Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 03 January 2019 15:39:51 Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > On 01/03/2019 03:31 PM, deloptes wrote: > > cat /etc/debian_version > > root@AbNormal:/home/comp# cat /etc/debian_version > 9.6 > root@AbNormal:/home/comp# df -hl > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > udev

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 03 January 2019 15:36:33 Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > On 01/03/2019 03:31 PM, Nicolas George wrote: > > Stephen P. Molnar (2019-01-03): > >> Thank you for your helpful comment. Unfortunately. I am an > >> Organioc Chemist, not an IT person. Therefore, I am only a user. > > > > Then ask

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread songbird
deloptes wrote: > Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > >> /dev/sda1        23G   23G     0 100% / > > bingo - the root of all evil yep. > you need to free up some space somewhere in / > > Perhaps you have some stuff in root home > > $ sudo du -hs /root > > If not - look where the place is gone? > >

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 12:37:36 -0500 "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: > On 01/03/2019 12:19 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 09:54:44 -0500 > > "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: > > > >> I am running Debian Stretch and have just encountered a problem during > >> a routine apt-get

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread deloptes
Nicolas George wrote: > You do realize that in most countries, a license is required to operate > motor vehicles and obtaining it requires acquiring a certain amount of > knowledge, right? Come on, the argument of Roberto C. Sánchez holds. Operator != Mechanic. To operate a PC means you know how

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Nicolas George
Roberto C. Sánchez (2019-01-03): > That would be like saying that someone who operates a motor vehicle > without also being a mechanic is doing so without acquiring the required > knowlege. You do realize that in most countries, a license is required to operate motor vehicles and obtaining it

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 10:27:30PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > > Then ask your sysadmin. > > > I have no sysadmin. > > Then you are not "only a user", you are a sysadmin, and you are trying > to be one without acquiring the required knowledge. I Have No Sysadmin And I Must Sudo

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 10:27:30PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Stephen P. Molnar (2019-01-03): > > > > Thank you for your helpful comment. Unfortunately. I am an Organioc > > > > Chemist, not an IT person. Therefore, I am only a user. > > > > Then ask your sysadmin. > > > I have no sysadmin.

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Nicolas George
Stephen P. Molnar (2019-01-03): > > > Thank you for your helpful comment. Unfortunately. I am an Organioc > > > Chemist, not an IT person. Therefore, I am only a user. > > Then ask your sysadmin. > I have no sysadmin. Then you are not "only a user", you are a sysadmin, and you are trying to be

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread deloptes
Nicolas George wrote: > Could you please read the mails you are answering to before spewing > unhelpful comments? Next time please explain ... not that I did not understand what you mean, but it sounds very personal. You could just point out, that it is not possible to install package when the

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread deloptes
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > /dev/sda1        23G   23G     0 100% / bingo - the root of all evil you need to free up some space somewhere in / Perhaps you have some stuff in root home $ sudo du -hs /root If not - look where the place is gone? regards

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 01/03/2019 03:31 PM, deloptes wrote: cat /etc/debian_version root@AbNormal:/home/comp# cat /etc/debian_version 9.6 root@AbNormal:/home/comp# df -hl Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /dev tmpfs 789M 18M 772M 3% /run

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 01/03/2019 03:31 PM, Nicolas George wrote: Stephen P. Molnar (2019-01-03): Thank you for your helpful comment. Unfortunately. I am an Organioc Chemist, not an IT person. Therefore, I am only a user. Then ask your sysadmin. Regards, I have no sysadmin. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread deloptes
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > root@AbNormal:/home/comp# touch /etc/ld.so.cache > root@AbNormal:/home/comp# /sbin/ldconfig > /sbin/ldconfig: Writing of cache data failed: No such file or directory Tell us which version you have $ cat /etc/debian_version 9.6 check and post here if

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Nicolas George
deloptes (2019-01-03): > You don't just copy executables here and there (unless instructed to do so) > You install via package manager Could you please read the mails you are answering to before spewing unhelpful comments? Thanks in advance. -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Nicolas George
Stephen P. Molnar (2019-01-03): > Thank you for your helpful comment. Unfortunately. I am an Organioc > Chemist, not an IT person. Therefore, I am only a user. Then ask your sysadmin. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread deloptes
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > strace is in /usr/bin on there.  I copied it to the host and ran it. > > comp@AbNormal:~$ sudo ./strace > [sudo] password for comp: > ./strace: must have PROG [ARGS] or -p PID > Try './strace -h' for more information. > > I'm totally at sea here, which switch should

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 01/03/2019 02:42 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 02:30:49PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ls -ld / /etc /etc/ld.* drwxr-xr-x 26 root root 4096 Dec 19 13:17 / drwxr-xr-x 134 root root 12288 Jan 3 09:43 /etc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 237114

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 01:58:10PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > Yes, but we don't. Type "df" without the quotes. Hell, even WITH the quotes it'll still work!

