Re: ThinkPad Extra Buttons as /devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/input/input16

2024-01-22 Thread David Wright
ou mean by horrible state. > > That the laptop has a worndown (usage damaged) keyboard. [1] > > > > So I'm ask if > > > export KEYCODE=42 > > > echo $KEYCODE > /devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/input/input16 > > > could cause "wlan radio enable&quo

Re: ThinkPad Extra Buttons as /devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/input/input16

2024-01-21 Thread Geert Stappers
So I'm ask if > > export KEYCODE=42 > > echo $KEYCODE > /devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/input/input16 > > could cause "wlan radio enable"? Or should KEYCODE be another magic number? > > FWIW my wifi hardware button's keycode is 246. How was that keycode found?

Re: ThinkPad Extra Buttons as /devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/input/input16

2024-01-21 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 22:41:01 +0100 Geert Stappers wrote: > Hoping that is it possible: > > How to inject key stroke or "button pressed" in > /devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/input/input16 ? Thinkwiki might be useful. https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki -- Does a

Re: ThinkPad Extra Buttons as /devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/input/input16

2024-01-21 Thread David Wright
gt; case of the laptop is "headless server, server with SSH access". I'm not sure what you mean by horrible state. > So I'm ask if > export KEYCODE=42 > echo $KEYCODE > /devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/input/input16 > could cause "wlan radio enable"? Or shoul

ThinkPad Extra Buttons as /devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/input/input16

2024-01-21 Thread Geert Stappers
Hi, Hoping that is it possible: How to inject key stroke or "button pressed" in /devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/input/input16 ? Website https://xyproblem.info says I should tell what the original problem is. It is `rfkill list` reporting "hard blocked", not bein

Re: dmraid not creation devices for partitions

2023-11-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 10:11:16AM +, Drone Ah wrote: > I found > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/709184/fakeraid-partition-missing-not-mapped-as-a-device-on-boot-after-upgrade-to-ubu/760998#760998 > > Using kpartx as suggested in the above post does solve the problem.

dmraid not creation devices for partitions

2023-11-15 Thread Drone Ah
, does not create the partition devices. I found https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/709184/fakeraid-partition-missing-not-mapped-as-a-device-on-boot-after-upgrade-to-ubu/760998#760998 Using kpartx as suggested in the above post does solve the problem. Getting it to run at startup, if required

Re: muis /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/ "speed" ontbreekt

2023-08-31 Thread Gijs Hillenius
On 31 August 2023 10:19 Paul van der Vlis, wrote: > Op 31-08-2023 om 09:53 schreef Gijs Hillenius: >> [...] >> >>> >>> Standaard staat hij tegenwoordig wel erg langzaam inderdaad. >> xinput --set-prop "TPPS/2 Elan TrackPoint" "libinput Accel Speed" 1 >> Als het een Elan Trackpoint is dan is -

Re: muis /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/ "speed" ontbreekt

2023-08-31 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 31-08-2023 om 09:53 schreef Gijs Hillenius: [...] Standaard staat hij tegenwoordig wel erg langzaam inderdaad. xinput --set-prop "TPPS/2 Elan TrackPoint" "libinput Accel Speed" 1 Als het een Elan Trackpoint is dan is - volgens mij - op dit moment het enige wat ik kan instellen. In

Re: muis /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/ "speed" ontbreekt

2023-08-31 Thread Gijs Hillenius
[...] > > Standaard staat hij tegenwoordig wel erg langzaam inderdaad. xinput --set-prop "TPPS/2 Elan TrackPoint" "libinput Accel Speed" 1 Als het een Elan Trackpoint is dan is - volgens mij - op dit moment het enige wat ik kan instellen. In Gnome toont ie dan in de settings: "fast". Het

Re: muis /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/ "speed" ontbreekt

2023-08-30 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 30-08-2023 om 21:05 schreef Paul van der Vlis: Op 30-08-2023 om 11:01 schreef Gijs Hillenius: Goedenmorgen! Ik probeer mijn Thinkpad trackpoint te versnellen. Dat ging vroeger met iets als: echo 255 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/speed en ook echo 200 > /sys/devices/platform

Re: muis /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/ "speed" ontbreekt

