
'apt depends ' would list the direct dependencies without
recursion.
Why do you want to download them individually and install directly with
dpkg when
On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 02:52:25AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> direct dependencies of packages which haven't been downloaded,
> install. I need to download those packages.
> These should be a straightforward way to do that or an easy hack.
I'm still struggling to figure out what the X is
direct dependencies of packages which haven't been downloaded,
install. I need to download those packages.
These should be a straightforward way to do that or an easy hack.
lbrtchx
On 12/2/23, Tom Furie wrote:
...
> This is a recursive search, also showing dependencies of dependencies,
> etc.
How can you list just the direct dependencies? and how safe is it
downloading and installing only those via dpkg?
lbrtchx
Gene writes:
> Like I said, boring.
Not boring at all. I assume that you also have a desktop or laptop on
that network? If I was running it I would *definitely* be using DHCP.
--
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j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
Albretch Mueller writes:
> https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/wget
>
> shows 8 packages as "depends"
>
> dep: libc6 (>= 2.28)
> dep: libgnutls30 (>= 3.7.0)
> dep: libidn2-0 (>= 0.6)
> dep: libnettle8
> dep: libpcre2-8-0 (>= 10.22)
> dep: libpsl5 (>= 0.16.0)
> dep: libuuid1 (>= 2.16)
> dep:
On 2/12/23 06:10, Van Snyder wrote:
When I try to view a mp4 video in Firefox 115.5.0esr(64-bit) on Debian
GNU/Linux 10 (buster), it puts up a sad-face window saying "No video
with supported format and MIME type found." It doesn't offer to
download the file, or play it with an external
On 11/30/23, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 30 Nov 2023 at 21:05:38 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote:
>> I also notice repeated copies of {src-, pkgcache}.bin files for each
>> downloaded package even though I am downloading them to specific
>> subdirectories in order to then install them using
https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/wget
shows 8 packages as "depends"
dep: libc6 (>= 2.28)
dep: libgnutls30 (>= 3.7.0)
dep: libidn2-0 (>= 0.6)
dep: libnettle8
dep: libpcre2-8-0 (>= 10.22)
dep: libpsl5 (>= 0.16.0)
dep: libuuid1 (>= 2.16)
dep: zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4)
~
vs. 17 using apt-rdepends
Hello everyone,
I am trying to follow the Debian's wiki about Secure Boot:
https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot
I've been able to carry out most of this one, from generating modules to
enrolling in the MOK cert, but it doesn't work the signing of the modules
as per the steps.
The only irregular
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 23:21:05 +0700
Max Nikulin wrote:
> As to a GPS receiver, it should be doable and 169.254.x.y addresses
> will not be an issue any more. Be careful with cables when connecting
> it however: https://www.wired.com/2012/02/neutrinos-faulty-cable/
And there is plenty of expertise
Hi,
Is anyone else receiving non-delivery report emails from
postmas...@ewetel.de for every email they post to debian-user? They
look like this:
From: postmas...@ewetel.de
To: a...@strugglers.net
Subject: E-Mail Abweisungsbenachrichtigung / email bounce notification
It goes on to
On 2/12/23 06:10, Van Snyder wrote:
When I try to view a mp4 video in Firefox 115.5.0esr(64-bit) on Debian
GNU/Linux 10 (buster), it puts up a sad-face window saying "No video
with supported format and MIME type found." It doesn't offer to download
the file, or play it with an external
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 04:57:25PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> root@mkspi:/etc# ls -ld /etc/network/interfaces
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 106 Jul 24 19:10 /etc/network/interfaces
OK. Now we have something to work with, at least.
> date
> Tue 03 Jan 2023 06:44:56 AM PST
> The clock is
When I try to view a mp4 video in Firefox 115.5.0esr(64-bit) on Debian
GNU/Linux 10 (buster), it puts up a sad-face window saying "No video
with supported format and MIME type found." It doesn't offer to
download the file, or play it with an external application.
ffmpeg is installed and
On 12/1/23 14:42, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 02:24:20PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
root@mkspi:/etc# nmcli
-bash: nmcli: command not found
I do not know the mechanism by which my addition and deletions were done
during boot, I had added the correct data to put eth0 at
piorunz writes:
> On 01/12/2023 16:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
>>> Your message is here, so you are subscribed :)
>>
>> Not necessarily, you can post here as a non-subscriber. Actually I have
>> the hunch that the OP is not subscribed (going by the X-Spam-Status header).
