Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Curt
On 2022-02-01, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > 2022-02-01 17:20 GMT+05:00, Curt : >> On 2022-01-31, Stefan Monnier wrote: Technically correct, but Curt's response was good enough for Richard Owlett to make progress. Richard Owlett is very unlikely to be using a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
2022-02-01 17:20 GMT+05:00, Curt : > On 2022-01-31, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> Technically correct, but Curt's response was good enough for Richard >>> Owlett to make progress. Richard Owlett is very unlikely to be using >>> a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace. >> >> BTW, for the twisted-minded

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 12:32:24AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: that's not running a 64bit userspace on a 32bit kernel, Why not? You have a 64bit system on top, a 32bit kernel at the bottom and whether execution of those 64bit binaries is performed directly by the CPU or via binfmt + qemu is

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-31, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Technically correct, but Curt's response was good enough for Richard >> Owlett to make progress. Richard Owlett is very unlikely to be using >> a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace. > > BTW, for the twisted-minded it's probably possible to run a 64bit >

Re: CLARIFICATION --- Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/01/2022 12:12 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: ... My hardware can support either 32 or 64 bit OS. I *ONLY* use one or the other. My goal is to determine which I chose at installation. that should be somewhere in: /var/log/installer Yes but ;/ "dpkg --print-architecture"

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Montag, 31. Januar 2022 schrieb Richard Owlett: > >> 2. As superuser, how can I determine which is installed on a > >> different partition? > >>      [ My typical installation routine has been a descriptive > >> label for each root partition. But not always done ;{ ] > > > > If the superuser

Re: CLARIFICATION --- Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... > My hardware can support either 32 or 64 bit OS. > I *ONLY* use one or the other. > My goal is to determine which I chose at installation. that should be somewhere in: /var/log/installer songbird

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 04:37:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Technically correct, but Curt's response was good enough for Richard > > Owlett to make progress. Richard Owlett is very unlikely to be using > > a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace. > > BTW, for the twisted-minded it's

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 09:02:17PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: Greg Wooledge [2022-01-31 16:45:52] wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 04:37:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: BTW, for the twisted-minded it's probably possible to run a 64bit userspace on a 32bit kernel. No. Or at least, not that

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Mon 31 Jan 2022 at 21:02:17 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > Greg Wooledge [2022-01-31 16:45:52] wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 04:37:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> BTW, for the twisted-minded it's probably possible to run a 64bit > >> userspace on a 32bit kernel. > > No. Or at

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/31/2022 03:37 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Technically correct, but Curt's response was good enough for Richard Owlett to make progress. Richard Owlett is very unlikely to be using a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace. BTW, for the twisted-minded it's probably possible to run a 64bit

CLARIFICATION --- Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/31/2022 02:01 PM, Brian wrote: On Mon 31 Jan 2022 at 11:38:17 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: uname -m Are you saying that that doesn't reveal whether I've installed a 64 or a 32 bit release? It does not. It only reveals which kernel is running. As I said in another message, you

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 04:37:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Technically correct, but Curt's response was good enough for Richard > > Owlett to make progress. Richard Owlett is very unlikely to be using > > a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace. > > BTW, for the twisted-minded it's

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Brian
On Mon 31 Jan 2022 at 11:38:17 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >> uname -m > > > Are you saying that that doesn't reveal whether I've installed a 64 or a 32 > > bit release? > > It does not. It only reveals which kernel is running. > > As I said in another message, you could have a 32-bit

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Mon 31 Jan 2022 at 06:32:23 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot > various Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the > same release on a particular machine. > > 1. From current console, how can I determine which is

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Mon 31 Jan 2022 at 08:26:35 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 08:23:45AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > 1. From current console, how can I determine which is running? > > >[ equivalent of /etc/debian_version would be ideal ] > > > > Depends what you mean. The

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
> >> uname -m > Are you saying that that doesn't reveal whether I've installed a 64 or a 32 > bit release? It does not. It only reveals which kernel is running. As I said in another message, you could have a 32-bit userspace with a 64-bit kernel. If that's the case, then uname -m gives you

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-31, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/31/2022 06:37 AM, Curt wrote: >> On 2022-01-31, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot various >>> Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the same release >>> on a particular

