Re: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft

2012-06-07 Thread Miles Bader
Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com writes: You can't disable the code signing requirement on ARM. ... which is a great deal more worrying. Yes. And no. I'd hate to see a situation where it was impossible to buy an ARM (or other CPU based board) without UEFI that can be

Re: [OT] Re: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft

2012-06-07 Thread Miles Bader
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: But still, those attacks wouldn't be prevented by Secure Boot, so Nate's argument (Secure Boot won't improve Windows security) still stands. That's why the whole thing seems so creepy... even if they -- currently! -- allow it to be disabled: It

Re: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft

2012-06-07 Thread Miles Bader
Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com writes: Would that mean anybody who wants to build their own kernel would need to buy a signing key? Not at all. You can generate your own key and load it into your UEFI. It's no different a situation than using self-signed ssl certs without

Re: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft

2012-06-05 Thread Miles Bader
Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com writes: Again, let MS rot in its malware hell.  I don't care!  Perhaps if MS had been a bit more proactive a couple of decades ago we would not be having this discussion.  MSFT issues are not for us in the Debian or wider Linux community to

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Miles Bader
It may also be a problem with your service provider -- I had a problem (back when I still used PPP) where the connection was getting dropped mysteriously, and [after much frustration trying to figure out what was happening] it turned out my provider didn't support TCP header compression; turning

Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

2012-04-29 Thread Miles Bader
Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de writes: No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long time ago. Unfortunately I did not know this, and my PS/2 keyboard and mouse continue to work as they did in the past 14 years. Hmm... at work I'm using the same PS/2 keyboard I've

Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Miles Bader
James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com writes: I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at all costs, is there a way of doing this successfully? Hmm, can't you just run it in compability mode or whatever it's called...? [if you want to avoid gnome-shell... I don't

Re: Unstable: Gimp requires dbus and gconf2 now? fail.

2012-04-11 Thread Miles Bader
Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes: I grudgingly use GIMP but wish I didn't have to. Dependencies on DBUS and gconf2 are the least of its problems (if you consider those problems at all). MyPaint, which has been packaged, looks like a possibly replacement. Hmm, if having almost no

Re: New computer planned

2012-02-26 Thread Miles Bader
Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net writes: I like PCLinuxOS, which is a rolling release, and is always up to date, if you just remember to update it once a week or so. sounds like debian/testing :-) With debian/stesing there is a benefit: You can stop updating once testing is declared stable.

Re: rm -rf is too slow on large files and directory structure(Around 30000)

2012-02-23 Thread Miles Bader
Bilal mk bilalh...@gmail.com writes: I am using xfs filesystem and also did the fsck. DMA is enabled. Also perfomed xfs defragmentation( xfs_fsr). But still an issue not only rm -rf but also cp command Traditionally XFS is super slow when deleting lots of little files -- much, _much_, slower

Re: free software mini pc

2012-02-23 Thread Miles Bader
Richard Owlett rowl...@pcnetinc.com writes: Back in the 70's DEC had an enclosure for the LSI-11 irreverently dubbed the Hitachi. Five sides were cast aluminum with large fins o get rid of ~100 watts of heat. The sixth side was a heavily gasketed piece of cast aluminum. Are you sure it

Re: New computer planned

2012-02-23 Thread Miles Bader
Curt Howland howl...@priss.com writes: The only thing I did for Linux compatibility was to not get on-board graphics. I bought an Nvidia-based graphics card that was not bleeding edge, even though it's got 3D acceleration. The card has it's own RAM, so system RAM is not shared, which is a very

Re: how to get rid of pulseaudio gracefully

2012-01-27 Thread Miles Bader
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: Running wheezy - kde plasma desktop I want to get rid of pulseaudio. I almost never even use sound in linux and I see it always chugging away at 5-8 % cpu. That seems a bit extreme some how. It seems worth reporting a bug if it's really consuming

Re: hi, how to set gnome3 in fallback mode?