>>
>> Cheers
>
> Oh,
On 12/1/23 13:27, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:30:35AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 10:24:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
Gene,
Please do us *all* a favour to try and help you.
Write us out a list of all your machines - and if a printer
On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 16:32:44 (+), Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:12:56 +0100
> Marco Moock wrote:
> > Am 01.12.2023 um 15:55:41 Uhr schrieb Joe:
> >
> > > I received a message timed 22:52 on 28th, the last that day, the
> > > next three were on 29th at
> > > 08:39
> > > 13:14
> > >
Hello,
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 11:21:05PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 30/11/2023 23:12, Andy Smith wrote:
> > Unless you have a dedicated time source (e.g. GPS receiver, atomic
> > decay source, …)
>
> A nitpick. I am puzzled by the word "decay" in this context. Electron
> transition between
On 01/12/2023 16:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
Your message is here, so you are subscribed :)
Not necessarily, you can post here as a non-subscriber. Actually I have
the hunch that the OP is not subscribed (going by the X-Spam-Status header).
Cheers
Oh, ok, I didn't know that. That's why the
Hi,
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> * Before posting, it may be useful to check your post for spelling mistakes
> and scan it for redundancy, duplicate words and redundancy.
Some wisdom cannot be repeated enough.
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:46:28PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> My first guess is that you may have done "su" which results in you
> not having /sbin in your path. So you need to execute it as
> /sbin/fdisk, or "su -", or become root by some other means.
At this point, we no longer need to guess.
Hi,
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:06:58PM +, fuf wrote:
> root@debian:/sbin# fdisk -l
> bash: fdisk: command not found
>
> whereas:
> root@debian:/sbin# ls -al
> .
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root169520 Mar 23 2023 fdisk
>
> why?
My first guess is that you may have done "su" which
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 02:24:20PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> > > root@mkspi:/etc# nmcli
> > > -bash: nmcli: command not found
> I do not know the mechanism by which my addition and deletions were done
> during boot, I had added the correct data to put eth0 at 192.168.71.100 in
> /e/n/i, and
fuf writes:
> Hello all.
> I'm embarrassed because didn't can use "fdisk"!
> I work as normal user, open the terminal, switch to "root" user but
> get:
> root@debian:/sbin# fdisk -l
> bash: fdisk: command not found
>
> whereas:
> root@debian:/sbin# ls -al
> .
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:06:58PM +, fuf wrote:
> I'm embarrassed because didn't can use "fdisk"!
> I work as normal user, open the terminal, switch to "root" user but get:
> root@debian:/sbin# fdisk -l
> bash: fdisk: command not found
https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes
Or the
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:18:13PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> there is a new surplus word "private" in these lines:
>
> > * Please post answers back to the list so others can benefit: private
> > private conversations don't benefit people who may only be following
>
>
> Have a
Hello all.
I'm embarrassed because didn't can use "fdisk"!
I work as normal user, open the terminal, switch to "root" user but get:
root@debian:/sbin# fdisk -l
bash: fdisk: command not found
whereas:
root@debian:/sbin# ls -al
.
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root169520 Mar 23 2023 fdisk
why?
I
tomas writes:
> Oh, oh... my first "Internet" (not in the sense of IP, obviously!)
> connection was via UUCP.
Likewise.
--
John Hasler ihnp4!stolaf!bungia!foundln!john
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
On 12/1/23 10:27, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 01/12/2023 17:42, gene heskett wrote:
On 11/30/23 23:18, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 01/12/2023 10:24, gene heskett wrote:
Then, please, explain clearly what is "networkmangler", what is
"/e/n/i", and what particular evidences you have that namely
Hi,
there is a new surplus word "private" in these lines:
> * Please post answers back to the list so others can benefit: private
> private conversations don't benefit people who may only be following
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
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On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 04:55:01PM -, Curt wrote:
> On 2023-12-01, John Hasler wrote:
> >
> > BTW my network experience goes back to bang paths. I'm currently using
> > both hosts files and DHCP.
