Re: Debian instalation

2003-12-06 Thread csj
On 6. December 2003 at 2:18PM +0200, "Mihai P. B. Stiucan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am an RedHat user and now I saw that RedHat is no more > available as a free distribution. So i want to switch to > Debian. I found some help on the www.debian.org web site, but I > still need some advices.

Re: [OT] voting (was: Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications))

2003-12-06 Thread csj
On 6. December 2003 at 11:07AM -0800, Jason Newquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Friends of mine postulated the idea of having "politician > > > duty" in much the same was as we have jury duty ... you get > > > a letter one day telling you it's

Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-06 Thread csj
On 7. December 2003 at 6:31AM +1100, bob parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 05:17, Paul Morgan wrote: [...] > > Ever heard of the Altair? Or the Apple I and II, the TRS-80 > > or Commodore Pet? > > Sure but they are not PCs and as brilliant as they were in > their day, they

Re: Info Problem

2003-12-06 Thread csj
On 5. December 2003 at 8:33AM -0800, "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:17:04AM -0500, Bijan Soleymani > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [...] > > For example if you hate dealing with info > > RTFL. > > It's not just the reader. It's the document structure.

Re: avoid running cron jobs on holidays

2003-12-05 Thread csj
On 5. December 2003 at 10:28AM -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Em Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:06:17 +0530, Sabar_Prabhu escreveu: > > > ur email id over the net n saw that ur an > > Which language is this? To whom are ye talking to? He's probably using a cellphone to send email, and so need to

Re: [OT] got a new isp

2003-12-05 Thread csj
On 4. December 2003 at 7:21PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > So I have a question: does anybody know of a way to compare ISP > performances? My simple method involves downloading an actual file, preferably a file that won't shrink too much when gzipped (e.g. Debian pac

Re: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-05 Thread csj
On 4. December 2003 at 3:22PM -0600, "Hoyt Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "csj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > Now I'm curious: is it possible to get rooted while on > > dialup? I'm thinking of a user with access to a slow

Re: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread csj
On 3. December 2003 at 5:52PM -0800, Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Monique Y. Herman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031203 16:59]: > > I have been wondering about the password-sniffing thing, too. > > If you send a password using ssh, isn't it encrypted? > > > > I suppose some debian develope

Re: When will packages.debian.org be available again?

2003-12-03 Thread csj
On 3. December 2003 at 2:26AM +, Chema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > apt-cache only works with installed packages, as the name > implies. $ apt-cache search tetris attack ; dpkg -L stax crack-attack - multiplayer OpenGL puzzle game like "Tetris Attack" stax - collection of puzzle games

Re: Getting CDRW to work in Debian

2003-12-01 Thread csj
On 30. November 2003 at 9:39PM -0500, Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 07:52:01AM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote > > > Create a file in /etc/modutils containing the following: > > > > options ide-cd ignore=\"hdc hdd\" > > alias scd0 sr_mod > > alias scd1 sr_mod > > pre-

Re: Modem detection and installation problems

2003-12-01 Thread csj
On 1. December 2003 at 5:22AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:15:16 -0800, > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 12:17:41PM -0500, Eric Dickner wrote: > > > I have a BCM V.90 56K Modem (PC

Re: DVD playing slow -- dropping frames?

2003-12-01 Thread csj
On 30. November 2003 at 8:15PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [1 ] > on Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:50:10AM +0800, csj insinuated: > > On 30. November 2003 at 4:03PM -0800, > > John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2

Re: DVD playing slow -- dropping frames?

2003-11-30 Thread csj
On 30. November 2003 at 4:03PM -0800, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 05:27:46PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > i'm trying to play DVDs. i should have the hardware for it > > -- an AMD Duron 950 MHz; an ATI rage fury pro video card; > > 512M of RAM. but, xine and ogle

[OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications)

2003-11-30 Thread csj
On 1. December 2003 at 7:51AM +0800, "David Palmer." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:01:22 -0800 > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 09:53:37PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 at 03:22 G

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications (was Re: communication structures crumbled)

2003-11-30 Thread csj
On 29. November 2003 at 11:07AM -0700, "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 at 14:56 GMT, Roberto Sanchez penned: > > > > I don't see how this is an issue. I found out the same way I > > get all my other news: from slashdot :-) > > > I read slashdot, too, and I r

Re: what I'm wondering is ...

