On 26/09/2023 11:52, John Crawley wrote:
On 25/09/2023 20:21, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:14:24AM +0200, Michael wrote:
so i looked into /etc/sudoers and all /etc/sudoers.d/* and found two
suspicous flags:
/etc/sudoers:
Defaults use_pty
/etc/sudoers.d/0pwfeedback
ot affect your decision to use Yahoo or Hotmail for your
> email service.
Better to use a fee for service email provider such as Fastmail.
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city
can deny a wireless provider the use of any city-owned land, but they
cannot regulate radio transmission or reception. That is the exclusive
jurisdiction of the FCC.
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pocket writes:
> I never implied that, only that the ISP services are spectrum only in the
> area I live.
No Starlik? In any case what ISP you use is unrelated to what email
provider you use. I use pobox.com, but there are others.
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e that incoming
traffic is blocked by using a front-end to nftables (built-in FW
capability).
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Does the Zoom client work on Bookworm with pipewire?
Thanks,
John
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x27;t have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/
Can I increase the size of the /var partition on the ssd without having
to reinstall the system?
LVM is one way to avoid this! ;^)
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On 15/12/2023 13:39, John Crawley wrote:
If you don't want to wait for 6.1.67-1 to arrive in Bookworm stable, it is
available in bookworm-proposed-updates [1][2], so one workaround would be to
temporarily add that repository [3] to apt sources before upgrading. Debian
point release 12.
ed for me today, FWIW.
[1]
https://tracker.debian.org/news/1485406/accepted-linux-signed-amd64-61671-source-into-proposed-updates/
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/StableProposedUpdates
[3] deb https://deb.debian.org/debian stable-proposed-updates main contrib
non-free non-free-firmware
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Cindy Sue Causey writes:
> I abhor having to type into the console. Apparently I "slur" my
> keystrokes while the system has a pretty fast keystroke repeat going.
man kbdrate
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/main
amd64 Packages
*** 6.1.38-4 100
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Have to wait a few more hours I suppose.
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Andy writes:
> This fails with leap seconds, potentially, and also TAI astronomical
> time seems to be its own animal.
TAI isn't good enough for the astronomers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Time
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03:36:19 PM EST, Andrew M.A. Cater
wrote:
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 06:13:59PM +, John - wrote:
> Since I last (3 December) upgraded the software (sid) on my old Thinkpad, my
> gui fails to come up. The last line of /var/log/Xorg.0.log reads:
> (EE) systemd-login: failed to ta
Greg writes:
> Is he simply talking about sneakernet? A human administrator, whom I
> imagine to be the "god" in this scenario, walks around and room and
> types things on each computer as needed?
Carrying removable media around.
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low network by mailing removable media around. In the
early days Australia was on Usenet by way of airmailed taps. Then
there's https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2549.
Though consider: the earliest computer viruses were transmitted by
floppy disk...
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Greg writes:
> cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk with you.
Those are applications and can do whatever they want. The OS does not
care about extensions.
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ling to sell me a replacement circuit board for most of the
price of the phone.
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Since I last (3 December) upgraded the software (sid) on my old Thinkpad, my
gui fails to come up. The last line of /var/log/Xorg.0.log reads:
(EE) systemd-login: failed to take device /dev/dri/card0: Message recipient
disconnected from message bus without replying
I've been trying for weeks to
ng I want except make phone calls.
> Their website [1] states: "Beta Edition PinePhones are aimed solely at
> early adopters. More specifically, only intend for these units to find
> their way into the hands of users with extensive Linux experience."
I have extensive Linux experien
Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming writes:
> You managed to install OpenWRT on an Ubiquiti router?
Yes. It was quite straightforward. Instructions on the OpenWRT site.
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Piotr writes:
> Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development
> Linux phone.
No support when it doesn't, though.
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Gene writes:
> AND (horrors) have written it down.
That's the right thing to do.
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Greg writes:
> And you should either *use* it once in a while, so you don't forget
> what it is, or else make it the same as your regular account's
> password.
Write the damn thing down. The world won't end.
