On 7/8/19, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 08 July 2019 14:48:59 Lee wrote:
>
>> On 7/8/19, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> > On Lu, 08 iul 19, 13:37:26, Lee wrote:
>> >> On 7/7/19, andreimpope...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> >> > The dangers are not at all obvious to me, possibly because I
>> >> > haven't
On Monday 08 July 2019 14:48:59 Lee wrote:
> On 7/8/19, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Lu, 08 iul 19, 13:37:26, Lee wrote:
> >> On 7/7/19, andreimpope...@gmail.com
wrote:
> >> > The dangers are not at all obvious to me, possibly because I
> >> > haven't used it much (if at all).
> >>
> >> Read
On Mon 08 Jul 2019 at 13:37:26 -0400, Lee wrote:
> On 7/7/19, andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sb, 06 iul 19, 15:36:37, Lee wrote:
> >>
> >> "an accident waiting to happen" was from me and I also gave the rfc
> >> for mdns, so that's hardly "nothing of substance to support that
> >> view."
On 7/8/19, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 08 iul 19, 13:37:26, Lee wrote:
>> On 7/7/19, andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > The dangers are not at all obvious to me, possibly because I haven't
>> > used it much (if at all).
>>
>> Read the first three paragraph of the "Security
On Sat 06 Jul 2019 at 18:14:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> So I now have a working network. Free of the bogus inventions of dhcpd5
> and avahi. That _was_ the point of all this hoopla in the first place.
>
> Now, I have learned what works to _my_ satisfaction.
>
> Have you? Or did you quit
On Lu, 08 iul 19, 13:37:26, Lee wrote:
> On 7/7/19, andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > The dangers are not at all obvious to me, possibly because I haven't
> > used it much (if at all).
>
> Read the first three paragraph of the "Security Considerations" section
>
On 7/7/19, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-07-06, Lee wrote:
>>
>> "an accident waiting to happen" was from me and I also gave the rfc
>> for mdns, so that's hardly "nothing of substance to support that
>
> I see. So the totality of the mdns rfc (*somewhat* more succinct than a
> 19th century Russian
On 7/7/19, andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sb, 06 iul 19, 15:36:37, Lee wrote:
>>
>> "an accident waiting to happen" was from me and I also gave the rfc
>> for mdns, so that's hardly "nothing of substance to support that
>> view." If you're having trouble finding the rfc, it's here
>>
On Mon 08 Jul 2019 at 08:36:38 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 08:46:19AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 20:10:42 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > But that begs another question Greg. If it hasn't anything to do with
> > > avahi-daemon, whyinhell
On Monday 08 July 2019 08:36:38 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 08:46:19AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 20:10:42 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > But that begs another question Greg. If it hasn't anything to do
> > > with avahi-daemon, whyinhell did
On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 08:46:19AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 20:10:42 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > But that begs another question Greg. If it hasn't anything to do with
> > avahi-daemon, whyinhell did purging avahi-daemon take the libnsswitch
> > package with it?
>
On Sunday 07 July 2019 12:28:21 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 07 iul 19, 07:17:33, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 July 2019 02:58:46 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > BTW, it's still not clear to me whether this is about a clean
> > > buster install or some image based on buster.
> >
>
restarting networking, and
> > the problem was fixed, everything then worked correctly,
>
> Did you ever find out why dhcpcd5 was even starting?
I solved this mystery.
Took an upgrade to buster, and somewhat botched network configuration in
the result. But it was worth it.
First, unlike ISC d
On Du, 07 iul 19, 07:17:33, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 07 July 2019 02:58:46 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > BTW, it's still not clear to me whether this is about a clean buster
> > install or some image based on buster.
> >
> Its the raspian image based on buster-rc2 AIUI.
As
On Sun 07 Jul 2019 at 00:57:58 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 07 July 2019 00:11:43 David Wright wrote:
> > On Sat 06 Jul 2019 at 18:14:04 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Saturday 06 July 2019 15:35:10 Brian wrote:
> > > > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 21:35:25 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-07 13:17:33)
> On Sunday 07 July 2019 02:58:46 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Sb, 06 iul 19, 18:14:04, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > If you read the full thread, you will find where I found and fixed
> > > that problem, by killing dhcpd5 with htop, and
On Sunday 07 July 2019 03:05:41 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sb, 06 iul 19, 20:30:02, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Its part of the buster-rc2 installed image,
>
> Is this an image you downloaded from somewhere (where?) or of your own
> creation (what method? Debian Installer, debootstrap,
On Sunday 07 July 2019 02:58:46 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sb, 06 iul 19, 18:14:04, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > If you read the full thread, you will find where I found and fixed
> > that problem, by killing dhcpd5 with htop, and restarting
> > networking, and the problem was fixed,
On 2019-07-06, Lee wrote:
>
> "an accident waiting to happen" was from me and I also gave the rfc
> for mdns, so that's hardly "nothing of substance to support that
I see. So the totality of the mdns rfc (*somewhat* more succinct than a
19th century Russian novelistic endeavor) is the
On Sb, 06 iul 19, 20:30:02, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> Its part of the buster-rc2 installed image,
Is this an image you downloaded from somewhere (where?) or of your own
creation (what method? Debian Installer, debootstrap, etc.)