>
> In addition to legacy use, in 2021 new and innovative UUCP uses are
> growing [...]
Oh,
On 12/1/23 08:42, Dan Purgert wrote:
On Dec 01, 2023, gene heskett wrote:
[lotsa snipping ... ]
You claim I don't have to do anything to that printer machine, so I
installed the ICC server here. I have done zip to the dhcpd.conf which
looks as it it is fully disabled. Assuming I want a pool of
On 12/1/23 08:25, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:20:57AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
You claim I don't have to do anything to that printer machine, so I
installed the ICC server here. I have done zip to the dhcpd.conf which looks
as it it is fully disabled. Assuming I want a
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:30:35AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 10:24:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
>
Gene,
Please do us *all* a favour to try and help you.
Write us out a list of all your machines - and if a printer has an
embedded SBC, it's a machine in
Bonjour,
Comme nous sommes en décembre, il est désormais possible de traiter les
archives du mois de novembre 2023 des listes francophones.
Si vous disposez d'un peu de temps vous pouvez aussi traiter les mois de
mai 2021 à mars 2022 inclus où il manque en relecteur pour achever le
traitement des
On 2023-12-01, John Hasler wrote:
>
> BTW my network experience goes back to bang paths. I'm currently using
> both hosts files and DHCP.
In addition to legacy use, in 2021 new and innovative UUCP uses are
growing, especially for telecommunications in the HF band, for example,
for
Pocket wrote:
> Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list?
>
> Have received any messages since Nov 30
>
> I can not tell if I am still subscribed
>
> I get
>
> Error: Overload
>
> On the https://lists.debian.org/users.html page
Your message made it to the list. Various people
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:12:56 +0100
Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 01.12.2023 um 15:55:41 Uhr schrieb Joe:
>
> > I received a message timed 22:52 on 28th, the last that day, the
> > next three were on 29th at
> > 08:39
> > 13:14
> > 15:55
> > then normal flow was resumed, which is typically about 50
Hi,
> Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list?
I got your message via the list.
> Have received any messages since Nov 30
Normal traffic yesterday and today, i'd say.
> I can not tell if I am still subscribed
The "From:" address poc...@columbus.rr.com seems not to be recognized
On 30/11/2023 23:12, Andy Smith wrote:
Unless you have a dedicated time source (e.g. GPS receiver, atomic
decay source, …)
A nitpick. I am puzzled by the word "decay" in this context. Electron
transition between energy states in atomic clocks is not decay.
Nuclear decay is hardly related to
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 03:24:33PM +, piorunz wrote:
> On 01/12/2023 15:05, Pocket wrote:
> > Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list?
> >
> > Have received any messages since Nov 30
> >
> > I can not tell if I am still subscribed
>
> Your message is here, so you are subscribed
Am 01.12.2023 um 15:55:41 Uhr schrieb Joe:
> I received a message timed 22:52 on 28th, the last that day, the next
> three were on 29th at
> 08:39
> 13:14
> 15:55
> then normal flow was resumed, which is typically about 50 messages per
> day.
>
> So yes, there was a problem.
> Times UTC by the
For this sort of thing I prefer the aptitude TUI. Highlight the package
in question and hit 'r' and the list of reverse dependencies appears.
Installed packages will be in bold (also bright white with my terminal
settings). One can continue up the chain by highlighting one of the
installed
On 01/12/2023 17:42, gene heskett wrote:
On 11/30/23 23:18, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 01/12/2023 10:24, gene heskett wrote:
Then, please, explain clearly what is "networkmangler", what is
"/e/n/i", and what particular evidences you have that namely
"networkmangler" overwrites "/e/n/i".
Am 01.12.2023 um 10:05:02 Uhr schrieb Pocket:
> I get
>
>
> Error: Overload
>
> On the https://lists.debian.org/users.html page
Works perfectly fine for me.