2003-11-26 Thread csj
On 24. November 2003 at 5:34PM -0700, "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Will there be a sudden flood of the messages that weren't > processed in the last several days, or are they just lost? A five-day-old [OT] post of mine turned up yesterday. So I don't think "accepted" mails go

Re: Execute shutdown as other user than root

2003-11-26 Thread csj
On 26. November 2003 at 2:00AM +, Shri Shrikumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 18:33, Andreas Janssen wrote: > > Clive Menzies (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > On (11/11/03 16:28), Iago Sineiro wrote: > > >> I want to execute shutdown as other user than root. How to > >

Re: Importing Corel Draw

2003-11-26 Thread csj
On 25. November 2003 at 10:36PM +0100, Andreas von Heydwolff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Why not grab a spare machine, throw an older distro at it and > install PP from some leftover archive on a forgotten ftp > server. However, the Rumanian link found through Google at > http://www.linux

Re: Importing Corel Draw

2003-11-26 Thread csj
On 25. November 2003 at 10:56PM -0600, Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 25 November 2003 03:36 pm, Andreas von Heydwolff > wrote: > > There once was a free Linux port of PhotoPaint 9 from Corel > > running on Corel Wine. It was buggy but I had it running > > quite nicely on m

Re: *plonk* Re: Code of Conduct (was Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium)

2003-11-25 Thread csj
On November 20, 2003 at 8:50PM -0800, "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:49:14AM +, ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:23:48 +0800 > > csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >

Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server

2003-11-25 Thread csj
On November 21, 2003 at 8:13AM +0800, Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> is that the usual way to get rid of X windows if in case one > >> wants just to use the humble console? I know there is a > >> startx program, but no stopx. > > Preston> "CTRL+ALT+Backspace" will kill the X-server

Re: *plonk* Re: Code of Conduct (was Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium)

2003-11-25 Thread csj
wrote: > > > > > on Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:49:14AM +, ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:23:48 +0800 > > > > csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 17 Nov 20

Re: packages and archives failed.

2003-11-24 Thread csj
On November 24, 2003 at 5:39PM -0800, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 12:22:25AM +, Robin Gerard wrote: > > since a few days I can't reach the links: > > lists.debian.org and packages.debian.org > > > > Is there a problem with the servers debian ? > > Pleas

Re: Experiment: Neophyte versus Windows XP & Debian Woody

2003-11-20 Thread csj
On November 20, 2003 at 11:53AM -0800, Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >that's why I don't like alien (or other ways to install > rpms) - I'd much rather have tarball (either binary that goes > into /opt/package-version or 'normal' source tarball that I can > ./configure --prefix

Re: SVG graphics and mozilla

2003-11-19 Thread csj
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:36:30 +, Dave Howorth wrote: > > Mozilla crashes whenever I try to display an SVG graphic :( so > I'm trying to work out how to display the graphic instead :) > > I'm running Woody with mozilla 1.2.1 (Mozilla Debian Package > 1.2.1-2.bunk - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i6

Re: *plonk* Re: Code of Conduct (was Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium)

2003-11-18 Thread csj
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:49:14 +, ben wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:23:48 +0800 > csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:54:17 -0800, > > Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > > > on Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:19:48AM +0800, csj (

Re: Scripting Manuals

2003-11-18 Thread csj
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:15:30 -0600, Anil Gupte wrote: > > Where can I find some good scripting manuals that will teach me > (a newbie) to write bash shell scripts? http://www.shelldorado.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAI

Re: *plonk* Re: Code of Conduct (was Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium)

2003-11-18 Thread csj
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:27:44 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: > > csj([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:54:17 -0800, > > Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > > > on Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:19:48AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

Re: *plonk* Re: Code of Conduct (was Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium)