2012-01-21 Thread Miles Bader
Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes: My apologizes, this is the first time someone has mentioned that my mail appears like it was in HTML formatting from my email client, but I can tell you the email was sent as Rich Text message. Perhaps your email client is interpreting

Re: OT: deferring gmail's new look

2011-12-27 Thread Miles Bader
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com writes: One man's meat is another man's poison! The Conversations are the single thing I most dislike on GMail. They make such a mess of threading. I don't understand this comment. That's what conversations *are*, threaded messages. It's just another name for

Re: Is it just me [Firefox resouce drain]

2011-11-09 Thread Miles Bader
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: There you have it: blame the browser :-) You can also try Google Chrome, it is also known to be fast. I've found that on most web pages, especially modern ones (lots of javascript, etc), FF 7 is usually signficantly _faster_ than chrome. FF after 6 became

Re: Usenet news - server required

2011-10-31 Thread Miles Bader
poenik...@operamail.com poenik...@operamail.com writes: Can anybody suggest a Usenet server? I am in the UK. http://news.individual.net/ Not free, but very cheap (10 euro / year), and very good. -Miles -- Learning, n. The kind of ignorance distinguishing the studious. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Cannot login to GNOME after sid update

2011-10-18 Thread Miles Bader
Frank debianl...@videotron.ca writes: Another update came through laterabout 8 new packages and now at least the desktop loads. Half the stuff is still missing. We'll see what happens in the days ahead. I rarely use Gnome anyway. But now I am curious. My main complaint is various

Re: Still can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-09-16 Thread Miles Bader
Mike Hore mike_h...@aapt.net.au writes: Hmm... no replies. I take it then that NOBODY is running Debian on one of this year's iMacs?? Maybe I should just go away and try again in a few months? Hmm, remember only a fraction of debian users actually use the mailing lists... (and I suppose even

Re: GTK weirdness after upgrade on wheezy

2011-09-15 Thread Miles Bader
lsut...@libero.it writes: After a dist-upgrade on wheezy (amd64( only some gtk applications have a weird look different from the system default, e.g. gnome-terminal (the preferences menu), gcalctool, empathy browser. On the other hand some other GTK applications are just fine and as expected

Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread Miles Bader
lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes: just guess ... might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD, so the stores only sold WD. Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one... -Miles -- Brain, n. An

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-12 Thread Miles Bader
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Another possibility is having an external optical unit, but it requires and extra power supply (that means more cables around) Hmm, actually modern optical external drives don't seem to need a power supply, at least those that run off USB. I bought the

Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?

2011-07-12 Thread Miles Bader
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: I don't trust USB external enclosures that claim not needing external power other than the common port or that use another USB port to fetch it from there. They tend to lie... well, not they but USB ports which do not always provide the full required voltage

Re: Can't smoothly type in gnome-terminal

2011-07-06 Thread Miles Bader
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: [Argh, even though I'm the original bug reporter for #631116, I didn't get any of the email followups...] No, this is because of #434257. The debbugs developers don’t want to fix Argh... As mentioned in the bug log, SCIM doesn’t provide a GTK3

Re: Can't smoothly type in gnome-terminal

2011-07-04 Thread Miles Bader
Chris bbsh...@gmail.com writes: According to a reply to bug #631116, installing ibus-gtk3 solved the typing issue for me. But the bad style is still here. A reboot makes no difference. [Argh, even though I'm the original bug reporter for #631116, I didn't get any of the email followups, so I

Re: solved: emacs: ugly characters

2011-07-02 Thread Miles Bader
lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de writes: Isn't ant-aliasing supposed to make fonts more pretty and easier to read instead of messing them up and making them very straining for the eyes? It generally does, but like anything, YMMV. Anti-aliasing parameters can have a big effect on the final look (e.g.,

Re: Can't smoothly type in gnome-terminal

2011-06-30 Thread Miles Bader
Chris bbsh...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I'm a user of gnome-terminal. Currently the version is 3.0.1-1. Now if I try to type any characters, I just get part of them typed in. For example, if I type ls, only s typed in. If I continuously type asdf, only as typed in. The result seemd to be random.