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread David Wright
On Thu 03 Jan 2019 at 14:38:09 (-0500), Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > On 01/03/2019 01:27 PM, songbird wrote: > > apt-get install libc --reinstall > > root@AbNormal:/home/comp# apt-get install libc --reinstall > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information...

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 02:42:50PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > When I run "strace /sbin/ldconfig" on my system, I see this line: > > rename("/etc/ld.so.cache~", "/etc/ld.so.cache") = 0 Oh, and there was also this stuff: stat("/var/cache/ldconfig", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=4096, ...}) =

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 02:30:49PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ls -ld / /etc /etc/ld.* > drwxr-xr-x 26 root root 4096 Dec 19 13:17 / > drwxr-xr-x 134 root root 12288 Jan 3 09:43 /etc > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 237114 Dec 26 14:47 /etc/ld.so.cache > -rw---

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 01/03/2019 02:10 PM, deloptes wrote: Stephen P. Molnar wrote: root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ldconfig ldconfig: Writing of cache data failed: No such file or directory Try touch /etc/ld.so.cache and repeat root@AbNormal:/home/comp# sbin/ldconfig -bash: sbin/ldconfig: No such file or

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 01/03/2019 01:27 PM, songbird wrote: apt-get install libc --reinstall root@AbNormal:/home/comp# apt-get install libc --reinstall Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package libc so far as I know, I am not out of

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 01/03/2019 12:53 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 12:49:48PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ldconfig ldconfig: Writing of cache data failed: No such file or directory You NEED to figure out why this is happening. Is the entire /etc directory

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread deloptes
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ldconfig > ldconfig: Writing of cache data failed: No such file or directory Try touch /etc/ld.so.cache and repeat > root@AbNormal:/home/comp# sbin/ldconfig > -bash: sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory > root@AbNormal:/home/comp# It

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread songbird
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Debian Stretch and have just encountered a problem during > a routine apt-get dist-upgrade. > > Specifically, it failed with the following error messages. > > E: libc-bin: subprocess installed post-installation script returned > error exit status 1 > >

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 12:49:48PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ldconfig > ldconfig: Writing of cache data failed: No such file or directory You NEED to figure out why this is happening. Is the entire /etc directory gone, or something? Show some basic initiative.

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Nicolas George
Stephen P. Molnar (2019-01-03): > root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ldconfig > ldconfig: Writing of cache data failed: No such file or directory At this point, I would suggest: strace ldconfig > root@AbNormal:/home/comp# sbin/ldconfig > -bash: sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory You should

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 01/03/2019 12:35 PM, deloptes wrote: deloptes wrote: man ldconfig -> cache default is /etc/ld.so.cache Was it altered and you forgot? Or is it someting wrong with the default cache file $ ls -al /etc/ld.so.cache -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 176004 Jan 1 21:56 /etc/ld.so.cache as root try

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 01/03/2019 12:19 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 09:54:44 -0500 "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: I am running Debian Stretch and have just encountered a problem during a routine apt-get dist-upgrade. Specifically, it failed with the following error messages. E: libc-bin:

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread deloptes
deloptes wrote: > man ldconfig -> cache default is /etc/ld.so.cache > > Was it altered and you forgot? Or is it someting wrong with the default > cache file > > $ ls -al /etc/ld.so.cache > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 176004 Jan  1 21:56 /etc/ld.so.cache as root try touch /etc/ld.so.cache run

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 01/03/2019 11:43 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:33:20 +0100 steve wrote: Hello steve, had the same problem. It seems su behaviour has changed recently. I It changed several months ago. I got notification 8 Aug 2018. As you go on to point out, 'su -' should permit OP to

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:33:20 +0100 steve wrote: Hello steve, >had the same problem. It seems su behaviour has changed recently. I It changed several months ago. I got notification 8 Aug 2018. As you go on to point out, 'su -' should permit OP to update without problem. -- Regards _

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 09:54:44 -0500 "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: > I am running Debian Stretch and have just encountered a problem during > a routine apt-get dist-upgrade. > > Specifically, it failed with the following error messages. > > E: libc-bin: subprocess installed post-installation

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 01/03/2019 11:29 AM, deloptes wrote: Stephen P. Molnar wrote: ldconfig: Writing of cache data failed: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing package libc-bin (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 man ldconfig -> cache default

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread steve
Hi Stephan, Perhaps have you become root with 'su' only. A couple of weeks ago, I had the same problem. It seems su behaviour has changed recently. I tried 'su -' to become root, and the error disappeared. I guess some reading of su changelog file might explain this. But too lazy for that.