2023-08-30 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 30-08-2023 om 11:01 schreef Gijs Hillenius: Goedenmorgen! Ik probeer mijn Thinkpad trackpoint te versnellen. Dat ging vroeger met iets als: echo 255 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/speed en ook echo 200 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/sensitivity maar "speed" be

muis /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/ "speed" ontbreekt

2023-08-30 Thread Gijs Hillenius
Goedenmorgen! Ik probeer mijn Thinkpad trackpoint te versnellen. Dat ging vroeger met iets als: echo 255 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/speed en ook echo 200 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/sensitivity maar "speed" bestaat niet (meer). sensitivy verhogen, dat he

Re: Boot issue on system with four SATA devices

2023-08-27 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 08:19:35PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Dear list, > > there is a little issue, which I try to solve. On my desptop computer I have > 4 > harddrives: > > SATA 0: HDD 300 GB with Debian + GRUB on MBR (parted in /boot, /, /home > (luks), /var (luks) and /usr (luks) > SATA 1:

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-30 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 12:59 PM Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 1/28/23 12:04, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > All, > > > > I just upgraded to the 1/28/23 updates to KF5 102 and now I have no > > audio devices found. My USB headset is plugged in but KDE does not see &

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-30 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 1/28/23 12:04, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: All, I just upgraded to the 1/28/23 updates to KF5 102 and now I have no audio devices found. My USB headset is plugged in but KDE does not see it. lsusb lists my USB headphones: Bus 001 Device 009: ID 046d:0a37 Logitech, Inc. USB Headset H540

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-30 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 12:59 PM Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 12:11:33 -0500 > Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > Hello Timothy, > > >I did not try a new user. I did try deleting "~/.config/pulseaudio" > > Sorry to say, I've reached the limit of my knowledge on the subject. > :-( > >

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 12:11:33 -0500 Timothy M Butterworth wrote: Hello Timothy, >I did not try a new user. I did try deleting "~/.config/pulseaudio" Sorry to say, I've reached the limit of my knowledge on the subject. :-( -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-29 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
ume levels >> because sometimes things get 'fiddled with' on update. >> > > It is not a volume or a mute problem. KDE does not register any sound > cards being installed. The hardware has drivers and it is installed. I can > see the hardware with aplay. > > aplay -l >

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-29 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
he hardware has drivers and it is installed. I can see the hardware with aplay. aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 7: HDMI 1 [SAMSUN

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 07:22:02 -0500 Timothy M Butterworth wrote: Hello Timothy, >I upgraded to 5.27beta so far no new issues. I just installed Wayland Good to know. Thanks for the info. >so I can try it out. My sound cards are still not working though. Have you tried; (a) checking volume

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-29 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 5:19 AM Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 10:41:38 -0500 > Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > Hello Timothy, > > >I am looking forward to 5.27beta! It has a lot of good improvements. > > As I suggested, the migration to testing has started today. I'm holding > off

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 10:41:38 -0500 Timothy M Butterworth wrote: Hello Timothy, >I am looking forward to 5.27beta! It has a lot of good improvements. As I suggested, the migration to testing has started today. I'm holding off for a few days to be sure (well, as sure as I can be) that

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-28 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 7:50 AM Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 05:04:59 -0500 > Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > Hello Timothy, > > >This appears to be a KDE issue. Is anyone else having this problem? > >Please note the problem started after installing KF5-102 and a reboot. > > KDE

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 05:04:59 -0500 Timothy M Butterworth wrote: Hello Timothy, >This appears to be a KDE issue. Is anyone else having this problem? >Please note the problem started after installing KF5-102 and a reboot. KDE Plasma is undergoing big changes ATM. Soon(1) Plasma 5.27beta (2)

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 07:37:01 -0500 Timothy M Butterworth wrote: Hello Timothy, >I forgot to mention that I am using Bookworm. It *was* in the subject header. :-) -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately

Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-28 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 5:04 AM Timothy M Butterworth < timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > All, > > I just upgraded to the 1/28/23 updates to KF5 102 and now I have no audio > devices found. My USB headset is plugged in but KDE does not see it. > I forgot to me

Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-28 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
All, I just upgraded to the 1/28/23 updates to KF5 102 and now I have no audio devices found. My USB headset is plugged in but KDE does not see it. lsusb lists my USB headphones: Bus 001 Device 009: ID 046d:0a37 Logitech, Inc. USB Headset H540 lspci lists my audio devices 04:00.5 Multimedia

block devices vs. partitions (Re: else or Debian (Re: ZFS performance (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)))

2022-11-10 Thread hw
itions be better than the block device itself?  They're like > > an > > additional layer and what could be faster and easier than directly using the > > block devices? > > > > > hurts my eyes to see such desinformation circulating. What's wrong about it?

