Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-19 Thread Thomas Savary
mercredi 18 juillet 2018, à 11:11:28 CEST, Pierre Chevalier a écrit : > > N’étant pas matheux, > > Désolé. Ça peut s'arranger: il y a des formations pour ça, rien n'est > jamais désespéré. Encore faut-il en avoir le temps, et surtout l’envie. Je préfère me consacrer à la musique et à la

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-18 Thread Pierre Chevalier
Bien le bonjour, Le 12/07/2018 à 07:32, Thomas Savary a écrit avec force amusement: Un autre moyen, c’est tout simplement d’éditer la disposition de clavier utilisée (/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/fr). Oh, merveilleuse ressource que voilà! Je sens que je vais traficougnasser ce bidule en tous

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-13 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 12/07/2018 à 07:32, Thomas Savary a écrit : Un autre moyen, c’est tout simplement d’éditer la disposition de clavier utilisée (/usr/share/ X11/xkb/symbols/fr). N’étant pas matheux, j’ai remplacé le point de la multiplication (U +22C5) de la disposition « Français (variante, touches mortes

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-12 Thread Eric Degenetais
Le 12 juillet 2018 à 17:55, Ph. Gras a écrit : > Hello there! > > un peu en avance ;-) > > > À part ça, l’écriture inclusive est une très, très mauvaise idée et > faussement inclusive, parce que même ses défenseurs sont généralement > incapables de l’adopter de façon cohérente et systématique,

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-12 Thread Ph. Gras
Hello there! un peu en avance ;-) > À part ça, l’écriture inclusive est une très, très mauvaise idée et > faussement inclusive, parce que même ses défenseurs sont généralement > incapables de l’adopter de façon cohérente et systématique, ce qui est > normal, parce que la langue française ne

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-12 Thread Thomas Savary
> > À: "Charles Plessy" > > Cc: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > > Envoyé: Jeudi 12 Juillet 2018 00:41:19 > > Objet: Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive > > > > > > > > - Mail original - > > > > > De: &qu

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-12 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2018-07-12 08:16 +0200, Daniel Caillibaud wrote: > Le 12/07/18 à 00:41, Bernard Schoenacker a > écrit : > > je suis de "très mauvais poil" parce que je n'y arrive > > pas, j'ai reconfiguré mon clavier en latin 9 sans > > touches mortes et je n'obtiens pas le résultat escompté > > En latin9

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-12 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
- Mail original - > De: "Guillaume Clercin" > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > Envoyé: Jeudi 12 Juillet 2018 09:38:49 > Objet: Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive > > Le mercredi 11 juillet 2018, 16:47:24 CEST Guillaume Clercin a écrit

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-12 Thread Sébastien Dinot
- Mail original - > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_m%C3%A9dian#Saisie_au_clavier Merci pour l'info, « AltGr Shift ; », c'est plus simple, plus immédiat et surtout, ce n'est nullement spécifique à un éditeur ! Sébastien -- Sébastien Dinot, sebastien.di...@free.fr

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-12 Thread Guillaume Clercin
Le mercredi 11 juillet 2018, 16:47:24 CEST Guillaume Clercin a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Le mercredi 11 juillet 2018, 16:32:49 CEST Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > > bonjour, > > > > je recherche un moyen de pouvoir insérer un point milieu > > > > or pour pour l’unicode le point milieu est U+00B7

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-12 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 12/07/18 à 00:41, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > je suis de "très mauvais poil" parce que je n'y arrive > pas, j'ai reconfiguré mon clavier en latin 9 sans > touches mortes et je n'obtiens pas le résultat escompté En latin9 je sais pas, mais tu dois avoir une combinaison de touches qui fait

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-11 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
- Mail original - > De: "Bernard Schoenacker" > À: "Charles Plessy" > Cc: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > Envoyé: Jeudi 12 Juillet 2018 00:41:19 > Objet: Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive > > > > - Mail original ---

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-11 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
- Mail original - > De: "Charles Plessy" > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > Envoyé: Jeudi 12 Juillet 2018 00:06:15 > Objet: Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive > > Le Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 04:32:49PM +0200, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit >

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 04:32:49PM +0200, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > je recherche un moyen de pouvoir insérer un point milieu > > or pour pour l’unicode le point milieu est U+00B7 > > comment faire avec : > > -a) vim > -b) emacs > -c) autre Bonjour Bernard, et à tous et à toutes,

