Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

2023-12-21 Thread Anssi Saari
Mark Fletcher writes > The question is, what values are config_directory and prefix set to? Grub sets config_directory to point to the directory where it's reading it's config from. In other words, /boot. But why not just use 40_custom? It copies whatever is in the file (after the header) to

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread tomas
On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 09:15:27AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/12/2023 22:04, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The key point here is that you don't STORE these human-readable time > > strings anywhere. You simply *produce* them on demand, using the > > epoch time values that you *do* store. > >

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? (but on original thread topic, not so much)

2023-12-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Dec 2023 at 22:19:47 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2023-12-21 19:20 (UTC-0600): > > On Thu 21 Dec 2023 at 21:38:46 (+), Mark Fletcher wrote: > > >> My very first attempt involved using Debian's > >> /boot partition as the /boot partition for LFS as well, so

Re: Is there a problem with Linux-image-6.1.0-16?

2023-12-21 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 09:02:34 -0500 Gary Dale wrote: > Several days ago my main server upgraded to kernel 6.1.0-16 but > various other devices that are also running Bookworm seem stuck at > 6.1.0-13. They are all using the same architecture. Some are using > the same mirror as the server that

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? (but on original thread topic, not so much)

2023-12-21 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2023-12-21 19:20 (UTC-0600): > On Thu 21 Dec 2023 at 21:38:46 (+), Mark Fletcher wrote: >> My very first attempt involved using Debian's >> /boot partition as the /boot partition for LFS as well, so installing >> LFS's kernel (6.4.12 IIRC) alongside Debian's, but I

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 07:31:31PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > Bear in mind that I was explaining my use of "all-UTC machine". > Were you to construct such a beast, I think the first thing you > might set, actively, is the RTC. You wouldn't just assume that > it was already set to UTC. > > What

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/12/2023 22:04, Greg Wooledge wrote: The key point here is that you don't STORE these human-readable time strings anywhere. You simply *produce* them on demand, using the epoch time values that you *do* store. Greg, I agree to almost everything you write, however I believe that text

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Dec 2023 at 07:15:12 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:52:33PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > Sorry for the synecdoche, but I think it expresses the comprehensive > > setting of UTC across the entirety of the computer and its operating > > system, from the RTC,

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Dec 2023 at 06:38:55 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:52:33PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 20 Dec 2023 at 08:37:46 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:00:29AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > >

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

2023-12-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Dec 2023 at 21:38:46 (+), Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 at 06:01, David Wright wrote: > > > > I can't see anywhere where the OP claims to have set up LFS for > > booting itself, as opposed to being booted from a Debian Grub. > > It only says "I have been able to get a

Re: systemd and timezone

2023-12-21 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023, 10:06 AM Max Nikulin wrote: > On 21/12/2023 12:33, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > . > > > > Double ugh. > > > > UNIX got that right from the start. Now this crazy notion "the computer > > HAS to have a timezone of its own" is creeping in. > > Even admins may wish to see

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

2023-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 07:33:13PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > >From one PC here currently booted: > # grep vmlinuz /boot/grub2/custom.cfg | wc -l > 21 > # grep root= /boot/grub2/custom.cfg | wc -l > 21 > # grep root=LABEL /boot/grub2/custom.cfg | wc -l > 21 Just for the record, grep -c (count

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

2023-12-21 Thread Felix Miata
Mark Fletcher composed on 2023-12-21 21:30 (UTC): > Felix Miata wrote: >> I suspect few if any regulars here spend much time with Slackware. > I am genuinely confused about how Slackware came into the picture > here... my foreign OS is LFS, nothing to do with slackware as far as I > know...

Re: systemd and timezone

2023-12-21 Thread gene heskett
On 12/21/23 16:54, Nicolas George wrote: to...@tuxteam.de (12023-12-21): I've sometimes the impression that desktop environments are losing the concept pf multi-user operating systems and are regreding to something like Windows 95. Desktop environment and the “modern” applications designed

Re: Clarification: public private replies [WAS Re: Formal reminder of Codes of Conduct]

2023-12-21 Thread David Christensen
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 02:59:26PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: Clarification, please. Occasionally a miss-configured mail reader will cause a private off-list reply, which the correspondent does not notice. My usual response to that sort of thing is to suggest that the correspondent fix his

