Le 16.10.2013 00:42, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
I'm trying to figure out what kinds of things you see programmers
working on that don't need serious knowledge of the underlying
operating system, computer hardware, and i/o environment.
I do not think every programmer needs serious knowledge
On 10/15/2013 6:50 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 2:26 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Geeze Jerry, you're just so wrong, on so many things.
What's a coder? In over 40 years of programming, I've met many
programmers, but no coders. Some were better than others
On 10/15/2013 7:40 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2013 18:28, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Why? Do you know how a TV signal is encoded at the station? How it
is modulated onto the carrier? The operation of the RF and IF strips
in your TV? The frequencies of the local
On 10/15/2013 7:39 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Sorry for the broken thread. Let me try this again.
Le 15.10.2013 18:28, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Why? Do you know how a TV signal is encoded at the station? How it
is modulated onto the carrier? The operation of the RF and IF
On 10/15/2013 6:42 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Sorry for the broken thread. Let me try this again.
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 2:26 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Geeze Jerry, you're just so wrong, on so many things.
What's a coder? In over 40 years of programming, I've met many
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 6:50 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 2:26 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Geeze Jerry, you're just so wrong, on so many things.
What's a coder? In over 40 years of programming, I've met many
programmers, but no coders. Some
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Why? Do you know how a TV signal is encoded at the station? How it
is modulated onto the carrier? The operation of the RF and IF strips
in your TV? The frequencies of the local oscillator(s) being used?
How the RF signal is demodulated? How the video and audio are
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 07:53:50 +1300
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 09:19:18PM +0100, Joe wrote:
though most include routers and other
useless stuff.
..when it is normally customary to refer to them as routers.
Pedants might call them
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Le 13.10.2013 15:40, Joel Rees a écrit :
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:11 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
[...] if you think that people are free to
give themselves the label they want, so you must accept that other
are also
free to give the labels they want.
Long time ago, I studied
Le 13.10.2013 14:41, Joel Rees a écrit :
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 6:21 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 11.10.2013 23:06, Brian a écrit :
are you root?
It does only means you own the system. Not that you can claim to be
a
sysadmin. I own my car. I am not a mechanic, but I
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 14:41 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
In some countries, owning a car does not authorize you to tinker
with it.
I did not known that. Not even changing a wheel or repairing motor,
direction?
Usually in those countries, e.g. in Germany, you are allowed to
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 14:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 14:41 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
In some countries, owning a car does not authorize you to tinker
with it.
I did not known that. Not even changing a wheel or repairing motor,
direction?
Le 13.10.2013 20:41, Chris Bannister a écrit :
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:11:01AM +0200,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
If you own a system you control it and can do whatever you like
with it.
You can give yourself whatever label you want (sysadmin,
superuser, top
dog etc) - it matters
Le 12.10.2013 18:10, msl09 a écrit :
Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it
suggested me to remove most of my system, including apt, I thought it
was going to upgrade it so I confirmed it. I had to reinstall apt
from
the debian packages website.
That's why I do
Le 13.10.2013 04:18, green a écrit :
Tom H wrote at 2013-10-12 18:40 -0500:
I suspect that the problem's in the examples above are simply
PEBKAC.
I use aptitude, and find it to be *more* useful than apt because of
its *interactive* dependency resolver. Probably if people have
trouble
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 15:27 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
But, it definitely is a user's... no, sorry, a root's error. A root
should not act or think like a user. (damn, outside of linux context,
that phrase really means nothing...)
:D
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Le 14.10.2013 10:37, Joe a écrit :
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 07:53:50 +1300
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 09:19:18PM +0100, Joe wrote:
though most include routers and other
useless stuff.
..when it is normally customary to refer to them as
Le 13.10.2013 19:44, Frank McCormick a écrit :
On 13/10/13 01:02 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 01:10:14PM -0300, msl09 wrote:
Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it
suggested me to remove most of my system, including apt, I thought
it
was going
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
I know I wont teach that to anyone here, but modems are not computing
stuff, at all. They are simply here to transform numeric signals to
analogical ones, and vice versa.
Well and just to continue the level of pedanticism we've gotten to
- there
should make backups. Training this does work, but isn't perfect, so
we still could make a mistake.