Re: Can't smoothly type in gnome-terminal

2011-06-30 Thread Miles Bader
Mahesh T Pai paiva...@gmail.com writes: I have this problem too: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631116 Very annoying (there are a lot of decent terminal programs in Debian, but gnome-terminal is still the nicest I've found). I use same version - 3.0.1-1 and I

Re: Can't smoothly type in gnome-terminal

2011-06-30 Thread Miles Bader
Mahesh T Pai paiva...@gmail.com writes: somewhat different hardware (AMD + radeon + USB keyboard vs. Intel + i915 + PS/2 keyboard -- I mention those details because it might be related to X / input handling...). WHich version of libgnomekbd? 2.91.91-2 -miles -- Religion, n. A

Re: C compiler cannot create executables no good google answers

2011-06-30 Thread Miles Bader
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: I'm trying to compile emacs-24 on a newly installed squeeze system. I get the error C compiler cannot create executables Since emacs-24 uses autoconf, you can look at the file config.log to see more details about what went wrong running configure...

Re: Can't smoothly type in gnome-terminal

2011-06-30 Thread Miles Bader
Mahesh T Pai paiva...@gmail.com writes: WHich version of libgnomekbd? 2.91.91-2 I use 2.30.2-2 Probably, that makes a difference. Upgrading (and then rebooting) that doesn't make any difference. Indeed, AFAICT, gnome-terminal doesn't seem use libgnomekbd: $ ldd

Re: Smartphone definition - Re: Poll Summary Poll 1b - What Smartphonedo you use?

2011-05-17 Thread Miles Bader
teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net writes: I would interject that Blackberrys are widely considered Smartphones, in fact really being the first of the bread, but only one Blackberry Model contained a touch screen interface... smartphone seems to be a bit more of a marketing term than something

Re: Poll Summary Poll 1b - What Smartphone do you use?

2011-05-16 Thread Miles Bader
What defines a smartphone anyway? -Miles -- Quotation, n. The act of repeating erroneously the words of another. The words erroneously repeated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: [OT] Re: Defending yourself

2011-05-16 Thread Miles Bader
Klistvud klist...@gmail.com writes: c) the *fact* of going private is indication enough of the person's intention Sadly, it is not. There are a lot of people that are not very facile with their MUA... -Miles -- Politics, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles.

Re: file systems

2011-04-21 Thread Miles Bader
Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com writes: XFS beats EXT4 hands down in nearly every category, at least for server workloads. EXT4 may have some advantages on single user workstations simply from a familiarity standpoint WRT tools, and slightly better performance with some single user

Re: Proper name, more - Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones ; gre

2011-03-30 Thread Miles Bader
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Maybe something like Debian4Smartphones. SmartphoneDebian. ? Hum... I vote for Debianoid :-P Debdroid? -miles -- The key to happiness is having dreams. [from a fortune cookie] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: To 64 or Not to 64?

2011-02-28 Thread Miles Bader
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net writes: I do program development, compiles, etc. and have to say that for me 64-bit is definitely faster, to wit: Have you tried Tiny CC? When it's sufficient for the task, it's compile times are pretty fast.

Re: To 64 or Not to 64?

2011-02-28 Thread Miles Bader
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net writes: On 02/28/2011 01:36 AM, Miles Bader wrote: Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net writes: I do program development, compiles, etc. and have to say that for me 64-bit is definitely faster, to wit: Have you tried Tiny CC? When it's sufficient for the task

Re: Installed Debian today.

2010-12-31 Thread Miles Bader
Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net writes: LOL LTS is much buggy then non-LTS. 9.10 was the only stable version i have used. That's the biggest bunch of BS I've seen in a long time. I've used the last 3 LTS releases and they have been completely stable. So your experience is different. Great.

Re: have to switch windows back and forth after firefox, gimp, etc. exit

2010-12-12 Thread Miles Bader
jida...@jidanni.org writes: Furthermore, it only affects the keyboard. Working with just the mouse you would never discover the problem. But once you try to type something, you realize the window isn't listening yet, and you have to ALT-TAB away and back to be able to type anything. Quite an

Re: Frustration made me do it.