Kind regards,
Andrei
--
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
On Sb, 06 iul 19, 18:14:04, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> If you read the full thread, you will find where I found and fixed that
> problem, by killing dhcpd5 with htop, and restarting networking, and
> the problem was fixed, everything then worked correctly,
Did you ever find out why dhcpcd5 was
On Sb, 06 iul 19, 15:36:37, Lee wrote:
>
> "an accident waiting to happen" was from me and I also gave the rfc
> for mdns, so that's hardly "nothing of substance to support that
> view." If you're having trouble finding the rfc, it's here
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6762
Care to
On Sunday 07 July 2019 00:11:43 David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 06 Jul 2019 at 18:14:04 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 06 July 2019 15:35:10 Brian wrote:
> > > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 21:35:25 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Friday 05 July 2019 15:23:38 Brian wrote:
> > > > > I was
On Sat 06 Jul 2019 at 21:38:10 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 06 July 2019 20:30:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 06 July 2019 12:02:51 David Wright wrote:
> > > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 21:19:29 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Friday 05 July 2019 12:08:45 David Wright
On Sat 06 Jul 2019 at 18:14:04 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 06 July 2019 15:35:10 Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 21:35:25 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Friday 05 July 2019 15:23:38 Brian wrote:
> > > > I was rather hoping someone would clarify why not having
> > > >
On Saturday 06 July 2019 20:30:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 06 July 2019 12:02:51 David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 21:19:29 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Friday 05 July 2019 12:08:45 David Wright wrote:
> > > > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 06:06:30 (-0400), Gene Heskett
On Saturday 06 July 2019 12:02:51 David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 21:19:29 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 05 July 2019 12:08:45 David Wright wrote:
> > > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 06:06:30 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:48:56
On Saturday 06 July 2019 15:35:10 Brian wrote:
> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 21:35:25 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 05 July 2019 15:23:38 Brian wrote:
> > > I was rather hoping someone would clarify why not having
> > > avahi-daemon in the first place was a good thing in general. Your
> > >
On 7/6/19, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-07-05, wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 09:27:29PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Some users are always fearful of new technology. They find all sorts of
>>> ways to rubbish it, usually without any strong technical grounds but by
>>> an appeal to
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 21:35:25 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 05 July 2019 15:23:38 Brian wrote:
>
> > I was rather hoping someone would clarify why not having avahi-daemon
> > in the first place was a good thing in general. Your problem doesn't
> > particularly interest me because it is
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 21:19:29 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 05 July 2019 12:08:45 David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 06:06:30 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:48:56 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Jo, 04 iul 19, 11:40:30, Gene Heskett
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 20:10:42 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 05 July 2019 08:41:47 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:35:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > yup, and if the repos were open... They are not as I've previously
> > > posted. I can report that apt --purge
On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 08:13:03AM -, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-07-05, wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 09:27:29PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> Some users are always fearful of new technology. They find all sorts of
> >> ways to rubbish it, usually without any strong
On 2019-07-05, wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 09:27:29PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Some users are always fearful of new technology. They find all sorts of
>> ways to rubbish it, usually without any strong technical grounds but by
>> an appeal to tradition and emotion.
>
> Some other
On Vi, 05 iul 19, 06:35:53, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 23:54:21 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Just the fact that you are running Raspbian instead of pure Debian is
> > already an important clue and possibly a major hindrance in helping
> > you (we don't know what
On Vi, 05 iul 19, 21:19:29, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 05 July 2019 12:08:45 David Wright wrote:
>
> > As I've said, though, I'll go no further in looking at the problems
> > you have because I think that many of them are of your own making.
>
> Thats also true, simply because I'm the last
On Vi, 05 iul 19, 15:17:16, Reco wrote:
>
> Debian may or may not get there - for instance, I heard some good news
> about Raspberry Pi support in buster (not to be confused with Raspbian).
