Re: kernels in testing (was: Re: Debian failed)

2022-12-18 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 3:02 PM George Olson wrote: > > > On 12/16/22 18:41, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 2:05 PM songbird wrote: > >> Timothy M Butterworth wrote: >> ... >> > Testing and Sid track pretty close to the latest kernel releases. >> Testing >> >

Re: kernels in testing (was: Re: Debian failed)

2022-12-18 Thread George Olson
On 12/16/22 18:41, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 2:05 PM songbird wrote: Timothy M Butterworth wrote: ... > Testing and Sid track pretty close to the latest kernel releases. Testing > currently has version 6.0.10. New kernel versions are first

Re: kernels in testing (was: Re: Debian failed)

2022-12-16 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 2:05 PM songbird wrote: > Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > ... > > Testing and Sid track pretty close to the latest kernel releases. Testing > > currently has version 6.0.10. New kernel versions are first uploaded to > Sid > > then after about a week they are uploaded to

Re: kernels in testing (was: Re: Debian failed)

2022-12-16 Thread songbird
Timothy M Butterworth wrote: ... > Testing and Sid track pretty close to the latest kernel releases. Testing > currently has version 6.0.10. New kernel versions are first uploaded to Sid > then after about a week they are uploaded to testing. Testing, when not in > freeze, is more like a rolling

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 22:35:04 -0600 George Olson wrote: > I had enough of a functional > graphics environment and terminal to change all my sources to > Testing, which goes by the codename Bookworm, because to me that was > easier than trying to figure out how to use backports to install a >

Re: kernels in testing (was: Re: Debian failed)

2022-12-16 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:01 AM wrote: > On Thursday, December 15, 2022 11:35:04 PM George Olson wrote: > > I have an RX 6600 XT also. I use a 4 monitor setup and had to configure > > things so that it would work with 2 on top and 2 on the bottom. I can't > > remember exactly how I did it, but I

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-16 Thread hede
On 2022-12-15 08:36 hw wrote: It turned out that the AMD card is not even an option anymore because it's built so badly that not only the height but also the width exceeds the slot size. It's a few millimeters too wide and as a result, the fans won't spin and the card overheats. That doesn't

kernels in testing (was: Re: Debian failed)

2022-12-16 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 11:35:04 PM George Olson wrote: > I have an RX 6600 XT also. I use a 4 monitor setup and had to configure > things so that it would work with 2 on top and 2 on the bottom. I can't > remember exactly how I did it, but I first installed Bullseye and > figured out it

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-15 Thread George Olson
On 12/4/22 16:09, hw wrote: On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 15:00 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 03:52:31PM +0100, hw wrote: Hi, so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu module. I tried forcing

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 06:25:35AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > hw wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-12-10 at 23:05 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Sun 11 Dec 2022 at 04:39:02 (+0100), hw wrote: > > > > > > > > How can Debian be so old? > > > > > > Maturity takes a little ageing. > > > > Then Debian

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-15 Thread Dan Ritter
hw wrote: > On Sat, 2022-12-10 at 23:05 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 11 Dec 2022 at 04:39:02 (+0100), hw wrote: > > > > > > How can Debian be so old? > > > > Maturity takes a little ageing. > > Then Debian needs to figure out how to become sufficiently mature > without becoming

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 2:46 AM hw wrote: > On Sat, 2022-12-10 at 22:44 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > [...] > > Maybe you can try Debian Sid? > > What's sid? https://www.debian.org/releases/sid/ Jeff

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-14 Thread hw
On Sat, 2022-12-10 at 22:44 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:39 PM hw wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 18:42 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > ... > > > Yeah, a newer kernel is probably worth a try. The 5.8 kernel may work. > > > The 5.15 kernel will work based on my

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-14 Thread hw
On Sat, 2022-12-10 at 23:05 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 11 Dec 2022 at 04:39:02 (+0100), hw wrote: > > > > How can Debian be so old? > > Maturity takes a little ageing. Then Debian needs to figure out how to become sufficiently mature without becoming outdated. How is this working