2010-12-07 Thread Miles Bader
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can correct that. I find that chromium actually seems to use _more_ memory for a given amount of content. However with chromium it's really easy to reduce the usage by closing tabs; with FF

Re: have to switch windows back and forth after firefox, gimp, etc. exit

2010-12-07 Thread Miles Bader
Thomas Dickey dic...@his.com writes: yes... (I noticed this a while back, and it's on my to-do list - appears to be due to an xorg change, since it doesn't happen on my older systems). ...or application change - for example

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Miles Bader
Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr writes: Epiphany is (marginally) better than Iceweasel/Firefox. Internet browsing on GNU/Linux, frankly, just plain sucks -- I mean, it sucks up all my CPU and all my RAM, permanently. It also makes my machine(s) heat up and my fans roar like a fully

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Miles Bader
Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de writes: Iceweasel (3.6.9) tends to grab memory and keep it (closing tabs may free some memory, may not), but eventually reaches a stable point and seems to do OK with memory once it reaches that (it may have long term leaks, but I generally close my browser every

Re: No flamewar please!

2010-01-12 Thread Miles Bader
Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com writes: f-spot (picasa-like photo management, digikam (KDE) is really the only comparable thing I know of, but EOG and gthumb are good image viewers with somewhat more limited abilities) I recommend geeqie for image/image-directory viewing/management. For

Re: Back to Debian after 10 years

2010-01-07 Thread Miles Bader
Brent Clark brentgclarkl...@gmail.com writes: I think if you run Testing, its no different if you run / use FreeBSD ports. You just need to know, and guess if its safe to do a dist-upgrade or upgrade only certain packages, but 99% of the time, I just dist-upgrade, and as said .. no problems

Re: VGA cards

2009-12-18 Thread Miles Bader
Dave Witbrodt dawit...@sbcglobal.net writes: Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:28:19 -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: I wasn't speaking of the independent xorg devs (although they also do a good job), I was saying AMD is doing a very good job. In what way is doing a very good job? A good job

Re: Safest maintenance of a sid system

2009-07-27 Thread Miles Bader
AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com writes: As an aside, I noticed that none of the respondents picked up on the scripts sxmi, et al. Is that because of a lack of experience with these, or because they are no good, or possibly because they are superfluous from the perspective of an

Re: request for a mono vote.

2009-07-25 Thread Miles Bader
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net writes: However, if you feel strongly about it, install popcon and mononono (from http://tim.thechases.com/mononono/). Thanks for the link! I've been wondering if there's a way to do that (in retrospect it's trivial, of course :). -Miles -- `The suburb is

Re: X11 without HAL: DontZap in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore

2009-07-16 Thread Miles Bader
Alex Samad a...@samad.com.au writes: I don't understand what you mean about mono. I don't think that I have any mono stuff on my system, and IIUC, Debian won't install it unless isn't the new gnome package going to bring in mono as a default The gnome meta-package has depends: tomboy |

Re: ext4 - 52.2% non-contiguous

2009-07-10 Thread Miles Bader
Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org writes: Actually shouldn't ext4 do _better_ (than ext3 etc) in such a case, since it does allocate-on-write, allowing it to allocate contiguous storage despite the user writes being small? btw, I meant allocate-on-write-to-the-disk, aka delayed allocation... -Miles

Re: ext4 - 52.2% non-contiguous

2009-07-09 Thread Miles Bader
Todd A. Jacobs nos...@codegnome.org writes: by default, rsync copies a file in small chunks, so copying an entire filesystem to a drive that is actively in use could certainly cause fragmentation. Actually shouldn't ext4 do _better_ (than ext3 etc) in such a case, since it does

Re: resize2fs: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!

2009-07-08 Thread Miles Bader
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net writes: As a side note, it took quite a few steps to setup LVM + a larger /. By default / is only ~6G, who in the world can live with that when my /home is 650G ? Anyway system seems to be fine now. My desktop has a / that is 1GiB, but that's far too

Re: ia32-apt-get doesn't create ia32 package list

2009-07-06 Thread Miles Bader
Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: ia32-libs is going through a lot of changes at the moment, there is a huge thread about it on debian-devel. You *might* be able to fix stuff if you downgrade relevant packages to testing/squeeze. I downgraded some packages to testing

Re: Advice on raid/lvm

2009-04-10 Thread Miles Bader
Tapani Tarvainen deb...@tapanitarvainen.fi writes: What load of gunk will be dumped into / to take it bigger than 500 MB? I've got a box where /lib takes 200MB now, of which /lib/modules is 140MB - and that's per kernel, during kernel updates it temporarily doubles, taking /lib to 340MB or

