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Re: [Etch] Iceweasel, flash player et Freeze [Debutant]
Salut et BONNES ANNEES J'ai enfin reussi a resoudre ce probleme en installant le flashplayer-mozilla. J'ai fait quelques tests avec le flashplugin-nonfree mais ce n'a pas etait probant, ca a meme ete pire. Les 2 paquets propose la version flash: Shockwave Flash 9.0 r115, mais l'un plante et l'autre marche. Merci pour les conseils et les informations diverses et variees qu'il va falloir que j'etudie un peu pour progrsser. Bonne journee et encore BONNE ANNEE 2008 Amicalement Hugues Le 18/12/07, Hugues MORIN[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Bonsoir Hugues ( Ca fait bizarre c'est premiers mots.;-) ) J'ai en fin eu un vrai plantage comme j'avais l'habitude (j'ai confie la realisation de celui-ci a mon fils de 3 ans ;) qui a reussi cela en 20mn) Alors du coup, j'ai essaye toutes les commandes dont on a parle, Resultat: 1/ Dans Alt+SysRq+..., aucun ne fonctionne ( du moins en apparence) a l'exeption de Alt+SysRq+b, et biensur Alt+SysRq+o. 2/ A partir de ma 2eme machine XP, je peux faire un Ping sur la machine freezee et celle ci repond. 3/ Avec PuTTY, je n'arrive pas a me connecter. Quand j'ouvre PuTTY, dans la 1ere fenetre je saisie l'IP de la machine que je veux atteindre et je clique sur connecter (NB: le bouton radio SSH est coche). La fenetre de console souvre et puis plus rien, juste le curseur qui reste interminablement figer. Voila pour l'ampleur de la panne et ces details. Il ne me reste plus qu'a faire le changement du pluin flash, maintenant que j'ai essaye les solutions normales pour sortir d'un plantage. Du coup s/q/k/ ;) Pour être précis ce n'est pas tous les processus mais seulement ceux de la console courante... Desole mais la je ne te suis plus, par s/q/k tu veux dire Alt+SysRq+k ? ou alors c'est Alt+SysRq+s puis Alt+SysRq+q (mais c'est une erreur, ca n'existe pas) puis Alt+SysRq+k ? Non, je veux dir qu'il faut remplacer le q par un k dans ce que j'ai dis précédemment, voir : http://www.shellunix.com/regexp.html @+ Merci, vraiment tres interressant ce site, je vais le potasser. Ca fait deja quelques temps que je me poser des questions sur le shell et en particulier sur les sh. Bonne soiree Amicalement Hugues
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Re: Impossible d'utiliser le driver nvidia
Merci du conseil . Effectivement en utilisant le .run du site officiel de nvidia ça marche nickel. Est-ce quelqu'un à une idée du pourquoi la méthode debian ne marche pas ? Encore merci, Vincent Le 30/12/07, zsozi [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Bonjour! Tu as essaier avec le pilote d'origine de Nvidia?- http://www.nvidia.fr/object/linux_fr.html
Re: Impossible d'utiliser le driver nvidia
Le Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:09:10 +0100 Vincent MAUGE [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Merci du conseil . Effectivement en utilisant le .run du site officiel de nvidia ça marche nickel. Est-ce quelqu'un à une idée du pourquoi la méthode debian ne marche pas ? Encore merci, Juste pour dire que j'ai packagé pour Etch les drivers nvidia récents, si ça intéresse http://boisson.homeip.net/debian/Nvidia François Boisson -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Impossible d'utiliser le driver nvidia
J'ai parlé un peu vite. Quand je reboot mon pc ca ne marche plus j'ai une erreur comme quoi deux modules sont déjà chargé : ddc et ramdac. Je suis obligé de réinstaller pour que ça remarche. Est-ce que quelqu'un a déjà eu cette erreur ? Vincent Le 01/01/08, François Boisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Le Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:09:10 +0100 Vincent MAUGE [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Merci du conseil . Effectivement en utilisant le .run du site officiel de nvidia ça marche nickel. Est-ce quelqu'un à une idée du pourquoi la méthode debian ne marche pas ? Encore merci, Juste pour dire que j'ai packagé pour Etch les drivers nvidia récents, si ça intéresse http://boisson.homeip.net/debian/Nvidia François Boisson -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Carte Son Intel
bonjour et bonne année à tous! arf non ca ne fais strictement rien que d'ajouter cette ligne. Merci quand même. Par contre j'ai remarquer qu'au démarage il y a un petit bruit (comme quand on met le courant à des enceintes) et cela ne le faisait pas avant le changement du noyau. JF Le lundi 31 décembre 2007 à 18:24 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Selon jf grunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Voila ce que tu m'a demander : fermi:/home/jf# lspci -v | grep -i -A 15 audio 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Unknown device 30cc J'ai un truc plus ou moins identique sur mon Dell: lspci -v|grep -i -A 1 audio 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 0209 et pour que le son fonctionne à peu près j'ai du ajouter un fichier sound dans /etc/modprobe.d avec cette ligne dedans: options snd-hda-intel model=5stack Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sons pour fenêtre de connexion sous debian testing
j'avais envoyé un message qui n'a pas eu de réponse et mes recherches sur internet furent difficiles. J'avais uniquement lors de la fenêtre de connexion (login) un affreux son système (produit par l'ordi); Je ne suis donc peut-re pas le seul à avoir ce problème sous testing lenny/sid 2.6.22-3-686 . Il m'a fallu blacklister le module responsable de ce son, donner à greeter par le default.conf de gdm le chemin vers aplay (et non play qui n'existe pas) et bien sûr le chemin vers le son désiré. Solution complète là : http://quidamlinuxien.blogspot.com/ Bon, ok ce n'est pas majeur, mais trouver de petites choses peut parfois prendre beaucoup de temps ;-) pmd
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Quelle carte RAID 1 pour Debian Etch
Bonjour, Je suis à la recherche d'une carte (pci ou pci-x) compatible debian 4 pour faire du raid 1 matériel. J'aimerai y connecter 2 disques Sata II. Avez-vous des retours d'expérience ou des recommandations ? Quel modèle, quelle marque ? Quel prix et ou l'acheter ? Je m'interroge aussi sur un problème, lorsque je lis des sites sur le sujet : - certains disent qu'il faut que la carte soit compatible avec debian, c'est-à-dire que le noyau ou un module compatible doit exister. - d'autres disent que l'OS n'a rien à voir avec la carte RAID puisque l'OS ne voit qu'un seul disque et que le RAID est géré matériellement. Merci pour vos lumières ! Martin -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quel matériel pour Xen sur debian