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-14 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 11:55 +0100, hede wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 04:51:10 +0100 hw wrote: > > > And it works like 97% perfectly fine ... > > That's an oxymoron. > > > > > > Radeon RX 6000 series was released last year. I doubt it was possible to > > > use one of these with Red Hat

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-11 Thread hede
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 04:51:10 +0100 hw wrote: > And it works like 97% perfectly fine ... That's an oxymoron. > > > Radeon RX 6000 series was released last year. I doubt it was possible to > > use one of these with Red Hat Enterprise Linux ootb in the beginning of > > this year before RHEL 9

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 11 Dec 2022 at 04:39:02 (+0100), hw wrote: > > How can Debian be so old? Maturity takes a little ageing. Cheers, David.

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-10 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-12-05 at 16:20 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 05/12/2022 16:14, hede wrote: > > On 04.12.2022 23:09 hw wrote: > > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 15:00 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 03:52:31PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > How did you install - what

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-10 Thread hw
On Mon, 2022-12-05 at 09:14 +0100, hede wrote: > On 04.12.2022 23:09 hw wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 15:00 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 03:52:31PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > [...] > > > How did you install - what image, what steps? > > > >

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-10 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:39 PM hw wrote: > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 18:42 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > ... > > Yeah, a newer kernel is probably worth a try. The 5.8 kernel may work. > > The 5.15 kernel will work based on my experience. > > > > For completeness, here is the mini-pc I was having

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-10 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 18:42 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 5:30 PM hw wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 20:58 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 09:49:59PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 13:58 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > >

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-05 Thread Linux-Fan
hw writes: On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 09:06 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 04 Dec 2022 15:52:31 +0100 > hw wrote: > > > so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card > > and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu module. I tried > > forcing to load it when

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-05 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2022-12-05 at 16:20 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Perhaps, the original poster should install and use, Debian Experimental? > > It seems fitting... > > :) I know that wasn't a serious suggestion, but thought I would point out that 'unstable' (AKA 'sid') is the bleeding edge in-development

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-05 Thread Bret Busby
On 05/12/2022 16:14, hede wrote: On 04.12.2022 23:09 hw wrote: On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 15:00 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 03:52:31PM +0100, hw wrote: [...] How did you install - what image, what steps? debian-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso see below... On 04.12.2022

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-05 Thread hede
On 04.12.2022 23:09 hw wrote: On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 15:00 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 03:52:31PM +0100, hw wrote: [...] How did you install - what image, what steps? debian-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso see below... On 04.12.2022 21:49 hw wrote: > [...] > So I'm

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 5:30 PM hw wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 20:58 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 09:49:59PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 13:58 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 9:53 AM hw wrote: > > > > > > > > > > so

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 20:58 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 09:49:59PM +0100, hw wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 13:58 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 9:53 AM hw wrote: > > > > > > > > so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 09:06 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 04 Dec 2022 15:52:31 +0100 > hw wrote: > > > so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card > > and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu module. I tried > > forcing to load it when booting and

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 15:00 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 03:52:31PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card > > and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu module. I tried > > forcing to load

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 09:49:59PM +0100, hw wrote: > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 13:58 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 9:53 AM hw wrote: > > > > > > so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card > > > and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread hw
On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 13:58 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 9:53 AM hw wrote: > > > > so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card > > and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu module. I tried > > forcing to load it when booting and it

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 9:53 AM hw wrote: > > so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card > and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu module. I tried > forcing to load it when booting and it still didn't work. > > So I'm stuck with Fedora. What's wrong with

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 04 Dec 2022 15:52:31 +0100 hw wrote: > so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card > and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu module. I tried > forcing to load it when booting and it still didn't work. > > So I'm stuck with Fedora. What's wrong

Re: Debian failed

2022-12-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 03:52:31PM +0100, hw wrote: > > Hi, > > so I wanted to have Debian on a Precision R7910 with AMD graphics card > and it failed because it refuses to use the amdgpu module. I tried > forcing to load it when booting and it still didn't work. > > So I'm stuck with Fedora.