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Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> UDM Pro runs Debian 11 (bullseye)
I have a Ubiquiti router. Before I installed OpenWRT I explored the OS.
It uses packages from Bullseye but it is certainly not Debian. You
couldn't find that file because it isn't there.
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local time.
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Why did you install zsh and then immediately remove it?
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It says nothing about the hardware clock.
Try
hwclock -l
to find out what timezone the hardwareclock is set to.
If the box is running systemd try
timedatectl
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.
chronyc tracking
will tell you what time Chrony thinks it is.
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server it would just work.
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ecise internal
synchronization but that isn't related to the system clocks. The
default NTP configuration in most Linux distributions will take care of
the system clocks if they have access to the Internet. If not run an
NTP server on one machine.
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Andy Smith writes:
> Is anyone else receiving non-delivery report emails from
> postmas...@ewetel.de for every email they post to debian-user?
I am.
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Gene writes:
> Like I said, boring.
Not boring at all. I assume that you also have a desktop or laptop on
that network? If I was running it I would *definitely* be using DHCP.
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tomas writes:
> Oh, oh... my first "Internet" (not in the sense of IP, obviously!)
> connection was via UUCP.
Likewise.
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ou're doing things the hard way, but whatever. In any case that
Klipper box is not running Debian: your are on the wrong forum.
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do the latter.
BTW my network experience goes back to bang paths. I'm currently using
both hosts files and DHCP.
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Just install a dhcp
server somewhere on your network (on the router is conventional) and it
will give that machine an ip number.
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tes the action without actually
changing anything. It needn't be run as root.
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dhcpcd is a DHCP client with a remarkably poorly chosen name.
DHCPCD(8)System Manager’s Manual DHCPCD(8)
NAME
dhcpcd — a DHCP client
dhcpd is a DHCP server.
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why do you want to
do that?
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ed to do anything when you add a machine.
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Install chrony. But first fix that address.
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On 11/28/23 22:51, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Lets keep the possibility of being able to send constructive e-mails
through mailing lists so we can avoid having to move to a forum based
set up.
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Removing the Gnome desktop will not break anything. There are several
"desktops" in Debian: Gnome is merely the default that you get when you
indicate that you want one but don't say which. There is in fact no
requirement for a "desktop" at all.
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PPLs eavesdropping.
If you pay a VPN provider, you need to trust that provider for it to be
worth paying.
In other words, the VPN provider can still look at what you are doing as
they are providing the service.
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https://webkitgtk.org/
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-/var/log/mail.log
user.* -/var/log/user.log
#
# Emergencies are sent to everybody logged in.
#
*.emerg :omusrmsg:*
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:17:55 -0500,
Marco Moock wrote:
>
> Am 21.11.2023 um 05:15:24 Uhr schrieb John Covici:
>
> &
:35 -0500,
Christoph Brinkhaus wrote:
>
> [1 ]
> Am Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 05:01:50PM -0500 schrieb John Covici:
> > Hi. I am using bookworm with latest updates and /var/log/syslog is
> > empty, even though rsyslog is runniing. I am also using logwatch and
> > not gettin
thread, but it does not seem to apply
to my situation.
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pa...@quillandmouse.com writes:
> On Thu, 09 Nov 2023 10:48:14 -0600
> John Hasler wrote:
>
> > Why does "accepted/popular" matter?
>
> Not a great choice of words, perhaps. I was thinking in terms of those
> password managers which are written by o
Much about Debian *doesn't* change. A book about it with
Bookworm/Trixie as an example and including a discussion of how it does
change could be quite useful. It could be updated every few years.
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technical problem.
I think that to most people their "devices" (cellphone, desktop,
whatever) are appliances. They have no more interest in learning about
the internals of those than in the internals of their washing machines.
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Why does "accepted/popular" matter?
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John Darrah writes:
> On Thu, 2023-11-09 at 16:03 -0800, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> > Folks:
> >
> > Does anyone know of a password manager which will store a variety of
> > user-defined information for each login, and not store that
> > information
> >
>
Take a look at 'secrets' which is a Gnome native app. It uses a
database and key file compatible with Password Safe.