Bonjour, Je cherche du matériel grand public pour monter un serveur Xen HVM (support des technologies VT et Pacifia). En gros, la seule interrogation est sur la carte mère. Avez vous déjà monter de telle configuration ? Merci, Martin -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Montaje automatico de pendrive incorrecto
El 1/01/08, Gonzalo Trujillo F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: El día 31/12/07, Jonay Domingo Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hola lista, felices fiestas a todos!! Me ha surgido hoy un problema con mi pendrive y como lo monta Debian automáticamente. Desde que instalé Debian(etch) siempre se me han montado automáticamente los pendrives que he conectado a los puertos usb así como las trajetas de memoria etc. El caso es que esta tarde he terminado de hacer unas cosas, he introducido el pen para guardar los archivos y no me ha dejado escribir en el dándome un mensaje de que el dispositivo era de sólo lectura. Lo he desmontado con umount y vuelto a montar con mount y como usuario root sí me dejaba escribir en el. Así que lo he vuelto a desmontar y lo he montado con así: #mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk -o uid=1000,gid=1000 (osea con los uid y gid de mi usuario) y voilá me ha dejado crear carpetas y copiar archivos. Deduzco de mi experiencia que de alguna forma se ha corrompido algún archivo de configuración del automontaje de usb. Si alguien pudiera indicarme en que archivos está la configuración del automontaje o a las malas como desactivar el automontaje y ya me monto manualmente los pendrive. Gracias de antemano y de nuevo feliz Año Nuevo!! Jonay. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] no tendra algun boton para proteccion de escritura el pendrive? intenta (como root): chmod -R a+rwx direcciondetudisco (por ejemplo chmod -R a+rwx /media/disk) A ver si te funciona. No, el pendrive no tiene ningún botón para protección de escritura. Ya probé a darle permisos con chmod, lo hice así: #chmod 777 /media/usbdisk y cuando ya estaba montado cambiaba los permisos. También probe a darle permisos 777 a la carpeta antes de montar el pendrive y aunque en ese caso si me asignaba los permisos a la carpeta después cuando lo montaba cambiaban. Gracias por las respuestas pero hoy mismo he vuelto a introducir el pen para probar otra vez y se ha automontado correctamente (como venía haciendo hasta ayer) permitiéndome trabajar con el perfectamente. Lo tendré que dejar como una anécdota pues no puedo explicar porque ayer no se montaba bien; el efecto 2008¿? xD. Gracias otra vez. Un saludo. Jonay. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mi Mac usa debian para Power PC o debian para iX86 ??????
Hola amigos: Hola de nuevo amigos hace mucho que no escribo y es que he estado ocupada trabajando, pero por fin pude comprarme mi MacBookPro y mi duda es: ¿Bajo la distro para PowerPC o para iX86, por que la Mac que tengo es una que tiene un Intel Core 2 Duo, entoces cual elijo? Y aprobechando tambien quiero preguntarles como le hago para instalar el debian en la Mac, de la misma manera qeu en Windows, particiono y hago un espacio en disco y despues le meto linux como siempre y he leido y algunos foros dicen que se puede emular y que tambien se puede con BootCamp, pero no estoy muy seguro y pues yo queria hacerlo como antes en Windows pero con toda la info que checo pues unos dicen que si y otros que no, entonces ya me confundi si hay alguien que ya lo aya hecho, por favor espero sus comentarios, por su atencion muchas gracias ¡ -- Hay dos maneras de vivir su vida: una como si nada es un milagro, la otra es como si todo es un milagro. *Albert Einstein*
Re: Um derivado do Debian para um pc antigo:k6-2 350mhz com 256 de ram.
* Luciana Sousa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Olá a todos , Alguém conhece um derivado do Debian que seja leve para rodar um pc antigo com a seguinte configuração: processador k6-2 350 mhz memória 256 mb video onboard sis placa mãe pc-chips Tentei o Ubuntu 7.10 ficou muito lento,difícil para usar. -- Grata, Luciana Estou escrevendo esta mensagem de uma máquina parecida com esta, a unica diferença é que a placa de vídeo usada não é a on-board, é uma rideon 128. Está rodando debian unstable com gnome. Meio lento na verdade, mas usável! -- Existem muitas semelhanças entre a colonização eletrônica e o sistema colonial antigo. [...] O sistema colonial recruta elites locais para conseguir subjugar o resto da população. Ao fornecer cópias grátis de seus softwares, que não são livres, para escolas, a Microsoft está usando a escola para criar uma futura dependência tecnológica na sociedade. Richard Stallman
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Re: Compilando iptables usando os Fontes do debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31-12-2007 13:27, Brivaldo Junior wrote: Bem Leandro, Essa mensagem aqui: dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0755 of `extensions/.layer7-test' will not be represented in diff nos diz que esse arquivo .layer7-test além de estar em modo executável não foi representado no DIFF, esse diz são as diferenças entre o arquivo fonte e as alterações que foram feitas pelo mantenedor do pacote. [...] Não... o que o erro diz é que o modo 0755 não é representado no diff, isso não tem relação com o fato do patch ter sido aplicado ou não e isso está relacionado à forma como o dpkg-source trabalha. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHet57CjAO0JDlykYRAmfzAKCY+0/7e/Bj7UTLqKG3hBA7mGk1PwCgqxXO BmEsnkUeGhlWP5uTrC5n7zs= =3yJC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recuperar tabela de partição
É só recriar a partição com o fdisk, com o mesmo tamanho e tipo de partição da original. Apenas uma pergunta: Você matou o usuário? Deveria... :-D Se usuário tivesse extensâo, seria .FDP (a frase não é minha, vi na Internet). -- Márcio H. Parreiras @ Pedro Leopoldo - MG - Brazil Por favor evite enviar-me anexos Excel (.xls), PowerPoint (.ppt) ou Word (.doc); Veja http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.pt.html Please avoid sending me Excel (.xls), PowerPoint (.ppt) or Word (.doc) attachments; See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Experimente http://www.broffice.org Try http://www.openoffice.org A caixa dizia: Requer MS Windows ou superior, então eu instalei Debian/GNU Linux! http://www.debian.org/index.pt.html The box said: Requires MS Windows or better, then I installed Debian/GNU Linux! http://www.debian.org/index.en.html http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux Codificação de caracteres / Character encoding: Unicode (UTF-8) .
