On Tue 30 Mar 2021 at 19:29:49 +0100, Brian wrote:
> Personally, I see the idea of an ad-hoc network as interesting, but
> haven't the incentive to set one up. Not yet anyway!
I successfully and eadily implemented the ifupdown method at
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc
Put it top of a
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 15:25:55 -0500
David Wright wrote:
>
> But going back to the OP's original scenario, a broken¹ router would
> be an ideal solution for linking two wifi laptops, with no possibility
> of accidentally joining the Internet (horrors!).
>
> ¹ Is this a common mode of failure?
On Wed 31 Mar 2021 at 10:45:59 (-0400), Marc Auslander wrote:
> Anssi Saari writes:
> >Brian writes:
> >
> >> Now - could I use this non-internet-capable router as a switch?
> >
> >Probably. Usually LAN ports on a router are setup as a switch. The
Anssi Saari writes:
>Brian writes:
>
...
>>
>> Now - could I use this non-internet-capable router as a switch?
>
>Probably. Usually LAN ports on a router are setup as a switch. The
>router may have a DHCP server running though which you may want to
>disable.
In my experiance, you should put the
Brian writes:
> Ten minutes after writing that I recollected I possess a non-working
> router. It is the first I bought (> 100 GBP) and has not yet beem
> re-cycled.
>
> My network also hasn't any spare LAN ports to connect to and some of
> the devices have beem wireless-enabled to communicate
On Tue 30 Mar 2021 at 16:51:05 (+0100), mick crane wrote:
> On 2021-03-24 15:34, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > This is essentially a reading list request.
> > I have never administered a LAN and believe in "learning by doing".
> > I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation
>
On Tue 30 Mar 2021 at 19:29:49 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 30 Mar 2021 at 11:19:48 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > What well meaning members of this list have not picked up on is that I am
> > very literal minded and careful in phrasing my questions. I've said
> > somewhere in
On Tue 30 Mar 2021 at 11:19:48 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
[...]
> What well meaning members of this list have not picked up on is that I am
> very literal minded and careful in phrasing my questions. I've said
> somewhere in this thread that my "universe of discourse" is explicitly
> limited
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:28:07AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 03/30/2021 10:28 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > Richard,
> >
> > So: You have two laptops. Both installed from the first DVD. Never connected
> > to the Internet.
> >
> > Did you actually manage to install the firmware to
On 2021-03-30 17:28, IL Ka wrote:
You might need a x-over RJ45 cable to connect the 2 together.
There is a technology called "Auto MDI-X". With it NIC can detect cable
type hence it can support both cross-cord and patch-cord.
This technology is optional for 10Mb and 100Mb (although widely
>
>
> You might need a x-over RJ45 cable to connect the 2 together.
>
There is a technology called "Auto MDI-X". With it NIC can detect cable
type hence it can support both cross-cord and patch-cord.
This technology is optional for 10Mb and 100Mb (although widely implemented
in 100).
For 1000Mb
On 03/30/2021 10:28 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
Richard,
So: You have two laptops. Both installed from the first DVD. Never connected
to the Internet.
Did you actually manage to install the firmware to make the WiFi cards work?
Yes ;>
One was old enough that the installer had the correct
On 03/30/2021 09:11 AM, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 25 Mar 2021 at 17:02:36 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
You still have he magic Mifi hotspot from T-Mobile that you were connecting
to via USB. That may well have DHCP and DNS functionality built in - assuming
you have wifi drivers installed
On 2021-03-24 15:34, Richard Owlett wrote:
This is essentially a reading list request.
I have never administered a LAN and believe in "learning by doing".
I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation
server software was installed on *ONE* of them. Communication will be
Richard,
So: You have two laptops. Both installed from the first DVD. Never connected
to the Internet.
Did you actually manage to install the firmware to make the WiFi cards work?
Outwith that firmware, it is very unlikely that anything will work.
[And this goes back to one of the previous
On Thu 25 Mar 2021 at 17:02:36 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> You still have he magic Mifi hotspot from T-Mobile that you were connecting
> to via USB. That may well have DHCP and DNS functionality built in - assuming
> you have wifi drivers installed on your two machines, it may well
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 06:51:32PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 25 mar 21, 05:15:46, songbird wrote:
> >
> > for my own needs i just use a crossover cable and skip
> > WiFi entirely - probably because in more ancient times
> > i've done connections between machines via null modem
>
On Jo, 25 mar 21, 05:15:46, songbird wrote:
>
> for my own needs i just use a crossover cable and skip
> WiFi entirely - probably because in more ancient times
> i've done connections between machines via null modem
> serial port cables.
With newer hardware (Gigabit as well as some 100Mbit
On Thu 25 Mar 2021 at 07:41:11 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 03/25/2021 04:15 AM, songbird wrote:
> > Richard Owlett wrote:
> >Part 2 (Asides to be ignored: :) )
> >
> >for my own needs i just use a crossover cable and skip
> > WiFi entirely - probably because in more ancient times
On 03/25/2021 07:35 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Richard Owlett composed on 2021-03-25 05:56 (UTC-0500):
In my original post I asked:
What internet search terms will lead to productive results?
A private reply suggested:
https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=home%20lan%20setup%20wireless
On 03/25/2021 07:09 AM, IL Ka wrote:
> I have no router and the installer never prompted for an IP address.