Regarding my example, the situation happened 1 year ago, the same thing
happened 2 years before that, it was the first time I tried using
aptitude, because it seemed more user friendly
On 14/10/13 09:52 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 13.10.2013 19:44, Frank McCormick a écrit :
On 13/10/13 01:02 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 01:10:14PM -0300, msl09 wrote:
Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it
suggested me
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:41 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 13.10.2013 14:41, Joel Rees a écrit :
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 6:21 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 11.10.2013 23:06, Brian a écrit :
are you root?
It does only means you own the system. Not that you
Le 14.10.2013 17:01, Joel Rees a écrit :
I'm pretty sure the LPI site is translated into French, too. Yep.
I have absolutely no problem with English... at least when it is
written :) my speaking is probably ugly, since I can rarely practice it.
Check it out:
Le 14.10.2013 16:38, Frank McCormick a écrit :
On 14/10/13 09:52 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 13.10.2013 19:44, Frank McCormick a écrit :
On 13/10/13 01:02 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 01:10:14PM -0300, msl09 wrote:
Oh I have fond memories of aptitude
On 10/14/2013 4:37 AM, Joe wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 07:53:50 +1300
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 09:19:18PM +0100, Joe wrote:
though most include routers and other
useless stuff.
..when it is normally customary to refer to them as routers.
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:12:32 -0400
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
Maybe where you are, but not in the world scheme of things.
A router is a specific box. A (A)DSL modem may also contain a
firewall, etc. But most (A)DSL modems, cable modems, etc., only have
one Ethernet port.
Catherine Gramze writes:
[A cable modem] doesn't do any modulating or demodulating. It simply
allows the packets to go from one network to the other.
Yes it does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docsis
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On 10/14/2013 9:28 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:12:32 -0400
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
Maybe where you are, but not in the world scheme of things.
A router is a specific box. A (A)DSL modem may also contain a
firewall, etc. But most (A)DSL modems,
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:
Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it
suggested me to remove most of my system, including apt, I thought it
was going to upgrade it so I confirmed it. I had to reinstall apt from
the debian packages website.
In this new installation
On 2013-10-13 Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
I think that aptitude works quite well for the easiest cases. And it is
the only instrument I know which allow to see dependency chains. It was
dselect some time ago which could do it too as I know, but now it seems
to be dead. BTW, it provides with good
On Sun, 2013-10-13 at 12:24 +0200, Morten Bo Johansen wrote:
On 2013-10-13 Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
I think that aptitude works quite well for the easiest cases. And it is
the only instrument I know which allow to see dependency chains. It was
dselect some time ago which could do it too as I
On 2013-10-13 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
apt-mark hold package
or
echo package hold | dpkg --set-selections
or
Synaptic's lock option
Sure. But the gist of the discussion to me was the point of view of the
naive user, i.e. how the two package managers behave out of the box.
No compelling arguments
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 6:21 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 11.10.2013 23:06, Brian a écrit :
are you root?
It does only means you own the system. Not that you can claim to be a
sysadmin. I own my car. I am not a mechanic, but I anyway have the
*authorizations* to tinker it.
.
No compelling arguments have been provided that one is better than the
other in that respect.
For what it's worth: Every time I try to use Aptitude, I find myself
confused and/or not getting the results I need. As a result, I keep
using apt-*
Miles Fidelman
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On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
J[...]
Now.. as to the larger question at hand:
Personally, I run, support, and configure:
- my own computers (laptop, development sandbox under my desk, android
smartphone, android tablet, backup storage
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:11 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
[...] if you think that people are free to
give themselves the label they want, so you must accept that other are also
free to give the labels they want.
Long time ago, I studied the dark side of computer sciences, and the
Joel Rees wrote:
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
J[...]
Now.. as to the larger question at hand:
snip
Bottom Line:
- I certainly feel comfortable saying that I DO a lot of systems and network
administration,
- I would feel on very shakey
Joel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:11 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
[...] if you think that people are free to
give themselves the label they want, so you must accept that other are also
free to give the labels they want.
Long time ago, I studied the dark side of computer
Morten Bo Johansen m...@spamcop.net writes:
Sure. But the gist of the discussion to me was the point of view of the
naive user, i.e. how the two package managers behave out of the box.