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to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> IT'S A CONSPIRACY! UNICORNS AREN'T REAL!!!
Of course they are real. It's virgins (the only people who can see
them) that don't exist.
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Dan Ritter wrote:
> No, we're just riffing about the lack of a fantastical magical
> world in which everything works consistently.
Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Ah.. that world is called DOS.
Well, a resident monitor is a lot easier to make consistent than an
operating system.
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I wrote:
> On System III directories were files.
Nicolas George writes:
> On Linux, directories are files.
Try to edit one.
On System III the same system calls operated on files and directories.
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Paul Duncan writes:
> Yes, but we (on Linux and I *think* on good old System V and BSD 4.3)
> have mkfile and mkdir - so surely that means that everything (stored
> on a bit of rotating rust) is *not* a file :-)
On System III directories were files.
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El
Greg writes:
> The use of "directory" in the Unix sense predates graphical UI
> development.
> ...
> ...
The whole point of the desktop metaphor was to hide all of that from the
user. I'm not defending it: just describing a bit of its history.
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you squint).
On System III there was no restriction on hard links: you could create
an an arbitrarily complex cyclic graph.
Fortunately, I backed up the system before experimenting with this.
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r
in the early years weren't thinking about personal computers. They were
working on office automation.
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Hi. So, I am trying to upgrade a server I have in the cloud from
bullseye to bookworm and it fails with the following message:
Setting up libgcc-s1:amd64 (12.2.0-14) ...
Setting up libc6:amd64 (2.36-9+deb12u3) ...
/usr/bin/perl: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypt.so.1:
cannot open shar
top which might
have actual file folders on it. Every icon was supposed to be an image
of a familiar office object. In that context a directory is a phone
book.
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e Xerox "desktop metaphor". The idea was to hide scary
technical jargon behind familiar office jargon.
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Gene writes:
> That is informative, thanks Felix, but what is wrong with publishing
> the correct address?
Correct address for what? You don't want bugzilla.org: that's the home
page for the Bugzilla bug tracking program which whoever you are trying
to contact uses.
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Gene writes:
> But bugzilla knows me by name and I am not me when coming from a new
> ISP.
So use a different name.
> Mail sent to ad...@bugzilla.com bounces.
bugzilla.com is a site about customized Volkswagen beetles.
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for the browsers.
I believe you can adjust memory usage in about:config in Firefox.
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I wrote:
> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
Gene writes:
> Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away
> from it.
Why won't "sudo apt remove --purge network-manager" work for you?
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Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
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Gene writes:
> possibly, its a Buffalo Netfinity with a now elderly dd-wrt reflash,
> and whose pw I've long since forgot, and its 30 chars of random
> gibberish IIRC.
Write the password on the router. Write all your passwords down.
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David Wright writes:
> I'm just wondering where this file /etc/domainname came from in the
> first place. I can't find it with apt-file (killing two birds):
Gene created it, having been confused by the hostname man page.
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Gene writes:
> s/t be an xsensors.conf to edit?
/etc/sensors3.conf is it.
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Install xsensors and read the man page. You may need to run
sensors-detect and perhaps edit /etc/sensors3.conf.
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ed many times, does have
/etc/init.d/hostname.sh. However, a recently installed Bookworm does
not.
> Whatever's reading /etc/hostname comes from another location.
systemd-hostnamed
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The NIS stuff should be evicted from the hostname man page.
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Erwan writes:
> Here are the first lines of 'man domainname" :
That doesn't help very much with no hint as to what NIS is and that it
isn't relevant to DNS.
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Gene writes:
> Define NIS please.
Network Information Service. You've never heard of it because it's
obsolete. You should ignore it.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Information_Service>
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On 10/26/23 15:47, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Because shellworld is theonly such door I know of, I need a completely
objective sftp location for testing, username and password.
Googling around would lead you to something like [1].
[1] https://www.sftp.net/public-online-sftp-servers
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se it. It stands for "Address and Routing
Parameter Area” <https://www.iana.org/domains/arpa>.
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l months ago, when the file was
erratically truncated to zero bytes, every few days.