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-11 Thread Sébastien Dinot
- Mail original - > Au passage, la commande « Ctrl-x 8 Ctrl-h » affiche la liste des > caractères insérables à partir de la commande « Ctrl-x 8 » et les > séquences associées. Et de manière plus générale : Ctrl-x 8 Enter Enter Donc, ici : Ctrl-x 8 Enter 00B7 Enter Sébastien --

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-11 Thread Sébastien Dinot
- Mail original - > je recherche un moyen de pouvoir insérer un point milieu > or pour pour l’unicode le point milieu est U+00B7 > > comment faire avec : > > -a) vim > -b) emacs Avec Emacs, c'est presque évident ;) : « Ctrl-x 8 * . » Et « Ctrl-x 8 * * » pour un « gros point médian

Re: sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-11 Thread Guillaume Clercin
Bonjour, Le mercredi 11 juillet 2018, 16:32:49 CEST Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > bonjour, > > je recherche un moyen de pouvoir insérer un point milieu > > or pour pour l’unicode le point milieu est U+00B7 > > comment faire avec : > > -a) vim Dans le mode insertion, il faut entrer la

sensible-editor et écriture inclusive

2018-07-11 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
bonjour, je recherche un moyen de pouvoir insérer un point milieu or pour pour l’unicode le point milieu est U+00B7 comment faire avec : -a) vim -b) emacs -c) autre merci pour le coup de pouce slt bernard

Re: sensible-utils

2018-07-08 Thread Haricophile
Le Sun, 8 Jul 2018 16:26:38 +0200 (CEST), Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > bonjour, > > j'ai un petit problème sur un ordi en sid ... > > la commande sensible-editor ne répond plus alors > que la commande editor répond normalement ... > > comment faire pour corriger l

Re: sensible-utils

2018-07-08 Thread jean-pierre giraud
Le 08/07/2018 à 17:23, jean-pierre giraud a écrit : > Bonjour, > Le 08/07/2018 à 16:26, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : >> bonjour, >> >> j'ai un petit problème sur un ordi en sid ... >> >> la commande sensible-editor ne répond plus alors >>

Re: sensible-utils

2018-07-08 Thread jean-pierre giraud
Bonjour, Le 08/07/2018 à 16:26, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > bonjour, > > j'ai un petit problème sur un ordi en sid ... > > la commande sensible-editor ne répond plus alors > que la commande editor répond normalement ... > > comment faire pour corriger le tir ? &g

sensible-utils

2018-07-08 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
bonjour, j'ai un petit problème sur un ordi en sid ... la commande sensible-editor ne répond plus alors que la commande editor répond normalement ... comment faire pour corriger le tir ? merci slt bernard

What's the difference between sensible-utils and native debian Alternatives?

2015-06-27 Thread Jayson Willson
Hello. Could you please tell me, what is the difference between, for example, /usr/bin/editor (which will be a symling to an editor chosen with update-alternatives --config editor) and /usr/bin/sensible-editor? What about pager and sensible-pager? I do not get the practical difference. Thank you.

Re: What's the difference between sensible-utils and native debian Alternatives?

2015-06-27 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-06-27 at 16:58 +0300, Jayson Willson wrote: Hello. Could you please tell me, what is the difference between, for example, /usr/bin/editor (which will be a symling to an editor chosen with update-alternatives --config editor) and /usr/bin/sensible-editor? What about pager

Re: What's the difference between sensible-utils and native debian Alternatives?

2015-06-27 Thread Brian
editor) and /usr/bin/sensible-editor? What about pager and sensible-pager? I do not get the practical difference. Thank you. That's a good question! :) From simply skimming through the scripts, it seems to mostly be an easy way to set preferred applications through environment

Re: is this sensible?

2014-07-20 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-07-08 02:07:25 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 30 iun 14, 14:47:23, Vincent Lefevre wrote: A program cannot guess what the user has in mind, but there are choices that are obviously more sensible than others, such as upgrading a package instead of removing it. Sometimes aptitude

Re: is this sensible?

2014-07-08 Thread berenger . morel
Le 08.07.2014 01:12, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Lu, 30 iun 14, 12:35:37, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: One of the first things I do when using aptitude on a new computer is disabling the auto-repair feature What feature would that be? The name is not the correct one, because I

Re: is this sensible?

2014-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 30 iun 14, 14:47:23, Vincent Lefevre wrote: A program cannot guess what the user has in mind, but there are choices that are obviously more sensible than others, such as upgrading a package instead of removing it. Sometimes aptitude wants to remove hundreds of packages, which

Re: is this sensible?