Care to submit an entry for the Release Notes, similar to the one for
Allwinner A64 based boards?
Kind
On Friday 05 July 2019 15:23:38 Brian wrote:
> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 04:33:42 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:42:11 Brian wrote:
> > > If nobody objects I would like to reword that statement. Many,
> > > many users will have avahi-daemon on their systems; a few won't.
>
On Friday 05 July 2019 13:00:42 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 17:45:54)
>
> > On Friday 05 July 2019 07:34:42 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 12:54:05)
> > >
> > > > Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there
> > >
On Friday 05 July 2019 12:08:45 David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 06:06:30 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:48:56 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Jo, 04 iul 19, 11:40:30, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > 1. content of /etc/network/interfaces and all
On Friday 05 July 2019 09:17:47 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 04:02:36PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 08:41:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > Gene, /etc/nsswitch.conf is NOT part of any Debian package.
> >
> > Actually, nsswitch.conf is created by postinst
On Friday 05 July 2019 08:59:41 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 04:33:42AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Here is your Clarification: I used apt to purge avahi-daemon which
> > took nsswitch with it,
>
> Let's test this assertion.
>
>
> wooledg:~$ ls -l /etc/nss*
> -rw-r--r-- 1
On Friday 05 July 2019 08:41:47 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:35:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > yup, and if the repos were open... They are not as I've previously
> > posted. I can report that apt --purge does not, I still see
> > an /etc/nsswitch.conf, even though ts
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 09:27:29PM +0100, Brian wrote:
[...]
> Some users are always fearful of new technology. They find all sorts of
> ways to rubbish it, usually without any strong technical grounds but by
> an appeal to tradition and emotion.
Some other people always try to skirt a sound
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 16:17:11 -0400, Lee wrote:
> On 7/5/19, Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 04:33:42 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> >> On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:42:11 Brian wrote:
> >>
> >> > If nobody objects I would like to reword that statement. Many, many
> >> > users will have
On 7/5/19, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 04:33:42 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:42:11 Brian wrote:
>>
>> > If nobody objects I would like to reword that statement. Many, many
>> > users will have avahi-daemon on their systems; a few won't. The idea
>> > that
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 04:33:42 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:42:11 Brian wrote:
>
> > If nobody objects I would like to reword that statement. Many, many
> > users will have avahi-daemon on their systems; a few won't. The idea
> > that
> >
> > > Not installing this
On Friday 05 July 2019 08:17:16 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:54:05AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > The idea
> > > > that
> > > >
> > > > > Not installing this software in the first place works even
> > > > > better.
> > > >
> > > > requires clarification.
> > >
On 7/5/19, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 05 July 2019 05:13:48 Brian wrote:
>
>> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 09:56:39 +0300, Reco wrote:
>>
>> > Third, whatever good avahi does is limited to a single L2 network
>> > segment by the very definition of how it works. This particular
>> > problem shows it
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 11:11:11 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 05 July 2019 05:13:48 Brian wrote:
>
> > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 09:56:39 +0300, Reco wrote:
> >
> > > Second, contrary to the popular thinking here, the world does not
> > > start and does not end with GNOME and x86 along with
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 17:45:54)
> On Friday 05 July 2019 07:34:42 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>
> > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 12:54:05)
> >
> > > Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there
> > > by dd'ing the complete filesystem image to the boot media,
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 06:06:30 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:48:56 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jo, 04 iul 19, 11:40:30, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > 1. content of /etc/network/interfaces and all files under
> > > > /etc/network/interfaces.d/
> > >
> > >
On Friday 05 July 2019 07:34:55 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:54:05AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there by
> > dd'ing the complete filesystem image to the boot media, usually a
> > u-sd,
>
> so far,
On Friday 05 July 2019 07:34:42 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 12:54:05)
>
> > Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there by
> > dd'ing the complete filesystem image to the boot media, usually a
> > u-sd, so you get that crap regardless and must
On Friday 05 July 2019 07:29:52 Tixy wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-07-05 at 06:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 05 July 2019 02:56:39 Reco wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > Easy. You don't understand what the software does (Gene's here),
> > > or you don't need its functions (I'm here) - you just do
On Friday 05 July 2019 05:13:48 Brian wrote:
> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 09:56:39 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:42:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > > > >
On Friday 05 July 2019 05:13:36 Curt wrote:
> On 2019-07-05, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > pi@picnc:/ $ sudo apt update
> > Get:1 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster InRelease
> > [15.0 kB] Get:2 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster
> > InRelease [25.1 kB] Reading package lists...