Out of the box? Sorry, I'm frightened when I'm talking with oracle. I
see you can read so well between the
Morten Bo Johansen m...@spamcop.net writes:
On 2013-10-13 Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
I think that aptitude works quite well for the easiest cases. And it is
the only instrument I know which allow to see dependency chains. It was
dselect some time ago which could do it too as I know, but now
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 01:10:14PM -0300, msl09 wrote:
Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it
suggested me to remove most of my system, including apt, I thought it
was going to upgrade it so I confirmed it. I had to reinstall apt from
the debian packages website
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 02:56:13AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 19:40 -0400, Tom H wrote:
I suspect that the problem's in the examples above are simply PEBKAC.
Likely, since the libre to break a system temporarily sometimes is
needed to fix issues, or to make
On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 06:04 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 02:56:13AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 19:40 -0400, Tom H wrote:
I suspect that the problem's in the examples above are simply PEBKAC.
Likely, since the libre to break a system
On 13/10/13 01:02 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 01:10:14PM -0300, msl09 wrote:
Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it
suggested me to remove most of my system, including apt, I thought it
was going to upgrade it so I confirmed it. I had to reinstall
On Sun, 2013-10-13 at 13:44 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
Does Synaptic not use the same repo source files aptitude uses?
IIRC it does, but it perhaps doesn't use the same configurations, e.g.
to hold packages. I don't remember and might confuse it with another
tool. Mixing tools could be tricky
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:11:01AM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
If you own a system you control it and can do whatever you like
with it.
You can give yourself whatever label you want (sysadmin,
superuser, top
dog etc) - it matters not. How about Debian Despot?
Oh, of course,
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 09:19:18PM +0100, Joe wrote:
though most include routers and other
useless stuff.
..when it is normally customary to refer to them as routers. Pedants
might call them modem-routers, but nobody else does.
Um, you can get routers without a modem, so the difference
Hi,
There used to be a very similar discussion on the Debian Devel mailing
list...
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:46:41AM +0400, Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:
Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it
suggested me to remove most of my system
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Joel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:11 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
[...] if you think that people are free to
give themselves the label they want, so you must accept that other are
also
On 10/11/2013 08:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Wikipedia is hardly what I would call reliable. This definition
is one person's opinion, nothing more.
absolutely
I happen to disagree. Even single user systems need sysadmins. And
the sysadmin is the person ultimately responsible for the
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
don't you think most home use single-user systems have 2 people ??
Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people who
live in relationships, but with separated households. Even food industry
makes huge profit by
Le 12.10.2013 13:50, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
don't you think most home use single-user systems have 2 people ??
Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people
who
live in relationships, but with separated
On 10/12/2013 7:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
don't you think most home use single-user systems have 2 people ??
Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people who
live in relationships, but with separated households.
Le 12.10.2013 15:16, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/12/2013 7:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
don't you think most home use single-user systems have 2 people
??
Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people
who
live
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:28:10 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
1: of course, a DHCP can helps, and I have seen those made by an
association starting to buy and configure dedicated hardware. But
even then, the last time I went there they had not setup a DHCP.
Windows is able to
On 10/12/2013 9:20 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 12.10.2013 15:16, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/12/2013 7:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
don't you think most home use single-user systems have 2 people ??
Germany has
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 14:28 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
[snip]
Time to switch to the OT list or to reply off-list ;).
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Joe writes:
I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet
connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem.
1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet connection.
2) A DSL or cable modem is still a modem (MOdulator/DEModulator), though
most
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 09:37 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/12/2013 9:20 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
I think that the point in his message was to show that it is not because
the usage in your, or mine, or his, country is something that this use
is the usage of the majority.
Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it
suggested me to remove most of my system, including apt, I thought it
was going to upgrade it so I confirmed it. I had to reinstall apt from
the debian packages website.
In this new installation I gave it another try but when
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:15 AM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
Joe writes:
I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet
connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem.
1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet connection.
2) A
Rhiamom writes:
I thought that cablemodems were technically bridges, not modems at
all, with or without the router capability most now have.
The data is transmitted modulated onto a carrier (the modulation method
is quite complex) not as baseband. Thus the device is a modem.
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On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:15:16 -0500
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
Joe writes:
I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet
connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem.
1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet
connection.
Joe wrote:
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:15:16 -0500
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
Joe writes:
I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet
connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem.
