Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-05-01 Thread rhkramer
Oh, I meant to add that compacting is typically useful when record (email?) storage is in something like an mbox file -- it saves the need to rewrite the file each time a single file is deleted (for example). On the other hand, with storage in something like mdirr files (right name -- one

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-05-01 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 06:24:14 PM Default User wrote: > > What is 'compacting', what is it meant to do? The definition of compacting as I "grew up" with it (not sure where I first encountered it is the idea that in some applications, the act of "deleting" something doesn't actually delete

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-05-01 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 07:38:45AM +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 18:24 -0400, Default User wrote: > > It does occur to me that Evolution may use the maildir format rather > > than the mbox format [...] > I thought we were talking about IMAP protocol access to Google? In > which case

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-05-01 Thread Tixy
On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 18:24 -0400, Default User wrote: > It does occur to me that Evolution may use the maildir format rather > than the mbox format.  I just ASSumed that it used mbox, since in Menu > > File, there is an option to save messages in mbox format.  If > Evolution uses the maildir

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/05/2023 05:36, Stefan Monnier wrote: According to this: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/compacting-folders This basically explains that compacting is an operation that should fundamentally be transparent to the user, and that Thunderbird makes the user aware of it for ... no good

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread Default User
On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 20:47 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 06:26:53PM +0100, Tixy wrote: > > On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 11:19 -0400, Default User wrote: > > > (BTW, if anyone does have information about compacting folders in > > > Evolution, I would love to hear about it!) > >

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
> According to this: > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/compacting-folders This basically explains that compacting is an operation that should fundamentally be transparent to the user, and that Thunderbird makes the user aware of it for ... no good reason. Thunderbird will compact things for

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread Default User
On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 18:26 +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 11:19 -0400, Default User wrote: > > (BTW, if anyone does have information about compacting folders in > > Evolution, I would love to hear about it!) > > What is 'compacting', what is it meant to do? Sounds like >

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 06:26:53PM +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 11:19 -0400, Default User wrote: > > (BTW, if anyone does have information about compacting folders in > > Evolution, I would love to hear about it!) > > What is 'compacting', what is it meant to do? [...] > If it just

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread Tixy
On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 11:19 -0400, Default User wrote: > (BTW, if anyone does have information about compacting folders in > Evolution, I would love to hear about it!) What is 'compacting', what is it meant to do? Sounds like 'compressing' to me, don't know if protocols like IMAP has a way to ask

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread Default User
On Sat, 2023-04-29 at 00:01 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > For those who missed start of the thread: it is dedicated to IMAP > access > to Gmail and Evolution behavior. > > On 27/04/2023 23:15, Default User wrote: > > It stays in both folders, with > > only the one in "All Mail" having a line

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail)

2023-04-28 Thread Max Nikulin
For those who missed start of the thread: it is dedicated to IMAP access to Gmail and Evolution behavior. On 27/04/2023 23:15, Default User wrote: It stays in both folders, with only the one in "All Mail" having a line through it, showing that is marked for deletion, but is not deleted, and is

Re: Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-27 Thread Default User
On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 17:17 +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2023-04-26 at 11:05 -0400, Default User wrote: > > Even if it did not work from a Live Debian session, it makes no > > sense > > to me that Evolution could be designed this way.  I see no good > > reason > > that messages can be directly

Re: Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-27 Thread Default User
On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 17:26 +0200, Michel Verdier wrote: > Le 27 avril 2023 Default User a écrit : > > > Anyway, it would be interesting to hear from Evolution users, to > > see if > > others experience the situation I have described.  I would find it > > hard > > to believe that no one else on

Re: Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-27 Thread Default User
On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 17:26 +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 12:15 -0400, Default User wrote: > > If a message is in both of the folders "Inbox" and "All Mail", it > > CAN > > NOT be directly deleted from "All Mail". It stays in both folders, > > with > > only the one in "All Mail"

Re: Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-27 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 12:15 -0400, Default User wrote: > If a message is in both of the folders "Inbox" and "All Mail", it CAN > NOT be directly deleted from "All Mail". It stays in both folders, with > only the one in "All Mail" having a line through it, showing that is > marked for deletion, but

Re: Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-27 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2023-04-26 at 11:05 -0400, Default User wrote: > Even if it did not work from a Live Debian session, it makes no sense > to me that Evolution could be designed this way.  I see no good reason > that messages can be directly deleted from any other folder, but not > [Gmail]/All Mail.  > >

Re: Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-27 Thread Default User
On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 22:25 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 27/04/2023 21:38, Default User wrote: > > "All Mail" apparently assigned to all messages > > Do you expect that deleting from "All Mail" removes message from > another > folder to which you moved it earlier? I am in doubts it should be >

Re: Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-27 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 27 avril 2023 Default User a écrit : > Anyway, it would be interesting to hear from Evolution users, to see if > others experience the situation I have described. I would find it hard > to believe that no one else on debian-user@lists.debian.org uses > Gnome/Evolution on Debian Stable! I

Re: Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-27 Thread Max Nikulin
On 27/04/2023 21:38, Default User wrote: "All Mail" apparently assigned to all messages Do you expect that deleting from "All Mail" removes message from another folder to which you moved it earlier? I am in doubts it should be done without a dialog to confirm such operation. However I just