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 04:02:36PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 08:41:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Gene, /etc/nsswitch.conf is NOT part of any Debian package.
>
> Actually, nsswitch.conf is created by postinst script of libc-bin
> package, to technically nsswitch.conf is a
Hi.
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 08:41:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:35:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > yup, and if the repos were open... They are not as I've previously
> > posted. I can report that apt --purge does not, I still see
> > an
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 04:33:42AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Here is your Clarification: I used apt to purge avahi-daemon which
> took nsswitch with it,
Let's test this assertion.
wooledg:~$ ls -l /etc/nss*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 545 Apr 1 08:58 /etc/nsswitch.conf
wooledg:~$ sudo cp
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:35:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> yup, and if the repos were open... They are not as I've previously
> posted. I can report that apt --purge does not, I still see
> an /etc/nsswitch.conf, even though ts been purged.
... what.
Gene, /etc/nsswitch.conf is NOT part
Hi.
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:54:05AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > The idea
> > > that
> > >
> > > > Not installing this software in the first place works even
> > > > better.
> > >
> > > requires clarification.
> >
> > Easy. You don't understand what the software does (Gene's
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:54:05AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
[...]
> Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there by
> dd'ing the complete filesystem image to the boot media, usually a u-sd,
so far, so good...
> so you get that crap regardless and must physically remove
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 12:54:05)
> Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there by
> dd'ing the complete filesystem image to the boot media, usually a
> u-sd, so you get that crap regardless and must physically remove it
> before a staticly defined, hosts file
On Fri, 2019-07-05 at 06:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 05 July 2019 02:56:39 Reco wrote:
[...]
> > Easy. You don't understand what the software does (Gene's here), or
> > you don't need its functions (I'm here) - you just do not install it.
> > You don't fight with it, you don't try to
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 12:35:53)
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 23:54:21 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Just the fact that you are running Raspbian instead of pure Debian
> > is already an important clue and possibly a major hindrance in
> > helping you (we don't know what other
On Friday 05 July 2019 02:56:39 Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:42:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > > > On
On Thursday 04 July 2019 23:54:21 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jo, 04 iul 19, 04:42:40, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 July 2019 03:16:31 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > 3. Information on anything (and I do mean anything) else you might
> > >
On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:48:56 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jo, 04 iul 19, 11:40:30, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > 1. content of /etc/network/interfaces and all files under
> > > /etc/network/interfaces.d/
> >
> > pi@picnc:~ $ cat /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
>
> Is below the literal output
On 2019-07-05, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> pi@picnc:/ $ sudo apt update
> Get:1 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster InRelease [15.0 kB]
> Get:2 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster InRelease [25.1 kB]
> Reading package lists... Done
> E: Release file for
>
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 09:56:39 +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:42:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:44:14 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:42:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > As always, all generalizations suck. Some do avahi, others don't
> > > (full disclosure: I am in
On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:42:11 Brian wrote:
> On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:42:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >
On Jo, 04 iul 19, 04:42:40, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 03:16:31 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > 3. Information on anything (and I do mean anything) else you might
> > have done to your network configuration after installing buster,
> >
On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:05:09 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > I'd also consider exterminating avahi with
On Jo, 04 iul 19, 11:40:30, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> > 1. content of /etc/network/interfaces and all files under
> > /etc/network/interfaces.d/
> pi@picnc:~ $ cat /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
Is below the literal output of the cat above?
Please post also /etc/network/interfaces.
> auto eth0
>
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:42:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> > As always, all generalizations suck. Some do avahi, others don't (full
> > disclosure: I am in the "don't" camp, as many may have guessed :-)
>
> If nobody objects I
On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > I'd also consider exterminating avahi
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > I'd also consider exterminating avahi with extreme prejudice, i.e.
> > > 'apt
> > > purge avahi-daemon'. Really
On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I'd also consider exterminating avahi with extreme prejudice, i.e.
> > 'apt
> > purge avahi-daemon'. Really simplifies things. Not installing this
> > software in the first place
On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
[...]
> I'd also consider exterminating avahi with extreme prejudice, i.e. 'apt
> purge avahi-daemon'. Really simplifies things. Not installing this
> software in the first place works even better.
Gene Heskett can follow this advice if he
On 7/4/19, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 03:16:31 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Mi, 03 iul 19, 21:03:19, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 03 July 2019 16:12:31 Reco wrote:
>> >
>> > And Gene moved. Question unanswered yet.
>> >
>> > > Hi.