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/31/2022 06:37 AM, Curt wrote: On 2022-01-31, Richard Owlett wrote: Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot various Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the same release on a particular machine. 1. From current console, how can I determine

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 03:24:51PM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > * 2022-01-31 06:32:23-0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot > > various Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the > > same release on a particular

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2022-01-31 06:32:23-0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot > various Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the > same release on a particular machine. > > 1. From current console, how can I determine which is running? >

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 08:23:45AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > 1. From current console, how can I determine which is running? > >[ equivalent of /etc/debian_version would be ideal ] > > Depends what you mean. The answer may also be "both" depending on what > you care about. E.g. many

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-31, Richard Owlett wrote: > Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot various > Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the same release > on a particular machine. > > 1. From current console, how can I determine which is running? > [

i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Richard Owlett
Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot various Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the same release on a particular machine. 1. From current console, how can I determine which is running? [ equivalent of /etc/debian_version would be ideal ] 2.

Re: btfs disk compatibility between i386 and amd64

2022-01-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
ion with /home in it's > >> own partition, and I'm wondering if I can expect to just > >> unlink /home and install a new amd64 version, and then link > >> in the home parition again. Later I realised my answer doesn't directly address your query regarding i386 (32 bits) -&

Re: btfs disk compatibility between i386 and amd64

2022-01-28 Thread Joseph Brenner
That's interesting in itself. Makes some sense. Thanks much. On 1/28/22, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 26 ian 22, 17:33:04, Joseph Brenner wrote: >> I was wondering if the on-disk data format for btrfs is >> compatible between the i386 and amd64 code bases-- >> e.g. would yo

Re: btfs disk compatibility between i386 and amd64

2022-01-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 26 ian 22, 17:33:04, Joseph Brenner wrote: > I was wondering if the on-disk data format for btrfs is > compatible between the i386 and amd64 code bases-- > e.g. would you expect to be able to swap data drives > between machines running either? In general yes. > I've

Re: how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-27 Thread a
Sorry, last word in last mail is wrong, it should be inconvenience, not  incontinence

Re: how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-26 Thread a
Thank David! my mail provider blocks your reply without informing me, so i can't receive it on time, i get your reply by some other way it's amazing that you get my history of getting help here, actually i've just bought 2nd-hand pc, it's core2 Q8200, 2.33G, it's my fastest pc though others

btfs disk compatibility between i386 and amd64

2022-01-26 Thread Joseph Brenner
I was wondering if the on-disk data format for btrfs is compatible between the i386 and amd64 code bases-- e.g. would you expect to be able to swap data drives between machines running either? I've got an old i386 installation with /home in it's own partition, and I'm wondering if I can expect

Re: how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-26 Thread a
Thank Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside! it's only for curiosity. for most users, their performance have little difference

Re: how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-26 Thread David Wright
On Wed 26 Jan 2022 at 05:44:50 (-0500), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2022-01-25 19:35, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 25 Jan 2022 at 01:37:29 (-0500), a wrote: > >> Thank David and Polyna-Maude! > >> > >> it's surprising that "The x64 binary are also somewhat larger than the > >>

Re: how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-26 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2022-01-25 19:35, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 25 Jan 2022 at 01:37:29 (-0500), a wrote: >> Thank David and Polyna-Maude! >> >> it's surprising that "The x64 binary are also somewhat larger than the >> i386 binaries" >> >> i compare some packages of bullseye for both arch, they happen to be

Re: how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-25 Thread David Wright
On Tue 25 Jan 2022 at 01:37:29 (-0500), a wrote: > Thank David and Polyna-Maude! > > it's surprising that "The x64 binary are also somewhat larger than the > i386 binaries" > > i compare some packages of bullseye for both arch, they happen to be > contrary > > though difference is small and IMO

Re: how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 03:29:17PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 09:18:55AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > it's surprising that "The x64 binary are also somewhat larger than the > > > i386 > > > binaries" > > > > There is no fundamental reason why a 64bit

Re: how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 09:18:55AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > it's surprising that "The x64 binary are also somewhat larger than the i386 > > binaries" > > There is no fundamental reason why a 64bit architecture (like amd64) would > require more code than a 32bit architecture (like x86),