Re: Re: Compilando iptables usando os Fontes do debian
Brivaldo, Antes de mais nada gostaria de agradecer-lhe pela atenção, estou aplicando o netfilter layer 7 v-2.9, como estou mandando a resposta com copia pra lista, nao sei se posso colar um anexo no email. Por isso estou enviando-lhe o link de onde baixei o patch. Att. Leandro. Bem Leandro, Essa mensagem aqui: dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0755 of `extensions/.layer7-test' will not be represented in diff nos diz que esse arquivo .layer7-test além de estar em modo executável não foi representado no DIFF, esse diz são as diferenças entre o arquivo fonte e as alterações que foram feitas pelo mantenedor do pacote. Você teria que além de baixar o fonte no caso deste backport, modificar o rules dentro do diretório debian do pacote e adicionar a entrada para que fosse aplicado o patch no teu pacote, se você puder me enviar o patch que você quer aplicar posso te ajudar melhor neste caso ok? Abraços, Brivaldo Jr (Condector) Em 29/12/07, Leandro Moreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Caros, Estou tentando recompilar o iptables (apliquei o layer7) apatir dos source (apt-get source iptables)disponível no mirror official do debian. Estou compilando com dpkf-buildpackage, pois assim ele gera um pacote .deb do iptables facilitando assim sua manutenção/atualização, so que ele uma mensagem de aviso: dpkg-source: building iptables using existing iptables_1.3.6.0debian1.orig.tar.gz dpkg-source: building iptables in iptables_1.3.6.0debian1-5.diff.gz dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0755 of `extensions/.layer7-test' will not be represented in diff dpkg-source: building iptables in iptables_1.3.6.0debian1-5.dsc debian/rules build Ao terminar de compilar ele gera os pacotes, e ao instala-los com dpkg, pra minha surpresa nao cria a lib do layer 7. Realizei o mesmo procedimente baiuxando um source do iptables (baixado no netfilter.org) aplicando o layer7 e compilando com o make, e após tudo terminado, o layer7 esta funcionando sem problemas. Será que alguem pode me ajudar? Att. PS: Com relação ao kernel ja esta tudo aplicado e funcionando, o módulo do layer7 carrega sem problemas. -- Leandro Moreira Linux Networks e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel.: + 55(32) 9197-7909 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- AlgTEC ( www.algtec.com.br) -- .''`. Debian GNU/Linux : :' : Free Operating System `. `' http://debian.org/ `- DEBIAN-MS !DSPAM:13,47790aa639861856753819! -- Leandro Moreira Linux Networks e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel.: + 55(32) 9197-7909 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Um derivado do Debian para um pc antigo:k6-2 350mhz com 256 de ram.
Olá... Acho bem interessante usar o fluxbox...segue dicas para instalação: apt-get update apt-get install x-window-system xserver-xfree86 fluxbox xdm Testa ai e depois informa o resultado de como ficou!!! Abraço. Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:59:38 -0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Um derivado do Debian para um pc antigo:k6-2 350mhz com 256 de ram. * Luciana Sousa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Olá a todos , Alguém conhece um derivado do Debian que seja leve para rodar um pc antigo com a seguinte configuração: processador k6-2 350 mhz memória 256 mb video onboard sis placa mãe pc-chips Tentei o Ubuntu 7.10 ficou muito lento,difícil para usar. -- Grata, Luciana Estou escrevendo esta mensagem de uma máquina parecida com esta, a unica diferença é que a placa de vídeo usada não é a on-board, é uma rideon 128. Está rodando debian unstable com gnome. Meio lento na verdade, mas usável! -- Existem muitas semelhanças entre a colonização eletrônica e o sistema colonial antigo. [...] O sistema colonial recruta elites locais para conseguir subjugar o resto da população. Ao fornecer cópias grátis de seus softwares, que não são livres, para escolas, a Microsoft está usando a escola para criar uma futura dependência tecnológica na sociedade. Richard Stallman _ Veja mapas e encontre as melhores rotas para fugir do trânsito com o Live Search Maps! http://www.livemaps.com.br/index.aspx?tr=true
Re: Controle de Banda Eficiente
Gunix, Acredito que as regras usando HTB abaixo possam te ajudar: ### #Controle de Tráfego #Max = 1Mbit #Banda1 = 400 (aqui vamos usar a porta do sistema: 1140) #Banda2 = 600 (computadores da rede em geral) DEV=eth0 tc qdisc del dev $DEV root /dev/null 21 tc qdisc add dev $DEV handle 1: root htb default 3 tc class add dev $DEV classid 1:1 parent 1: htb rate 1000kbit ceil 1000kbit tc class add dev $DEV classid 1:2 parent 1:1 htb rate 400kbit ceil 1000kbit tc class add dev $DEV classid 1:3 parent 1:1 htb rate 600kbit ceil 1000kbit tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1: prio 0 protocol ip u32 \ match ip protocol 0x06 0xff \ match ip dport 1140 0x \ flowid 1:2 ### Bem vamos a algumas explicações rápidas, primeiramente nós zeramos todas as classificações do dispositivo eth0 do nosso servidor que contém a aplicação alvo, depois criamos uma classe qdisc raiz do tipo HTB com tráfego default na 3. Depois disso criamos uma classe 1:1 com o total do nosso link ADSL em questão (1Mbit) e 2 classes filhas 1:2 e 1:3 