Re: [OT?] hardware compatibility of new PC

2008-10-02 Thread Miles Bader
brumair [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Motherboard: Sapphire mATX 780G ... - Video: Ati HD3450 HM PCI-E 2.0 I wouldn't hold my breath. x.org needs DX9-capable cards like nvidia 73xx series cards. I understand. Thank you very much. The radeon driver in experimental works fine with the

Re: [OT?] hardware compatibility of new PC

2008-10-02 Thread Miles Bader
Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The radeon driver in experimental works fine with the builtin video on the 780G -- just no acceleration. Oh, and just to be explicit: the last time I tried (maybe a month ago), the radeon driver in unstable _didn't_ work with the 780G video (I think

Re: Building a new desktop: hardware advice

2008-10-01 Thread Miles Bader
Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you Ron, that is a great point. Just last week I had a big fight with Western Digital because they require Windows to update the firmware of their harddrives. I will document this on my personal site sometime soon. What's your website URL? [I have

Re: Iceweasel problems - 3 of 3

2008-02-08 Thread Miles Bader
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /links/ is obsoleted by /links2/. The ecosystem of links derivatives kind of complicated Here's a page that explains some things; don't know how up-to-date (or accurate) it is: http://elinks.cz/history.html -Miles -- 97% of everything is grunge

Re: this list is on google groups

2008-02-08 Thread Miles Bader
ChadDavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't realize that until I joined a Google Group for Rails, went to my profile page and saw that Google could quickly display every post that I'd ever made to the debian list. Kind of scarey to think that all of my posts to a list were being kept on

Re: vim + LaTeX

2008-02-06 Thread Miles Bader
Anthony Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why has no one in this thread mentioned Lyx? I've just used it to produce two books for Lulu and have found it good for that purpose. Last time I tried Lyx it crashed every 5 minutes even with fairly simple documents... Texmacs is kind of interesting

Re: vim + LaTeX

2008-02-05 Thread Miles Bader
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Struggling to keep up with your typing? Slow page reformatting as you scroll? I've tried abiword many times over the years (mostly because it does seem so much more svelte and pretty than OO), but I always seem to end up going back to ooword Usually

Re: Will using kernel 2.6.24 make my laptop faster?

2008-01-31 Thread Miles Bader
Bob McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Generic kernels include drivers for all sorts of things, most of which you don't have. This can reduce the size of the kernel, which can translate into faster operations, as well as reduced space needed to hold it (and the modules you build, if any).

Re: aptitude crashing x?

2007-12-21 Thread Miles Bader
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Important! You should _not_ upgrade using telnet, rlogin, rsh, or from an X session managed by xdm, gdm or kdm etc on the machine you are upgrading. That is because each of those services may well be terminated during the upgrade which can result in an

Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?

2007-12-15 Thread Miles Bader
js [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pros: - It's Debian! - It's Free! - Great environment for Programming (better than ssh to linux development style) - More open source softwares support - Pisses off all the mac users on slashdot -Miles -- (\(\ (^.^) ()) *This is the cute bunny virus, please

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-10 Thread Miles Bader
David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ergonomic is not a word I'd use to describe the computers and terminals I'm familiar with from the late 70s. Most had truly awful keyboards. The Apple II, TRS-80, and VT-100 all had keyboards that just hit bottom, plastic-on-plastic, with no tactile

printer problem (prints postscript source, not document)

2007-12-09 Thread Miles Bader
My work has a combo copy-machine/fax/printer that works great with windows (and seems really fast), but I can't seem to get it working properly with debian/cups. The printer model is: Canon iR C4580F I managed to locate it on the net, and configured it with cups' webpage-configuration stuff,

Re: aptitude crashing x?

2007-12-08 Thread Miles Bader
David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've used aptitude since 2004 and, despite noise on the lists to the contrary, I've never had a problem with it. Seriously. Upgrading within X works just fine. [People offer all _sorts_ of advice on this list, much of it is good, but much of it is crap.]

Re: Which browser is better, firefox?

2007-11-03 Thread Miles Bader
Claudius Hubig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Debian just re-branded the Firefox because the name and the logo are not accepted as free by Debian. (or something like this...) The mozilla corp would not let them use the firefox name/logo without (unacceptable) restrictions. -Miles -- Though they

Re: going from XFCE to Gnome?