Two wireless stations could be connected using Ad-Hoc mode (so called
iBSS) or using Access Point (BSS mode).
If you do not have access point, you can try to configure Ad-Hoc:
On 03/25/2021 04:15 AM, songbird wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
This is essentially a reading list request.
I have never administered a LAN and believe in "learning by doing".
I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation
server software was installed on *ONE* of them.
Richard Owlett composed on 2021-03-25 05:56 (UTC-0500):
> In my original post I asked:
>> What internet search terms will lead to productive results?
> A private reply suggested:
> https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=home%20lan%20setup%20wireless
> Though the resulting links are primarily
> I have no router and the installer never prompted for an IP address.
Two wireless stations could be connected using Ad-Hoc mode (so called iBSS)
or using Access Point (BSS mode).
If you do not have access point, you can try to configure Ad-Hoc:
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc
WiFi is a
On 03/25/2021 06:37 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 05:56:02AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 03/24/2021 07:43 PM, IL Ka wrote:
learning by doing
Theory and practice are both important. It is crucial to
understand how IP networks work, so I'd start with book
like
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 05:56:02AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 03/24/2021 07:43 PM, IL Ka wrote:
> >> learning by doing
> >
> >Theory and practice are both important. It is crucial to
> >understand how IP networks work, so I'd start with book
> >like "TCP/IP Network Administration"
>
>
On 03/24/2021 07:43 PM, IL Ka wrote:
learning by doing
Theory and practice are both important. It is crucial to understand how
IP networks work, so I'd start with book like "TCP/IP Network
Administration"
That book is not available at the local library but some chapters are on
the
Richard Owlett wrote:
> This is essentially a reading list request.
> I have never administered a LAN and believe in "learning by doing".
> I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation
> server software was installed on *ONE* of them. Communication will be
> via WiFi.
>
> learning by doing
Theory and practice are both important. It is crucial to understand how IP
networks work, so I'd start with book like "TCP/IP Network Administration"
> During installation
> server software was installed on *ONE* of them. Communication will be
> via WiFi.
Did they get IP
On Wed 24 Mar 2021 at 17:49:11 (-0400), Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:
> El mié, 24 mar 2021 a las 16:42, Brian () escribió:
> > On Wed 24 Mar 2021 at 20:20:59 +, Joe wrote:
> > > On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 15:08:43 -0500 David Wright wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A new N600 dual band router can be had for $30
El mié, 24 mar 2021 a las 16:42, Brian () escribió:
>
> On Wed 24 Mar 2021 at 20:20:59 +, Joe wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 15:08:43 -0500
> > David Wright wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > A new N600 dual band router can be had for $30 at Walmart.
> > > I don't know how easy it is to initially
On Wed 24 Mar 2021 at 20:20:59 +, Joe wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 15:08:43 -0500
> David Wright wrote:
>
>
> >
> > A new N600 dual band router can be had for $30 at Walmart.
> > I don't know how easy it is to initially configure it without
> > an ethernet connection to one of the LAN
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 15:08:43 -0500
David Wright wrote:
>
> A new N600 dual band router can be had for $30 at Walmart.
> I don't know how easy it is to initially configure it without
> an ethernet connection to one of the LAN ports, but that problem
> can be considered solved by the quotation
On Wed 24 Mar 2021 at 20:06:37 (+0100), basti wrote:
> Am 24.03.21 um 19:38 schrieb Brian:
> > On Wed 24 Mar 2021 at 12:05:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >> On 03/24/2021 11:37 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:34:53AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> This is
Am 24.03.21 um 19:38 schrieb Brian:
> On Wed 24 Mar 2021 at 12:05:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
>> On 03/24/2021 11:37 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:34:53AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
This is essentially a reading list request.
I have never
On Wed 24 Mar 2021 at 12:05:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 03/24/2021 11:37 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:34:53AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > This is essentially a reading list request.
> > > I have never administered a LAN and believe in "learning by
On 03/24/2021 12:22 PM, Reco wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:15:34PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 03/24/2021 10:40 AM, Reco wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:34:53AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation
server software was
On 03/24/2021 10:57 AM, Charles Curley wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 10:34:53 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
I have never administered a LAN and believe in "learning by doing".
You will. :-)
I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation
server software was installed on
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:15:34PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 03/24/2021 10:40 AM, Reco wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:34:53AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation
> > > server software was installed on *ONE* of
On 03/24/2021 10:40 AM, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:34:53AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation
server software was installed on *ONE* of them. Communication will be
via WiFi. Any specific suggestions for
On 03/24/2021 11:37 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:34:53AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
This is essentially a reading list request.
I have never administered a LAN and believe in "learning by doing".
I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:34:53AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> This is essentially a reading list request.
> I have never administered a LAN and believe in "learning by doing".
> I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation server
> software was installed on *ONE* of
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 10:34:53 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have never administered a LAN and believe in "learning by doing".
You will. :-)
> I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation
> server software was installed on *ONE* of them. Communication will be
> via
Hi.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:34:53AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation
> server software was installed on *ONE* of them. Communication will be
> via WiFi. Any specific suggestions for reading?
hostapd, dhcpd, bind
This is essentially a reading list request.
I have never administered a LAN and believe in "learning by doing".
I have two laptops with clean installs of Buster. During installation
server software was installed on *ONE* of them. Communication will be
via WiFi. The MATE panel's network
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