Re: systemd: udev coldplug all devices question

2022-09-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 01:30:11AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: bug report to try to fix it, except for the suggestion that a Debian kernel developer made to increase the uevent buffer size in the kernel over a year ago and another suggestion from another Debian maintainer or developer who

systemd: udev coldplug all devices question

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
Hello, There are some devices that when present will cause the "coldplug all devices" stage at boot to fail. On a normally installed system only an error is reported in the journal and logs during boot but the system boots normally and the device also functions normally. But on debian

Re: Sharing photos from Linux to Apple devices

2022-03-09 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 06:48:07PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: [...] > > Can anyone suggest a good way to get my Linux (or Windows) pictures onto > some site that Apple devices can use? > I would suggest something like nextcloud. https://nextcloud.com/ It's like running your own iclo

Re: Sharing photos from Linux to Apple devices

2022-03-09 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 9 mars 2022 à 03:20:06 UTC+1, Tom Browder a écrit : > On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 18:58 Jeremy Ardley wrote: > ... > Put the photos into several large zip files (simply to minimise the > number of downloads). Then upload to google drive in some directory and > use the share option on the

Re: Sharing photos from Linux to Apple devices

2022-03-08 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Tue Mar 8 20:20:41 2022 Tom Browder wrote: > Most of my relatives now have Apple devices, and we can share photos > and videos among ourselves. > > I, on my Linux computer, have about 32 Gb of slides I digitized some > years ago (they are also duplicated on my Windows co

Re: Sharing photos from Linux to Apple devices

2022-03-08 Thread Tom Browder
On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 18:58 Jeremy Ardley wrote: ... Put the photos into several large zip files (simply to minimise the > number of downloads). Then upload to google drive in some directory and > use the share option on the directory to give an https URL you can send > your relatives. >

Re: Sharing photos from Linux to Apple devices

2022-03-08 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 9/3/22 8:48 am, Tom Browder wrote: Can anyone suggest a good way to get my Linux (or Windows) pictures onto some site that Apple devices can use? Thanks, -Tom Put the photos into several large zip files (simply to minimise the number of downloads). Then upload to google drive

Sharing photos from Linux to Apple devices

2022-03-08 Thread Tom Browder
Most of my relatives now have Apple devices, and we can share photos and videos among ourselves. I, on my Linux computer, have about 32 Gb of slides I digitized some years ago (they are also duplicated on my Windows computer). I have a Google account that currently has 100 Gb of storage. I also

Re: Make Debian automount mount devices in read only

2022-03-03 Thread Carles Pina i Estany
Hi, I'm providing more information and answering my own question (for my laptop's installation). On Mar/03/2022, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 03 Mar 2022 at 10:00:09 (+0100), Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > > > My desktop computer (Debian 11.2) auto-mounts USB devices (hard

Re: Make Debian automount mount devices in read only

2022-03-03 Thread David Wright
On Thu 03 Mar 2022 at 10:00:09 (+0100), Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > My desktop computer (Debian 11.2) auto-mounts USB devices (hard disks, > etc.) That doesn't help a great deal because there are several automounters available in Debian. > I would like the devices to be mounted

Re: Make Debian automount mount devices in read only

2022-03-03 Thread Carles Pina i Estany
Hi, On Mar/03/2022, Brian wrote: > On Thu 03 Mar 2022 at 10:00:09 +0100, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > My desktop computer (Debian 11.2) auto-mounts USB devices (hard disks, > > etc.) > > > > I would like the devic