Re: how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-25 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 08:30:20PM -0500, a wrote: > i've installed debian 11 for both arch on same PC, amd64 seems faster > > is there some tool to demonstrate performance of PC? Regardless of performance you should be more concerned that 32-bit x86 parts of the Linux kernel have more

Re: how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-24 Thread a
Thank David and Polyna-Maude! it's surprising that "The x64 binary are also somewhat larger than the i386 binaries" i compare some packages of bullseye for both arch, they happen to be contrary though difference is small and IMO has little impact on performance firefox-esr for i386: size=

Re: how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-24 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2022-01-24 22:02, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 24 Jan 2022 at 20:30:20 (-0500), a wrote: >> i've installed debian 11 for both arch on same PC, amd64 seems faster >> >> is there some tool to demonstrate performance of PC? >> Yes there is standardized benchmark available. LinPack for example,

Re: how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-24 Thread David Wright
On Mon 24 Jan 2022 at 20:30:20 (-0500), a wrote: > i've installed debian 11 for both arch on same PC, amd64 seems faster > > is there some tool to demonstrate performance of PC? > > they say it's not possible to say which is faster without defining > computing task > > is performance difference

how to test and compare performance of bullseye for i386 and amd64

2022-01-24 Thread a
i've installed debian 11 for both arch on same PC, amd64 seems faster is there some tool to demonstrate performance of PC? they say it's not possible to say which is faster without defining computing task is performance difference significant if computing task is web browsing

Re: Arquitetura i386 para amd64

2017-08-03 Thread Valentim Carlos
Valentim Carlos Em 01 de ago de 2017 às 14:26, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <h...@debian.org> escreveu: Olha, trocar um Debian de i386 para amd64 é possível via "Multiarch". Chamamos isso de "cross-grade". Mas é uma dor de cabeça que não é recomendada nem para quem é

Re: Arquitetura i386 para amd64

2017-08-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Olha, trocar um Debian de i386 para amd64 é possível via "Multiarch". Chamamos isso de "cross-grade". Mas é uma dor de cabeça que não é recomendada nem para quem é usuário avançado. Se for simples reinstalar, reinstale. Se não for, e quiser tentar um cross-grade, *FAÇA BACK

Re: Arquitetura i386 para amd64

2017-08-01 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Le mardi 01 août 2017 à 20:33 +, Paulo Alexandre A.P. de Oliveira a écrit : > Em princípio se não houver umas magias de shellscript, tens que > reinstalar com amd64 Não há, é impossível. Um SO de 32 bits não tem como executar código 64 bits, porque ele não tem como gerir os endereços de

Re: Arquitetura i386 para amd64

2017-08-01 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Le mardi 01 août 2017 à 20:13 +, Valentim Carlos a écrit : > gostaria de saber se tem como migrar a Arquitetura > Estrangeira i386 para amd64 ? Não. Não há como um SO 32 bits executar código 64. -- skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat  Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra +55 (61) 354

Re: Arquitetura i386 para amd64

2017-08-01 Thread Paulo Alexandre A.P. de Oliveira
rde, > > Estou com uma máquina Debian em arquitetura i386 porém com processador > amd64, não sei o motivo pelo qual foi instalado 32 bits, todas outras > máquinas que instalei, estão em amd64 e em multiarch nas necessidades. > Bom, gostaria de saber se tem como migrar a Arquitetura Estra

Re: Arquitetura i386 para amd64

2017-08-01 Thread Valentim Carlos
ou com uma máquina Debian em arquitetura i386 porém com processador amd64, não sei o motivo pelo qual foi instalado 32 bits, todas outras máquinas que instalei, estão em amd64 e em multiarch nas necessidades. Bom, gostaria de saber se tem como migrar a Arquitetura Estrangeira i386 para amd64 ? Ob

Arquitetura i386 para amd64

2017-08-01 Thread Valentim Carlos
i386 para amd64 ? Obrigado Valentim Carlos

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Jul 2017 at 11:34:20 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 05 July 2017 07:58:26 Matthew Crews wrote: > > > >Now that I know that I'm 64 bit capable. Would I see any benefit in > > >switching? > > > > I would switch to AMD64 if you are comfortable with reinstalling > > Debian. You

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 05 July 2017 07:58:26 Matthew Crews wrote: > >Now that I know that I'm 64 bit capable. Would I see any benefit in > >switching? > > I would switch to AMD64 if you are comfortable with reinstalling > Debian. You will see a performance increase, even on a minimally > spec'd system.