2003-11-18 Thread csj
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:54:17 -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:19:48AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:48:14 -0800, > > Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > As several (in

Re: Code of Conduct (was Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium)

2003-11-17 Thread csj
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:48:14 -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: [...] > As several (in or out of the) closet anarchists have replied > that self-control is apparently beyond their mein, I'll remind > them that consequences for actions are also their > responsibility. Including finding themselves igno

Re: Suggestions for a window manager to replace Enlightenment

2003-11-17 Thread csj
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:32:56 -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > After years of running E (without gnome), I might be tempted to > use something else. Any suggestions appreciated. > > Here's what I really like about E: > > - minimal screen real estate lost. I don't mind selecting an > applicat

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-16 Thread csj
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:26:08 -0500, Alec Berryman wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:24, Kent West wrote: > > Otto Wyss wrote: > > > So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no > > > root access) > > > > sudo will give you root access in Knoppix > > You can grab a real root prompt

Re: dvd ripping tools

2003-11-16 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:58:58 -0500, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 04:34:13AM +0200, Micha Feigin > wrote.. > [...] > I guess this is precisely the point. I need these 30-sec clips > to play out of the box (on Windoze) just like the trailers you > see at moviefone.com or

Re: k3b 1.0 ?

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:39:29 +0100, Joan Tur wrote: > > I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of > k3b... do you know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? The backend (that I read) it uses is already in Debian: dvd+rw-tools. It might also use a piece of software that will nev

Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:32:22 -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > > [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't > > > know, back in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a > > > affluent family walked into their High School armed with > > > rifles and pistols. They proceed- ed to blow away

Re: printing all of command executed in a script

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 05:05:21 +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:08:11AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:47:37PM +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: > > > As the subject above implys, I'd like to print all of commands > > > executed in a shell script. > > >

[OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:09:37 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:39:31 -0600, > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 02:22, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:56:11 -0600, > > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL P

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:35:54 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote: > [snip very good points] > > > > > The modern 'educational' process is there to teach people > > > how to read just well enou

Re: Debian for enterprise

2003-11-14 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:15:18 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: [...] > Red Hat is abandoning its old business model because that model > wasn't working for its investors. You (and everyone else) can > expect other distributions that have a business model basis to > also fail for the same reasons. What

Re: dvd ripping tools

2003-11-14 Thread csj
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:40:11 +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 17:23, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > I need to (legimately) rip a few 30 sec clips from some DVD's > > where I truly own the rights. The 30 sec clips will be used > > on our website where we advertise the DVD's for sale >

Re: Debian version

2003-11-13 Thread csj
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:43:50 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: [...] > unstable is always 'sid'. slink/potato/woody started life as > testing (afaik) before migrating to stable. I don't think there was "testing" before slink was released. IRC I started using Debian around the time potato was relea

Re: mailfilter bug? (Never mind)

2003-11-12 Thread csj
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:49:16 +0100, Nicolas Rueff wrote: > > Ainsi parla Roberto Sanchez le 315ème jour de l'an 2003: > > > csj wrote: [...] > > > I have in my my ~/.mailfilterrc a DENY rule for > > > "^Subject:.*Test" and ALLOW rules fo

Re: Portable shell scripts

2003-11-12 Thread csj
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:18:56 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > > csj wrote: > > Is there a way to write portable shell scripts. In > > particular, I've problems with built-ins setenv (tcsh) and > > export (bash). How do I define variables in tcsh and have > > them

mailfilter bug?