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread deloptes
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > ldconfig: Writing of cache data failed: No such file or directory > dpkg: error processing package libc-bin (--configure): > subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 man ldconfig -> cache default is /etc/ld.so.cache Was it altered and

Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
rrors were encountered while processing: libc-bin E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) root@AbNormal:/home/comp# slightly different from my first message. Forwarded Message Subject: Upgrade Problem Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 09:54:44 -0500 From: Stephen

Upgrade Problem

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I am running Debian Stretch and have just encountered a problem during a routine apt-get dist-upgrade. Specifically, it failed with the following error messages. E: libc-bin: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Please advise. Thanks in advance. --

Re: apt-get upgrade problem on Jessie

2018-12-26 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* rhkra...@gmail.com [2018-12-25 09:21 -0500]: [...] > But now I'm at this point: > > root@s31:~# apt-get upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Calculating upgrade... Done > The following packages have been kept back: >

Re: apt-get upgrade problem on Jessie

2018-12-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 09:21:39 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > [snip] > > But now I'm at this point: > > root@s31:~# apt-get upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Calculating upgrade... Done > The following packages have been

Re: apt-get upgrade problem on Jessie

2018-12-25 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 09:21:39AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks for the reply, it helped a lot -- I seem to have one problem remaining > (below). [...] > df told me that /var was at 100%, and /boot was at 98%. "apt-get autoclean" or its more drastic sibling "apt-get clean" might

Re: apt-get upgrade problem on Jessie

2018-12-25 Thread rhkramer
Thanks for the reply, it helped a lot -- I seem to have one problem remaining (below). On Monday, December 24, 2018 06:22:58 PM Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > You need to > # apt install firmware-realtek Ok, I did the apt-get install firmware-realtek and that got rid of the complaints about the

Re: apt-get upgrade problem on Jessie

2018-12-24 Thread rhkramer
Thanks very much -- that helped a lot -- there is one outstanding problem, but, for various reasons, I don't have time for a full reply atm -- I'll try to reply more fully tomorrow or the day after. On Monday, December 24, 2018 06:22:58 PM Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * rh kramer [2018-12-24

Re: apt-get upgrade problem on Jessie

2018-12-24 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* rh kramer [2018-12-24 18:10 -0500]: > On my Jessie system, for something like the last 2 to 3 months, I've been > getting an error like the following whenever I do an apt-get update / > apt-get upgrade cycle. [...] > Ok, it looks like I have the r8169 as I see this: > > r8169

apt-get upgrade problem on Jessie

2018-12-24 Thread rh kramer
On my Jessie system, for something like the last 2 to 3 months, I've been getting an error like the following whenever I do an apt-get update / apt-get upgrade cycle. I've been ignoring it, hoping it would go away with some future update, but so far it hasn't. The (edited) error message is shown

Re: sid upgrade problem

2018-09-01 Thread Default User
On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 6:13 PM Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 02/09/2018 08:33, Default User wrote: > > Setting up libsane1:amd64 (1.0.27-1) ... > > Setting up sane-utils (1.0.27-1) ... > > Installing new version of config file /etc/user/saned ... > > Installing new version of config file

Re: sid upgrade problem

2018-09-01 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 02/09/2018 08:33, Default User wrote: Setting up libsane1:amd64 (1.0.27-1) ... Setting up sane-utils (1.0.27-1) ... Installing new version of config file /etc/user/saned ... Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/saned ... update-inetd: warning: cannot add service, /etc/inetd.conf

Re: sid upgrade problem

2018-09-01 Thread Default User
gt;> sane-backends 1.0.27-1 (the source package) was just uploaded and should > >> soon be available on sid: > >> > https://tracker.debian.org/news/984005/accepted-sane-backends-1027-1-source-into-unstable/ > >> This upload (supposedly) fixes #905913 and so should res