2014-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 30 iun 14, 12:35:37, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: One of the first things I do when using aptitude on a new computer is disabling the auto-repair feature What feature would that be? and automatic installation of recommended packages. I do this only on really space

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread berenger . morel
Le 29.06.2014 00:25, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : On 2014-06-25 14:26:03 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non interactive tool, you do not have real control on it. I have learn a lot of things because I used

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 03:49:36 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2014-06-29 12:52:40 +0200, François Patte wrote: Le 29/06/2014 12:35, Brian a écrit : If that is what you really want to do you are not going about it in the right way.

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 03:33:40 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: What matters is also the list of NEW packages. Your mail was saying: The following NEW packages will be installed: gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 geoclue-2.0 libabw-0.0-0 libaudit-common libaudit1 libboost-date-time1.55.0

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
since I do behave differently regarding computer choices than most people. A program cannot guess what the user has in mind, but there are choices that are obviously more sensible than others, such as upgrading a package instead of removing it. Sometimes aptitude wants to remove hundreds of packages

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-30 13:15:36 +0100, Brian wrote: On Mon 30 Jun 2014 at 03:33:40 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: What matters is also the list of NEW packages. Your mail was saying: The following NEW packages will be installed: gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 geoclue-2.0 libabw-0.0-0

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-29 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 29/06/2014 00:15, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : On 2014-06-27 11:38:50 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:07:40PM +0200, François Patte wrote: This what is writen as dependencies in packages... OK but I am wondering why gthumb

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-29 Thread Brian
On Sun 29 Jun 2014 at 10:35:50 +0200, François Patte wrote: BTW I tried to prevent to install systemd, putting #Package: systemd #Pin: release * #Pin-Priority: -1 in /etc/apt/preferences and tried to install gthumb after that. The answer came immediately: impossible because of broken

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-29 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 29/06/2014 12:35, Brian a écrit : On Sun 29 Jun 2014 at 10:35:50 +0200, François Patte wrote: BTW I tried to prevent to install systemd, putting #Package: systemd #Pin: release * #Pin-Priority: -1 in /etc/apt/preferences and tried to

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-29 10:35:50 +0200, François Patte wrote: Looking back to my first mail, I can read: The following extra packages will be installed: ^^^ gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 geoclue-2.0 gir1.2-pango-1.0 gthumb-data libabw-0.0-0

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-29 12:52:40 +0200, François Patte wrote: Le 29/06/2014 12:35, Brian a écrit : If that is what you really want to do you are not going about it in the right way. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/05/msg01042.html Not sure of what you mean here... Not sure either

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-27 11:38:50 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:07:40PM +0200, François Patte wrote: This what is writen as dependencies in packages... OK but I am wondering why gthumb (and its dependencies) needs to install systemd That sounds like a challenge :) gthumb

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-25 14:26:03 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non interactive tool, you do not have real control on it. I have learn a lot of things because I used aptitude with it's ncurses interface. It features

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-27 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 14:11, Floris a écrit : Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:06:25 +0200 schreef Floris jkflo...@dds.nl: Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:51:17 +0200 schreef François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash:

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:07:40PM +0200, François Patte wrote: Le 25/06/2014 14:11, Floris a écrit : Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:06:25 +0200 schreef Floris jkflo...@dds.nl: Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:51:17 +0200 schreef François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: -BEGIN PGP

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-27 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.06.2014 03:06, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 02:17:47PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 26.06.2014 12:26, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 02:26:03PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 02:26:03PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non interactive tool, you do not have real control on it. If it is non interactive, then how do you master it? -- If you're not careful,

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-26 Thread berenger . morel
Le 26.06.2014 12:26, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 02:26:03PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non interactive tool, you do not have real control on it. If it is non interactive, then

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 02:17:47PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 26.06.2014 12:26, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 02:26:03PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non

is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: apt-get install gthumb Here is the answer: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote: I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: apt-get install gthumb If you just want to update, why are you installing? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote: I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: apt-get install gthumb If you just want to

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Weaver
On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote: I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:57:04 François Patte wrote: Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote: I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: apt-get install gthumb If you

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit : On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote: I

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Rob
On 25 June 2014 10:51:17 BST, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit : On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:32:22AM +0200, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: What do yo mean by ...became ugly for an unknown reason...), how do you