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread gene heskett
On 12/21/23 16:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 03:34:49PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: unforch it does not create them and in my recent experience it may run but does not work without being able to log. That would be a bug, given that this stats directory is apparently

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

2023-12-21 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 at 22:15, Felix Miata wrote: > > I can't answer why Grub scripts to what the do, because I don't really use > them, > and don't need to understand much about them. Grub config files in > /boot/grub/ are > akin to scripts, but they are really simple, mainly just command

Clarification: public private replies [WAS Re: Formal reminder of Codes of Conduct]

2023-12-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 02:59:26PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 21:36:00 + > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > Replies to you which are specifically marked as replies off-list are > > private. Don't repost private information. The normal expectation is > > that the list

Re: RTC and (old) Windows [was: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...]

2023-12-21 Thread David Christensen
On 12/21/23 04:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I used to work in a shop Back Then (TM) (roughly Windows 3.1). We did C programs for a living and had a mix of Windows boxes and Linux boxes. Windows boxes were "naive" and had local time. We had a time zone with summer and winter time. On time

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread David Christensen
On 12/21/23 04:00, Alain D D Williams wrote: My home PC is receiving, for hours at a time, 12-30 kB/s input traffic. This is unsolicited. I do not know what it is trying to achieve but suspect no good. It is also eating my broadband allowance. This does not show up in the Apache log files - the

Re: Formal reminder of Codes of Conduct [WAS Re: Could we please cease this thread now?]

2023-12-21 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 21:36:00 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > Replies to you which are specifically marked as replies off-list are > private. Don't repost private information. The normal expectation is > that the list is public and communication to the list is public. > If someone

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

2023-12-21 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 at 21:38, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > So I rebuilt my LFS (was happy to do so, this is a learning exercise) > with its own /boot partition, which gets me closer to the solution I > want which is one Grub, Debian's grub, with Debian as the first and > default boot choice, but

Re: systemd and timezone (was: Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...)

2023-12-21 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-12-21): > I've sometimes the impression that desktop environments are losing > the concept pf multi-user operating systems and are regreding to > something like Windows 95. Desktop environment and the “modern” applications designed for them had already lost the ability to

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

2023-12-21 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 at 06:01, David Wright wrote: > > > I can't see anywhere where the OP claims to have set up LFS for > booting itself, as opposed to being booted from a Debian Grub. > It only says "I have been able to get a grub.cfg including the > LFS system …", which seems to imply LFS has

Formal reminder of Codes of Conduct [WAS Re: Could we please cease this thread now?]

2023-12-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:12:36AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > On 12/21/23 09:46, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 09:25:26 -0500 > > Pocket wrote: > > > > Hello Pocket, > > > > > Forwarded Message > > Putting a private message on the list, without sender's consent, is

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 03:34:49PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > unforch it does not create them and in my recent experience it may run but > does not work without being able to log. That would be a bug, given that this stats directory is apparently optional. (It logs through syslog just fine

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

2023-12-21 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 at 02:40, Felix Miata wrote: > > Mark Fletcher composed on 2023-12-20 00:28 (UTC): > > > I am curious to know from Debian > > GRUBbers (as it were) if the behaviour I am describing in this thread > > is expected... > > I suspect few if any regulars here spend much time with

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread gene heskett
On 12/21/23 15:04, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 02:51:50PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: can us see your /etc/ntpsec/ntp.conf? And, do you have a /var/log/ntpsec subdir ownwd by ntpsec:ntpsec? unicorn:~$ ls -ld /var/log/ntpsec /etc/ntpsec/ntp.conf ls: cannot access

Re: Where is "LADSPA Noise Suppressor for Voice" for Kdenlive?

