Re: Iceape/Seamonkey and Iceweasel/Firefox - was Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-18 Thread Alex
On a slightly (more) off-topic question - does any one know how fnord Ubuntu gets around the Mozilla Corp. restrictions with Firefox? I know that Ubuntu's Firefox install comes with an addon named Ubuntu Firefox Modifications - I assume they just use that for all their changes. IIRC the FF

Re: Iceape/Seamonkey and Iceweasel/Firefox - was Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 18/09/10 12:52, Bret Busby wrote: On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Scott Ferguson wrote: (a pyrrhic victory!) What? Rebirth from the ashes - Phoenix had complications so Firefox was chosen to symbolise the victorious rebirth of, um, - the spirit/ghost of Netscape(?). Supposedly the revenge

Iceape/Seamonkey and Iceweasel/Firefox - was Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-17 Thread Bret Busby
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Scott Ferguson wrote: I understood that some of the functionality (subroutines/modules/whatever) did not comply with the Debian philosophy, and so were removed, to make the resultant applications compliant with the

Re: Iceape/Seamonkey and Iceweasel/Firefox - was Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-17 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 17/09/10 16:40, Bret Busby wrote: snip read that... (scott) /snip Please note: in an effort to trim the message to which I am responding, I cut most of it out, apart from the stuff above, and the stuff above Mozilla Corp, above, was posted by me, and from there down, was posted by Scott

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-17 Thread Lisi
On Friday 17 September 2010 06:06:19 Marc Shapiro wrote: Am I glad that I get my Firefox and Thunderbird direct from Mozilla. The ability to save its session is one of the things I love about Firefox. I am running Lenny and use Iceweasel 3.0.6. Sessions get saved automagically. Lisi -- To

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-17 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 17/09/10 19:01, Lisi wrote: On Friday 17 September 2010 06:06:19 Marc Shapiro wrote: Am I glad that I get my Firefox and Thunderbird direct from Mozilla. The ability to save its session is one of the things I love about Firefox. I am running Lenny and use Iceweasel 3.0.6. Sessions get

Re: Iceape/Seamonkey and Iceweasel/Firefox - was Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 00:21, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote:  On 17/09/10 16:40, Bret Busby wrote: snip read that... (scott) /snip Please note: in an effort to trim the message to which I am responding, I cut most of it out, apart from the stuff above, and the stuff

Re: Iceape/Seamonkey and Iceweasel/Firefox - was Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-17 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 17/09/10 23:14, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 00:21, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: snip (Going from memory here - so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.) Once apon a time there was Netscape suite - which became Mozilla suite In spirit only.

Re: Iceape/Seamonkey and Iceweasel/Firefox - was Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-17 Thread Bret Busby
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Scott Ferguson wrote: (a pyrrhic victory!) What? Rebirth from the ashes - Phoenix had complications so Firefox was chosen to symbolise the victorious rebirth of, um, - the spirit/ghost of Netscape(?). Supposedly the revenge of Netscape on fnord Microsoft.

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Bret Busby wrote: I understood that some of the functionality (subroutines/modules/whatever) did not comply with the Debian philosophy, and so were removed, to make the resultant applications compliant with the Debian philosophy. It was a trademark issue. And a philosophy issue. See this

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-16 Thread Angus Hedger
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:13:00 -0600 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Bret Busby wrote: I understood that some of the functionality (subroutines/modules/whatever) did not comply with the Debian philosophy, and so were removed, to make the resultant applications compliant with the Debian

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-16 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 09/13/10 01:33, Merciadri Luca wrote: Klistvud wrote: Dne, 13. 09. 2010 09:49:17 je Merciadri Luca napisal(a): Is one obliged to simulate a crash to save its Iceweasel session? 'Simulate'? Isn't it supposed to crash, erm ... automagically? Well, I generally kill the iceweasel process to

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-15 Thread Bret Busby
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 19:52, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:57, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote: You say Moz (?) but, if you refer to Seamonkey, that is

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-15 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 16/09/10 13:11, Bret Busby wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 19:52, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:57, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote: You say Moz (?) but, if

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-14 Thread Bret Busby
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 04:32, Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote: Klistvud wrote: Dne, 13. 09. 2010 10:33:42 je Merciadri Luca napisal(a): You mean, ctrl-q doesn't work? It works! Nice! I did not know that there was this

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-14 Thread Bret Busby
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote: You say Moz (?) but, if you refer to Seamonkey, that is diifferent (from what I understand) to iceape, which has, from what I understand, some of the Mozilla stuff that makes Mozilla software what it is, removed. The only thing that should be