RE: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-05 Thread Matthew Crews
>Now that I know that I'm 64 bit capable. Would I see any benefit in >switching? I would switch to AMD64 if you are comfortable with reinstalling Debian. You will see a performance increase, even on a minimally spec'd system. (I'm not sure its possible to convert a live install from 32-bit to

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-05 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2017-07-05 06:26 (UTC-0500): > Now that I know that I'm 64 bit capable. Would I see any benefit in > switching? > [I don't have any interest in grapic intensive apps. I don't do anything > that my old WinXP machine didn't handle OK.] Is more than 3G RAM is installed?

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/04/2017 02:10 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2017-07-04 20:19 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote: On 04-07-17, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2017-07-04 17:33 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote: Several. To see your cpu, type lscpu. Architecture is first in output. That's not correct, or at least not useful. The

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/04/2017 01:20 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Curt composed on 2017-07-04 17:53 (UTC): Richard Owlett wrote: Thank you. I've i686 processors on both machines within reach [as I suspected] I'll have to spend some time on man page for inxi to fully appreciate it. But i686 is 32 bit isn't it?

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-04 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2017-07-04 20:19 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 04-07-17, Sven Joachim wrote: >> On 2017-07-04 17:33 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote: >> > >> > Several. To see your cpu, type lscpu. Architecture is first in output. >> >> That's not correct, or at least not useful. The architecture is what >>

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-04 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2017-07-04 18:39 +, Curt wrote: > On 2017-07-04, Sven Joachim wrote: >>> >>> Several. To see your cpu, type lscpu. Architecture is first in output. >> >> That's not correct, or at least not useful. The architecture is what >> uname(2) reports, and if the system is

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-04 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-04, Sven Joachim wrote: >> >> Several. To see your cpu, type lscpu. Architecture is first in output. > > That's not correct, or at least not useful. The architecture is what > uname(2) reports, and if the system is currently running a 32-bit > kernel, it will be

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-04 Thread Felix Miata
Curt composed on 2017-07-04 17:53 (UTC): > Richard Owlett wrote: >> Thank you. I've i686 processors on both machines within reach ]as I >> suspected] >> I'll have to spend some time on man page for inxi to fully appreciate it. > But i686 is 32 bit isn't it? Some are 32, others are 64. 'cat

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-04 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 04-07-17, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2017-07-04 17:33 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote: > > > On 04-07-17, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> I have been running Debian i386 since Squeeze. At that time it was required > >> as I was considering supporting some donated 32 bit machines at church. I > >> don't

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-04 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2017-07-04 17:33 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 04-07-17, Richard Owlett wrote: >> I have been running Debian i386 since Squeeze. At that time it was required >> as I was considering supporting some donated 32 bit machines at church. I >> don't recall what processor was in my personal machine

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-04 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-04, Richard Owlett wrote: >> informations. >> > > Thank you. I've i686 processors on both machines within reach ]as I > suspected] > I'll have to spend some time on man page for inxi to fully appreciate it. But i686 is 32 bit isn't it? > I'm not aware of

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/04/2017 10:33 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote: On 04-07-17, Richard Owlett wrote: I have been running Debian i386 since Squeeze. At that time it was required as I was considering supporting some donated 32 bit machines at church. I don't recall what processor was in my personal machine at that

Re: Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-04 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 04-07-17, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have been running Debian i386 since Squeeze. At that time it was required > as I was considering supporting some donated 32 bit machines at church. I > don't recall what processor was in my personal machine at that time. I've > never had cause to investigate

Switching from Debian i386 to AMD64

2017-07-04 Thread Richard Owlett
I have been running Debian i386 since Squeeze. At that time it was required as I was considering supporting some donated 32 bit machines at church. I don't recall what processor was in my personal machine at that time. I've never had cause to investigate the processors in my current laptops