com 400kbits e 600Kbits como mencionado pelo nosso amigo. Após isto, definimos um filtro que vai controlar a porta 1140 que diz que se a porta destino for a 1140 ele vai ser classificado na regra 1:2 e todo o resto do tráfego como não é filtrado vai para o default que é 1:3. [ ]´s Brivaldo Jr (condector) AlgTEC - Tecnologia da Informação Em 31/12/07, gunix [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Entendi Vi o Link, parece que no HTB tem jeito mesmo. Vou ver a fundo. Como o controle de banda era simples tava usando o shaper. O HTB e mais complicado para implementar. Vou tentar usar o HTB. Valeu Miguel. Se tiver algum material agradeço. Att Gustavo Em 31/12/07, Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática escreveu: gunix escreveu: Este é o problema. Talvez nao fui bem claro. Tenho 50 PC's na rede. Se limitar 512 kbps pra cada, continua acabando com meu link se dois ou tres usuários resolverem fazer download. Preciso de uma forma de limirtar 600 kbps para toda a rede, sendo que se somente 1 usar ele vai usar em 600 kpbs. Se 10 usarem vai naver em 10 60 kbps cada E sempre sobrará 400 para funcionar a porta 1140 do sistema. Por isso gostaria de limitar por porta. Att Gustavo Em 31/12/07, *Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: gunix escreveu: Turma, estou com um problema na lentidao do sistema consederável. Tenho 1 velox de 1 mega para uso da empresa e uso do sistema da empresa. O sistema da empresa roda sobre a porta 1140. Porem meu usuário da empresa consomem muita banda e precisava tentar limita-los para que o sistema nao sofra perda. Estavamos querendo deixar 600 kbps para a empresa usar e os demias 400 pro sistema. Tentei usar o shaper, com limitaçõa por porta. Entao criei regras que libera-se 600 k para cada porta (somente as principais) Somente a porta 1140 que deixei sem limitacao. Porem fiz a seguitne regra no shaper: DEVICE=eth0,100Mbit,10Mbit RATE=600Kbit WEIGHT=60Kbit PRIO=5 RULE= 10.2.0.0/16:80 http://10.2.0.0/16:80 http://10.2.0.0/16:80 BOUNDED=yes ISOLATED=no Porem no exemplo, a regra nao limita 600 k para toda a rede. e sim 600 k para cada usuário da rede nesta porta. Como so tenho 1 M, 2 usuário ja estourariam o link. Alguem sabe como crio a regra ou como posso fazer para limitar 600k para toda a rede, de tal forma que se 10 pessoas acessam consomeriam todos juntos somente 600 kbps? Att Gustavo Olha só... em casa tenho 2 PC's e precisava limitar a largura da banda por PC, então o que fiz foi usar HTB (é um dos algorítmos que aparece na sessão QoS do Kernel). Talvez valha a pena limitar por PC's. Acho que dá para fazer uma configuração que seja tipo: 1) 512 Kb/s para o PC aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd 2) 512 Kb/s para todo mundo. Aí o resto dos usuários teríam 512 Kb/s para eles e 512 Kb/s para o PC con IP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd. Boa sorte!!! -- Miguel Da Silva Administrador de Red Centro de Matemática - http://www.cmat.edu.uy Facultad de Ciencias - http://www.fcien.edu.uy Universidad de la República - http://www.rau.edu.uy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mas é isso mesmo que quis
Re: Compilando iptables usando os Fontes do debian
Bem, a intenção da resposta foi dizer que o nosso amigo deveria modificar o rules para que o patch fosse efetivamento aplicado. A mensagem foi apenas um alerta sobre as permissões do arquivo e realmente acredito que nada tenham a ver com o problema em si, apenas mais um detalhe a ser observado (até em programas em C/C++, não descansava até o último warning do -Wall do gcc não fosse resolvido, hehehe). Ao que parece ele colocou o patch lá mas não mudou o rules para que o patch fosse aplicado quando das aplicações dos patches, não é essa a idéia? [ ]´ s Brivaldo Jr (condector) -- .''`. Debian GNU/Linux : :' : Free Operating System `. `' http://debian.org/ `- DEBIAN-MS
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Konsolda Türkçe karakterler
Selam, Makinemi Stable'dan Testing'e upgrade ettikten sonra konsolda Türkçe karakterler çıkmadı. Sanırım klavye ingilizce olmuştu. belgeler.org'daki Türkçe NASIL'da anlatıldığı şekliyle ayarları yaptım. Şimdi ğ ve ş harfleri çıkmıyor, diğerleri çıkıyor. Bunun sebebi nedir. Nasıl düzeltebilirim. Kolay gelsin. Selçuk
parport0: FIFO is stuck
Merhaba Debian testing yüklü dizüstü bilgisayarımın loglarına (bilgisayarın çalışmaya başladığı süreyi baz alarak) bir dakika ara ile Jan 1 20:42:10 engerek kernel: parport0: FIFO is stuck Jan 1 20:42:10 engerek kernel: parport0: BUSY timeout (1) in compat_write_block_pio Jan 1 20:43:20 engerek kernel: parport0: FIFO is stuck Jan 1 20:43:20 engerek kernel: parport0: BUSY timeout (1) in compat_write_block_pio Jan 1 20:44:30 engerek kernel: parport0: FIFO is stuck Jan 1 20:44:30 engerek kernel: parport0: BUSY timeout (1) in compat_write_block_pio Jan 1 20:45:40 engerek kernel: parport0: FIFO is stuck Jan 1 20:45:40 engerek kernel: parport0: BUSY timeout (1) in compat_write_block_pio şeklinde hatalar basıyor. Bu hatadan önce donanımsal bir değişiklik de yapmadım. Sadece cups kurup yapılandırmıştım. Loglarda o dakikalarda çalışan başka birşey de göremedim. Bu hatanın sebebi ne olabilir? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
oracle servisleri neden durdurur?