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Floris
Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:51:17 +0200 schreef François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit : On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Floris
Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:06:25 +0200 schreef Floris jkflo...@dds.nl: Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:51:17 +0200 schreef François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit : On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:51:17AM +0200, François Patte wrote: The problem is: why do I have to install, for instance, gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 (I don't want to compile anything...) These packages contain 'files common to all languages and libraries contained in the GNU

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread berenger . morel
Le 25.06.2014 11:51, François Patte a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit : On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 25

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 13:25, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:32:22AM +0200, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 13:25, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:32:22AM +0200, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 June 2014 13:42:39 François Patte wrote: Bonjour, I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: What do yo mean by ...became ugly for an unknown reason...), how do you know it is the gthumb package causing it? here

sensible-browser et iceweasel

2013-10-28 Thread C. Mourad Jaber
Bonjour, Je rencontre un comportement curieux de iceweasel : - Quand je le lance via l'icone du menu, tout se passe bien, - par contre si je le lance via la commande sensible-browser (directement ou bien via icedove par un lien dans un mail), j'ai des bugs graphique qui apparaissent (la barre

Re: Donde y como recomiendan almacenar información sensible (claves de seguridad)

2012-10-26 Thread ElRobe
El 25/10/12 14:39, adriancito escribió: Grupo, aquí les escribo con un tema harto tratado pero que nunca he definido aún. Quisiera llevar almacenada en algún dispositivo información compleja y sensible como datos de infraestructura, claves, y demas. Que recomiendan? 1) Pendrive encriptado? 2

Re: Donde y como recomiendan almacenar información sensible (claves de seguridad)

2012-10-26 Thread Francisco J. Bejarano
escribo con un tema harto tratado pero que nunca he definido aún. Quisiera llevar almacenada en algún dispositivo información compleja y sensible como datos de infraestructura, claves, y demas. Que recomiendan? 1) Pendrive encriptado? 2) Algún sitio que se dedique a esto? 3) Cuenta de

Donde y como recomiendan almacenar información sensible (claves de seguridad)

2012-10-25 Thread adriancito
Grupo, aquí les escribo con un tema harto tratado pero que nunca he definido aún. Quisiera llevar almacenada en algún dispositivo información compleja y sensible como datos de infraestructura, claves, y demas. Que recomiendan? 1) Pendrive encriptado? 2) Algún sitio que se dedique a esto? 3

Re: Donde y como recomiendan almacenar información sensible (claves de seguridad)

2012-10-25 Thread Cayetano Lupenna [NR]
Hola, El 25/10/12 14:39, adriancito escribió: Grupo, aquí les escribo con un tema harto tratado pero que nunca he definido aún. Suelo utilizar un fichero contenedor creado con http://www.truecrypt.org/ Razonablemente seguro, Saludos -- Cayetano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Donde y como recomiendan almacenar información sensible (claves de seguridad)

2012-10-25 Thread Cayetano Lupenna [NR]
Hola, El 25/10/12 14:39, adriancito escribió: Grupo, aquí les escribo con un tema harto tratado pero que nunca he definido aún. Suelo utilizar un fichero contenedor creado con http://www.truecrypt.org/ Razonablemente seguro, Saludos -- Cayetano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Donde y como recomiendan almacenar información sensible (claves de seguridad)

2012-10-25 Thread Evgeny M. Zubok
adriancito adrianfran...@gmail.com writes: Grupo, aquí les escribo con un tema harto tratado pero que nunca he definido aún. Quisiera llevar almacenada en algún dispositivo información compleja y sensible como datos de infraestructura, claves, y demas. Que recomiendan? 1) Pendrive

Re: Donde y como recomiendan almacenar información sensible (claves de seguridad)

2012-10-25 Thread adolfo maltez
evgeny.zu...@tochka.ruescribió: adriancito adrianfran...@gmail.com writes: Grupo, aquí les escribo con un tema harto tratado pero que nunca he definido aún. Quisiera llevar almacenada en algún dispositivo información compleja y sensible como datos de infraestructura, claves, y demas

Re: Donde y como recomiendan almacenar información sensible (claves de seguridad)

2012-10-25 Thread Debian GMail
El 25/10/12 09:39, adriancito escribió: Grupo, aquí les escribo con un tema harto tratado pero que nunca he definido aún. Quisiera llevar almacenada en algún dispositivo información compleja y sensible como datos de infraestructura, claves, y demas. Que recomiendan? 1) Pendrive encriptado? 2