Re: Distro i386 ou amd64

2016-04-27 Thread Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro
2016-04-27 13:56 GMT-03:00 SamuelOPH : > > Mas de fato 32 bits deve ser usado apenas se realmente necessário. Isso só na arquitetura Intel, onde o i386 tem menos registros que a AMD64, impedindo otimizações de compilação. Em arquiteturas Risc, pode-se ter o sistema

Re: Distro i386 ou amd64

2016-04-27 Thread SamuelOPH
Em 27 de abril de 2016 12:51, Diego Rabatone Oliveira escreveu: > Se você optar por um sistema 32bits não irá conseguir fazer uso dos 8Gb de > RAM que seu computador terá. Na verdade isso só é problema de Windows, com Linux você pode usar até 64Gb de memória usando um SO

Re: Distro i386 ou amd64

2016-04-27 Thread Diego Rabatone Oliveira
Caro Guilherme, com relação a AMD64 ou i386, não tenha dúvida, vá de AMD64. Se você optar por um sistema 32bits não irá conseguir fazer uso dos 8Gb de RAM que seu computador terá. E em termos de drivers, como o Leandro comentou, a compatibilidade hoje em dia com AMD64 é tão boa quanto, senão

Re: Distro i386 ou amd64

2016-04-27 Thread Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro
2016-04-27 12:12 GMT-03:00 Guilherme Oliveira Magalhães <magalhaes.guiolive...@gmail.com>: > Bom dia caros, estou retornando aos estudos deste SO, e fico no momento na > dúvida se os módulos dos drivers para os modelos i386 ou amd64 são estáveis, > no que tange ao hardware de rede

Distro i386 ou amd64

2016-04-27 Thread Guilherme Oliveira Magalhães
Bom dia caros, estou retornando aos estudos deste SO, e fico no momento na dúvida se os módulos dos drivers para os modelos i386 ou amd64 são estáveis, no que tange ao hardware de redes sem fio. Eu possuo 2 receptores Wireless externos USB, utilizo apenas um no Windows segundo dica de um

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2014-11-16 Thread unciegobailando
Hola gente linda de la lista !! (y tambien a la otra no tan linda que con profundo desagrado tambien suelo leer y repudiar en silencio) Me surgio un antiguo fantasma del pasado en lo referente a arquitecturas. Ese fantasma me supo susurrar al oido que los sistemas -compilaciones- para 32

Re: [OT] duda en sistemas i386 y amd64 (32 y 64 bits)

2014-11-16 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:33:56 -0300, unciegobailando escribió: (...) Y a pesar de esto no dejo de leer cada tanto en la web recomendaciones o directamente experiencias en las que se recomienda instalar un sistema de 32 bits sobre un procesador amd64 para ganar agilidad o velocidad. Si mal

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2014-07-24 Thread Listeiro 037
Não estou conseguindo instalar pacotes da arquitetura i386 em arquitetura amd64. Mesmo após o --add-architecture a coisa não se resolve. Parece que o ia32-libs mudou de nome ou há muitos pacotes quebrados. No Wheezy não há problema. Alguém consegue instalá-los ou aguarda-se a resolução de

Re: Arquitetura i386 na amd64 em Jessie não instala

2014-07-24 Thread Listeiro 037
Aqui ele instala nada do tipo pacote:i386. P. ex: wine:i386. Em Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:16:00 -0300 Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA, Leandro l...@dutras.org escreveu: 2014-07-24 10:59 GMT-03:00 Listeiro 037 listeiro_...@yahoo.com.br: Não estou conseguindo instalar pacotes da arquitetura i386 em

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2013-06-06 Thread Brad Alexander
Hello, As the subject says, I'm having problems installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on my amd64 sid system. The problem is that I am using the cisco anyconnect client, which requires the i386 version, but when I attempt to install at one (the amd64 version is installed), I get a bunch of dependency

[Solved] Installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on amd64 system

2013-06-06 Thread Brad Alexander
Was able to get this going by pulling the package from experimental... Thanks all, --b On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, As the subject says, I'm having problems installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on my amd64 sid system. The problem is that I am using