Merhaba Arkadaslar; Hepinizin yeni yilini en icten dileklerimle kutlarim... Yeni yilin sizlere saglik, mutluluk ve basari getirmesi dilegiyle... Ve hemmen sorumu soruyorum...;) Kendi dokumaninda yazdigi uzere oracle kurulumunu tamamliyorum, tum servisler guzel bir sekilde calisiyor, ancak sistem yeniden baslatildiginda oracle servis disi kaliyor. ./dbstart ./lsnrctl start ./emctl start dbconsole gibi komutlarini verince listener The listener supports no service diyor. TNS name lerinde problem var diyor... Tamam kurulum hatali olabilir dedim ve dokumani enaz 3defa gozden gecirdim... Fakat yapilan hicbir hata yok... Az kaldi Oracle in paketleri icin kullandigi Universal Installerinin iyi olmadigini dusunecegim... Yada biryerlerde ciddi bir eksiklik var... Ya Kurulum basariyla tamamlandi deme yada diyorsan gercekten geregini yap... Yok TNS problemiymis yok servislerini manuel baslatmakmis(hadi manuel baslatmayi bir nebze de olsa anlayabilirim) hic production kalitesinde gosterilen bir urune yakismamis... Debian uzerinde oracle kullanan arkadaslar varsa vede bu konuyla alakali fikirlerini yazarlarsa cok sevinirim... Herkese kolay gelsin... iyi calismalar... -- Tolun ARDAHANLI Bilgisayar Muhendisi E-posta:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Icq:326600 Tolun ARDAHANLI Computer Engineer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Icq:326600
etch 2.6 kernel and modutils broken symlinks
Hi All My system is running etch with the latest updates and a 2.6 kernel. It has never installed or run a 2.4 or 2.2 kernel. I've noticed that my system has some files that belong to the modutils package (which is used with 2.2 and 2.4 kernels), however I don't have that package installed. The files are /sbin/ksyms and /bin/kallsyms, both of which are symbolic links to insmod.modutils which by the way doesn't exist. In addition to those two files there are the following files which are also symbolic links to the non-existant insmod.modutils: /sbin/modprobe.modutils /sbin/lsmod.modutils /sbin/rmmod.modutils /bin/lsmod.modutils Assuming that I continue to run 2.6 kernels, will these broken symbolic links and missing insmod.modutils cause problems for my system? If so, are there any recommended fixes ? BTW, why are these broken symbolic links present on my system ? Is this a known issue ? Thanks, Declan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
--- ZephyrQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip Just played with Opera for a while. I was impressed. Not afraid to pay $ for it if it can hold up to everyday usage (heck, considering how much $ I **don't** pay for software, dropping a few bucks here and there for a program worth it feels good...). Now I just have to make sure it handles .pdf stuff right (work requirement). Pay for it??? Opera doesn't ask for money anymoreunless you wish to donate to their cause. Considering how they have been pushing back against ms's BS, maybe we should all donate. ;) I really like Opera, and inspite of some difficulties having to do with plugins, I haven't found a browser that I am as satisfied with as theirs. The Wand feature is a real winner for me, as well as Speed Dial. If you are adventureous, and want to try Opera beta releases, go here: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ Opera 9.50 promises to be even better. :) Like I said, I really like Opera. -- Angus ##Linux Laptop powered by Debian Linux## ###Reg. Linux User #278931### Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compatibility problems
John Hasler wrote: Andrei writes: There are modems that also do the pppoe part. This is true. Those ones also usually also handle NAT and DHCP. They are often plug and play with any operating system (except for entering the username and password the ISP gave you via the Web server in the modem). The driver ATT wants you to install is just full of crapware that they want on your computer. If the modem provides straight ethernet (no pppoe or other specialities required), then the docs that come with your modem will usually tell you what ip-address the modem will have. Plug everything in per the instructions, enable the interface with dhcp and browse to said address. If the docs say nothing, watch the output from your dhcp client to find the ip of the modem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: etch 2.6 kernel and modutils broken symlinks
On Jan 01, Declan Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that my system has some files that belong to the modutils package (which is used with 2.2 and 2.4 kernels), however I don't have that package installed. The files are /sbin/ksyms and /bin/kallsyms, both of which are symbolic links to insmod.modutils which by the way doesn't exist. It's a feature. Assuming that I continue to run 2.6 kernels, will these broken symbolic links and missing insmod.modutils cause problems for my system? If so, No. are there any recommended fixes ? Ignore them, they disappeared in lenny anyway. BTW, why are these broken symbolic links present on my system ? Is this They are needed. a known issue ? Yes. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading in sid
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 18:34:55 -0500, charlie derr wrote: [...] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /sbin/ldconfig -pNX | grep 'libz\.so' libz.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 libz.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 libz.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libz.so libz.so (libc6) = /usr/lib/libz.so [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I'm not aware of ever intentionally doing anything to install any 64bit libs. My whole system is running as 32-bit. Your system is OK, except for the fact that there is a non-Debian libz.so.1 in /usr/local/lib/. Wherever this file came from, it does not implement the gzopen64 function which is needed by gconftool-2. Your problem will persist as long as the linker gives precedence to /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1. [...] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 | grep libz libz.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7e83000) Same as above: You need to see /usr/lib/libz.so.1 here (no /local/). I think I'd like to understand why this first attempt didn't work. I don't think you did anything so far. (/sbin/ldconfig -pNX is a diagnostic command; I was trying to tell you how to check which locations are known for the libz library.) aptitude is still very broken, full output here at http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/door/AptitudeUpgradeStillFailing The main issue seems to be the gconftool-2 problem. Whenever you call aptitude it will first try to fix the broken packages and it will continue to fail until the libz.so.1 issue is addressed. i'm totally lost by now (but eagerly trying to keep up), here's the output from that one: $ /sbin/ldconfig -pNX | grep local libz.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 libz.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libz.so libsvn_ra_local-1.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libsvn_ra_local-1.so.1 liblocalkonnector.so (libc6) = /usr/lib/liblocalkonnector.so so should i get rid of all those (or rename them) and see if that helps? AFAICT, your only two problems are /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 and /usr/local/lib/libz.so. My problem is that I don't know why these files are on your system, therefore I am hesitant to tell you to delete or rename them, because this might break other things. In my opinion you have three options: 1) Tells us exactly how and why these /usr/local/lib/ files got on your system. We might be able to figure out what the safest approach is if we know that. 2) Read up on the basics of linking and shared libraries, then make an informed decision yourself after you fully understand the present problem. 3) Remove or rename the /usr/local/lib/libz.so* files, run ldconfig (as root, without any arguments or options), make sure that ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 | grep libz shows /usr/lib/libz.so.1 will be used, and run aptitude install -f. Good show Florian! I got stuck in a similar situation a year or so ago. Happened through the installation of an RPM package that I alien'd. Happy new year. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome won't uninstall because I messed up dpkg by mixing and matching apt-get and aptitude incorrectly (used to be Re: upgrading in sid)
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/31/07 15:48, charlie derr wrote: [snip] Of course, I would do all this from the (real) console, not a GNOME terminal window. you're just chicken :-] Real Men use the console. I'm not sure what Real Women use. (i'm still in the same original openbox session I started in a couple days ago (my one concession was to not do this from my usual busy (50-100 application windows spread across 4 desktops) KDE session)) i did take the extra step of doing my upgrade from within a screen session (inside konsole, not gnome-terminal) Lastly, I'd *never* use aptitude. It appears (to me at least) that that's an irrational bias you have there. Irrational? I was last irrational in... in... well, it's been a *long* time since I've been irrational. T'was *at least* a year ago. Happy new year. aptitude (and wajig) likes to be more than slightly aggressive in what else it wants to remove when you remove a top level (not meta-) package. Recent versions of apt-get strike a nice balance by listing the packages that become orphanable by a remove, and helpfully suggests running apt-get autoremove. And just install the ones you want to keep, so that apt-get stops pestering/reminding you to autoremove them. I'm going with the debian/GNU party line which says aptitude is superior to apt-get in some way (though I still don't think there's a drop-in replacement for apt-get source functionality to make aptitude do the right thing, so I would still use apt-get there, but now that i know aptitude install -f is the equivalent of apt-get -f install, I really use apt-get for nothing except downloading source packages, aptitude happily works just fine (until this event, and I think it was really the number of upgradeable packages I was trying to do at once, and the unfortunate circumstance of not reading the apt-listbugs output closely enough to catch that this libxml2 problem was gonna bite me)) -- i'm confident it'll get solved though (and if not, a reinstall isn't a huge burden for me). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] mslinux?