Re: Make Debian automount mount devices in read only

2022-03-03 Thread Brian
On Thu 03 Mar 2022 at 10:00:09 +0100, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > Hi, > > My desktop computer (Debian 11.2) auto-mounts USB devices (hard disks, > etc.) > > I would like the devices to be mounted in read only mode by default. I > will remo

Make Debian automount mount devices in read only

2022-03-03 Thread Carles Pina i Estany
Hi, My desktop computer (Debian 11.2) auto-mounts USB devices (hard disks, etc.) I would like the devices to be mounted in read only mode by default. I will remount them in rw if I need to. They are not in my /etc/fstab I've been looking at udev configuration files, rules, etc. but I'm

Re: 73-usb-net-by-mac.rules is no longer used in Bullseye for USB ethernet devices?

2022-02-23 Thread Flacusbigotis
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 3:15 AM Tixy wrote: > > Sorry, I know nothing about all this, I just got curious about your > problem and looked at the source code. > > Wow. That's quite impressive Tixy. I would not even know where to begin looking! Thank you for all that leg work. I will be looking

Re: 73-usb-net-by-mac.rules is no longer used in Bullseye for USB ethernet devices?

2022-02-23 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2022-02-22 at 22:32 -0600, Flacusbigotis wrote: [...] > > Feb 22 17:26:11 server1 kernel: [ 205.693604] ax88179_178a 5-1:1.0 > enx001122334455: Failed to read reg index 0x: -22 > > And as you can see in those logs there is an issue with xhci_hcd on > this > card and later the USB

Re: 73-usb-net-by-mac.rules is no longer used in Bullseye for USB ethernet devices?

2022-02-22 Thread Flacusbigotis
> I did not have this problem in Debian 10. I do not know if the card's driver has changed between the two versions of Debian, so I am going to boot into a Debian 10 live image and see if it displays the same behavior. Good news: I verified that this whole thing is indeed introduced in Debian

Re: 73-usb-net-by-mac.rules is no longer used in Bullseye for USB ethernet devices?

2022-02-22 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 10:56:43AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > It's possible, of course. What's also possible is card's EEPROM may have > > gone haywire. I had a similar problem back in the day with rtl8139 NIC, > > IIRC. One day the thing simply started to assign itself a

Re: 73-usb-net-by-mac.rules is no longer used in Bullseye for USB ethernet devices?

2022-02-22 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
iate directory, and the file name has > > > to start with double zeroes. > > > > > > 2) Invoke (really needed): > > > > > > update-initramfs -k all -u > > > > > > 3) Reboot. > > > > > > 4) Watch your network i

Re: 73-usb-net-by-mac.rules is no longer used in Bullseye for USB ethernet devices?

2022-02-22 Thread Reco
; [Link] > > MACAddressPolicy=none > > NamePolicy=kernel > > > > You may have to create an appropriate directory, and the file name has > > to start with double zeroes. > > > > 2) Invoke (really needed): > > > > update-initramfs -k all -u >

Re: 73-usb-net-by-mac.rules is no longer used in Bullseye for USB ethernet devices?

2022-02-21 Thread Flacusbigotis
start with double zeroes. > > 2) Invoke (really needed): > > update-initramfs -k all -u > > 3) Reboot. > > 4) Watch your network interface is called usb0 from now then. > > > Thanks! > Now, this approach has its caveats, so: > > 1) If you ever plug-in two USB devices

Re: 73-usb-net-by-mac.rules is no longer used in Bullseye for USB ethernet devices?

2022-02-16 Thread Reco
: update-initramfs -k all -u 3) Reboot. 4) Watch your network interface is called usb0 from now then. Now, this approach has its caveats, so: 1) If you ever plug-in two USB devices that both served with "ax88179_178a" - you won't be able to distinguish between them. They will

Re: 73-usb-net-by-mac.rules is no longer used in Bullseye for USB ethernet devices?

2022-02-16 Thread Flacusbigotis
Thanks Reco & Greg. I did see the /lib/systemd/network/73-usb-net-by-mac.link file. Thanks for that. I don't know exactly what is happening, but the MAC address of the device keeps changing after an ifdown/ifup cycle post boot. When the device boots up, it comes up with its own real MAC, but

Re: 73-usb-net-by-mac.rules is no longer used in Bullseye for USB ethernet devices?