Re: Installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on amd64 system

2013-06-06 Thread Kailash
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:26:56 -0400 Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, As the subject says, I'm having problems installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on my amd64 sid system. The problem is that I am using the cisco anyconnect client, which requires the i386 version, but when I attempt

Re: Installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on amd64 system

2013-06-06 Thread Klaus
On 06/06/13 13:26, Brad Alexander wrote: Hello, As the subject says, I'm having problems installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on my amd64 sid system. The problem is that I am using the cisco anyconnect client, which requires the i386 version, but when I attempt to install at one (the amd64 version

Re: seperar i386 de amd64

2011-02-24 Thread yordanisp
lo hago yo o si vas a descargar las dos: --arch=i386, amd64 --method http si vas a descargar desde http o ftp Y al final seleccionas la ruta donde vas a guardar local tu mirror. Si utilizas un externo, lo montas y le especificas la ruta dentro de él. Saludos y espero te sirva. -- Yordanis

Re: seperar i386 de amd64

2011-02-24 Thread bameda
amigos necesito alguna forma de separar los repos del tipo i386 de los que son amd64 porque me ocupan mucho espacio en el disco duro y se que solo usare los de i386, los de amd64 nunca los usare, como puedo hacer esto, los repos los tengo en un disco de externo. es medio bestia (o mas bien, bestia

[Fwd: Re: seperar i386 de amd64]

2011-02-24 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
a las 17:40 +0100, juan alejandro martines linares escribió: Hola amigos necesito alguna forma de separar los repos del tipo i386 de los que son amd64 porque me ocupan mucho espacio en el disco duro y se que solo usare los de i386, los de amd64 nunca los usare, como puedo hacer esto, los repos los

Re: seperar i386 de amd64

2011-02-24 Thread Roberto José Blandino Cisneros
Por que no haces dos carpetas una i386 y otra amd64 # mkdir i386 amd64 # mv *amd64.deb amd64 # mv *i386.deb i386 El 23 de febrero de 2011 10:40, juan alejandro martines linares isla...@infomed.sld.cu escribió: Hola amigos necesito alguna forma de separar los repos del tipo i386 de los que

seperar i386 de amd64

2011-02-23 Thread juan alejandro martines linares
Hola amigos necesito alguna forma de separar los repos del tipo i386 de los que son amd64 porque me ocupan mucho espacio en el disco duro y se que solo usare los de i386, los de amd64 nunca los usare, como puedo hacer esto, los repos los tengo en un disco de externo. gracias de antemano

Re: seperar i386 de amd64

2011-02-23 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El mié, 23-02-2011 a las 17:40 +0100, juan alejandro martines linares escribió: Hola amigos necesito alguna forma de separar los repos del tipo i386 de los que son amd64 porque me ocupan mucho espacio en el disco duro y se que solo usare los de i386, los de amd64 nunca los usare, como puedo

Re: -i386 to amd64

2010-03-02 Thread Charles Kroeger
Anyway, I think the huge **WARNING** notes should have been enough to let you know the whole thing was not without risk ;) Regards, Angus You're right Angus, and I did take precautions, that is why I was still able to post to the newsgroup, however I thought maybe an extra emphasis

Re: -i386 to amd64

2010-03-02 Thread Charles Kroeger
I think I'll just wait for: aptitude -a amd64 --arch_upgrade Surely that's right around the corner... Maybe for Squeeze? :) James Damn right, keep a watch on your /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg file for an upgrade. -- C. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: -i386 to amd64

2010-03-02 Thread Angus Hedger
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Charles Kroeger ckro...@frankensteinface.com wrote: snip You're right Angus, and I did take precautions, that is why I was still able to post to the newsgroup, however I thought maybe an extra emphasis wouldn't hurt. I'm not confident that getting the

Re: -i386 to amd64

2010-03-01 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 17:44 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: I would hope someone knows a command line solution. Is there a way to safely morph the old architecture into the new, like purging the i686 kernel for instance or configuring APT or dpkg to upgrade with amd64 versions. You were

Re: -i386 to amd64

2010-03-01 Thread Charles Kroeger
You were already told that a reinstall is most definitely the easiest, fastest and safest procedure. But if you want to try it: http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/debian_arch_up/ Thanks for all the suggestions. I had a go with the above site using the powerful command: #dpkg