On Tue January 1 2008, joseph lockhart wrote: i was browsing around and ran into the following http://www.mslinux.org/ kind of disturbing, microsoft doing linux here is a quote How do I get MS Linux? We are now offering the MS Linux Introductory CD at a special introductory price of only $249.99 (plus shipping and handling), if you order before it ships. oh well, thoughts jwlockhart Well, according to that site, MS plans to invade Cuba too : Microsoft Invades Cuba Microsoft's plan to invade cuba and overthrow the government has succeeded. One Microsoft official said It's a win-win situation. The US Government is happy and shuts up the DOJ while Microsoft institutes a monopoly within Cuba for everything from computer software to toilet paper. One more step closer to world domination. Heck, we could feed a whole development department for the cost of one developer's salary in the US. They may not know how to create an Operating System very well, but neither do our US developers Mihira. -- Random Quotes From Megas XLR Coop: You see? The mysteries of the Universe are revealed when you break stuff. Jamie: When in doubt, blow up a planet. Kiva: It's an 80 foot robot, if we can't see it, absolutely it's not here. Glorft Technician: Unnecessary use of force in capturing the Earthers has been approved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Wildly OT] Re: Galeon R.I.P?
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:31:39 -0600 Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: It's a Very Big Universe, and I'm not hubristic (is that a word?) enough to make such a claim. For the Jesus-followers out there, he put it this way for the know-it-alls, which agrees with Ron's take on matters: /If you were blind, Jesus told them, you wouldn't have sin. ^ But now that you say, 'We see'—your sin remains./ - John 9:41 And if hubristic is not a word, it should be; I like it. and the Spaniards in central America used it when they read the bible aloud to the locals , then said that they are no longer knowledge-less innocents (blind in your words) and thus it is OK to kill them for not following the bible ... Personally I believe that everyone should have a right to decide what they want to do with the software and how to distribute it. My main gripes with M$ in that respect is not so much that it is a shitty software, but more with the fact that they force me to pay for it even if I don't want it or use it (came with my new laptop, and despite junking it as soon as the laptop was turned on, I'm still stuck with paying for it).
PREEMPT kernel with nvidia
Hi, Is it possible to have a PREEMPT kernel while using the closed source nVidia driver? I've compiled the stable kernel 2.6.18 and the backported kernel 2.6.22, and both kill random programs. Its strange because it some times kills the game I'm running, sometime faults on boot up and once gcc actually died. Thanks, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] mslinux?
On Mon December 31 2007, steve wrote: http://www.mslinux.org/ a joke that sites been around forever per the web site: MS Linux: Shipping in November 2003 Last updated: Thursday, April 13, 2000 -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD distorted picture
hce webmail.hce at gmail.com writes: Hi, I am using mplayer to watch DVD video movies. Some DVD can be displayed on the screen well, but others were displayed in a distorted picture with 3 columns repeated the same contents. Does anyone know what was that problem and how to fix it? I was using following command: mplayer -fs dvd:media/INCONVENIENTTRUTH/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB First of all, you should be able to use a more simplified command line, something like: mplayer -fs dvd:// should do it. You may have to specify a title number, start with mplayer -fs dvd://1 and increase the number until something sensible happens. Hard to tell you in advance which number to use, depends on the DVD. Now, to your problem. I think we first need to figure out if this is an mplayer issue or an issue with the DVD itself. Try playing the DVD on a normal player, or using another program like totem. Do you get the same effect? If so, it's a problem with the DVD. If the DVD is an original, bought copy, you've either been ripped off or something has gone seriously screwy. If it's a copy, that's what you get for trying to rip off the film company ;-) Now assuming other players play it OK, it's starting to sound like an mplayer problem. It would be helpful to see the text output by mplayer when playing the DVD. If mplayer has a problem and so does some other software eg totem, but a hardware DVD player has no problem with it, that implies problems with the DVD reading libraries such as libdvdread and libdvdcss, in which case we are starting to get out of my depth, but let us know what versions of these libraries you have anyway... Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samsung ML-2010 Printer Not Recognized as connected to system
Thanks for your note. When I run /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb the following is output: direct usb://Samsung/ML-2010 Samsung ML-2010 Samsung ML-2010 USB #1 MFG:Samsung;CMD:GDI;MDL:ML-2010;CLS:PRINTER;STATUS:BUSY; I did the following based on the emails in debian-user. 1. Installed sysfsutils 2. Updated /etc/sysfs.conf with the line: module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend = -1 3. As root I ran the following: echo -n 60 /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend After rebooting the system I was able to install and use the printer. Thanks very much! Eric On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 21:01 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: snip Do you get any output if you run /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb ? -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: iceweasel / firefox segfault after lenny upgrade
Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 02:31:47 -0800, Towncat wrote:
[...]
OK, now iceweasel runs, but I realised that there is more to it,
something to do with fonts and pango. When I start non-kde
applications under kde, I get little squares instead of fonts.
The output is like this (for xsane, here):
xsane:9842): Pango-WARNING **: failed to create cairo scaled font,
expect ugly output. the offending font is 'DejaVu Sans 10'
(xsane:9842): Pango-WARNING **: failed to create cairo scaled font,
expect ugly output. the offending font is 'DejaVu Sans 12.5'
(xsane:9842): Pango-WARNING **: shaping failure, expect ugly output.
shape-engine='BasicEngineFc', font='DejaVu Sans 12.5', text='French
(Fran�ais)'
(xsane:9842): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_glyph_extents called
with null font argument, expect ugly output
(xsane:9842): Pango-WARNING **: shaping failure, expect ugly output.
shape-engine='BasicEngineFc', font='DejaVu Sans 10', text='XSane
v�ltozat: 0.995'
Ideas, anyone?
Try to run (as root) fc-cache -fs followed by update-pangox-aliases.
Do you get error messages? Does this improve the situation?