On 01/12/2023 15:05, Pocket wrote:
Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list?
Have received any messages since Nov 30
I can not tell if I am still subscribed
Your message is here, so you are subscribed :)
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Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list?
Have received any messages since Nov 30
I can not tell if I am still subscribed
I get
Error: Overload
On the https://lists.debian.org/users.html page
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On Dec 01, 2023, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:20:57AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> > You claim I don't have to do anything to that printer machine, so I
> > installed the ICC server here. I have done zip to the dhcpd.conf which looks
> > as it it is fully disabled. Assuming I
On Dec 01, 2023, gene heskett wrote:
> [lotsa snipping ... ]
>
> You claim I don't have to do anything to that printer machine, so I
> installed the ICC server here. I have done zip to the dhcpd.conf which
> looks as it it is fully disabled. Assuming I want a pool of 16
> addresses, say from
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 08:20:57AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> You claim I don't have to do anything to that printer machine, so I
> installed the ICC server here. I have done zip to the dhcpd.conf which looks
> as it it is fully disabled. Assuming I want a pool of 16 addresses, say from
>
On 12/1/23 05:59, gene heskett wrote:
On 12/1/23 05:41, Dan Purgert wrote:
On Nov 30, 2023, gene heskett wrote:
On 11/30/23 22:07, John Hasler wrote:
Gene writes:
let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT
have dhcpcd installed. No trace of it in /etc Only dhcp.
Le Thu, 30 Nov 2023 16:37:23 +,
benoit a écrit :
> Je me répond !
> Désolé, je n'avais pas essayé...
> Ca s'active quand on ouvre une image
>
> Benoit
Avant de se plaindre que ça ne marche pas, brancher ;)
C'est un exercice mental très sain de se remémorer de temps en temps les
bases
On Dec 01, 2023, gene heskett wrote:
> On 11/30/23 23:18, Max Nikulin wrote:
> > [...]
> > What I see in your messages are false claims, e.g. that DHCP addresses
> > are unstable. DHCP servers *may* be configured to assign fixed addresses
> > to particular clients.
> >
> My ISP does that, so my
On Dec 01, 2023, gene heskett wrote:
> On 12/1/23 05:41, Dan Purgert wrote:
> > On Nov 30, 2023, gene heskett wrote:
> > > On 11/30/23 22:07, John Hasler wrote:
> > > > Gene writes:
> > > > > let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT
> > > > > have dhcpcd installed. No
On 2023-11-30, David Wright wrote:
> deborphan -Ps or orphaner
Perhaps
deborphan -Ps --ignore-suggests
Or even
deborphan -Ps --ignore-suggests --ignore-recommends
On 12/1/23 05:41, Dan Purgert wrote:
On Nov 30, 2023, gene heskett wrote:
On 11/30/23 22:07, John Hasler wrote:
Gene writes:
let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT
have dhcpcd installed. No trace of it in /etc Only dhcp.
I'm sure it's running dhclient. do
On 11/30/23 23:18, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 01/12/2023 10:24, gene heskett wrote:
If you would bother to read what I posted, you would have seen that
networkmangler claimed credit for that overwritten /e/n/i file.
Then, please, explain clearly what is "networkmangler", what is
"/e/n/i", and
On Nov 30, 2023, gene heskett wrote:
> On 11/30/23 22:07, John Hasler wrote:
> > Gene writes:
> > > let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT
> > > have dhcpcd installed. No trace of it in /etc Only dhcp.
> >
> > I'm sure it's running dhclient. do
> >
> > ls
On 11/30/23 23:04, John Hasler wrote:
Klipper runs on OctoPi, a customized Linux distribution. As installed
it is set up to use DHCP. You can either install a DHCP server on your
network and it will just work, or you can figure out how to modify
OctoPi to do things your way. You seem to be
On 2023-11-30, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> My first thought is that popularity-contest should be able to tell you
> this, because it's able to tell *Debian* which packages are "old"
I should live on the "old" but mandatory edge :)
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