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-14 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 14 September 2010 16:48:46 Bret Busby wrote: Because the Debian people (I believe) omitted iceape and iceweasel from Debian 5, I had to search, and installed the previous release packages. Iceweasel is there: l...@tux:~$ cat /etc/debian_version 5.0.6 l...@tux:~$ aptitude show

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-14 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 05:05:11PM +0100, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 14 September 2010 16:48:46 Bret Busby wrote: Because the Debian people (I believe) omitted iceape and iceweasel from Debian 5, I had to search, and installed the previous release packages. Iceweasel is there: l...@tux:~$

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-14 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 19:52, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:57, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote: You say Moz (?) but, if you refer to Seamonkey, that is diifferent (from what I understand) to iceape, which

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-14 Thread Doug
On 09/14/2010 10:53 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 19:52, Kelly Clowerskelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: /snip/ If by some of the functionality was removed, you mean the standard Firefox and SeaMonkey Icons, then sure. That's about it AFAIK. Trouble with the icon licensing

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-14 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/14/2010 10:53 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 19:52, Kelly Clowerskelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: /snip/ If by some of the functionality was removed, you mean the standard Firefox and SeaMonkey Icons, then sure. That's about it AFAIK. Trouble with the icon

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-13 Thread Merciadri Luca
Bret Busby wrote: On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 23:45, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: Iceape can be convenient, especially beinfg a suite, so it is easy to click on a mailto link, and open up the integrated email composer. But, iceape appears to be

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-13 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 13. 09. 2010 09:49:17 je Merciadri Luca napisal(a): Is one obliged to simulate a crash to save its Iceweasel session? 'Simulate'? Isn't it supposed to crash, erm ... automagically? -- Regards, ;P Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Please reply

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-13 Thread Merciadri Luca
Klistvud wrote: Dne, 13. 09. 2010 09:49:17 je Merciadri Luca napisal(a): Is one obliged to simulate a crash to save its Iceweasel session? 'Simulate'? Isn't it supposed to crash, erm ... automagically? Well, I generally kill the iceweasel process to make it believe that it crashed. By this

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/09/10 18:33, Merciadri Luca wrote: Klistvud wrote: Dne, 13. 09. 2010 09:49:17 je Merciadri Luca napisal(a): Is one obliged to simulate a crash to save its Iceweasel session? 'Simulate'? Isn't it supposed to crash, erm ... automagically? Well, I generally kill the iceweasel process to

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-13 Thread Merciadri Luca
Paul Cartwright wrote: On Mon September 13 2010, Merciadri Luca wrote: Is one obliged to simulate a crash to save its Iceweasel session? That's generally what I do, but I find it very stupid. when I have multiple tabs open, and hit the big X to close iceweasel, it askes me if I

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-13 Thread Merciadri Luca
Scott Ferguson wrote: On 13/09/10 18:33, Merciadri Luca wrote: Klistvud wrote: Dne, 13. 09. 2010 09:49:17 je Merciadri Luca napisal(a): Is one obliged to simulate a crash to save its Iceweasel session? 'Simulate'? Isn't it supposed to crash, erm ...

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-13 Thread Merciadri Luca
Paul Cartwright wrote: On Mon September 13 2010, Merciadri Luca wrote: Simply because it does not ask me anymore if I want to save tabs or not. And that, most of the time, I want to close iceweasel without keeping my current tabs in memory. try in iceweasel: about:config

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-13 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 13. 09. 2010 10:33:42 je Merciadri Luca napisal(a): You mean, ctrl-q doesn't work? -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-13 Thread Merciadri Luca
Klistvud wrote: Dne, 13. 09. 2010 10:33:42 je Merciadri Luca napisal(a): You mean, ctrl-q doesn't work? It works! Nice! I did not know that there was this command! -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-13 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 22:54, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 23:45, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: Iceape can be convenient, especially beinfg a suite, so it is easy to click on a mailto link, and open up the integrated

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-13 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 04:32, Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote: Klistvud wrote: Dne, 13. 09. 2010 10:33:42 je Merciadri Luca napisal(a): You mean, ctrl-q doesn't work? It works! Nice! I did not know that there was this command! In theory, all Linux gui apps should

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-12 Thread Bret Busby
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 23:45, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: Iceape can be convenient, especially beinfg a suite, so it is easy to click on a mailto link, and open up the integrated email composer. But, iceape appears to be devoid of memory