2023-12-21 Thread Leela Vam
I followed these instructions and when I load Kdenlive I do not see the effect under LDASPA Plugins. The instructions say Kdenlive will see the plugin automatically, but mine does not. Is there an extra configuration step required to tell Kdenlive where the effect is at and to load it? I have

Re : Re: Connexion réseau impossible pour certains logiciels

2023-12-21 Thread benoit
Le jeudi 21 décembre 2023 à 15:25, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : > Le 2023-12-21 15:43, benoit a écrit : > > > Le jeudi 21 décembre 2023 à 14:06, Sébastien NOBILI > > s-liste-debian-user-fre...@pipoprods.org a écrit : > > > > > Si oui, est-ce que tu as regardé si les paramètres de proxy de > >

Fwd: Re: Problem Installing WebMO.23.0.17

2023-12-21 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I'm hoping for some help is solving this problem. An excellent discussion of the installation  of WebMO is www/webmo.net Forwarded Message Subject:Re: Problem Installing WebMO.23.0.17 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 12:36:54 -0500 From: Stephen P. Molnar To: JR

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 02:51:50PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > can us see your /etc/ntpsec/ntp.conf? And, do you have a > /var/log/ntpsec subdir ownwd by ntpsec:ntpsec? unicorn:~$ ls -ld /var/log/ntpsec /etc/ntpsec/ntp.conf ls: cannot access '/var/log/ntpsec': No such file or directory

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread gene heskett
On 12/21/23 07:45, Tim Woodall wrote: On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, Alain D D Williams wrote: My home PC is receiving, for hours at a time, 12-30 kB/s input traffic. This is unsolicited. I do not know what it is trying to achieve but suspect no good. It is also eating my broadband allowance. This

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread gene heskett
On 12/21/23 07:38, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 06:08:26AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: and what would the systemd way to synch the RTC (Real Time Clock) and UTC? I don't understand this question at all. The system clock value is normally written to the RTC as a backup

Re: Is there a problem with Linux-image-6.1.0-16?

2023-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 09:02:34AM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > Several days ago my main server upgraded to kernel 6.1.0-16 but various > other devices that are also running Bookworm seem stuck at 6.1.0-13. They > are all using the same architecture. Some are using the same mirror as the > server

Re : Re: Connexion réseau impossible pour certains logiciels

2023-12-21 Thread benoit
Envoyé avec la messagerie sécurisée Proton Mail. Le jeudi 21 décembre 2023 à 14:43, benoit a écrit : > > > > > > Envoyé avec la messagerie sécurisée Proton Mail. > > > Le jeudi 21 décembre 2023 à 14:06, Sébastien NOBILI > s-liste-debian-user-fre...@pipoprods.org a écrit : > > >

Is there a problem with Linux-image-6.1.0-16?

2023-12-21 Thread Gary Dale
Several days ago my main server upgraded to kernel 6.1.0-16 but various other devices that are also running Bookworm seem stuck at 6.1.0-13. They are all using the same architecture. Some are using the same mirror as the server that upgraded. I haven't set any special policies on upgrades.

Re: Comportement bizarre clé usb fat32

2023-12-21 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 12/21/23 15:45, Fabien Dubois wrote: Bonjour, J'ai depuis quelque temps un comportement bizarre de mes hub usb 3. Lorsque je branche une clé win, fat32, elle n'est pas vue. Il faut que je déconnecte et reconnecte le hub au port usb de la cm et là tout va bien. Comportement avec deux hub

Re: Écran noir avec Intel UHD Alder-Lake sur Bookworm+Backports [RESOLU]

2023-12-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/12/2023 à 17:08, Olivier a écrit : Il semble que le paramètre i915.modeset=0 désactive Wayland au profit de X11. Le jeu. 21 déc. 2023 à 14:57, didier gaumet a écrit : Bonjour, Les wiki Debian https://wiki.debian.org/GraphicsCard#Intel et Archlinux

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:36:06PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > I have another guess. systemd-timedated is activated on demand and reads > /etc/localtime. It exits a half of a minute later. Perhaps second command > caused start of new process since the old one was dead already. Hmm. OK, logs do

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread debian-user
Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:11:08AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > Use a firewall and set it up correctly. > > That I have done. > > The issue is broadband usage - ie before it hits the firewall. IIUC you have a residential system with an ISP connection with a

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 21/12/2023 15:11, Pocket wrote: On 12/21/23 09:58, Alain D D Williams wrote: [cut] Use a firewall and set it up correctly. Assuming a residential environment. Firewall the router and server(s) as well as all the client machines. I have nginx, dovecot and exim4 and other daemons running

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Pocket
On 12/21/23 13:04, Alain D D Williams wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 11:39:40AM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/21/23 10:50, Alain D D Williams wrote: It is NOT a firewall issue. If I am correct you don't want any thing from the outside to hit your web server? The words "web server" is

Re: Copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand.