1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet
On 12.Okt.2013, at 01:22, Terho Uotila wrote:
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 00:11:01 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Oh, of course, if you speak about giving yourself a label, then,
fine. Take the one you want. But, it does not mean that you can claim
to be a professional, or that you
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, msl09 contams...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Dmitrii Kashin free...@freehck.ru wrote:
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:
Have you filed a bug report about aptitude breaking apt (whatever
that means!) or is this just FUD?
No, I have
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 19:40 -0400, Tom H wrote:
I suspect that the problem's in the examples above are simply PEBKAC.
Likely, since the libre to break a system temporarily sometimes is
needed to fix issues, or to make transitions.
We are humans, so something like Once it suggested me to remove
On 10/12/2013 11:10 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 09:37
-0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/12/2013 9:20 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
I think that the point in his message was to show that it is not
because
the usage in your, or mine, or his, country is something
Tom H wrote at 2013-10-12 18:40 -0500:
I suspect that the problem's in the examples above are simply PEBKAC.
I use aptitude, and find it to be *more* useful than apt because of
its *interactive* dependency resolver. Probably if people have
trouble with aptitude it is because the package
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 02:43:34PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Guys, I must disagree with that. It would mean that any linux distro
is hard to maintain, and that's wrong. Plus, sysadmin have a lot
more knowledge than simple users and power users.
Yes, I think it sells real
that it can't really be done.
But, yeah, if you are using apt-get or aptitude (or even synaptic) to
maintain the software on your debian box, you are already performing
the work of a jr. level sysadmin. You are your own sysadmin.
But if it stresses you out to worry about that, then I take it all back. ;-P
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net
wrote:
We're a long way from being able to build internet terminals that
people can use as simply as they use a phone, and it's quite possible
that it can't really be done.
I'm not sending
Le 11.10.2013 13:03, Joel Rees a écrit :
On the converse, I think it is a crime to promise (as makers of
certain popular OSses do) that you can properly use a computer or
other computer-based communication device without administering or
managing the computer system.
It is not. I can use rapid
on.
Getting a printer to work in Linux or a weekly rsync to a USB HDD
do not make you a sysadmin any more than managing your current
(checking in en_US afaik) makes you an accountant.
But, yeah, if you are using apt-get or aptitude (or even synaptic) to
maintain the software on your debian box, you
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Dmitrii Kashin free...@freehck.ru wrote:
Florian Lindner mailingli...@xgm.de writes:
What is the prefered tool for installing on the CLI? apt-get or
aptitude? Last time I read about it, it was aptitude, due to better
or
aptitude? Last time I read about it, it was aptitude, due to better
dependency checking. What is the current state? apt-get or aptitude?
Does it matter? What about using both?
I should notice that you cannot compare apt-get and aptitude. But you
can do it for aptitude and APT utilities.
I find
On Fri 11 Oct 2013 at 13:24:28 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
Getting a printer to work in Linux or a weekly rsync to a USB HDD
do not make you a sysadmin any more than managing your current
(checking in en_US afaik) makes you an accountant.
Eh?
A parent who spends many hours attending to
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:06:24PM +0100, Brian wrote:
are you root? is the clue. If you are able to be root , you are a
sysadmin.
We fundamentally disagree on that point.
Of course, we all know a sysadmin role can only be filled by a very
special person.
If you say so. I've never
Le 11.10.2013 23:06, Brian a écrit :
are you root?
It does only means you own the system. Not that you can claim to be a
sysadmin. I own my car. I am not a mechanic, but I anyway have the
*authorizations* to tinker it. It's what root, or to be more precise,
uid=0 means in linux OSes.
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On Fri 11 Oct 2013 at 22:15:59 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:06:24PM +0100, Brian wrote:
are you root? is the clue. If you are able to be root , you are a
sysadmin.
We fundamentally disagree on that point.
Without the ability to become root you are unable to
On Fri 11 Oct 2013 at 23:21:07 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 11.10.2013 23:06, Brian a écrit :
are you root?