2003-11-11 Thread csj
Before I file a bug report, I'd like to confirm the behavior I describe below. I have in my my ~/.mailfilterrc a DENY rule for "^Subject:.*Test" and ALLOW rules for "marssociety" and "marssocietynewsletter": $ grep -Ei 'test|marssociety' ~/.mailfilterrc DENY=^Subject:.*Test ALLOW=^To:.*marssociet

Re: mplayer, ogle, unable to play DVD

2003-11-10 Thread csj
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:55:13 -0500 (EST), Sudarshana N Koushik wrote: > > I have one CDR/W drive and one DVD drive. cdrecord -scanbus > displays the foll. > scsibus0: > 0,0,0 0) 'LITE-ON ' 'LTR-32123S ' 'XS0R' Removable CD-ROM > 0,1,0 1) ' ATAPI ' '12X DVD-ROM ' '

Re: Trouble with Alsa 0.9.6-5, 2.4.22 AC97 audio and /dev/mixer under Gnome 2.4.0-1

2003-11-10 Thread csj
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:36:07 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Hi, > > In Gnome Volume Control 2.4.0, I try to set the volume, but get > the error > > Unable to open audio device '/dev/mixer'. > Please check that you have permissions to open 'dev/mixer' > and that you have sound support in your kern

Re: XMMS without X?

2003-11-10 Thread csj
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:31:56 -0800, Tom wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 02:23:05PM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 07:01:33AM +0800, csj wrote: > > > On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:22:08 -0500, > > > Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > > > If

Re: gnome root window (background) image?

2003-11-10 Thread csj
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:51:17 -0500, Mark Roach wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 08:51, John M Flinchbaugh wrote: > > what sets the background image in sid's gnome? > > Nautilus. I think Nautilus just sets the desktop icons and the root menu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

Re: Installing packages from source with apt

2003-11-10 Thread csj
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:42:02 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > What is the best way to compile and install packages from source with > apt? > > I don't want to use "dpkg -i" once the packages are built (as suggested > in the how-to) since dpkg doesn't check dependencies and may break the > system

Re: XMMS without X?

2003-11-10 Thread csj
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:22:08 -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 04:02:07PM -0800, Tom wrote: > > > Anyway, it bugs me to have my music stop when I leave X. Is > > there way to run XMMS without X? Something in the spirit of > > abcde (the coolest wrapper in the world)? >

Portable shell scripts

2003-11-10 Thread csj
Is there a way to write portable shell scripts. In particular, I've problems with built-ins setenv (tcsh) and export (bash). How do I define variables in tcsh and have them usable in bash too? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAI

Re: XMMS without X?

2003-11-09 Thread csj
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:14:51 -0800, Tom wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 04:02:07PM -0800, Tom wrote: > > I use xmms, xmms-flac, and xmms-shell with some custom > > scripts. I do all my interacting with xmms via the command > > line. (I've never understood why every SOUND PLAYER in the > > worl

Re: [OT] routing failed

2003-11-09 Thread csj
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:10:52 +0100, David Jardine wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 06:18:54AM +0800, csj wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:46:15 +0100, > > David Jardine wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 08:51:46AM +0800, csj wrote: > >

Re: [OT] routing failed

2003-11-08 Thread csj
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:46:15 +0100, David Jardine wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 08:51:46AM +0800, csj wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 at 01:24:17 +0100, > > David Jardine wrote: [...] > > Since I first got connected just three or four years ago, the > > Net it se

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up [RESOLVED]

2003-11-08 Thread csj
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 at 06:30:31 +0800, wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 at 11:17:10 +, > Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:19:45AM +0800, csj wrote: > > > > > OPTFLAGS = ... -I/usr/local/src/linux/include > > > >

Re: Can't build X (unstable and experimental)

2003-11-08 Thread csj
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:59:10 -0500, David Z Maze wrote: > > csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I can't build either the unstable or experimental versions of > > Debian's xfree86 packages (4.2 and 4.3). The build ends with the > > following error me

Re: [OT] routing failed

2003-11-08 Thread csj
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 at 01:24:17 +0100, David Jardine wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 10:30:00AM +0800, csj wrote: > > I'm using exim 3.36. When sending mail to one mailing list (most > > obviously *not* Debian because you're reading this post) I get > > the fo

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up [RESOLVED]

2003-11-07 Thread csj
At Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:17:10 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:19:45AM +0800, csj wrote: > > > OPTFLAGS = ... -I/usr/local/src/linux/include > > /usr/local/src/linux should be the linux kernel source code. Apparently yes. I was doing things b

Re: Any simple way to add modules w/o recompiling the kernel?