2023-12-21 Thread Eric DEGENETAIS
bonjour, Le mer. 20 déc. 2023 à 13:46, Michel Verdier a écrit : > > Le 20 décembre 2023 benoit a écrit : > > > Maintenant, je ne sais pas si c'est une bonne raison d'avoir une /var, > > /home, /div séparée... > > Si tu n'as pas d'autre moyen de limiter les importations dans /div garde > le

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 11:39:40AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > On 12/21/23 10:50, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > It is NOT a firewall issue. > > > If I am correct you don't want any thing from the outside to hit your web > server? The words "web server" is ambiguous. It can mean my machine, ie can

Re: systemd and timezone (was: Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...)

2023-12-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 11:04:35AM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > I think you will find a fair number of Unix & Linux servers set a > default timezone. I sometimes have to set TZ in my bashrc because of > an unexpected default timezone. Or that's been my experience at the > GCC Compile

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Pocket
On 12/21/23 10:50, Alain D D Williams wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:31:06AM -0500, Pocket wrote: All you should be seeing is scans which you can not prevent. I am looking at incoming packets with tcpdump. This sees packets *before* they are filtered by iptables. What are you using for

Re: systemd and timezone (was: Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...)

2023-12-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 12:51 AM wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:30:42AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > [...] > > > See systemd-timedated.service(8) and org.freedesktop.timedate1(5) > > > > busctl introspect org.freedesktop.timedate1 /org/freedesktop/timedate1 > > # Values are stripped > >

WiFi issue on Bullseye

2023-12-21 Thread Andrea Neroni
Dear all, I am having issues with my laptop wifi (Debian Bullseye). The connection comes and goes making using internet impossible.I assumed a firmware problem, so I tried several versions of the firmware-iwlwifi.deb package without improvements.Specifically I tried the versions 20190114,

Re: Écran noir avec Intel UHD Alder-Lake sur Bookworm+Backports [RESOLU]

2023-12-21 Thread Olivier
Il semble que le paramètre i915.modeset=0 désactive Wayland au profit de X11. Le jeu. 21 déc. 2023 à 14:57, didier gaumet a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > Les wiki Debian https://wiki.debian.org/GraphicsCard#Intel et Archlinux > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Intel_graphics semblent faire aboutir à

wifi issue on bullseye

2023-12-21 Thread Andrea Neroni
Dear all, I am having issues with my laptop wifi (Debian Bullseye). The connection comes and goes making using internet impossible.I assumed a firmware problem, so I tried several versions of the firmware-iwlwifi.deb package without improvements.Specifically I tried the versions 20190114, 

Re: systemd and timezone

2023-12-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/12/2023 12:33, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:30:42AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: busctl introspect org.freedesktop.timedate1 /org/freedesktop/timedate1 Desktop environments use this interface. Ugh. I do not see any problem if it is considered as a D-Bus

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:51 AM Alain D D Williams wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:31:06AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > [...] > > Amazon AWS system. should not be able to hit your http server, unless you > > want it to. > > How do I distinguish between wanted & unwanted connections. The only

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:31:06AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > All you should be seeing is scans which you can not prevent. I am looking at incoming packets with tcpdump. This sees packets *before* they are filtered by iptables. > What are you using for a firewall? Something hand rolled. Reasonably

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Thu, 2023-12-21 at 10:12 -0500, Pocket wrote: > > On 12/21/23 09:46, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 09:25:26 -0500 > > Pocket wrote: > > > > Hello Pocket, > > > > > Forwarded Message > > Putting a private message on the list, without sender's consent, is > >

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/12/2023 19:38, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 06:08:26AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: Why is it I am noticing a 14 seconds difference on my computer (booted with a Debian Live DVD)? Have you executed any commands setting time since boot? Does the difference remain

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Pocket
On 12/21/23 10:24, Alain D D Williams wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:11:08AM -0500, Pocket wrote: Use a firewall and set it up correctly. That I have done. The issue is broadband usage - ie before it hits the firewall. All you should be seeing is scans which you can not prevent. What

Re: systemd and timezone

2023-12-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/12/2023 21:08, Dan Ritter wrote: Max Nikulin wrote: busctl introspect org.freedesktop.timedate1 /org/freedesktop/timedate1 Is this set per-user? It would be "busctl --user" if it were per-user. This an interface for a system-wide setting. Because I certainly have multiple users on

Re: Connexion réseau impossible pour certains logiciels

2023-12-21 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le 2023-12-21 15:43, benoit a écrit : Le jeudi 21 décembre 2023 à 14:06, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : Si oui, est-ce que tu as regardé si les paramètres de proxy de ton environnement de bureau sont toujours valides ? A ma connaissance je n'en avais pas Tu devrais quand-même aller regarder.

