Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 20 mai 13, 23:06:29, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 23:19 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: You are of course aware of debian-user-german, or not? I don't know the German mailing list. I know some good German forums, but international lists and forums simply provide a huger

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-20 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Sonntag, 19. Mai 2013 schrieb Lisi Reisz: On Sunday 19 May 2013 17:05:40 Lisi Reisz wrote: Your backported packages, _and_ _only_ your backported packages will be updated from wheezy-backports. Sorry, upgraded. Lisi Hi Lisi, no they did not. I thought, libreoffice would

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 20 mai 13, 09:21:59, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: no they did not. I thought, libreoffice would automaticallly update, as wheezy- backports was in my sources.list. But although the packagaes appeared in aptitude, they won't update automatically. So I did it manually. Dear Hans-J, could

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 20 May 2013 08:21:59 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Am Sonntag, 19. Mai 2013 schrieb Lisi Reisz: On Sunday 19 May 2013 17:05:40 Lisi Reisz wrote: Your backported packages, _and_ _only_ your backported packages will be updated from wheezy-backports. Sorry, upgraded. Lisi Hi

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 11:40 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: As per default configuration of backports (priority 100) 1 will *not* happen unless you use '-t backports', but 2 will. More information about priorities can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences -

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-20 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Dear Andrei Dear Hans-J, could you please clarify your terminology? What do you mean by 'automatically update' in above paragraph? Which one of the following do you mean: 1. I have package version 1 and expected version 2~bpo from backports to be installed What I meant was I have package

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 20 May 2013 11:05:53 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Dear Andrei Dear Hans-J, could you please clarify your terminology? What do you mean by 'automatically update' in above paragraph? Which one of the following do you mean: 1. I have package version 1 and expected version 2~bpo from

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-20 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Lisi! It does. The lower pinning is to prevent backports from upgrading your whole installation. If you install from Stable and do not change your sources.list, upgrades will only be taken from Stable. To repeat what I said earlier, packages from backports _and_ _only_ packages from

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 20 May 2013 12:34:55 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Andrei is one of the most knowledgeable and helpful of the people on this list.  He is also very experienced.   You appear to be relatively new to Debian.   Ahem, no, I am not new to debian. Sorry. :-( Mea culpa. But I am no

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 20 mai 13, 12:49:21, Lisi Reisz wrote: Oh, disagree with me all you like - but be cautious about disagreeing with Andrei! Please, you make it sound like I'm from the Romanian mafia or something :p Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 20 mai 13, 13:34:55, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Oh, I never doubted that you were imprecise. I was imprecise, maybe I cannotz express myself in English as well as in my mother language German. I excuse for that! You are of course aware of debian-user-german, or not? Kind regards,

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 23:19 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 20 mai 13, 13:34:55, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Oh, I never doubted that you were imprecise. I was imprecise, maybe I cannotz express myself in English as well as in my mother language German. I excuse for that! You are

Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-19 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hello all, I wanted to install LO4 in wheezy. I wondered, why it is in wheezy-backports but not in testing. Maybe the packages in wheezy-backports are too young for testing? However, I managed it by using aptitude and made sure, all dependencies are correct. But I guess, there is an easier

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-19 Thread theartloy
Hi Hans, If you want to see why a certain package version has not yet made it from unstable into testing, you can go to: http://packages.qa.debian.org/package replacing package with the name of package in question. Looking at the page for libreoffice[1], under testing migration you can

wheezy-backports not on p.d.o? [was: Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions]

2013-05-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 mai 13, 11:30:50, theart...@zoho.com wrote: As a different question, could anyone please tell me why wheezy-backports is not showing up on packages.debian.org? No, but we can ask the people taking care of it ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 mai 13, 11:39:30, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hello all, I wanted to install LO4 in wheezy. I wondered, why it is in wheezy-backports but not in testing. Maybe the packages in wheezy-backports are too young for testing? However, I managed it by using aptitude and made sure, all

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-19 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Andrei, But I guess, there is an easier way, to update my ONLY my installed packages out of wheezy. In the wiki I read, you can use apt-get -t wheezy-backports install $package, which worked well. Not sure what you mean here, could you please rephrase/elaborate? No, not quite. I

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 19 May 2013 16:01:51 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: But I guess, there is an easier way, to update my ONLY my installed packages out of wheezy. In the wiki I read, you can use apt-get -t wheezy-backports install $package, which worked well. Not sure what you mean here, could you

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 19 May 2013 17:05:40 Lisi Reisz wrote: Your backported packages, _and_ _only_  your backported packages will be updated from wheezy-backports. Sorry, upgraded. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 mai 13, 17:01:51, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Normally a package has to be in testing first and only then backported (to ensure some testing). The package in backports has a special version so that apt/dpkg always consider the package in testing to be newer (even if the software

Re: Libreoffice4 in wheezy? Several questions

2013-05-19 Thread Richard Hector
On 20/05/13 03:01, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: and then apt-get upgrade libreoffice-* | grep installed or some similar Note: Untested. I think # aptitude install '?name(libreoffice)?installed' would do approximately that? Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to