2003-11-07 Thread csj
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 on 07:30:19 -0500 (EST), Andrew Perrin wrote: > > In expectation of a new palm pilot arriving soon, I need to add > two modules to my system: usbserial and visor. What I've done > in the past is to do a make menuconfig; select the new modules; > make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --rev

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread csj
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 at 12:27:11 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [...] > On the other end of the scale, there are, as far as I know, no > OSS packages comparable to Reader Rabbit or Calendar Creator or > Act! or EndNote or Quark. You can compare Scribus to Quark. > Some are ok, but in many cases, not

Can't build X (unstable and experimental)

2003-11-07 Thread csj
I can't build either the unstable or experimental versions of Debian's xfree86 packages (4.2 and 4.3). The build ends with the following error messages: #BEGIN STDERR lnx_io.c: In function `KDKBDREP_ioctl_ok': lnx_io.c:90: error: structure has no member named `rate' lnx_io.c:98: error: structure

[OT] routing failed

2003-11-07 Thread csj
I'm using exim 3.36. When sending mail to one mailing list (most obviously *not* Debian because you're reading this post) I get the following error: 2003-11-07 09:54:55 routing failed for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unrouteable mail domain "localhost.invalid" *** Frozen (delivery error message) I know lo

Re: Voice dictation

2003-11-06 Thread csj
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:14:30 -0800, Bill Wohler wrote: > > Once upon a time, long, long, ago, I used ViaVoice from IBM to > do dictation. Pretty good stuff. > > Earlier this year I replaced my system; today I tried to > reinstall ViaVoice from the CD I had originally received from > IBM. No joy.

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up [RESOLVED]

2003-11-06 Thread csj
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:33:14 +, Colin Watson wrote: [...] > > > Applications that need kernel headers should make and use > > > sanitized private copies of the relevant interfaces in > > > kernel headers. They should never care about what happens > > > to be in /usr/include/{linux,asm}. > > >

Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-06 Thread csj
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:52:09 -0600, Greg Norris wrote: > > I thought this might provide some much-needed amusement... My > wife has put together a picture of SCO's crack legal team, > which pretty much explains their entire strategy. Feel free to > share! ;-) > >http://home.kc.rr.com/snidely/

[OT] Re: Red Hat

2003-11-05 Thread csj
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:46:48 +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: [...] > Dunno why I care really. I only bought boxed sets of 4.1, 4.2, > 7.1, 7.2, 7.3... and I suppose I would never have got to > Debian if I hadn't cut my teeth on RH. End of an era, just the > same. End of the branded boxed-set era?

Re: galeon 1.3.x fuckwittedness -- 1.2.5 fork, anyone?

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:52:17 +, Karsten M. Self wrote: [...] > A large part of the problem was that Galeon's former lead > developer, Marco Presenti Gritti drifted from "a browser for > power users" to "a browser for the masses". One of the best > things to happen to Galeon was that it's been

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:37:04 +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:47:17AM +0800, csj wrote: > > Maybe it's time to file a serious bug report against > > linux-kernel-headers. IMHO there should at least be two header > > packages, one for 2.4 and a

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:36:21 +1100, Rob Weir wrote: [...] > > Xine also fails to compile (ditto nvrec, a low overhead > > recording program). My conclusion: all video applications > > are affected. > > Eh? The only things that could possibly be affected are those > using kernel headers because

Re: Crash in fork.c on everything = install hosed

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:42:08 -0500, Mental Patient wrote: [...] > Last time I broke libc, I fixed it by booting off my rescue > (knoppix) cd. Mounted all the filesystems under > /mnt/debian. It looked like > > /mnt/debian > /mnt/debian/boot > /mnt/debian/usr > /mnt/debian/var > > etc... > > I

Re: GUI login screen and non-root shutdown...

