Re: Vivaldi & apt-get?

2016-11-15 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-11-14, John Conover <cono...@rahul.net> wrote: > > When updating vivaldi in Wheezy 7.X, I get "The following packages > have been kept back" vivaldi-stable. > > Vivaldi updates fine in Jessie 8.X. > > Both were i386, (32 bit,) installed via

Vivaldi & apt-get?

2016-11-14 Thread John Conover
When updating vivaldi in Wheezy 7.X, I get "The following packages have been kept back" vivaldi-stable. Vivaldi updates fine in Jessie 8.X. Both were i386, (32 bit,) installed via ".deb" files. How do I fix Wheezy? Thanks, John -- John Conover, con

Re: vivaldi?

2016-02-08 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 10:08:07PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Hi Gene, all, > I think Gene should be handled with respect and patience > > > Comments please, and what browser are you all using that doesn't hassle > > the user to death, it Just Works, like firefox did 3 years ago. > > The popup you

Re: vivaldi?

2016-02-08 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 03:09:53PM +0100, Siard wrote: > David Christensen: > > Gene Heskett: > > > http://freedomoutpost.com/2016/01/isis-to-activate-thousands-of-sleeper-cells-in-2016-to-destabilize-the-west/ > > > > I see the web page. > > > > > There I found a flash, tried to play it, > > >

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-18 Thread James Cloos
>>>>> "GH" == Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> writes: GH> So I downloaded the vivaldi-beta deb, and tried to use apt-get to GH> install, but that spit out several dozen pages of E: lines and didn't. To install a downloaded deb, try: dpkg --install fi

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-04 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 11:33:05PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 03 January 2016 22:43:36 Bob Holtzman wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 05:21:17PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:02:59 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > So I installed googles chromium, > > > > > >

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-04 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:06 AM, John Hasler wrote: > Bob writes: >> What is your substitute? Also I haven't heard of a lot of security >> problems w/ iceweasel. Enlighten me please. > > Lisi writes: >> e.g. >>

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-04 Thread David Christensen
On 01/03/2016 07:44 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 03 January 2016 21:56:46 David Christensen wrote: Did you click on something to produce that error message? Yes, the listed links. Then your IceWeasel and/or Wheezy are broken. I would do a backup, wipe, fresh install (or re-image),

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-04 Thread Siard
hrome available for NPAPI web browsers such as Iceweasel and Seamonkey, using the latest Flash version, which is 20.0.0.228 at the moment. This way, the video mentioned above plays fine here in Iceweasel, Seamonkey, Opera and Vivaldi. As for YouTube, in www.youtube.com/html5 you can set YouTube to use html5 wherever possible.

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-04 Thread Floris
Op Sun, 03 Jan 2016 16:02:59 +0100 schreef Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>: Greetings all; So I downloaded the vivaldi-beta deb, and tried to use apt-get to install, but that spit out several dozen pages of E: lines and didn't. vivaldi-beta is an older version use the snapshot v

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-04 Thread Curt
On 2016-01-03, John Hasler wrote: > > BTW there is a Firefox plugin that will make Youtube use HTML5 instead > of Flash. I use the latest version of Firefox; Youtube defaults to HTML5 for the most part, but I get no sound. I've gleaned, perhaps incorrectly, that it may have

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 January 2016 17:06:44 Curt wrote: > On 2016-01-03, John Hasler wrote: > > BTW there is a Firefox plugin that will make Youtube use HTML5 instead > > of Flash. > > I use the latest version of Firefox; Youtube defaults to HTML5 for the > most part, but I get no

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
ty to large" whatever the heck that is. > >> > > >> >So I installed googles chromium, but it crashes and you have to > >> > use the reload button, hundreds of times a day. > >> > > >> >Konqueror is as emasculated as iceweasel. > >> >

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 January 2016 16:08:07 deloptes wrote: > Hi Gene, all, > I think Gene should be handled with respect and patience > > > Comments please, and what browser are you all using that doesn't > > hassle the user to death, it Just Works, like firefox did 3 years > > ago. > > The popup you see

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 January 2016 22:43:36 Bob Holtzman wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 05:21:17PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:02:59 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > So I installed googles chromium, > > > > Which? Google Chrome or chromium (debian package). > > > > > but it

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 January 2016 18:33:05 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 03 January 2016 22:43:36 Bob Holtzman wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 05:21:17PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:02:59 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > So I installed googles chromium, > > > > > > Which?