Re: Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-27 Thread Default User
On Thu, 2023-04-27 at 09:22 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/04/2023 22:05, Default User wrote: > > it absolutely refuses to delete email > > messages directly from the [Gmail]/All Mail folder of any email > > account. > > Disclaimer: I do not use evolution. > > Do you use IMAP for your gmail

Re: Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-26 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/04/2023 22:05, Default User wrote: it absolutely refuses to delete email messages directly from the [Gmail]/All Mail folder of any email account. Disclaimer: I do not use evolution. Do you use IMAP for your gmail account? Notice that IMAP assumes tree-like structure of folders and

Re: Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-26 Thread Default User
On Wed, 2023-04-26 at 11:11 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > Can't explain it, but it strikes me it's almost certainly a > permissions problem. > > Patrick > > > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 11:06 AM Default User > wrote: > > Strange . . . > > > > I run Debian 11 (Bullseye) Stable, up to

Re: Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-26 Thread Patrick Wiseman
Can't explain it, but it strikes me it's almost certainly a permissions problem. Patrick On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 11:06 AM Default User wrote: > Strange . . . > > I run Debian 11 (Bullseye) Stable, up to date, Gnome 3 desktop > environment. > > I recently set up Evolution email. Works okay.

Evolution email (problem?)

2023-04-26 Thread Default User
Strange . . . I run Debian 11 (Bullseye) Stable, up to date, Gnome 3 desktop environment. I recently set up Evolution email. Works okay. Two days ago, I realized that it absolutely refuses to delete email messages directly from the [Gmail]/All Mail folder of any email account. To delete a

RE: [SOLVED] Re: Email Problem

2017-06-17 Thread Michael Milliman
-Original Message- From: Brad Rogers [mailto:b...@fineby.me.uk] Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 12:57 AM To: Debian Users ML <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: [SOLVED] Re: Email Problem On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 17:51:16 -0500 Michael Milliman <michael.e.milli...@gmail.c

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Email Problem

2017-06-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 17:51:16 -0500 Michael Milliman wrote: Hello Michael, >Why is it we always miss what is blatantly obvious?? Because. ;-) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent"

[SOLVED] Re: Email Problem

2017-06-16 Thread Michael Milliman
On 06/16/2017 05:37 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > Hey, folks, I've got a little problem with the email on my system. I'm > running debian/Sid, but the issue has been going on for quite some time > even when I was running straight Jessie. I'm sure it's a configuration > thing, I'm just not sure

Email Problem

2017-06-16 Thread Michael Milliman
Hey, folks, I've got a little problem with the email on my system. I'm running debian/Sid, but the issue has been going on for quite some time even when I was running straight Jessie. I'm sure it's a configuration thing, I'm just not sure where to fix it. Here's the deal: When I'm in Firefox

email problem with debian-users and my isp

2004-03-06 Thread Kevin Mark
I have no problem recieving debian-user. As of 2 months ago, I have been unable to send email to debian-user. I am using an alternate account to see if this account works. my friend said that mail.pipeline.com may be the problem. It may be on an RBL. It may be because it uses round-robin. Any info

Re: email problem with debian-users and my isp

2004-03-06 Thread Katipo
Kevin Mark wrote: I have no problem recieving debian-user. As of 2 months ago, I have been unable to send email to debian-user. I am using an alternate account to see if this account works. my friend said that mail.pipeline.com may be the problem. It may be on an RBL. It may be because it uses

chartermi.net problem solved: was: continuing email problem

2002-12-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Just thought I'd send this in case somebody else runs into problems. a week without outgoing email from my cable Internet service and nothing but run-arounds!!! What was the problem? they are having problems with smtp.chartermi.net. All i had to do was change my smtp setting in exim to

Now fetchmail won't work!!! Re: chartermi.net problem solved: was:continuing email problem

2002-12-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
changed from smtp.chartermi.net to smtp.charter.net. Now I can send but had to go to my shell account to fetch!!! Getting smtp transaction errors no matter where i fetch from. I wasn't supposed to change the pop setting just the smtp setting but now fetchmail won't work right. Is there a seting

Re: Now fetchmail won't work!!! Re: chartermi.net problem solved:was: continuing email problem

2002-12-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
fetchmail problem solved: called stupidity on part of user!!! I commented out the smtp auth lines since they aren't needed; accidentally had a 3 instead of a # in front of one line. Hence, exim config error; hence, no fetchmail. Sorry!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

continuing email problem: charter reply

2002-12-17 Thread Cheryl Homiak
first, I was able to change my ip back at least to a 24.xxx.xx.xxx by using dhcpcd -k and then rebooting. but it didn't solve the problem. secondly, now that i've uncommented and edited all of the auth lines (shown below) I am getting 'relay prohibitted. You are not allowed to relay mail rather

Email Problem

2001-05-31 Thread Ian Perry
Hi, Its so nice to be back in the land of the linux. I have been asked if it is possible to monitor specific outgoing email ? By specific I mean either from a specific email return address, or a specific IP number. We are using sendmail, SMTP, and POP3 It is easy enough to monitor the