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:11:08AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Use a firewall and set it up correctly. That I have done. The issue is broadband usage - ie before it hits the firewall. > Assuming a residential environment. > > Firewall the router and server(s) as well as all the client machines. >

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 21 Dec 2023 09:25 -0500, from poc...@columbus.rr.com (Pocket): > Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 14:15:23 + > From: Andy Smith > Reply-To: a...@strugglers.net > To:

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Pocket
On 12/21/23 09:46, Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 09:25:26 -0500 Pocket wrote: Hello Pocket, Forwarded Message Putting a private message on the list, without sender's consent, is very rude indeed. Given that it was announced by sender beforehand that they would

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Pocket
On 12/21/23 09:58, Alain D D Williams wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 01:39:53PM +, Andy Smith wrote: Okay well 30KiB/s is only about 78GiB/month which isn't really a lot. I think we're both in UK and it's been hard to find a domestic Internet connection that you'd run a web server on that

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 09:25:26 -0500 Pocket wrote: Hello Pocket, > Forwarded Message Putting a private message on the list, without sender's consent, is very rude indeed. Given that it was announced by sender beforehand that they would reply privately, I'm absolutely certain

Re: systemd and timezone (was: Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...)

2023-12-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 09:08:09AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Max Nikulin wrote: > > I am not going to discuss code posted by Albretch, despite it has serious > > issues from my point of view. This is a response to Greg. > > > > On 20/12/2023 22:04, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > The default time

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 01:39:53PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Okay well 30KiB/s is only about 78GiB/month which isn't really a > lot. I think we're both in UK and it's been hard to find a domestic > Internet connection that you'd run a web server on that can't cope > with 78G/mo. So ignoring it

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 12:44:33PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, Alain D D Williams wrote: [...] > You can try sending RST. That might make them give up. And then, there's tarpit [1] . But then I'd make double-sure you aren't hurting legitimate traffic. Cheers [1]

Comportement bizarre clé usb fat32

2023-12-21 Thread Fabien Dubois
Bonjour, J'ai depuis quelque temps un comportement bizarre de mes hub usb 3. Lorsque je branche une clé win, fat32, elle n'est pas vue. Il faut que je déconnecte et reconnecte le hub au port usb de la cm et là tout va bien. Comportement avec deux hub usb différents, sur les différents ports

Re: Fwd: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Arno Lehmann
21.12.2023 at 15:25 Pocket: (forwarded direct mail) Stop this. There's still a slight chance that some of the list readers have not yet decided to ignore your mail. Also stop trying to trigger some sort of guilt her. It's not going to work. Cheers, Arno -- Arno Lehmann IT-Service Lehmann

Re: Connexion réseau impossible pour certains logiciels

2023-12-21 Thread benoit
Envoyé avec la messagerie sécurisée Proton Mail. Le jeudi 21 décembre 2023 à 14:06, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : > Le 2023-12-21 13:19, benoit a écrit : > > > J’ai réinstallé mon système et les logiciels tels que evolution, > > libreoffice, firefox-esr, ne parviennent pas à se connecter

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-12-21, Alain D D Williams wrote: > Yes: I do run a web server at home, but there is only a little/personal stuff, > it does not receive much real traffic, I do not want it to. Most of my web > presence is hosted elsewhere. If you open a port (80 or something else), not on your server but

Fwd: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Pocket
Forwarded Message Subject:Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 14:15:23 + From: Andy Smith Reply-To: a...@strugglers.net To: Pocket Hello, [off-list] On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 08:58:28AM -0500, Pocket

Re: systemd and timezone (was: Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...)