If the above does not help, post the output of these three commands:
ls -l /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf
dpkg -l lib{pango,cairo}\* | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'
awk '/^Name:.*pango/,/^$/' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
--
Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
Florian |
It did not help, I'm afraid. Here are the outputs (the last had none):
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/
DejaVuSans.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 581400 Oct 28 16:22 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l lib{pango,cairo}\* | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print
$1,$2,$3}'
un libcairo none
ii libcairo-perl 1.043-1
un libcairo0.5.1 none
un libcairo0.6.0 none
un libcairo0.9.0 none
un libcairo1 none
ii libcairo2 1.4.10-1+lenny2
un libcairomm-1.0-0 none
ii libcairomm-1.0-1 1.4.2-1
un libpango-common none
un libpango0 none
ii libpango1.0-0 1.18.3-1
ii libpango1.0-common 1.18.3-1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ awk '/^Name:.*pango/,/^$/' /var/cache/debconf/
config.dat
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
Re: iceweasel / firefox segfault after lenny upgrade
Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 02:31:47 -0800, Towncat wrote:
[...]
OK, now iceweasel runs, but I realised that there is more to it,
something to do with fonts and pango. When I start non-kde
applications under kde, I get little squares instead of fonts.
The output is like this (for xsane, here):
xsane:9842): Pango-WARNING **: failed to create cairo scaled font,
expect ugly output. the offending font is 'DejaVu Sans 10'
(xsane:9842): Pango-WARNING **: failed to create cairo scaled font,
expect ugly output. the offending font is 'DejaVu Sans 12.5'
(xsane:9842): Pango-WARNING **: shaping failure, expect ugly output.
shape-engine='BasicEngineFc', font='DejaVu Sans 12.5', text='French
(Fran�ais)'
(xsane:9842): Pango-WARNING **: pango_font_get_glyph_extents called
with null font argument, expect ugly output
(xsane:9842): Pango-WARNING **: shaping failure, expect ugly output.
shape-engine='BasicEngineFc', font='DejaVu Sans 10', text='XSane
v�ltozat: 0.995'
Ideas, anyone?
Try to run (as root) fc-cache -fs followed by update-pangox-aliases.
Do you get error messages? Does this improve the situation?
If the above does not help, post the output of these three commands:
ls -l /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf
dpkg -l lib{pango,cairo}\* | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'
awk '/^Name:.*pango/,/^$/' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
--
Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
Florian |
Based on the outputs I did a
dpkg-reconfigure libcairo2 libpango1.0-common
and an
fc-cache -fs
update-pangox-aliases
which seems to have helped.
Update of ROOT servers
Minor, minor. Only for completeness. Made some recent movements for some items in my /etc/bind today, and since it didn't work, also checked tail /var/log/daemon.log to find about my lack of knowledge w.r.t. CN. But also, there was some check_hints: A records for L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET class 1 do not match hint records Obviously some time ago there was a change of IP. To update, simply # dig ns . @M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. /etc/bind/db.root -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PREEMPT kernel with nvidia
Paul Andreassen wrote: Hi, Is it possible to have a PREEMPT kernel while using the closed source nVidia driver? I've compiled the stable kernel 2.6.18 and the backported kernel 2.6.22, and both kill random programs. Its strange because it some times kills the game I'm running, sometime faults on boot up and once gcc actually died. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sdb1$ uname -a Linux debian 2.6.23-1-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 9 10:02:52 CST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] mslinux
On Tuesday 01 January 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was browsing around and ran into the following http://www.mslinux.org/ kind of disturbing, microsoft doing linux here is a quote How do I get MS Linux? We are now offering the MS Linux Introductory CD at a special introductory price of only $249.99 (plus shipping and handling), if you order before it ships. oh well, thoughts jwlockhart I do not know what this is about but it would be, of course Microsoft Lindows. Why do you think they hounded him until he gave up that name? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: It does seem pretty fast. Personally, I use Opera, and it's been my Same here. I've tried quite a few browsers, but none keep up with opera for speed. Shame it's not Open Source, but you can't have everything. You could boycott it for being proprietary. That's the morally correct answer. Since when does proprietary == immoral? Who made your CPU? Intel or AMD? Aren't they proprietary? -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian how-to
On 01/01/2008, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 01:49:25PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote:
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 01:15:48PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL
PROTECTED] was heard to say:
Perhaps it should be policy that if the documentation isn't in the usual
/usr/share/doc/[package-name] that there be a note there with a pointer
(i.e. The documentation for this package is in the foo-doc package since
it is so big.) or (The documentation for this package is under a license
that does not meet the debian free software guidelines. You can find
the documentation {in the non-free package foo-doc | at the following
URL}, preferably the non-free package option.
Also, perhaps it should be policy that the man page for each command
list the package from which it comes and therefore where the further
docs are.
The dpkg -S trick should be in the debian installation manual under how
to find documentation, which should also point to the debian-reference,
and the other sources of documentation we've discussed in this thread.
A secondary issue is that there's no consistency in file formats
between different documentation packages. To read documentation, you
need to be able to handle:
* Plain text
* HTML
* PDF
* PostScript
* DVI
* Manpages
* Info documents
* Whatever help file format Gnome and KDE are using nowadays
There is also texinfo as another source of documentation and anyone
using perl has to know about perldoc.
This wouldn't be as much of an issue if there was a way for a user to
easily access all the documentation related to a command; PDF viewers
are fairly easy to deal with, for instance (although a lot of packages
compress their PDF documentation, which means you have to manually
uncompress it somewhere).
I think that pdf is the biggest issue. I don't normally put a pdf
reader on all my boxes and I often don't have X. I usually have mc and
lynx. If I need info, I'll use pinfo although I don't like the info
format.
I also dislike huge long man pages. To me, man pages should be for a
bit more help than foo --help; a summary. The main doc should be in
plain html for viewing with lynx or something.
I quite like man pages - I guess you must dislike the iptables and
bash ones immensely.
I use less as my pager and can search the man page to find things I
want plus move around the document reasonably well. The format of the
man pages is that the syntax is at the top of the file with the
options all discussed afterwards so I only have to go back up to the
top using 1G to refresh my view of what I am seeing. Esc-U usually
clears selected text resulting from a search.
I would however prefer to see a consistent approach to documentation.
It is very confusing for a newbie.
I am not entirely fond of the info system even though it is useful
with the emacs speedbar. Yet there are short man pages which say see
the info page for the complete documentation and that caused me the
worry of working out if I had info installed.
Lynx is useful for viewing HTML on non-X systems.
It is also important to have the documentation for the particular
version of the package installed
and not the latest available on the upstream website - many newbies
might well seek that website rather than think to look for
documentation on their system.
There is a massive amount of documentation out there. Some indexing
of debian documentation occurs on http://www.uk.debian.org/doc/ but I
think package documentation should always appear in
/usr/share/doc/packagename.
Some of the howtos are important to read especially the apt-get howto
but I find I worry how applicable some howtos actually are now.