Does anyone know if there are any recent changes to gcc/libraries for
fork(2) and/or system(3)?
Be safe,
John
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ave to fix it based of what
> YOU know works. Makes one wonder about the motives.
I use host files and I don't have that problem.
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I wrote:
> It's for people who haven't a clue as to what a domainname or address
> block is.
Gene writes:
> If that is an insult, so be it.
I just meant to explain that though it is not a solution to your problem,
it is a solution to a problem some other people have.
racker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7788
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On 10/6/23 13:26, Nicolas George wrote:
john doe (12023-10-06):
I do not understand why you would want multiple repos, to me this looks
like this would fit the bill for a Git branching workflow.
Please elaborate. How do you work around the fact that Git is terrible
at removing data with a
parameters can be tweaked.
So, does anybody know of existing packages in Debian that could make my
work easier?
Thanks in advance.
I do not understand why you would want multiple repos, to me this looks
like this would fit the bill for a Git branching workflow.
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esults in a short (~10) list of
packages none of which I have installed.
dpkg-query --show --showformat='${db:Status-Abbrev} ${Package}\n' outputs a few lines
that don't start with "ii" like all the installed packages. I guess they need
to be filtered out?
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Add a CNAME record to your DNS.
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On 26/09/2023 12:06, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 11:52:09AM +0900, John Crawley wrote:
On 25/09/2023 20:21, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Given the presence of an /etc/sudoers.dpkg-dist file on my system,
which does in fact contain this:
# This fixes CVE-2005-4890 and possibly breaks
mation... Done
:~$ errors=$(<"$temp")
:~$ echo "$errors"
E: Unable to locate package nopkg
:~$ rm "$temp"
It would be nice to unpick the rest of the mystery though...
(Also, if some day bash had a way of making a variable look like a file for
writing.)
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Many thanks to Michael for finding the change in sudo behaviour!
For historical accuracy:
On 25/09/2023 20:24, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 01:35:38PM +0900, John Crawley wrote:
4) In a bash shell as root (e.g. "su" or "sudo -s"), do:
errors=$(apt-get
On 25/09/2023 12:42, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:58:13AM +0900, John Crawley wrote:
adduser tmp
adduser tmp sudo
Log in to tmp (no graphical session set up), and the results are the same:
behaviour in a bash shell is wrong, everything else works.
I simply can't repr
On 25/09/2023 11:58, John Crawley wrote:
So the 32bit system is different??
Doesn't semm to be that.
amd64 Bookworm VM behaves the same way.
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Thanks for the ideas!
On 25/09/2023 09:36, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 09:10:28AM +0900, John Crawley wrote:
I just tried, and yes it runs OK when the commands are in a script.
But type directly into the terminal:
errors=$(sudo apt-get install mirage 2>&1 1>/dev/tt
put: $errors"
[...]
It waits until I type 'n'
Same here.
Thanks for testing.
I just tried, and yes it runs OK when the commands are in a script.
But type directly into the terminal:
errors=$(sudo apt-get install mirage 2>&1 1>/dev/tty)
To see the immediate abort.
(But not on Debian 11, or after invoking 'sh'.)
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string3:-$^}|^$)"
<<<"$apt_error"
}
then
exec 3>&-
say 'Installation finished sucessfully.' 1
return 0
else
exec 3>&-
errorExit "There were problems installing ${*}" "${apt_error:-Install
Aborted}"
return 1
fi
}
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as working fine before)
debian trixie.
error message says
qemuBlockStorageSourceGetBlockdevFormatProps:1227 : internal error:
mishandled storage format 'none'
You might want to post this as well to the Libvirt mailing list.
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ll.
Reinstall it from scratch without a DE! ;^)
You could use 'tasksel' and/or 'apt-get --autoremove purge '.
HTH.
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Jason writes:
> Or how does your backup look like?
Just rsync.
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> I would use the emacsclient command in the terminal. `emacsclient -c
> -a ""` somehow does the work, but it occupies the terminal until the
> new emacsclient frame is killed,
Try
emacsclient -c -a "" &
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virt-manager when desired.
Your mileage may very!
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