2022-02-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 05:30:17PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 03:55:21AM -0600, Flacusbigotis wrote: > > Back in Debian Buster, I learned that the "predictive" naming of this USB > > ethernet interface would be governed by "73-usb-net-by-mac.rules" and so I > > had

Re: 73-usb-net-by-mac.rules is no longer used in Bullseye for USB ethernet devices?

2022-02-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 03:55:21AM -0600, Flacusbigotis wrote: > Back in Debian Buster, I learned that the "predictive" naming of this USB > ethernet interface would be governed by "73-usb-net-by-mac.rules" and so I > had it configured accordingly with a config file in >

73-usb-net-by-mac.rules is no longer used in Bullseye for USB ethernet devices?

2022-02-16 Thread Flacusbigotis
My internet connection is off the ethernet port of a PCI-E card that also has USB ports on it, so the ethernet device is recognized as a "USB ethernet device"... Back in Debian Buster, I learned that the "predictive" naming of this USB ethernet interface would be governed by

Re: Debian Live Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780 [Radeon HD 3200] screen resolution

2022-01-09 Thread Richmond
"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: > On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 06:52:32PM +, Richmond wrote: >> I am currently running Debian 10. >> >> sudo lspci|grep VGA >> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, >> Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780 [Radeon

Re: Debian Live Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780 [Radeon HD 3200] screen resolution

2022-01-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 06:52:32PM +, Richmond wrote: > I am currently running Debian 10. > > sudo lspci|grep VGA > 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, > Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780 [Radeon HD 3200] > > sudo xrandr > > Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200,

Debian Live Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780 [Radeon HD 3200] screen resolution

2022-01-08 Thread Richmond
I am currently running Debian 10. sudo lspci|grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780 [Radeon HD 3200] sudo xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1440 x 900, maximum 8192 x 8192 VGA-0 connected primary 1440x900+0+0 (normal left inverted

Re: Disable S3 Wakeup for USB devices

2021-12-14 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Maybe the BIOS / UEFI Firmware has options for this? The solution was found by "acpitool -w". Several of the devices were enabled at my host. By try I figured out which one is my keyboard (XHC1) and which one my mouse (PTXH). I disabled it those by:

Re: Disable S3 Wakeup for USB devices

2021-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 13 dec 21, 16:22:17, Klaus Singvogel wrote: > > Hello, > > my brand new computer (amd64, Bullseye) can be suspended to ACPI Mode S3 by > "acpitool -s" under Debian. > > But whenever the USB mouse is moved (even a jiggle is enough) or the USB > keyboard a key is hit, the computer wakes

Disable S3 Wakeup for USB devices

2021-12-13 Thread Klaus Singvogel
per device in the system settings: https://ibb.co/5YhPYBs https://ibb.co/XzGwmZr (I'm sorry to offer screenshots only in German) How can this wakeup behaviour by USB devices be disabled under Debian? Thanks in advance. Best regards, Klaus. -- Klaus Singvogel GnuPG-Key-ID: 1024R/5068792

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-30 Thread peter
g to the manual, play doesn't have outfile. Hence the monkeying with shell and environment variables. Better to use sox and specify outfile directly. I'll hypothesize that alsa devices aren't represented in /dev/. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture ALSA

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-29 Thread David Wright
try to be as explicit as > > possible, avoiding short-cuts, abbreviations, assumptions, etc.) > > Absolutely good policy. I try to follow it also but tend to fail. =8~) > > > sox /home/peter/a42.WAV -t alsa default > > Good. > > The machine here has sound ha

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-29 Thread peter
WAV -t alsa non-default Devices were reported here. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/07/msg01272.html Thx, ... P. -- 48.7693 N 123.3053 W mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-29 Thread peter
ult Good. The machine here has sound hardware on the system board. Also it can have a PCI sound card. Sound devices reported here. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/07/msg01272.html Assume speakers are plugged to output on the system board; headphones plugged to the PCI card. A Linphon

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-29 Thread David
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 16:57, wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 02:31:18PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > I haven't set a shell. According to https://wiki.debian.org/Shell > > it's bash. > It might be willing to tell you: > echo $SHELL I wouldn't give that advice, it's rather