Re: sid upgrade problem

2018-08-31 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
ckends 1.0.27-1 (the source package) was just uploaded and should soon be available on sid: https://tracker.debian.org/news/984005/accepted-sane-backends-1027-1-source-into-unstable/ This upload (supposedly) fixes #905913 and so should resolve the upgrade problem. Hi, Ben. Thanks for the h

Re: sid upgrade problem

2018-08-31 Thread Default User
ight? > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=905913 > > sane-backends 1.0.27-1 (the source package) was just uploaded and should > soon be available on sid: > > https://tracker.debian.org/news/984005/accepted-sane-backends-1027-1-source-into-unstable/ > &

Re: sid upgrade problem

2018-08-31 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
n sid: https://tracker.debian.org/news/984005/accepted-sane-backends-1027-1-source-into-unstable/ This upload (supposedly) fixes #905913 and so should resolve the upgrade problem. Kind regards, -- Ben Caradoc-Davies Director Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/> New Zealand

Re: sid upgrade problem

2018-08-29 Thread Default User
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 15:19 Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 30/08/2018 03:46, Default User wrote: > > Running sid (Debian Unstable). > > For several weeks, one particular update seems to be stalled. All other > > updates work as normal: > > user@domain:~$ sudo aptitude -Pvv full-upgrade > >

Re: sid upgrade problem

2018-08-29 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 30/08/2018 03:46, Default User wrote: Running sid (Debian Unstable). For several weeks, one particular update seems to be stalled. All other updates work as normal: user@domain:~$ sudo aptitude -Pvv full-upgrade [sudo] password for default: The following NEW packages will be installed:

sid upgrade problem

2018-08-29 Thread Default User
Running sid (Debian Unstable). For several weeks, one particular update seems to be stalled. All other updates work as normal: user@domain:~$ sudo aptitude -Pvv full-upgrade [sudo] password for default: The following NEW packages will be installed: libsane1{ab} The following packages will be

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-22 Thread Fungi4All
> From: a...@cityscape.co.uk > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 18:21:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 17:39 (UTC-0400): >> > > 27 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. >> > Need to get 68.5 MB of archives.> After this

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-21 Thread David Wright
On Fri 21 Jul 2017 at 00:43:08 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Joe Pfeiffer composed on 2017-07-20 15:38 (UTC-0600): > > > David Wright wrote: > > >> On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > > >>> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? > > >> I did. Where

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 08:48:17 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 20-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:48:17 +0200 Dejan Jocic > > wrote: > > > > > > > > If you have minimal install, why do you suspect that something is > > > wrong, rather

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-21 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 20-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:48:17 +0200 Dejan Jocic > wrote: > > > > > If you have minimal install, why do you suspect that something is > > wrong, rather to suppose that all is fine and that simply there was > > no security updates for your

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 05:55:15 + (UTC) david...@freevolt.org wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I > > find this unusual. > > And so,

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:48:17 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson > > wrote: > > > > > On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Felix Miata
Joe Pfeiffer composed on 2017-07-20 15:38 (UTC-0600): > David Wright wrote: >> On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >>> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? >> I did. Where does it say that? > The closest thing to that statement I've encountered is

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:41:33 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/19/2017 07:05 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson > > wrote: > > > >> On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>> On Wed, 19

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
David Wright writes: > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >> Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): >> >> > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, >> > etc., but get no security or

Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?]

2017-07-20 Thread Fungi4All
> Op 20-07-17 om 18:58 schreef Fungi4All: >> Does it matter what we all think, even if agree or it matters what >> the manual of the package says. In my installation this is manual >> I found, it says apt all over the place, meanwhile there is apt-get >> package to install.

Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?]

2017-07-20 Thread Frank
Op 20-07-17 om 18:58 schreef Fungi4All: Does it matter what we all think, even if agree or it matters what the manual of the package says. In my installation this is manual I found, it says apt all over the place, meanwhile there is apt-get package to install. /usr/share/man/man8/apt-get.8.gz

Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?]

2017-07-20 Thread Fungi4All
> From: deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Agreed. I was beginning to despair of this list while reading through > this thread. But we seem to live in times when evidence matters less > and less, and assertion more and more. > Sorry about the politics. Anyway, AFAICT

Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?]

2017-07-20 Thread David Wright
On Thu 20 Jul 2017 at 21:21:08 (+1000), Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 20.07.17 03:27, Felix Miata wrote: > > David Wright composed on 2017-07-19 23:33 (UTC-0500): > > > > > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > > > > >> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to

Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?]