Re: -i386 to amd64

2010-03-01 Thread Angus Hedger
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Charles Kroeger ckro...@frankensteinface.com wrote: snip Thanks for all the suggestions. I had a go with the above site using the powerful command: #dpkg --force-depends --force-architecture --force-overwrite -i to install the suggested libs:

RE: -i386 to amd64

2010-03-01 Thread James Zuelow
I think I'll just wait for: aptitude -a amd64 --arch_upgrade Surely that's right around the corner... Maybe for Squeeze? :) James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: -i386 to amd64

2010-02-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Andrew Sackville-West put forth on 2/27/2010 7:53 PM: It's been a while, but as I understand it, there is an -amd64 kernel available in the -i686 repos, but that doesn't mean you're running in the 64 bit architecture. That requires a number of other things to happen, including changing to a

Re: -i386 to amd64

2010-02-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
However, it has transpired that it wasn't that simple to change from the i686 kernel to amd64 even though my 32 packages will work under the amd64 kernel Apt and Dpkg for instance don't seem to know this has happened. Others have already answered the how to move from i386 to amd64, but I'll

-i386 to amd64

2010-02-27 Thread Charles Kroeger
I've made a new computer my first ever and I'm very pleased with it. It uses an AMD phenon II 505 build cpu on an Ausus board with 8GB ram. I used an amd64 net-installer to create the partitions and swap file on the new and larger hard drive of the new machine. Before moving an image of the old

Re: -i386 to amd64

2010-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 05:44:46PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: [...] Before moving an image of the old [i686] partition to the new computer I installed the amd64 kernel. I completed the install by using gparted from a rescue disk to merge the larger new partition with the old smaller one from

Re: ia32-apt-get or libc6-i386 on amd64, debian sid?

2009-07-21 Thread MRH
Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote: 2009/7/19 MRH misiek_s...@o2.pl: I'm pretty confused with the latest changes in sid on amd64. Do ia32-* packages replace -i386 packages or they are alternatives? After 'upgrading' to ia32-apt-get I lost wine (however I found there is ia32-wine, which unfortunately is

Re: ia32-apt-get or libc6-i386 on amd64, debian sid?

2009-07-20 Thread Svenn Are Bjerkem
2009/7/19 MRH misiek_s...@o2.pl: I'm pretty confused with the latest changes in sid on amd64. Do ia32-* packages replace -i386 packages or they are alternatives? After 'upgrading' to ia32-apt-get I lost wine (however I found there is ia32-wine, which unfortunately is not displayed in synaptic

ia32-apt-get or libc6-i386 on amd64, debian sid?

2009-07-19 Thread MRH
I'm pretty confused with the latest changes in sid on amd64. Do ia32-* packages replace -i386 packages or they are alternatives? After 'upgrading' to ia32-apt-get I lost wine (however I found there is ia32-wine, which unfortunately is not displayed in synaptic and I'm not sure if it replaces

Re: ia32-apt-get or libc6-i386 on amd64, debian sid?

2009-07-19 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 14:09, MRHmisiek_s...@o2.pl wrote: I'm pretty confused with the latest changes in sid on amd64. Do ia32-* packages replace -i386 packages or they are alternatives? After 'upgrading' to ia32-apt-get I lost wine (however I found there is ia32-wine, which unfortunately is

Re: E7400 - i386 and AMD64

2009-07-11 Thread lee
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 03:15:27PM -0300, Pablo Armando wrote: Should we use Debian amd64 here o i386? Why we see 4 CPU's when we only have 2 CPUs (Intel Core 2 Duo)? Is stable amd64 or it is not recommended for a server setup? You'll want to use amd64, it's stable. Even before

RE: E7400 - i386 and AMD64

2009-07-11 Thread Pablo Armando
-Mensaje original- De: lee [mailto:l...@yun.yagibdah.de] Enviado el: Sábado, 11 de Julio de 2009 03:13 p.m. Para: debian-user@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: E7400 - i386 and AMD64 Did you use any weird kernel settings when you made the kernel for your server? Did you try an older (like

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