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-29 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 02:31:18PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Greg Wooledge > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:32:02 -0400 > > Are you in csh/tcsh? > > I haven't set a shell. According to https://wiki.debian.org/Shell > it's bash. It might be willing to tell you: echo $SHELL

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-28 Thread David Wright
alsamixer is an ncurses mixer program for use with the ALSA soundcard >drivers. It supports multiple soundcards with multiple devices." > > A terminal with an ncurses display is necessary to listen to an audio message? No, you'd use alsamixer where you were taking an active r

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 02:31:18PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Greg Wooledge > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:32:02 -0400 > > Are you in csh/tcsh? > > I haven't set a shell. According to https://wiki.debian.org/Shell > it's bash. Do not guess. Do not assume defaults are in

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-28 Thread peter
command). If the sound card is replaced, will try this sort of thing. setenv AUDIODEV=plughw:CARD=ICH5,DEV=0 ; play a42.WAV with present /dev/ names I guess something similar to this is out of the question. sox a42.WAV /dev/snd/bl Device names are used for storage devices and for network adapter

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-28 Thread peter
It supports multiple soundcards with multiple devices." A terminal with an ncurses display is necessary to listen to an audio message? Now that the PCI sound card is gone, disambiguation appears to be unnecessary. This command works. play a42.WAV Something odd in the sox manual. -d,

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-28 Thread Tixy
I've reordered this reply to get rid of top posting... On Tue, 2021-09-28 at 17:38 +, Nils wrote: > Am 28. September 2021 19:32:02 MESZ schrieb Greg Wooledge < > g...@wooledge.org>: > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 08:19:26AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > > > CONCLUSIONS > > > > > > > >

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-28 Thread Nils
I agree. In the "normal" shells, you need to use "export" instead of "set"! Am 28. September 2021 19:32:02 MESZ schrieb Greg Wooledge : >On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 08:19:26AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: >> > CONCLUSIONS >> > >> > Audio messages can be interpreted. Eg., >> > set

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 08:19:26AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > CONCLUSIONS > > > > Audio messages can be interpreted. Eg., > > set AUDIODEV=plughw:CARD=ICH5,DEV=0; play m94.WAV > > Hasty reply. In further use, didn't always work. I removed the PCI > sound card, removed the plastic

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-28 Thread ghe2001
ets on the system > board and connected speakers. Subsequently commands such as this > always work. > > set AUDIODEV=plughw:CARD=ICH5,DEV=0 ; play a42.WAV > > SPECULATION > > The PCI card was meant to give better quality sound and was operated > properly by the Windows syst

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-09-28 Thread peter
ULATION The PCI card was meant to give better quality sound and was operated properly by the Windows system present when the machine was sold by Dell. When multiple sound devices exist, Linux still doesn't identify devices properly. REVISED CONCLUSION Upstream documentation relating to sound

Correction: Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-08-03 Thread peter
The Subject of my preceding message was a blunder. System board and PCI sound hardware From: pe...@easthope.ca Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:20:16 -0700 > Got sound from the Intel device on the system board. Oddly enough > there was a plastic cover over the sockets on the chassis back.

Re (2): Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-07-31 Thread peter
V play WARN alsa: can't encode 0-bit Unknown or not applicable In spite of the warning, sound is produced. Good! Might have a reliable way to hear voice messages. CONCLUSIONS Audio messages can be interpreted. Eg., set AUDIODEV=plughw:CARD=ICH5,DEV=0; play m94.WAV "aplay -L" re

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-07-30 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 05:55:43AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Reco > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 08:56:04 +0300 > > You could've started a new thread as well. > > For sure at least one reader would think "#$%&*, there he goes; another > thread broken!" Broken threads are usual

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-07-30 Thread peter
From: Reco Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 08:56:04 +0300 > You could've started a new thread as well. For sure at least one reader would think "#$%&*, there he goes; another thread broken!" > aplay -L > arecord -L peter@joule:/home/peter$ aplay -L null Discard all samples (playback) or

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-07-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 08:20:16PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Reco , Sun, 20 Oct 2019 20:57:52 +0300 > > So, does it work? > > Got sound from the Intel device on the system board. Oddly enough > there was a plastic cover over the sockets on the chassis back. Pried >