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:56:47 -0600, Kent West wrote: [...] > If you have an X session going, and you switch to a VTx, you > can then log in as a different user and start a second X > session with a command like "startx -- :1". Go to a third VT > and start a third session with a command like "star

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 00:10:49 +0100, wsa wrote: > Well, I'm having serious problems with Mplayer, actually with > mencoder to be exact. I have a load of automated 'vcr' > recording scripts. These scripts have always worked and have > given out the right kind of files with the right kind of > bitr

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-03 Thread csj
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:03:30 +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 09:52:16PM +0800, csj wrote: > > What precisely does this package do? It's listed as a dependency > > of the latest libc6 packages (which I made the mistake of > > compiling then inst

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-03 Thread csj
At Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:12:07 +0100, wsa wrote: > > Thanks for explaining this in the other thread aswell. What i > wanted to ask, could this package be the cause of custom 2.4.22 > kernels not going past INIT (today's update fixed this problem) > which i and a few other people experienced over th

Re: Line editors

2003-11-03 Thread csj
At Sun, 2 Nov 2003 16:54:44 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 12:23:13PM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote: > > Look into rlwrap, which wraps pretty much anything with > > libreadline functionality. Very cool. It's even smart en

Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-11-03 Thread csj
Onc Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:49:23 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 07:36:36AM +0800, csj wrote: > > > I've stumbled upon the free (BSD-style license) shooter Cube > > <http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/>. Have any frag freaks here > >

Re: Line editors

2003-11-03 Thread csj
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:23:13 -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:22:24AM +0800, csj wrote: > } On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 17:13:01 +, > } Pigeon wrote: > } > } [...] > } > } > ed is /bin/ed - the *nix equivalent of Edlin... I use it for > } &

linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-03 Thread csj
What precisely does this package do? It's listed as a dependency of the latest libc6 packages (which I made the mistake of compiling then installing). The package appears to introduce massive breakage when compiling any program that links to some kernel function (e.g. mplayer and xawtv doing fram

Re: stability of libc6-i686?

2003-11-02 Thread csj
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:33:34 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > Unstable has a new package available: libc6-i686. Apparently > libc6 optimized for the 686 architecture. Now, this sounds > attractive to me, but the package warns of commercial apps > potentially blowing chunks. IBM's jdk is spec

Line editors

2003-11-02 Thread csj
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 17:13:01 +, Pigeon wrote: [...] > ed is /bin/ed - the *nix equivalent of Edlin... I use it for > simple/repetitive edits (like sticking "> " at the beginning of > each line of something I'm going to quote) and/or where I don't > want to lose the context of what I'm working

Re: Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused

2003-11-02 Thread csj
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 02:17:47 +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > > > csj wrote: > > > > >Real world case: scribus (probably the best GPL'ed or better > > >DTP app). > > I never did find out about this. If it doesn't work, perhaps > you should fil

Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn

2003-11-02 Thread csj
> On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 18:09, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 11:18:56AM -0600, Ray wrote: > > > > if you heard there was a movie/game/tech that had marketing > > running for 3 years before release, wouldn't that be a sign > > of major suckage to you too? Marketing can take many

Re: Looking for a better info-file viewer

2003-10-31 Thread csj
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:34:43 -0800, Tom wrote: > > God, I hate trying to read info documents. I tried pinfo: at > least I could navigate ok, but I still feel overwhelmed by the > # of links each page has. > > "Info" is such a generic term I'm having trouble searching for > alternatives. What ar

disappearing wallpaper

2003-10-31 Thread csj
It's not a big thing but my wallpaper disappeared after I "upgraded" to Gnome 2.4. I'm not using Gnome proper but simply running the "gnome-settings-daemon" as part of my fluxbox GDM session file: #!/bin/sh # # /etc/gdm/Sessions/fluxbox export LANG="en_US.UTF-8" gnome-settings-daemon & wmCalCloc

Re: AverTV Studio & Sound

2003-10-29 Thread csj
At Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:23:26 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 11:10, techlists wrote: > > bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 00:0f.0, irq: 11, latency: 64, memory: 0xcbdf > > e000 > > bttv0: detected: AVerMedia TVPhone98 [card=41], PCI subsystem ID is 14 > > 61:0003 > > bttv0: using: BT8