It does only means you own the system. Not that you can claim to be
a sysadmin. I own my car. I am not a mechanic, but I anyway have the
*authorizations* to tinker
On 10/11/2013 05:21 PM,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
It does only means you own the system. Not that you can claim to
be a sysadmin. I own my car. I am not a mechanic, but I anyway
have the *authorizations* to tinker it. It's what root,
or
Le 11.10.2013 23:44, Brian a écrit :
On Fri 11 Oct 2013 at 23:21:07 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 11.10.2013 23:06, Brian a écrit :
are you root?
It does only means you own the system. Not that you can claim to be
a sysadmin. I own my car. I am not a mechanic, but I anyway
Le 12.10.2013 00:01, Paul Cartwright a écrit :
On 10/11/2013 05:21 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org [1] wrote:
It does only means you own the system. Not that you can claim to be
a sysadmin. I own my car. I am not a mechanic, but I anyway have
the
*AUTHORIZATIONS* to tinker it. It's what
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 00:11:01 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Oh, of course, if you speak about giving yourself a label, then,
fine. Take the one you want. But, it does not mean that you can claim
to be a professional, or that you can say someone is a professional.
It seemed to me
On 10/11/2013 6:22 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 12.10.2013 00:01, Paul Cartwright a écrit :
On 10/11/2013 05:21 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org [1] wrote:
It does only means you own the system. Not that you can claim to be
a sysadmin. I own my car. I am not a mechanic, but
Le 12.10.2013 02:24, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/11/2013 6:22 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 12.10.2013 00:01, Paul Cartwright a écrit :
On 10/11/2013 05:21 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org [1] wrote:
It does only means you own the system. Not that you can claim to
be
a
Wikipedia is hardly what I would call reliable.
Many people claim that many Wikis are bad. I disagree, it's a lexicon
that is much better than most, if not all reputable printed lexica. If
you find a bad Wiki, please correct it, make it better.
A few Wikis are not only much better than
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 02:22 +0300, Terho Uotila wrote:
rootly powers doesn't make sysadmin
rootly powers makes sysadmin
What is meant by sysadmin depends to the context.
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/11/2013 6:22 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 12.10.2013 00:01, Paul Cartwright a écrit :
On 10/11/2013 05:21 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org [1] wrote:
It does only means you own the system. Not that you can claim to be
a sysadmin. I own my car. I
On 10/11/2013 9:15 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Wikipedia is hardly what I would call reliable.
Many people claim that many Wikis are bad. I disagree, it's a lexicon
that is much better than most, if not all reputable printed lexica. If
you find a bad Wiki, please correct it, make it better.
I
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 00:22:47 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 12.10.2013 00:01, Paul Cartwright a écrit :
On 10/11/2013 05:21 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org [1] wrote:
It does only means you own the system. Not that you can claim to be
a sysadmin. I own my car. I am
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:
Have you filed a bug report about aptitude breaking apt (whatever
that means!) or is this just FUD?
No, I have not. Because it is normal aptitude's behaviour.
It was a cognitive case...
You start out by replying that this isn't a bug but normal
On 13Oct09:2153+0100, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:24:57 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Being retired, I've no aspirations of being a sysadmin.
If you run Linux, you already are. You don't get to choose.
Probably. There have been reports of parents set
Joe wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:24:57 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Being retired, I've no aspirations of being a sysadmin.
If you run Linux, you already are. You don't get to choose.
I disagree. I may perform sysadmin tasks, that does not make me one.
For
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:47:08PM CEST, David L. Craig dlc@gmail.com
said:
On 13Oct09:2153+0100, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:24:57 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Being retired, I've no aspirations of being a sysadmin.
If you run Linux,
Le 10.10.2013 14:30, Erwan David a écrit :
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:47:08PM CEST, David L. Craig
dlc@gmail.com said:
On 13Oct09:2153+0100, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:24:57 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Being retired, I've no aspirations of being a
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Dmitrii Kashin free...@freehck.ru wrote:
Florian Lindner mailingli...@xgm.de writes:
What is the prefered tool for installing on the CLI? apt-get or
aptitude? Last time I read about it, it was aptitude, due to better
dependency checking. What is the current
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 08.10.2013 16:15, Richard Owlett a écrit :
[snip]
I'm experimenting with a very lean idiosyncratic install. It
sounds
as aptitude will be appropriate for me. Off to read man pages
etc ;)
Don't copy me! xD
More seriously, without aptitude, I would
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