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

2021-07-29 Thread peter
eed Mostly consistent with visible hardware. Really just one USB. Odd that the Intel device refers to both ICH4 & ICH5. root@joule:~# alsactl init Found hardware: "ICH4" "Analog Devices AD1980" "AC97a:41445370" "0x1028" "0x0155" In

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-07 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 11:06:22PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I'm aware of that. My critique was specific to the "we take it out > > because it's dangerous to the user" part. > > That's often an explanation but not the main motivation. That would be even worse :) The reason I'm "in" free

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-07 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I'm aware of that. My critique was specific to the "we take it out > because it's dangerous to the user" part. That's often an explanation but not the main motivation. For the `none` cipher, I think it was, tho. IIRC the problem was that using the `none` cipher causes the authentication to be

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> It's entirely too common for obsolete encryption options that are >> kept for "compatibility" end up being a vector for compromise, and >> entirely reasonable to remove such options in order to provide the >> most secure and maintainable tool for the vast majority of users. > That's the

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> If they have buffer overflow-style holes, those should be fixed. >> Other than that I can't see how they can be less secure than the "none" >> cipher. > I guess since the "none" cipher isn't supported in debian's ssh Good point. > you will just drop this questionable line of argument? It

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Lee
On 7/6/21, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > Hi, everybody, as a bullseye user I am seeing messages like > > | Unable to negotiate with 10.0.17.52 port 22: no matching > | key exchange method found. Their offer: diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 > > with increasing frequency, especially when trying to ssh into >

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Karen Lewellen
I have a slightly different question about this issue. when open ssh decided that dh keys, for public and global use were somehow insecure, the ssh tool I use, sshdos, became limited allowing me to reach shellworld, but not say the Linux shell provided with our office dreamhost account any

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 05:30:27PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: [...] > > That's the attitude of authoritarian software: "my software is smarter > > than you". > > I think the reality is a bit more subtle ;-) > > In most cases, the real driver is a desire to keep the code simple and > to ease

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 04:45:50PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: [...] > This is ridiculous [...] Let's simply agree to differ. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> I think the first reaction should be to report it as a bug, so that the >> old cipher is re-added. I think the same argument in favor of including >> the "none" cipher should apply to including old deprecated ciphers. > The old ciphers are generally removed for a reason: because they are

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 10:18:44PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 02:11:21PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: [...] It's entirely too common for obsolete encryption options that are kept for "compatibility" end up being a vector for compromise, and entirely reasonable to

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 02:11:21PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: [...] > It's entirely too common for obsolete encryption options that are > kept for "compatibility" end up being a vector for compromise, and > entirely reasonable to remove such options in order to provide the > most secure and

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Like you, I have been using CLI options to the ssh command to adjust the > necessary algorithms if I need something "insecure". You should be able to set that option for a specific (set of) hosts in .ssh/config so you don't have to repeat it on the CLI every time. > My thought is that once

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 03:20:43PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: If they have buffer overflow-style holes, those should be fixed. Other than that I can't see how they can be less secure than the "none" cipher. I guess since the "none" cipher isn't supported in debian's ssh Good point. you

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 02:16:53PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Of course, the real answer is to not purchase products with "secure" management that can't be upgraded when it becomes "insecure" management. Sadly, this is not always possible. There are times where someone else decides what

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 02:11:21PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > If you want ancient crypto options, just run an ancient binary. They're very > easy to find in archive.debian.org. > Thankfully, Debian makes this sort of thing about as painless as it can be. > Of course, the real answer is to

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 08:05:11PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 01:43:07PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 01:02:49PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>I think the first reaction should be to report it as a bug, so that the >>>old cipher is re-added.

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 01:43:07PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 01:02:49PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>>I think the first reaction should be to report it as a bug, so that the > >>>old cipher is re-added. I think the same argument in favor of including > >>>the

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 01:02:49PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: I think the first reaction should be to report it as a bug, so that the old cipher is re-added. I think the same argument in favor of including the "none" cipher should apply to including old deprecated ciphers. The old ciphers

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 12:05:41PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Like you, I have been using CLI options to the ssh command to adjust the > > necessary algorithms if I need something "insecure". > > You should be able to set that option for a specific (set of) hosts in > .ssh/config so you

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