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-11 Thread Stephen Fishpaste
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 09:16:26AM -0400, B. Alexander wrote: I'm just wondering, since firefox/iceweasel seems to be getting unusable. I have a 2.2GHz C2D box with an nvidia card at home, and a 3.0GHz C2D with a (lame) ATI card at work. I find that firefox (or xulrunner-stub) have memory

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-11 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 08:49, Jens Stimpfle jstimp...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: With 4GB I am never really memory constrained, and everything works fine with 100+ tabs open continuously for days. It's hard to

RE: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-10 Thread Mike Viau
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:43:35 +0200 ed3lt...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 09/07/2010 03:16 PM, schrob B. Alexander: This morning, after idling all weekend, iceweasel on my work system was chewing up between 70 and 100% of my cpus, and scrolling pages were hesitating for several seconds.

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Bret Busby
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, B. Alexander wrote: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:16:26 -0400 From: B. Alexander stor...@gmail.com To: Debian-user List debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Straw poll: What browser do you use? Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:16:42 + (UTC) Resent-From:

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Miles Bader
Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr writes: Epiphany is (marginally) better than Iceweasel/Firefox. Internet browsing on GNU/Linux, frankly, just plain sucks -- I mean, it sucks up all my CPU and all my RAM, permanently. It also makes my machine(s) heat up and my fans roar like a fully

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-09-09 11:48 +0200, Miles Bader wrote: chromium (6.0.472.53) has the very nice close a tab and get all its memory back feature which makes it useful on my relatively memory-constrained work machine. However it does tend to use more memory than iceweasel while actually performing

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/8/2010 2:00 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In4c872f30.4060...@allums.com, Mark Allums wrote: Chrome allows me to avoid using Windows IE for certain web sites that I visit regularly. No other Linux browser is capable of that, in my experience. Odd. I haven't had a MS Windows system

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 09. 09. 2010 11:48:24 je Miles Bader napisal(a): My god, what on earth are you browsing?! (or are you running an ancient version?) I'm on stock Lenny with stock IceWeasel 3.0.6. If it only happened on one machine, I'd think it was some misconfiguration on my part ... but it does

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Miles Bader
Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de writes: Iceweasel (3.6.9) tends to grab memory and keep it (closing tabs may free some memory, may not), but eventually reaches a stable point and seems to do OK with memory once it reaches that (it may have long term leaks, but I generally close my browser every

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 08 sep 10, 19:24:11, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: On 09/08/2010 06:04 PM, Celejar wrote: On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:25:44 -0400 Gilbert Sullivanwhirly...@comcast.net wrote: ... youtube.com watching dumb stuff I don't need to be watching. I used to just use youtube-dl, and that tended to

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread hugo vanwoerkom
Angus Hedger wrote: On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:58:19 +0200 Steven redalert.comman...@gmail.com wrote: snip While I was comparing browsers I did some quick and dirty benchmarking, results here [1] With swiftfox AMD64 (downloaded from there site today) showing as snip [1]

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Gilbert Sullivan
On 09/09/2010 12:29 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mi, 08 sep 10, 19:24:11, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: On 09/08/2010 06:04 PM, Celejar wrote: On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:25:44 -0400 Gilbert Sullivanwhirly...@comcast.net wrote: ... youtube.com watching dumb stuff I don't need to be watching. I used

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 05:56:41PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: I never said they would die. I only said that Microsoft is putting more effort into HTML5 for IE than Silverlight. It's evident by the lack of even Silverlight pages on Microsoft's own site, as well as partner sites. No,

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Javier Vasquez
On 9/7/10, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote: Running Sid on amd64. Me too, on both amd64 and i686... ... 3. Midori - webkit-based, crashes more than Kazehakase. ... I've been testing Midori for a while, and it doesn't crash on me. It has some limitations though: 1.- Java

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Bret Busby
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Bret Busby wrote: Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:45:25 +0800 (WST) From: Bret Busby b...@busby.net To: Debian-user List debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use? On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, B. Alexander wrote: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:16:26 -0400

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 23:45, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: Iceape can be convenient, especially beinfg a suite, so it is easy to click on a mailto link, and open up the integrated email composer. But, iceape appears to be devoid of memory management, and it appears to have a viral use for

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-09 Thread Thomas Amm
Am 09/07/2010 03:16 PM, schrob B. Alexander: This morning, after idling all weekend, iceweasel on my work system was chewing up between 70 and 100% of my cpus, and scrolling pages were hesitating for several seconds. So what do others use? Plain Vanilla flavour of Firefox. Simply