2007-11-02 Thread Miles Bader
Michael M. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yep, that's the problem with the DE's. You either accept the GNOME/KDE ways of doing things or you probably run into some incompatibilities somewhere down the line when you try to use other things. I have no clue what you are talking about here...

Re: GLIBC_2.4

2007-11-01 Thread Miles Bader
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See my other reponse to this thread. ~/bin at the front of $PATH is a security risk. No it's not. It an attacker is able to install stuff in ~/bin, they can (and almost certainly would) also modify your .profile (etc) to change PATH themselves. -Miles

Re: Query about Iceape, Iceweasel

2007-10-18 Thread Miles Bader
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: About what? Gmail did the right thing, given the information available. The peculiar constraints of this mailing list are just that; gmail has no way to detect them, so it's up to you as the reader to follow them (or instruct your MUA to do so). This

Re: Query about Iceape, Iceweasel

2007-10-18 Thread Miles Bader
Kelly Clowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This being? This being the idea that gmail has no way to detect that this is a mailing list. You're right, gmail can detect _that_. Based on this gmail could add a reply to list button ... and it could add a button with that (reply to list only)

Re: Query about Iceape, Iceweasel

2007-10-17 Thread Miles Bader
Kelly Clowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry about the To/CC thing, I was so busy writing that I forgot gmail is stupid about mailing lists. Note to self: time to bug google about that again. About what? Gmail did the right thing, given the information available. The peculiar constraints of

Re: (etch) Using aptitude after using dselect - any issues?

2007-10-08 Thread Miles Bader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Bannister) writes: dpkg seems to rely on dselect for some reason: It did a lonnng time ago, but it doesn't anymore. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dpkg --purge dselect dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of dselect: dpkg depends on dselect. When's the last time you

Re: df -h listing

2007-10-08 Thread Miles Bader
Rick Pasotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think you missed someting? like the -n flag? If you do a normal sort, its alphabetic. With -n, it is done numeric. That's true but it doesn't help anyway. 57K will sort larger than 2M. You could do it in two stages, first without -h, to sort, then with

Re: The effectiveness of 'make uninstall' command

2007-10-06 Thread Miles Bader
Wesley J. Landaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: make uninstall is rarely supported and most often doesn't work. There are certainly a fair number of packages that don't correctly support make uninstall, but I'm not sure it's accurate to say it's rarely supported or most often it doesn't work. For

Re: (etch) Using aptitude after using dselect - any issues?

2007-10-06 Thread Miles Bader
Mumia W.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's true, but that wasn't what he asked. Martin wanted to know if it is safe to use aptitude after having used dselect up to now, and the answer is no--unless certain steps are taken in aptitude. Christ Mumia, would you stop spreading this clueless FUD?

Re: bash expansion crap...

2007-10-02 Thread Miles Bader
You could also use the seq program instead (which comes with coreutils): for i in `seq 1 $TEST`; do ... I'm not sure if that's more or less portable than using all these various bash features... -Miles -- `The suburb is an obsolete and contradictory form of human settlement' -- To

Re: problem with postfix and libsasl2

2007-10-01 Thread Miles Bader
You need to install the package libsasl2-modules. -Miles -- My books focus on timeless truths. -- Donald Knuth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Spring clean

2007-10-01 Thread Miles Bader
Mumia W.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some people find that mixing aptitude and apt-get leads to trouble. Some people think the earth is flat. -Miles -- The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: LPR and CUPS

2007-09-25 Thread Miles Bader
David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For printers on UNIX hosts, you probably want to use lpr:// with the host's address in the URL. Of course, the host has to be configured to allow remote printing, and you'll need to know the queue name. Wow, that worked!! [I could only find addresses

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread Miles Bader
Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow. Mike takes the time to offer a common courtesy of informing the Debian community of how it's being perceived by Jane Average Girlfriend, and the community jumps all over him about various aspects. Why was it courteous? Despite the polite tone, it

Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX

2007-09-25 Thread Miles Bader
Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: using WordPerfect. When I switched to Linux, I was overwhelmed with the thought of learning LaTex. So I tried Lout. I found it great after a while. Think of it as a stripped-down LaTex. ... written by a language lawyer. -Miles -- It wasn't the

Re: binary packages versus source

2007-09-24 Thread Miles Bader
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The conventional wisdom seems to be that the kernel, libc, and various other compilation sensitive packages, such as mplayer, are indeed available in multiple, optimized flavors, and that for most other packages there isn't much to be gained by tweaking the

Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-24 Thread Miles Bader
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: even 708 old hardware seems to be running it fine for me. My objection is to having on my machine at all. I object to having python and tcl on my machine. -Miles -- `There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your

Re: Up-to-date Gnome versions?