2023-12-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Max Nikulin wrote: > I am not going to discuss code posted by Albretch, despite it has serious > issues from my point of view. This is a response to Greg. > > On 20/12/2023 22:04, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The default time zone has nothing to do with systemd, nor with any other > > init system

RE: Écran noir avec Intel UHD Alder-Lake sur Bookworm+Backports

2023-12-21 Thread Frédéric BOITEUX
Bonjour, C’est assez étonnant que ta machine ne soit pas gérée par la toute dernière version du noyau Linux… Intel intègre en général les adaptations pour ses cartes graphiques intégrées dans le noyau Linux pour que ce soit disponible quand les puces sont sur le marché. Je ne sais pas

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Pocket
On 12/21/23 09:10, Hanno 'Rince' Wagner wrote: Hi Pocket, On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, Pocket wrote: What is your official capacity for debian? This is the mailinglist debian-user, where User help User with their problems. Mainly Desktop-related some server-related. but this is a user (in the

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello all, I did see the request from Andy Cater to bring this thread to a close so I am only going to answer the below questions off-list and do my part to not prolong this. Hopefully you didn't feel that you missed anything.  Thanks, Andy On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 08:58:28AM -0500, Pocket

Re: Connexion réseau impossible pour certains logiciels

2023-12-21 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le 2023-12-21 13:19, benoit a écrit : J’ai réinstallé mon système et les logiciels tels que evolution, libreoffice, firefox-esr, ne parviennent pas à se connecter à internet. Est-ce que tu as essayé de créer un nouveau compte utilisateur et de tester ces applis depuis ce compte ? Est-ce que

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Pocket
On 12/21/23 08:49, Andy Smith wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 07:35:44AM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/21/23 06:32, Andy Smith wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:44:23AM -0500, Pocket wrote: Maybe I should not post at all? Unless you are able to do better at it, that is a solution that I for

Re: Écran noir avec Intel UHD Alder-Lake sur Bookworm+Backports [RESOLU]

2023-12-21 Thread didier gaumet
Bonjour, Les wiki Debian https://wiki.debian.org/GraphicsCard#Intel et Archlinux https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Intel_graphics semblent faire aboutir à la conclusion que pour un matériel graphique Intel si récent il vaudrait mieux utiliser le serveur Xorg modesetting plutôt que intel. Perso

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-21 Thread songbird
James H. H. Lampert wrote: > On 12/20/23 11:30 AM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: >> Until about a year ago my experience with Logitech mice had been >> good. Those that had died normally did so after falling off a desk, >> which I don't really see as a manufacturing fault. >> >> But since then several

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 07:35:44AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/21/23 06:32, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:44:23AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > Maybe I should not post at all? > > Unless you are able to do better at it, that is a solution that I > > for one am in favour of. > >

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 01:10:59PM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > Yes: I do run a web server at home, but there is only a little/personal stuff, > it does not receive much real traffic, I do not want it to. Most of my web > presence is hosted elsewhere. Okay well 30KiB/s is only about

Re: Écran noir avec Intel UHD Alder-Lake sur Bookworm+Backports [RESOLU]

2023-12-21 Thread Olivier
Merci à tous pour vos réponses. Pour le processeur: Processor Information Socket Designation: U3E1 Type: Central Processor Family: Core i3 ... Version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-N305 Ce processeur fonctionne avec Bullseye qui est basé sur le noyau 5.10 et, si j'en crois le fichier

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Thu, 2023-12-21 at 07:35 -0500, Pocket wrote: > > On 12/21/23 06:32, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:44:23AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > Maybe I should not post at all? > > Unless you are able to do better at it, that is a solution that I > > for one am in favour of. > > > >

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 07:50:42AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > If your home Internet service has an "allowance", you probably shouldn't > run a web server on it. Yes: I do run a web server at home, but there is only a little/personal stuff, it does not receive much real traffic, I do not want

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 12:00:55PM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > My home PC is receiving, for hours at a time, 12-30 kB/s input traffic. This > is > unsolicited. I do not know what it is trying to achieve but suspect no good. > It > is also eating my broadband allowance. > 11:08:56.354303

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Dan Purgert
On Dec 21, 2023, Alain D D Williams wrote: > My home PC is receiving, for hours at a time, 12-30 kB/s input > traffic. This is unsolicited. I do not know what it is trying to > achieve but suspect no good. It is also eating my broadband > allowance. > > Questions: > > • What is going on ? Looks