Re: Donde y como recomiendan almacenar información sensible (claves de seguridad)

2012-10-25 Thread Adrià
El 25/10/2012 19:58, adolfo maltez adolfomal...@gmail.com va escriure: Borro el fichero.txt y me quedo con el fichero.txt.gpg Espero que lo hagas con wipe y no con un rm tradicional, ya puestos a hablar de seguridad :-) Y ya de paso, estaría bien comprobar la integridad del gpg resultante

Re: Donde y como recomiendan almacenar información sensible (claves de seguridad)

2012-10-25 Thread Carlos Zuniga
2012/10/25 Debian GMail javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com: El 25/10/12 09:39, adriancito escribió: Grupo, aquí les escribo con un tema harto tratado pero que nunca he definido aún. Quisiera llevar almacenada en algún dispositivo información compleja y sensible como datos de infraestructura

Re: Donde y como recomiendan almacenar información sensible (claves de seguridad)

2012-10-25 Thread Evgeny M. Zubok
Carlos Zuniga carlos@gmail.com writes: http://xkcd.com/538/ Aquí en Rusia ese método se llama en broma criptoanálisis termorectal que se realiza con la ayuda del soldador eléctrico. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-28 Thread Robert Holtzman
the command line would of course show all of my shell variables including those that were set from the .bashrc file. But running it from GNOME itself through the launcher would not. Creating the test script seems a little less crass than adding similar env dump modifications to /usr/bin/sensible

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-27 Thread Robert Holtzman
to GNOME. I have this in my .bashrc and they work with no problem: NNTPSERVER='news.sonic.net' export NNTPSERVER BROWSER=firefox/firefox export BROWSER Therefore while setting BROWSER in .bashrc will work for invocations of sensible-browser from the command line it won't have any effect

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-27 Thread Bob Proulx
line would of course show all of my shell variables including those that were set from the .bashrc file. But running it from GNOME itself through the launcher would not. Creating the test script seems a little less crass than adding similar env dump modifications to /usr/bin/sensible-browser

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-26 Thread Steve Kleene
On 2011-07-26 00:43:30 GMT, Robert Holtzman wrote: Try putting that line in .bashrc, log out and back in. Don't forget the . On 2011-07-26 02:39:24 GMT, I wrote: I just did try that with the , and I still got sensible-browser when I used metamail. Maybe that's unexpected, but at least

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Steve Kleene wrote: I should clarify that I am doing all of this from command lines under a window manager (fvwm). When I call startx, the first xterm's settings come from ~/.bash_login. But if I call more xterms from there, any settings in ~/.bashrc override those. This was easily verified

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-26 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 02:39:24AM +, Steve Kleene wrote: On 2011-07-26 00:43:30 GMT, Robert Holtzman wrote: Try putting that line in .bashrc, log out and back in. Don't forget the . I just did try that with the , and I still got sensible-browser when I used metamail. Maybe

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-26 Thread Robert Holtzman
and sensible-browser. I had no entry for html in ~/.mailcap, and /etc/mailcap listed sensible-browser. I did this all with metamail, which is kind of archaic. On 2011-07-26 00:43:30 GMT, Robert Holtzman wrote: Try putting that line in .bashrc, log out and back in. Don't forget

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-26 Thread Bob Proulx
for invocations of sensible-browser from the command line it won't have any effect for when GNOME is launched. Gnome has to be launched manually? Not my experience. On my distros it launches at boot. What distros are you basing your statement on? Or am I completely misunderstanding your post? I

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-25 Thread Steve Kleene
On 2011-07-25 02:24:59 GMT, Paul E Condon wrote: How do I make debian offer google-chrome to gnome? I have checked all the places I know of. Where is sensible browser defined? You might check in /etc/mailcap for lines that begin with text/html. I prefer to have iceweasel called instead

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-25 Thread Camaleón
but into Iceweasel rather than google-chrome. I had thought the update-alternatives could fix this, but there is not a sensible browser name in u-a. Googling brings up only hits from several years ago, and only complaints, not solutions. (...) Have you configured google-chrome as your default

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-25 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 02:05:18PM +, Steve Kleene wrote: On 2011-07-25 02:24:59 GMT, Paul E Condon wrote: How do I make debian offer google-chrome to gnome? I have checked all the places I know of. Where is sensible browser defined? You might check in /etc/mailcap for lines