Re: Illegal characters in cron

2003-10-29 Thread csj
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:05:46 -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 05:46:59AM +0800, csj wrote: > | I'm having trouble getting the following to work in my > | crontab: > | > | 30 1 * * * mailfilter -M ~/.mailfilterrc -L > ~/auto

Illegal characters in cron

2003-10-28 Thread csj
I'm having trouble getting the following to work in my crontab: 30 1 * * * mailfilter -M ~/.mailfilterrc -L ~/autosave/log/mailfilter/mailfilter-`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`.log But the following appears to work: 30 1 * * * mailfilter -M ~/.mailfilterrc -L ~/autosave/log/mailfilter/mailfilter-

Re: palm on debian

2003-10-28 Thread csj
At Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:29:35 -0500, Erinn wrote: > > One time on Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 02:51:52PM +1300 this person > named Paul William wrote: > > > > I am getting a new palm (tunsten E) tomorrow. My last palm > > m105 was sold before I switched to Debian and worked fine in > > mdk. > > > > Is t

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-23 Thread csj
At Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:24:44 -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: > > [1 ] > * csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031018 03:22]: > > At Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:28:44 -0600, > > Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned: > >

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-21 Thread csj
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:45:48 +0800, David Palmer. wrote: [...] > What started the inciting were bombs dropped on Bin Laden and > his Taliban. Up until then, America had been supplying the > Taliban with arms, and the C.I.A. had been involved with field > assistance. When a gas and oil field was

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-20 Thread csj
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:05:02 -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > [...] > And as in all open source projects, it's not necessarily the > same people working on Emacs than on the Hurd. You can't tell > Emacs developers to stop and work on something else instead. Unless The Hurd could be implemente

Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax]

2003-10-19 Thread csj
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: [...] >think about it: when learning english the only challenge is > to learn how to pronounce words (and learn irregular > verbs). you built vocabulary by learning words, where you > pretty much only need to remember the word itself (in

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread csj
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:42:06 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:58:32 -0700, > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > ..for samples, google "SCO Linux". SCO claims they have > > > 350 and Microsoft 25 000 "coders", and they are up against > >

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread csj
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:07:12 -0700, Tom wrote: > > [...] > Maybe in 50 years the Muslims will be turning out killer cars > like Germany or killer stereos like Japan. Well, Muslims are turning out cars, and not just the killer cars some rogue religious fundamentalists use to make their point. You

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-19 Thread csj
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:38:52 +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: [...] > > Maybe in 50 years the Muslims will be turning out killer cars > > like Germany or killer stereos like Japan. > > Does it ever occur to you that their idea of progress is not to > emulate Germany, Japan or even America. The Iraqis

Re: Searching for an editor...

2003-10-19 Thread csj
At Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:24:37 -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > I understand the point about Emacs being as "graphical" as > > anything else in a certain way, but I can't believe *you* > > don't understand what I meant with "graphical". :-) > > I guess

Re: cdrecord problem recording audio CD

2003-10-18 Thread csj
At Sat, 18 Oct 2003 13:01:08 -0400, stan wrote: > > I'm using gramofile to record tracks from an LP and split them > into indivudal .wav fies. I've done this a lot in the past, and > have always been able to go to the individual tarcks on my CD > player. But,as I said, I've lost my notes on how to

Re: Decent browsers for Linux? Anything to replace IE?

2003-10-18 Thread csj
At Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:19:27 -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > Wathen, Metherion wrote: > > > Personally, I prefer Opera for linux, on my old box it loads > > at least twice as fast as Mozilla, not that I dislike > > mozilla, opera was just faster. have they got tabbed > > browsing in ie yet? >

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-18 Thread csj
At Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:28:44 -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned: > > > >english has a fairly simple a regular grammar so it's > >fairly easy to create english based programming language - > >the basic control structures are pretty

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-18 Thread csj
At Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:12:22 -0700, Don Werve wrote: [...] > The only reason that English-esque languages are prevalent is > that, in the early days, most of the programmers were native > English speakers, and as such, wrote tools and compilers that > best fit their native linguistic models. If

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