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread David Christensen
On 01/03/2016 07:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Trying to find a web browser that actually works here. iceweasel has been so emasculated that it asks about flash everytime, bringing up a requester that has a button labeled "allow and remember", but it doesn't remember, you have to do it for every

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread David Christensen
On 01/03/2016 01:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:43:51 David Christensen wrote: browser-plugin-gnash This has been installed for quite some time, several months. Please provide an example URL that causes the annoyance. David

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > Yes, I have seen that requester many many times, but when I go to the > adobe site like the suggested link goes to, the only version it offers > me is exactly what I've had for ay least 2 years, the last one afer > which they stated that no new linux compatibles would be

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 January 2016 22:14:24 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 03 January 2016 16:31:41 David Christensen wrote: > > On 01/03/2016 01:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:43:51 David Christensen wrote: > > >> browser-plugin-gnash > > > > > > This has been

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 January 2016 16:31:41 David Christensen wrote: > On 01/03/2016 01:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:43:51 David Christensen wrote: > >> browser-plugin-gnash > > > > This has been installed for quite some time, several months. > > Please provide an

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-01-03 10:02 (UTC-0500): > Trying to find a web browser that actually works here. With so many giving trouble, have you considered creating a new login user to test with? I find it hard to believe you can find no browser capable of using the web, or every browser

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 January 2016 16:54:28 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-01-03 10:02 (UTC-0500): > > Trying to find a web browser that actually works here. > > With so many giving trouble, have you considered creating a new login > user to test with? I find it hard to believe you can

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread John Hasler
Bob writes: > What is your substitute? Also I haven't heard of a lot of security > problems w/ iceweasel. Enlighten me please. Lisi writes: > e.g. > https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20151216182759.GA3513@pisco.westfalen.local So what? Those are Firefox bugs. They were fixed. "sudo apt

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 January 2016 19:00:10 John Hasler wrote: > Lisi writes: > > Had you thought of actually installing Iceweasel from the > > repositories? You might find it worked better, as well as updating > > better. > > It works fine for me. Has for years. I nuked all the gnash and lightspark

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:43:51 David Christensen wrote: > On 01/03/2016 07:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Trying to find a web browser that actually works here. iceweasel > > has been so emasculated that it asks about flash everytime, bringing > > up a requester that has a button labeled

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread David Christensen
On 01/03/2016 02:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Well, slashdot can crash chrome just sitting there on the front page, presumably when an attempt is made to load some off-my-screen bit of slashdot. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/armed-militia-takeover-oregon-debate-meaning-of-terrorist/ Testing

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 January 2016 21:56:46 David Christensen wrote: > On 01/03/2016 02:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Well, slashdot can crash chrome just sitting there on the front > > page, presumably when an attempt is made to load some off-my-screen > > bit of slashdot. > > > >

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread John Hasler
Lisi writes: > Had you thought of actually installing Iceweasel from the > repositories? You might find it worked better, as well as updating > better. It works fine for me. Has for years. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 05:21:17PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:02:59 Gene Heskett wrote: > > So I installed googles chromium, > > Which? Google Chrome or chromium (debian package). > > > but it crashes and you have to use the > > reload button, hundreds of times a

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/03/2016 10:19 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 03 January 2016 10:13:31 Ric Moore wrote: On 01/03/2016 10:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; Trying to find a web browser that actually works here. iceweasel has been so emasculated that it asks about flash everytime, bringing up

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Charlie Kravetz
a day. > >Konqueror is as emasculated as iceweasel. > >So I downloaded the vivaldi-beta deb, and tried to use apt-get to >install, but that spit out several dozen pages of E: lines and didn't. > >So I stepped into the deb with mc, and copied its contents to the >directories i

vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
entity to large" whatever the heck that is. So I installed googles chromium, but it crashes and you have to use the reload button, hundreds of times a day. Konqueror is as emasculated as iceweasel. So I downloaded the vivaldi-beta deb, and tried to use apt-get to install, but that spit out

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/03/2016 10:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; Trying to find a web browser that actually works here. iceweasel has been so emasculated that it asks about flash everytime, bringing up a requester that has a button labeled "allow and remember", but it doesn't remember, you have to

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 January 2016 10:13:31 Ric Moore wrote: > On 01/03/2016 10:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > Trying to find a web browser that actually works here. iceweasel > > has been so emasculated that it asks about flash everytime, bringing > > up a requester that has a

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Charlie Kravetz
t; story. >> > >> >And some news sites stories links are totally ignored, and some get >> >a "request entity to large" whatever the heck that is. >> > >> >So I installed googles chromium, but it crashes and you have to use >> > the reload but

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 January 2016 17:38:23 Gene Heskett wrote: > > I find that Flash on Iceweasel and Google Chrome both work on Wheezy > > for almost everything.  I don't use Iceweasel a lot because of all the > > security issues. > > Yes flash generally works, if you can get past that damned requester

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
tever the heck that is. > > > >So I installed googles chromium, but it crashes and you have to use > > the reload button, hundreds of times a day. > > > >Konqueror is as emasculated as iceweasel. > > > >So I downloaded the vivaldi-beta deb, and tried to use

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 January 2016 10:55:29 Ric Moore wrote: > On 01/03/2016 10:19 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 03 January 2016 10:13:31 Ric Moore wrote: > >> On 01/03/2016 10:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetings all; > >>> > >>> Trying to find a web browser that actually works here.

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:02:59 Gene Heskett wrote: > So I installed googles chromium, Which? Google Chrome or chromium (debian package). > but it crashes and you have to use the > reload button, hundreds of times a day. > Does anyone have a clue what that is all about? googles idea of an

Re: vivaldi?

2016-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 January 2016 12:21:17 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:02:59 Gene Heskett wrote: > > So I installed googles chromium, > > Which? Google Chrome or chromium (debian package). The latter. From its about screen: Version 37.0.2062.120 Built on Debian 7.6, running on