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-25 Thread Mark Grieveson
How do I make debian offer google-chrome to gnome? I have checked all the places I know of. Where is sensible browser defined? These are defined in the directory /etc/alternatives. For help, see the man page update-alternatives(8). Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-25 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 04:30:57PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 02:05:18PM +, Steve Kleene wrote: On 2011-07-25 02:24:59 GMT, Paul E Condon wrote: How do I make debian offer google-chrome to gnome? I have checked all the places I know of. Where is sensible

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-25 Thread Steve Kleene
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 02:05:18PM +, I wrote: You might check in /etc/mailcap for lines that begin with text/html. I prefer to have iceweasel called instead of sensible-browser, so I move the line with sensible-browser to the end of mailcap. I often have to repeat this procedure after

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-25 Thread Robert Holtzman
BROWSER but found that reading an html e-mail then brought up both iceweasel and sensible-browser. I had no entry for html in ~/.mailcap, and /etc/mailcap listed sensible-browser. I did this all with metamail, which is kind of archaic. Try putting that line in .bashrc, log out and back

Re: debian sensible browser help SOLVED

2011-07-25 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110725_140518, Steve Kleene wrote: On 2011-07-25 02:24:59 GMT, Paul E Condon wrote: How do I make debian offer google-chrome to gnome? I have checked all the places I know of. Where is sensible browser defined? You might check in /etc/mailcap for lines that begin with text/html

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-25 Thread Steve Kleene
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:53:28PM +, I wrote: From my command line, I tried BROWSER=/usr/bin/iceweasel export BROWSER but found that reading an html e-mail then brought up both iceweasel and sensible-browser. I had no entry for html in ~/.mailcap, and /etc/mailcap listed sensible

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Steve Kleene wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:53:28PM +, I wrote: From my command line, I tried BROWSER=/usr/bin/iceweasel export BROWSER but found that reading an html e-mail then brought up both iceweasel and sensible-browser. I had no entry for html in ~/.mailcap

debian sensible browser help

2011-07-24 Thread Paul E Condon
the update-alternatives could fix this, but there is not a sensible browser name in u-a. Googling brings up only hits from several years ago, and only complaints, not solutions. How do I make debian offer google-chrome to gnome? I have checked all the places I know of. Where is sensible browser

Re: debian sensible browser help

2011-07-24 Thread Burhan Hanoglu
containing HTML, I am but into Iceweasel rather than google-chrome. I had thought the update-alternatives could fix this, but there is not a sensible browser name in u-a. Googling brings up only hits from several years ago, and only complaints, not solutions. How do I make debian offer google

Re: sensible-browser weirdness (was Re: SOLVED was Re: pine help)

2008-07-30 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CB On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 04:07:28AM +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: echo'ing it seems to run then dump out of lynx... CB [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file $(which sensible-browser) CB /usr/bin/sensible-browser: Bourne shell script text

sensible-browser weirdness (was Re: SOLVED was Re: pine help)

2008-07-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 04:07:28AM +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RJ Works for me... RJ $ echo $(which sensible-browser) RJ /usr/bin/sensible-browser echo'ing it seems to run then dump out of lynx... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file $(which

Re: 'sensible-browser'

2007-07-30 Thread Mark Grieveson
From the name of Preferred Applications I assumed that's what I could use to specify the default web browser. In 'Preferred Applications' there was a 'Internet' tab which had an entry from 'Web Browser' and 'Mail Reader'. The 'Web Browser' entry had 'iceweasel'. However, when, in 'icedove'

Re: 'sensible-browser'

2007-07-28 Thread Wayne Topa
? If you examine /usr/bin/sensible-browser, which is not very long, you see 2 things that it looks for: 1) the environment variable called BROWSER 2) the Debian 'alternative' www-browser and x-www-browser It check $BROWSER first and if that does not exist, it checks, if in X, x-www-browser

Re: 'sensible-browser'

2007-07-28 Thread Larry Evans
On 07/28/2007 12:50 AM, M-L wrote: On Saturday 28 July 2007 13:57, Rick Pasotto shared this with us all: --} The browser I have running all the time is seamonkey. How can I get --} programs that want to use a browser open a seamonkey window instead of --} firing up the gnome or kde browser?

Re: 'sensible-browser'

2007-07-28 Thread Rick Pasotto
a seamonkey window instead of firing up the gnome or kde browser? If you examine /usr/bin/sensible-browser, which is not very long, you see 2 things that it looks for: 1) the environment variable called BROWSER 2) the Debian 'alternative' www-browser and x-www-browser It check $BROWSER

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