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Mark Allums
For those who dislike Chrome, how long has it been since you tried it? I tried it at version 1 (one) and removed it immediately. But they are up to version 6 (six) now. A lot of changes and improvements have been made. Chrome allows me to avoid using Windows IE for certain web sites that I

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4c872f30.4060...@allums.com, Mark Allums wrote: Chrome allows me to avoid using Windows IE for certain web sites that I visit regularly. No other Linux browser is capable of that, in my experience. Odd. I haven't had a MS Windows system available in my household for 6 years. While Konq used

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 08. 09. 2010 01:20:22 je Angus Hedger napisal(a): [1] http://clients.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/results.action?key=4I7n Great link, thanx! -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 08. 09. 2010 02:23:42 je Celejar napisal(a): browsing on GNU/Linux, frankly, just plain sucks -- I mean, it sucks up all my CPU and all my RAM, permanently. It also makes my machine(s) Permanently? I assume you mean that closing tabs / windows doesn't help? That's not usually my

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 08. 09. 2010 09:00:29 je Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napisal(a): I haven't had a MS Windows system available in my household for 6 years. It's only been about 2 years since I've got rid of the last dual-booting machine in our household. Now, I'd install debian even on our toaster if

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 08. 09. 2010 11:04:17 je Klistvud napisal(a): Someone should make branding stickers so we could stick proud 'Debian-ready' stickers over those gooey spots where 'Windows-ready' stickers used to be. Or, better, 'Debian at heart' instead of 'Intel inside'. But I'm geting off topic

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Michal
Odd. I haven't had a MS Windows system available in my household for 6 years. Not really that odd if you play a lot of the latest games on a high spec PC :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4c875d58.3050...@sharescope.co.uk, Michal wrote: Odd. I haven't had a MS Windows system available in my household for 6 years. Not really that odd if you play a lot of the latest games on a high spec PC :) Really? I was playing StarCraft II earlier tonight. Wine is quite adept at many

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread B. Alexander
I'm running 3.5.11 on sid. One of the problems that I have (and maybe one of my problems with performance) is that there are several extensions that I can't live without. I have a slew of them installed, but the main ones I use on a daily basis include: * AdBlock Plus * Readability * Secure

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 16:16, B. Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just wondering, since firefox/iceweasel seems to be getting unusable. I have a 2.2GHz C2D box with an nvidia card at home, and a 3.0GHz C2D with a (lame) ATI card at work. I find that firefox (or xulrunner-stub) have memory

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:08:14 +0200 Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: Hello Klistvud, Or, better, 'Debian at heart' instead of 'Intel inside'. But I'm geting off topic ... Not Debian at Heart, but look at;

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 04:15, B. Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm running 3.5.11 on sid. One of the problems that I have (and maybe one of my problems with performance) is that there are several extensions that I can't live without. I have a slew of them installed, but the main ones I

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread B. Alexander
I didn't figure that was a problem, but I thought I would mention it, both from a this may be your problem perspective, and (more importantly) a this is why I really don't want to part from firefox...especially the adblock plugin. I worked at a site where we had to use windows and IE, and I never

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Kent West
On 09/07/2010 10:03 PM, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:29:43 -0500 Kent Westwe...@acu.edu wrote: ... I just aptitude install'd links, and had no graphics mode. I googled a solution, and aptitude install'd links2 and ran links2 -g, which kicked it into graphics mode, but it was WAY

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Angus Hedger
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:02:25 +0200 Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: Dne, 08. 09. 2010 01:20:22 je Angus Hedger napisal(a): [1] http://clients.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/results.action?key=4I7n Great link, thanx! No problem, due to not having anything better todo, I did some

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:11:40 -0400 B. Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't figure that was a problem, but I thought I would mention it, both from a this may be your problem perspective, and (more importantly) a this is why I really don't want to part from firefox...especially the

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:30:33 +0200 Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: Dne, 08. 09. 2010 02:23:42 je Celejar napisal(a): browsing on GNU/Linux, frankly, just plain sucks -- I mean, it sucks up all my CPU and all my RAM, permanently. It also makes my machine(s) Permanently? I

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Kent West
On 09/08/2010 08:50 AM, Angus Hedger wrote: No problem, due to not having anything better todo, I did some comparisons of windows 7 vs Debian, see here [1] and [2], I ran everything I could get to finish the test and install. All tests where ran with clean profiles. [1]

