Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andy Smith wrote: > [...] I argue that at present it > isn't a good idea to just reject all DKIM failures like OP's mailbox > provider appears to be doing. Just for the records: The mails in question don't get rejected but rather marked as spam and then get delivered. The currently best

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 02:16:07AM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > And some dkim seems setup with the intention that it should not be used > for mailinglusts: > > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; > d=dow.land; > s=20210720; >

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-07 Thread Tim Woodall
On Thu, 7 Mar 2024, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 09:44:51AM +0100, Hans wrote: > --- sninp --- > > Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu; spf=none > smtp.mailfrom=lists.debian.org > Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu; > dkim=fail

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-07 Thread John Crawley
On 07/03/2024 21:04, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 09:44:51AM +0100, Hans wrote: --- sninp --- Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=lists.debian.org Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu; dkim=fail

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 09:44:51AM +0100, Hans wrote: > --- sninp --- > > Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu; spf=none > smtp.mailfrom=lists.debian.org > Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu; > dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed"

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-07 Thread Byunghee HWANG
On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 09:44:51AM +0100, Hans wrote: > Hi all, > I believe, I found the reason, why mails are marked as spam and others not. > > All spam mails shjow this entry in the header: > > --- sninp --- > > Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu; spf=none >

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-07 Thread Hans
Hi all, I believe, I found the reason, why mails are marked as spam and others not. All spam mails shjow this entry in the header: --- sninp --- Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=lists.debian.org Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu;

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread debian-user
Hans wrote: > HI Brad, > > I do not believe, it is a training problem. Why? Well, your formerly > mail was marked as spam. So I marked it as ham. Now, your second mail > again is marked as spam. > > We know, there is nothing unusual with your mail, but it is again > marked as spam. Even, when

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 15:36:25 +0100 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >I do not believe, it is a training problem. Why? Well, your formerly >mail was marked as spam. So I marked it as ham. Now, your second mail >again is marked as spam. Spam/ham training is not, IME, a single shot affair. However, as

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Hans
HI Brad, I do not believe, it is a training problem. Why? Well, your formerly mail was marked as spam. So I marked it as ham. Now, your second mail again is marked as spam. We know, there is nothing unusual with your mail, but it is again marked as spam. Even, when I explicity marked your

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 13:53:49 +0100 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >It should be well trained Spam training is an ongoing process >But until then suddenly the false positives increased from one day to >another, although I had changed nothing. because the spam changes. What's coming now is

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Nicolas George
Hans (12024-03-06): > I am using this spamfilter now for several years. It should be well trained > and > almost until about 4 months I never had any problems with it. Hi. It is probably not the reason for you problem now, but it is important to note that in the “several years” since your spam

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Hans wrote: > Re: *SPAM* Re: Spam from the list? > In-Reply-To: <20240306112253.55e25...@earth.stargate.org.uk> referring the mail > > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 11:22:53 + > > From: Brad Rogers > > Message-ID: <20240306112253.55e25...@earth.stargate

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 01:53:49PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Hi Brad, > > I am using this spamfilter now for several years. It should be well trained > and > almost until about 4 months I never had any problems with it. > > But until then suddenly the false positives increased from one day to >

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Hans
Hi Brad, I am using this spamfilter now for several years. It should be well trained and almost until about 4 months I never had any problems with it. But until then suddenly the false positives increased from one day to another, although I had changed nothing. And weired: It happened only

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread debian-user
Hans wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > > you perhaps subscribed to one of the "Resent-*" lists ? > > > Not as far as I know. > > > > Subject: *SPAM* Bug#1065537: ITP: bleak-retry-connector -- > > > Connector for Bleak Clients that handles transient connection > > > failures > > > > The mark

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 11:19:27 +0100 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >Does one see any reason, why this is considered as spam??? Further to what Thomas says; You haven't told your spam filtering that it's ham. If you don't train your spam filters, it's never going to get any better at detecting what

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Hans wrote: > I changed nothing and suddenly many mails from debian-user > (but not all, only some) are recognized as spam. But the one you posted here did not come from debian-user. So maybe what changed is an inadverted subscription to one of debian-bugs-d...@lists.debian.org

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 6. März 2024, 12:10:57 CET schrieb Dan Ritter: > > > > X-Spam-Flag: YES > > > > X-SPAM-FACTOR: DKIM > > What sets these two headers? > I do not know. So I asked on this list. What I believe is, that the X-Spam-Flag: YES is set somehow on the way and as spamassin is looking at

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Hans
Hi Thomas, > you perhaps subscribed to one of the "Resent-*" lists ? > Not as far as I know. > > Subject: *SPAM* Bug#1065537: ITP: bleak-retry-connector -- > > Connector for Bleak Clients that handles transient connection failures > > The mark "*SPAM*" does not appear in the

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > during the last moonths I get more mails from the debian-user list marked as > spam than before. Something must have changed. > > I examined the header of the mails, but did not see any unusual. > > Below I send the header of an example of such a mail, maybe you

Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Hans wrote: > during the last moonths I get more mails from the debian-user list marked as > spam than before. > [...] > Below I send the header of an example of such a mail, maybe you can see the > reason? The message does not look like it came to you via debian-user: > X-Original-To:

Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Hans
Hi folks, during the last moonths I get more mails from the debian-user list marked as spam than before. Something must have changed. I examined the header of the mails, but did not see any unusual. Below I send the header of an example of such a mail, maybe you can see the reason? On my