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Tim Woodall
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, Alain D D Williams wrote: My home PC is receiving, for hours at a time, 12-30 kB/s input traffic. This is unsolicited. I do not know what it is trying to achieve but suspect no good. It is also eating my broadband allowance. This does not show up in the Apache log files -

Re: Connexion réseau impossible pour certains logiciels

2023-12-21 Thread NoSpam
Bonjour Le 21/12/2023 à 13:19, benoit a écrit : Bonjour, J’ai réinstallé mon système et les logiciels tels que evolution, libreoffice, firefox-esr, ne parviennent pas à se connecter à internet. Chose bizarre, la version de firefox téléchargée sur le site de mozilla se connecte sans

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 06:08:26AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > and what would the systemd way to synch the RTC (Real Time Clock) and > UTC? I don't understand this question at all. The system clock value is normally written to the RTC as a backup when the system shuts down. Then, the RTC

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Pocket
On 12/21/23 06:32, Andy Smith wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:44:23AM -0500, Pocket wrote: Maybe I should not post at all? Unless you are able to do better at it, that is a solution that I for one am in favour of. Andy So I see that I am not welcome here. Ok fine, I will take my leave

RTC and (old) Windows [was: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...]

2023-12-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 07:15:12AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > Again, there isn't any agency here. The RTC is just a resource that > the system can use, once per boot, to get things started. It could > be set correctly, or incorrectly. It could be set to local time, as > was common

Connexion réseau impossible pour certains logiciels

2023-12-21 Thread benoit
Bonjour, J’ai réinstallé mon système et les logiciels tels que evolution, libreoffice, firefox-esr, ne parviennent pas à se connecter à internet. Chose bizarre, la version de firefox téléchargée sur le site de mozilla se connecte sans problème… Comme si des logiciels en paquet debian ne

Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Alain D D Williams
My home PC is receiving, for hours at a time, 12-30 kB/s input traffic. This is unsolicited. I do not know what it is trying to achieve but suspect no good. It is also eating my broadband allowance. This does not show up in the Apache log files - the TCP connection does not succeed. Sometimes

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:52:33PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > Sorry for the synecdoche, but I think it expresses the comprehensive > setting of UTC across the entirety of the computer and its operating > system, from the RTC, through /etc/timezone and /etc/localhost, to > the users' sessions. By

Re: Écran noir avec Intel UHD Alder-Lake sur Bookworm+Backports

2023-12-21 Thread NoSpam
Essayez de mettre modeset=0 dans la ligne de commande grub comme par ex i915.modeset=0 Le 21/12/2023 à 12:26, Olivier a écrit : Bonjour, J'ai une nouvelle machine UN305 de Minis Forum. J'y ai installé Bullseye puis Bookworm et le noyau 6.5 du dépôt bookworm-backports. Quand la machine

Re: Écran noir avec Intel UHD Alder-Lake sur Bookworm+Backports

2023-12-21 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Bonjour Olivier, ton problème n'est pas le module i915 mais tout ce qui concerne wayland... Merci @+ Bernard - Mail original - De: "Olivier" À: "ML Debian User French" Envoyé: Jeudi 21 Décembre 2023 12:26:11 Objet: Écran noir avec Intel UHD Alder-Lake sur Bookworm+Backports

Re: Écran noir avec Intel UHD Alder-Lake sur Bookworm+Backports

2023-12-21 Thread Olivier
4. Connaissez-vous une carte graphique externe, pas trop chère (< 80 E.TTC), que l'on peut utiliser quand on rencontre une machine dont la carte graphique ne fonctionne pas avec notre OD préféré ? Même si c'est moche, comme mon PC est immobile, je me demande si je n'ai pas intérêt à investir dans

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:44:23AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Maybe I should not post at all? Unless you are able to do better at it, that is a solution that I for one am in favour of. Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Écran noir avec Intel UHD Alder-Lake sur Bookworm+Backports

2023-12-21 Thread Olivier
Bonjour, J'ai une nouvelle machine UN305 de Minis Forum. J'y ai installé Bullseye puis Bookworm et le noyau 6.5 du dépôt bookworm-backports. Quand la machine démarre, elle affiche quelques secondes le menu de boot (celui qui permet par exemple d'accéder à l'UEFI) puis son écran reste noir. Par

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