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Michal
Really? I was playing StarCraft II earlier tonight. Wine is quite adept at many games now. I wouldn't consider myself a PC gamer, but I did build this system with 2x 7800 GTX, overclocked, in SLI mode back in 2005. I simply don't buy games that wine won't run, or I buy them for my Wii, XBoX

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:49:25 -0500 Kent West we...@acu.edu wrote: ... Here's the screenshot I saw at the http://links.twibright.com/features.php link: http://links.twibright.com/shots/shot1.png And here's what I see on my machine: http://goshen.acu.edu/westk/links_shot1.png This

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Thomas H. George
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 09:16:26AM -0400, B. Alexander wrote: I'm just wondering, since firefox/iceweasel seems to be getting unusable. I have a 2.2GHz C2D box with an nvidia card at home, and a 3.0GHz C2D with a (lame) ATI card at work. I find that firefox (or xulrunner-stub) have memory

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Alois Mahdal
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:16:26 +0200, B. Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: So what do others use? --b Opera 10. Oh, it seems that I'm only one that's using Opera as default on my Debian box. On Win, It's been my #1 for years and I'm so used that I simply can't abandon all that so-comfy-comfy

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Angus Hedger
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:12:56 -0500 Kent West we...@acu.edu wrote: On 09/08/2010 08:50 AM, Angus Hedger wrote: No problem, due to not having anything better todo, I did some comparisons of windows 7 vs Debian, see here [1] and [2], I ran everything I could get to finish the test and

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread hugo vanwoerkom
B. Alexander wrote: I'm just wondering, since firefox/iceweasel seems to be getting unusable. I have a 2.2GHz C2D box with an nvidia card at home, and a 3.0GHz C2D with a (lame) ATI card at work. I find that firefox (or xulrunner-stub) have memory leaks, and after a couple of days, it eats up

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Gilbert Sullivan
On 09/08/2010 02:17 PM, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: B. Alexander wrote: I'm just wondering, since firefox/iceweasel seems to be getting unusable. I have a 2.2GHz C2D box with an nvidia card at home, and a 3.0GHz C2D with a (lame) ATI card at work. I find that firefox (or xulrunner-stub) have memory

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Angus Hedger
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:06:05 -0400 Gilbert Sullivan whirly...@comcast.net wrote: I'll be looking at the the version 6 chromium-browser when it shows up in testing. (The version 5 browser was removed today.) I'm especially interested in seeing what they're doing for flash support. I understand

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Gilbert Sullivan
On 09/08/2010 03:50 PM, Angus Hedger wrote: On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:06:05 -0400 Gilbert Sullivanwhirly...@comcast.net wrote: I'll be looking at the the version 6 chromium-browser when it shows up in testing. (The version 5 browser was removed today.) I'm especially interested in seeing what

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-09-08 21:06 +0200, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: I'll be looking at the the version 6 chromium-browser when it shows up in testing. (The version 5 browser was removed today.) Could be a long time until this happens. Meanwhile, there is no real reason why you couldn't try the sid version.

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Angus Hedger
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:53:58 -0400 Gilbert Sullivan whirly...@comcast.net wrote: Ah! That makes more sense. I was kind of feeling dirty for a little bit there, wondering just who the GNU/Linux developers might be crawling into bed with! Chromium is all BSD, its google chrome that is a bit

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Mark Goldshtein
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:16 PM, B. Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just wondering, since firefox/iceweasel seems to be getting unusable. I have a 2.2GHz C2D box with an nvidia card at home, and a 3.0GHz C2D with a (lame) ATI card at work. I find that firefox (or xulrunner-stub) have

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Gilbert Sullivan
On 09/08/2010 04:55 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-09-08 21:06 +0200, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: I'll be looking at the the version 6 chromium-browser when it shows up in testing. (The version 5 browser was removed today.) Could be a long time until this happens. Meanwhile, there is no real

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Gilbert Sullivan
On 09/08/2010 05:07 PM, Angus Hedger wrote: On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:53:58 -0400 Gilbert Sullivanwhirly...@comcast.net wrote: Ah! That makes more sense. I was kind of feeling dirty for a little bit there, wondering just who the GNU/Linux developers might be crawling into bed with! Chromium is

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 9/8/2010 3:07 PM, Angus Hedger wrote: Flash might be one of the evils of the web, but it better than moonlight as most silverlight stuff wont work in moonlight 2.2 where as flash v10.1 works with pretty much everything (ignoring the total lack of a good 64bit plug-in and the instability of