2017-07-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 20.07.17 03:27, Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2017-07-19 23:33 (UTC-0500): > > > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? > > > I did. Where does it say that? > > It was a long time ago that I

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2017-07-19 23:33 (UTC-0500): > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? > I did. Where does it say that? It was a long time ago that I first encountered it, and don't remember where it was.

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson > wrote: > > > On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On 19-07-17, Patrick

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread davidson
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, Patrick Bartek wrote: Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find this unusual. And so, understandably, you feel prompted to seek confirmation that there have, in fact, been no

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread David Wright
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): > > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, > > etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find > > this unusual. Did a mail

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 07/19/2017 07:05 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote:

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 17:13:06 -0400 Fungi4All wrote: > From: nemomm...@gmail.com > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:32:04 -0400 Dan Ritter > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:29:02AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> > Getting no results from

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic > > wrote: > > > >> On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>> Getting no results from apt-get

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 18:21:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 17:39 (UTC-0400): > > >> Brian composed: > >> One picture is worth a thousand words: > ... > > Here is a picture from my backup machine > > $ sudo apt upgrade > ... > > 27 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 17:39 (UTC-0400): >> Brian composed: >> One picture is worth a thousand words: ... > Here is a picture from my backup machine > $ sudo apt upgrade ... > 27 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. > Need to get 68.5 MB of archives.> After this

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Fungi4All
> From: a...@cityscape.co.uk > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > One picture is worth a thousand words: Here is a picture from my backup machine $ sudo apt upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Fungi4All
> From: a...@cityscape.co.uk > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 16:20:21 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > One picture is worth a thousand words: > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n > Which should be trusted more. apt-get or apt? I've always liked apt. It is four keystrokes shorter

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Fungi4All
From: nemomm...@gmail.com > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:32:04 -0400 Dan Ritter > wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:29:02AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install >> > apps, etc., but get no security or

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 16:20:21 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2017-07-19 20:54 (UTC+0100): > > > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 15:49:47 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 15:18 (UTC-0400): > > >> > But will there be different results with apt upgrade than

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:57:50 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: > Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): > > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I > > find this

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:32:04 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:29:02AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I > > find

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I > > find this unusual. Did a mail list

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:54:28 +0100 Brian wrote: Hello Brian, >Those sort of statements are begging for an example of the diferences >with an upgrade or package installation. Will we see it? I seem to recall there have been several examples over the past year or so on

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
Brian composed on 2017-07-19 20:54 (UTC+0100): > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 15:49:47 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 15:18 (UTC-0400): >> > But will there be different results with apt upgrade than with apt-get? >> Will:I have no idea. >> Can: Yes. >> Apt and

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Fungi4All
> From: mrma...@earthlink.net > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 15:18 (UTC-0400): >>> mrma...@earthlink.net composed: > ... >>> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? >> But will there be different results with apt upgrade than with apt-get? >

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 15:49:47 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 15:18 (UTC-0400): > > >> mrma...@earthlink.net composed: > ... > >> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? > > > But will there be different results with apt upgrade than with apt-get?

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 15:18 (UTC-0400): >> mrma...@earthlink.net composed: ... >> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? > But will there be different results with apt upgrade than with apt-get? Will: I have no idea. Can:Yes. Apt and apt-get are not

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 15:18:20 -0400, Fungi4All wrote: > > From: mrma...@earthlink.net > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): > >> Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, > >> etc., but get no security or

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Fungi4All
> From: mrma...@earthlink.net > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): >> Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, >> etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find >> this unusual. Did a mail list

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 19-07-17, Felix Miata wrote: > Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): > > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, > > etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find > > this unusual. Did a mail list archive search for

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, > etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find > this unusual. Did a mail list archive search for this, but didn't find > anything specific. Or

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:29:02AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, > etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find > this unusual. Did a mail list archive search for this, but didn't find > anything

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, > etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find > this unusual. Did a mail list archive search for this, but didn't find > anything specific. Or did I miss the

Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find this unusual. Did a mail list archive search for this, but didn't find anything specific. Or did I miss the solution? My Test Setup: Stretch Stable 64-bit

Re: apt-get upgrade problem

2017-06-26 Thread Curt
On 2017-06-26, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 09:01:30AM +, Curt wrote: >> Because of the pedagogical interest of the thing, for those who come >> after us, for posterity's sake, I wanted the OP to give us a complete >> description of what occurred, rather

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