Re: Change in plans (was: Re: Another possible device (was: Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station))

2020-03-29 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 08:50:11 PM David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-03-28 17:19, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > To clarifly / amplify -- I don't think it is going to be worth the > > trouble to try to make it (the Wavlink) work. > > Well, that's no fun. :-( ;-) > I have found that it is

Re: Change in plans (was: Re: Another possible device (was: Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station))

2020-03-29 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-03-28 17:17, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, March 28, 2020 04:41:57 PM David Christensen wrote: On 2020-03-28 12:18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I received the Wavlink device, but I'm fairly certain I'm going to return it and give up on it. (I'm not clear on what software /

Re: Change in plans (was: Re: Another possible device (was: Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station))

2020-03-28 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 08:17:56 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I haven't unwrapped the unit -- I'm returning the unit in the original, > intact packaging. To clarifly / amplify -- I don't think it is going to be worth the trouble to try to make it (the Wavlink) work.

Re: Change in plans (was: Re: Another possible device (was: Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station))

2020-03-28 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 04:41:57 PM David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-03-28 12:18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I received the Wavlink device, but I'm fairly certain I'm going to return > > it and give up on it. (I'm not clear on what software / drivers I'd > > have to find and install, and

Re: Change in plans (was: Re: Another possible device (was: Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station))

2020-03-28 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-03-28 12:18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I received the Wavlink device, but I'm fairly certain I'm going to return it and give up on it. (I'm not clear on what software / drivers I'd have to find and install, and the device says it doesn't support Linux (but does mention that it works

Change in plans (was: Re: Another possible device (was: Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station))

2020-03-28 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 08:32:27 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, March 22, 2020 08:37:48 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > In that other thread, I point out that I decided to buy a Wavlink 3.0 > > docking station (with HDMI, DVI, and VGA video outputs) (on sale today at > > Newegg) and

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-25 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, March 16, 2020 11:22:20 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > You could get a USB hub that could connect some peripherals -- > > > keyboard, mouse, printer, USB sticks... but nothing that will > > > handle video or power connections. > > > The generic laptop docks rely on

Re: Another possible device (was: Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station)

2020-03-24 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 09:10:16 AM Joe wrote: > USB hubs are not peer-peer like the old Ethernet hubs. USB is a (quite > complex) master-submaster-slave protocol with each device negotiating > for speed and bandwidth with the one 'above'. The electronics of a USB > hub shares out the bandwidth

Re: Another possible device (was: Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station)

2020-03-24 Thread Joe
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 08:32:27 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >* because the device is a USB hub, maybe the laptop could be > connected to one of the USB 3.0 ports USB hubs are not peer-peer like the old Ethernet hubs. USB is a (quite complex) master-submaster-slave protocol with each device

Re: Another possible device (was: Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station)

2020-03-24 Thread Dan Ritter
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Hmm, just by accident today, I came across another device that could possibly > do the job (in kind of a MacGyver-like approach ;-) > > I'll give a link to it, mention the price, point out the problems that might > prevent it from doing the job, before I say that I

Another possible device (was: Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station)

2020-03-24 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 08:37:48 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > In that other thread, I point out that I decided to buy a Wavlink 3.0 > docking station (with HDMI, DVI, and VGA video outputs) (on sale today at > Newegg) and a dual USB 3.0 ExpressCard on ebay (for under $10). Hmm, just by

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-23 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, March 23, 2020 02:27:17 AM David Christensen wrote: > The 187 MB/s is a worst-case scenario for FHD video -- decode on the CPU > and send uncompressed frames over USB 3.0 to the video RAM in the > docking station. Hopefully Debian, Linux, Xorg, whatever, have the > architecture and

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-23 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-03-22 17:37, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to all who replied, to either this thread or my other related one, "Speed of USB ports on Inspiron 1501". In that other thread, I point out that I decided to buy a Wavlink 3.0 docking station (with HDMI, DVI, and VGA video outputs) (on sale

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-22 Thread rhkramer
Thanks to all who replied, to either this thread or my other related one, "Speed of USB ports on Inspiron 1501". In that other thread, I point out that I decided to buy a Wavlink 3.0 docking station (with HDMI, DVI, and VGA video outputs) (on sale today at Newegg) and a dual USB 3.0

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-17 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Mon, 16 Mar 2020, rhkramer wrote: (Aside: I need to get a docking station with a VGA output as I "run" the laptop through a KVM switch and one of the computers connected to it has no HDMI output, and the KVM switch itself has no HDMI input.) I get the idea (or I

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-17 Thread Joe
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:22:44 + (GMT) "G.W. Haywood" wrote: > Hi there, > > On Mon, 16 Mar 2020, rhkramer wrote: > > > (Aside: I need to get a docking station with a VGA output as I > > "run" the laptop through a KVM switch and one of the computers > > connected to it has no HDMI

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-16 Thread connie
>>> Any recommendations for a suitable docking station? I'd go with a good old powered USB2 hub, and connect keyboard, mouse, and whatever else you want to that. That should get you down to one USB and one VGA cable. >> The generic laptop docks rely on high-bandwidth, high-power USB3 ports, and

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-16 Thread Jack Dangler
On 3/16/20 9:50 AM, Andrii Borovyi wrote: Once again I though about getting a dock station for my Dell Vostro 3360. Seems like there is no easy solution there. The only thing I discovered is to switch to Latitude or XPS models (sorry, but no Inspiron nor Vostro) that have support for docking

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-16 Thread Dan Ritter
Stefan Monnier wrote: > > You could get a USB hub that could connect some peripherals -- > > keyboard, mouse, printer, USB sticks... but nothing that will > > handle video or power connections. > > The generic laptop docks rely on high-bandwidth, high-power USB3 > > ports, and laptop support for

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-16 Thread David Wright
On Mon 16 Mar 2020 at 08:42:17 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > (Aside: I need to get a docking station with a VGA output as I "run" the > laptop through a KVM switch and one of the computers connected to it has no > HDMI output, and the KVM switch itself has no HDMI input.) If it helps,

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-16 Thread Andrii Borovyi
Once again I though about getting a dock station for my Dell Vostro 3360. Seems like there is no easy solution there. The only thing I discovered is to switch to Latitude or XPS models (sorry, but no Inspiron nor Vostro) that have support for docking stations. Unfortunately, that's the only

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> You could get a USB hub that could connect some peripherals -- > keyboard, mouse, printer, USB sticks... but nothing that will > handle video or power connections. > The generic laptop docks rely on high-bandwidth, high-power USB3 > ports, and laptop support for alternate video modes sent over

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-16 Thread deloptes
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm thinking about buying a laptop docking station to make it easier to > disconnect the laptop to take it to meetings. > > I don't know much about a laptop docking station except that the ones I've > looked at seem to need only a USB (C or A) cable to connect the

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-16 Thread Dan Ritter
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Asking this OT question here because this is my go to list for questions, > especially ones for which I don't belong to a list that might be more > specific > to this subject. > > Background: I've installed Buster on an old laptop (my newest laptop, a Dell >

OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-16 Thread rhkramer
Asking this OT question here because this is my go to list for questions, especially ones for which I don't belong to a list that might be more specific to this subject. Background: I've installed Buster on an old laptop (my newest laptop, a Dell Inspiron 1501) and I'm working on installing