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:25:44 -0400 Gilbert Sullivan whirly...@comcast.net wrote: ... youtube.com watching dumb stuff I don't need to be watching. I used to just use youtube-dl, and that tended to make me more choosy about what I would bother with. +1 for youtube-dl. I just grab whatever I

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Angus Hedger
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:54:07 -0600 Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: I was disappointed that Silverlight didn't take off. The reason being, the GNU/Linux community really doesn't have a solid Flash alternative. Yeah there's Gnash and others, but they don't play well with a lot of

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Gilbert Sullivan
On 09/08/2010 06:04 PM, Celejar wrote: On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:25:44 -0400 Gilbert Sullivanwhirly...@comcast.net wrote: ... youtube.com watching dumb stuff I don't need to be watching. I used to just use youtube-dl, and that tended to make me more choosy about what I would bother with. +1

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 9/8/2010 5:22 PM, Angus Hedger wrote: I highly doubt Silverlight, .Net, and thus by extension moonlight and mono will die, for example MS's new phone OS is pretty much all Silverlight and .Net I never said they would die. I only said that Microsoft is putting more effort into HTML5 for IE

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-08 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: AT Except with text-only browsers, you lose the ability to view images, AT video, and other interactive features that the web provides. well, not quite. i continue to use lynx as my primary browser, with zgv in my .mailcap svgalibs still

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-07 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/7/2010 8:16 AM, B. Alexander wrote: So what do others use? --b I'm very happy with Google Chrome. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-07 Thread Angus Hedger
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:35:15 -0500 Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote: On 9/7/2010 8:16 AM, B. Alexander wrote: So what do others use? --b I'm very happy with Google Chrome. +1 I use the version from the google repo $ aptitude show google-chrome-unstable Package:

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-07 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 07. 09. 2010 15:16:26 je B. Alexander napisal(a): (lame) ATI card at work. I find that firefox (or xulrunner-stub) have memory leaks, and after a couple of days, it eats up a significant amount (10-30%) of memory. The work box has 3GB and the home box has 4GB. It also eats up a

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
B. Alexander stor...@gmail.com writes: I'm just wondering, since firefox/iceweasel seems to be getting unusable. I have a 2.2GHz C2D box with an nvidia card at home, and a 3.0GHz C2D with a (lame) ATI card at work. I find that firefox (or xulrunner-stub) have memory leaks, and after a couple

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-07 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, B. Alexander wrote: I'm just wondering, since firefox/iceweasel seems to be getting unusable. I have a 2.2GHz C2D box with an nvidia card at home, and a 3.0GHz C2D with a (lame) ATI card at work. I find that firefox (or xulrunner-stub) have memory leaks, and after a couple

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-07 Thread B. Alexander
I tried chrome once, and really wasn't impressed with it. First of all, it didn't play nicely with my kde4 desktop, had its own fisher-price looking borders, etc. I also wonder how much of my browsing experience that google is caching and phoning home. I know I use gmail, though I have been

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-07 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Alexander: On Tuesday 07 September 2010 15:16:26 B. Alexander wrote: I'm just wondering, since firefox/iceweasel seems to be getting unusable. It's not unusable for me. I'm using Stable and my browser of preference is Konqueror with Iceweasel when the site doesn't work properly with

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-07 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 15:35:38 Jesús M. Navarro wrote: On Tuesday 07 September 2010 15:16:26 B. Alexander wrote: I'm just wondering, since firefox/iceweasel seems to be getting unusable. It's not unusable for me. I'm using Stable and my browser of preference is Konqueror with

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-07 Thread John Hasler
So what do others use? Iceweasel 3.5.9. Works fine. The instance I'm using now has been up for four days but I've had it up for weeks with no problems. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-07 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 03:47:00PM +0200, Klistvud wrote: Epiphany is (marginally) better than Iceweasel/Firefox. Internet browsing on GNU/Linux, frankly, just plain sucks -- I mean, it sucks up all my CPU and all my RAM, permanently. It also makes my machine(s) heat up and my fans roar like a

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-07 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 09:16:26AM -0400, B. Alexander wrote: I'm just wondering, since firefox/iceweasel seems to be getting unusable. What is unusable about Iceweasel? I have a 2.2GHz C2D box with an nvidia card at home, and a 3.0GHz C2D with a (lame) ATI card at work. I find that

Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?

2010-09-07 Thread Morgan Gangwere
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:24:23 -0400 B. Alexander xxx wrote: I tried chrome once, and really wasn't impressed with it. First of all, it didn't play nicely with my kde4 desktop, had its own fisher-price looking borders Those can be easily fixed if

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