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jul
On Thursday 04 July 2019 12:18:13 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 11:40:30AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 July 2019 03:16:31 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Mi, 03 iul 19, 21:03:19, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 03 July 2019 16:12:31 Reco
On 2019-07-04 15:40, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Thursday 04 July 2019 06:15:56 mick crane wrote:
On 2019-07-04 09:42, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Sorry, I don't see it that way, I see a concentrated effort to make
> me use dhcpd, instead of static, every machine in the system knows
> the address of
Hi.
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 11:40:30AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 03:16:31 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Mi, 03 iul 19, 21:03:19, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 03 July 2019 16:12:31 Reco wrote:
> > >
> > > And Gene moved. Question unanswered
mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state
DOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether b8:27:eb:86:12:78 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> ip r # short for 'ip route'
pi@picnc:~ $ ip r
default dev eth0 scope link src 169.254.163.253 metric 202
169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link src 169.254.163.253 met
On Thursday 04 July 2019 06:15:56 mick crane wrote:
> On 2019-07-04 09:42, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>
> > Sorry, I don't see it that way, I see a concentrated effort to make
> > me use dhcpd, instead of static, every machine in the system knows
> > the address of ALL the other machines on my local
On 2019-07-04 09:42, Gene Heskett wrote:
Sorry, I don't see it that way, I see a concentrated effort to make me
use dhcpd, instead of static, every machine in the system knows the
address of ALL the other machines on my local 192.168.xx.nn/24 network.
Using dhcp means I'd have to setup a 2nd
On Thursday 04 July 2019 05:25:05 Felix Miata wrote:
> Gene Heskett composed on 2019-07-04 04:42 (UTC-0400):
> > every release newer than wheezy has made it progressively
> > more difficult to make a staticly defined network work.
>
> Given the myriad of successes in your 8+ decades, I'm baffled
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-07-04 04:42 (UTC-0400):
> every release newer than wheezy has made it progressively
> more difficult to make a staticly defined network work.
Given the myriad of successes in your 8+ decades, I'm baffled that you are
continually flummoxed by fixed IP networking.
es and all files under
> /etc/network/interfaces.d/
>
> (I seem to recall you are using ifupdown)
>
> 2. Full output of:
> apt list --installed 'network-manager*' # might be empty
> apt list --installed 'avahi*' # might be empty
> systemctl status systemd-networkd
> i
systemd-networkd
ip a # short for 'ip address'
ip r # short for 'ip route'
3. Information on anything (and I do mean anything) else you might have
done to your network configuration after installing buster, including
but not limited to:
* installing stuff, especially if from source
* removing stuf
On 8/14/2018 10:39 AM, Remigio wrote:
Il giorno martedì 14 agosto 2018 10:20:04 UTC+2, john doe ha scritto:
On 8/14/2018 9:05 AM, Remigio wrote:
Hi there,
recently I installed Debian 9 Stretch and I noticed that the network
configuration management method was substantially changed.
Infact
Il giorno martedì 14 agosto 2018 14:50:04 UTC+2, Greg Wooledge ha scritto:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:05:34AM -0700, Remigio wrote:
...
Many thanks Greg for your clear exposition, I think that's what I was looking
for.
Regards
On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 12:31:22 +0100
Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 01:35:56AM -0700, Remigio wrote:
> > desktop or what other software did you install - XFCE, or Gnome
> >> or KDE? Then folks might be able to help ...
> >>
> >> Also, how would you -like- to configure your
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:05:34AM -0700, Remigio wrote:
> recently I installed Debian 9 Stretch
[...]
> Could you help me please to understand where are network configuration files
> and how to manage them?
If, during the installation, you choose to install a Desktop Environment,
the
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 01:35:56AM -0700, Remigio wrote:
desktop or what other software did you install - XFCE, or Gnome
or KDE? Then folks might be able to help ...
Also, how would you -like- to configure your networking?
Hi Zenaan, :-)
the desktop environment is Xfce and I'd love to
...
> What desktop or what other software did you install - XFCE, or Gnome
> or KDE? Then folks might be able to help ...
>
> Also, how would you -like- to configure your networking?
Hi Zenaan, :-)
the desktop environment is Xfce and I'd love to manage networking via shell.
Thanks and regards
On Tue 14 Aug 2018 at 01:14:45 -0700, Remigio wrote:
> ..-
> > What desktop or what other software did you install - XFCE, or Gnome
> > or KDE? Then folks might be able to help ...
> >
> > Also, how would you -like- to configure your networking?
>
> Hi Zenaan, :-)
> the desktop is Xfce and
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