2007-09-21 Thread Miles Bader
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The archives are replete with very valid reasons why people don't trust aptitude. Not really. A lot of vague rumors flying about though. -Miles -- We are all lying in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. -Oscar Wilde -- To

Re: Upgrading from Etch to Lenny

2007-09-21 Thread Miles Bader
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lighten up, Mike! You are reading into my reply a connotation which I did not intend and which is not supported by the context. If you want people to take you lightly, then add a smiley. The word humbug basically contains an implicit smiley -Miles

Re: Upgrading from Etch to Lenny

2007-09-21 Thread Miles Bader
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The word humbug basically contains an implicit smiley Bullshit Read the novel which keeps it alive today. He was complaining that Christmas is a fraud. Put an implicit smiley on that. In the 1800s perhaps, but most people do not use that word

more kernel booting woes

2007-09-21 Thread Miles Bader
In case anybody remembers, I was previously having problems with booting the debian standard kernel on my machine (a custom compiled kernel works fine). In that case, the problem was intermittent: sometimes it would dump me into the emergency shell, where I could just mount the root filesystem by

Re: Up-to-date Gnome versions?

2007-09-20 Thread Miles Bader
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (don't use aptitude on a non-stable distro!) Could you elaborate on this? I have been using aptitude on sid for about two years without problems. Various people seem to have a bug up their butt about aptitude (if apt-get was good enough for Jesus...).

Re: LPR and CUPS

2007-09-20 Thread Miles Bader
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my dirty little secret is that I've *never* had trouble with CUPS and don't understand all the problems that people have. Some of it I think is just inertia (used lp* for a long time why should I change) which is perfectly reasonable, IMO. And I

cgal (libcgal-dev) bizarre licensing

2007-09-05 Thread Miles Bader
libcgal-dev looks really handy ... but then on the website (www.cgal.org) I noticed it uses the obnoxious[1] QPL license, so I thought oh I can't use it with my (GPL) app. ... but then I noticed some parts of cgal actually use the LGPL, including the functionality I want to use (surface

Re: DPI change from Etch to Lenny?

2007-09-05 Thread Miles Bader
Masatran, R. Deepak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The DPI of my Debian Testing system has changed. The change, I inferred from xdpyinfo, is that Stable is at 96 DPI while Testing has unexpectedly changed to 75 DPI. Is this an intentional change, or is it a bug? I think the gdm init files _used_ to

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-09-02 Thread Miles Bader
Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But what if you've been using Ubuntu for seven months now, you have all your applications install, with all the libraries with version numbers like 2-3.2-ubuntu-1? Sure, it's not really a big deal. Those usually don't seem to be any more incompatible

Re: dumb question about compiz

2007-09-02 Thread Miles Bader
Nyizsnyik Ferenc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And forget ATI cards, their driver has... some discrepancies. Unless it's one of the older ATI cards which the free drivers support... those older cards are maybe not the right thing for the latest balls-to-the-wall games under windows, but for running

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Miles Bader
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Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Miles Bader
Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, upgrading from Ubuntu to Debian (And vice-versa) is nearly impossible and unsupported by the Debian community (If you did try it, we probably wouldn't be able to help you). Too many things are done differently

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Miles Bader
Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --} Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose --Janis Joplin I thought Kris Kristofferson wrote that song? Yes, he did. Janis sang it. -Miles -- Nah, there's no bigger atheist than me. Well, I take that back. I'm a cancer screening away from

Re: docBook or latex

2007-08-27 Thread Miles Bader
Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK, docbook is designed for creating manuals that can be turned into ps, pdf, text, or html without using external packages or requiring a huge meta-package install. Docbook also seems to have been designed by masochists it's so horribly

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