Regards
Lesley
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Re: PREEMPT kernel with nvidia
Hi, 2008/1/1, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Paul Andreassen wrote: Is it possible to have a PREEMPT kernel while using the closed source nVidia driver? I've compiled the stable kernel 2.6.18 and the backported kernel 2.6.22, and both kill random programs. Its strange because it some times kills the game I'm running, sometime faults on boot up and once gcc actually died. I have the problem with nvidia driver too. If you want, have a look at here: http://www.debiantutorials.org/talkitup/index.php?topic=39.msg2630#msg2630 If this preempt kernel solve my problem too, then should be good! Which video card, and CPU do you have? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sdb1$ uname -a Linux debian 2.6.23-1-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 9 10:02:52 CST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux From where can I download this preempt kernel? -- Regards, Paul Csanyi http://www.freewebs.com/csanyi-pal/index.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PREEMPT kernel with nvidia
Hi, Is it possible to have a PREEMPT kernel while using the closed source nVidia driver? I've compiled the stable kernel 2.6.18 and the backported kernel 2.6.22, and both kill random programs. Its strange because it some times kills the game I'm running, sometime faults on boot up and once gcc actually died. Running it right now with 2.63.1-rt1, I believe which is real-time preempt. Using the older driver for mx400 cards.
Re: PREEMPT kernel with nvidia
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 23:25:47 +1000, Paul Andreassen wrote: Hi, Is it possible to have a PREEMPT kernel while using the closed source nVidia driver? I've compiled the stable kernel 2.6.18 and the backported kernel 2.6.22, and both kill random programs. Its strange because it some times kills the game I'm running, sometime faults on boot up and once gcc actually died. Such sporadic problems can be caused by faulty hardware. (bad RAM, power supply instability, insufficient cooling, ...) GCC for example can sometimes function as a sort of CPU-and-memory-stress-tester. Can you run your system (same load) on the nv driver without problems? Did you test this for a sufficiently long time so that you can be sure that the crashes only happen with the nvidia driver? -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [half solved] sources list not found repository debian
Micaela Gallerini [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/12/30, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think you need to know a lot more about how the packaging system works to be comfortable running a hybrid. I think you don't know a person I don't talk so^^ That you was intended generally, not specifically at yourself. s/you/anyone would/ I think that if etch don't work like a stable system like might be, I run again sarge or I run another distribution that permit to work correctly a simple programmer like me. Etch works very well on both my old PIII and a Sun Ultra 30. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using rsync to download photos from camera
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:01:08 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: I.e., rsync insists to copy again files that have already been copied, although I see no obvious reason why it is doing so. I use rsync, much like you do, to copy .debs to 4 other boxes. I only use it like below, and only transfer the newer .deb files. rsync --ignore-existing *.deb Ah, that sure will work. Best solution for this case. thanks. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: character encoding
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:52:07AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2007-12-31 15:08:24 -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Dec 31, 2007 1:41 PM, ChadDavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) What is the encoding of the file name? Is this a feature of the filesystem? This is also based on your locale. And this is nasty: This means that if the user changes his locales (or use different locales depending on the context), he will get buggy filenames; this is also the case with system scripts that run under the C locale. Also, different users using different locales won't easily be able to share files. Workaround 1: don't use non-ASCII characters in filenames. This may not be very user-friendly, but this is 100% compatible with everything. Workaround 2 (if ASCII isn't sufficient): always use UTF-8. But be careful about the normalization problems (NFC/NFD...). Linux can't handle that, so that you may get several files with the same name (but encoded differently) in the same directory. Workaround 3: get rid of (purge) the whole locales thing and stick with 'C'. Had the advantage of at least doubling the apparent speed of my slower computers. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
build dependency removal
Hi, I am implementing a script that installs packages for Etch in a chroot. However, there are a couple of packages in Sid that I need. I download the source and the build dependencies via: apt-get -y build-dep $i apt-get -y source --compile $i I would like to remove the build dependencies from the install process automatically. Other than doing a dpkg --get-selections prior to the build and after the build and removing the differences, is there a way to use dpkg to show what the build dependicies are and removing them via dpkg -P ? I am aware of pbuilder, but since I am installing in a chroot, I wasn't sure how pbuilder would work in a chroot. Thanks, John Schmidt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: build dependency removal
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John Schmidt wrote:
Hi,
I am implementing a script that installs packages for Etch in a chroot.
However, there are a couple of packages in Sid that I need. I download the
source and the build dependencies via:
apt-get -y build-dep $i
apt-get -y source --compile $i
I would like to remove the build dependencies from the install process
automatically. Other than doing a dpkg --get-selections prior to the build
and after the build and removing the differences, is there a way to use dpkg
to show what the build dependicies are and removing them via dpkg -P ?
I am aware of pbuilder, but since I am installing in a chroot, I wasn't sure
how pbuilder would work in a chroot.
Just like another machine, because is another chroot, so it would be a
chroot inside a chroot, but anyway, you can set up pbuilder to be in
etch, lenny or sid.
Regards.
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Re: Converting 3gp to avi
On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 20:59 +, Mark Clarkson wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 19:48 +0100, Rico Secada wrote: Thanks, but this seems to need some unsupported codecs or something? I needed to do this the other way, avi to 3gp, and had to download the latest ffmpeg from subversion as the debian-multimedia repository didn't have 3gp compiled in. I used the following configure line: ./configure --enable-libx264 --enable-gpl --enable-libfaac --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libamr-nb --enable-libxvid Hope this helps! Mark. After the build you could try this if you're using GNOME (it just came up in my RSS feeds): http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1885 Winff is a frontend for FFMPEG. It will convert most any video file that FFmpeg will convert. WinFF does multiple files in multiple formats at one time. You can for example convert mpeg's, flv's, and mov's, all into avi's all at once. You need a fully enabled ffmpeg to make full use if winff. The screenshot shows 3gp but I've not tried it. It would be good to know how well it works... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Terminal issues in fresh install
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 05:19:52PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 06:23:52PM -0600, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Is it significant that the old machine was using the basic en_US locale or that I've been accessing both of them via ssh from a workstation with its locale set to C? I'd guess that the locale of the workstation is relevant here. Your terminal is going to be running in your locale (you didn't mention if was the system console or an X terminal, but I assume an X terminal), and so it won't know how to deal with UTF-8 sequences output by the commands you're running remotely. Probably your best bet is to either enable UTF-8 locally or disable it remotely. Thanks for the suggestion. Building the en_US.UTF-8 locale on the workstation and exporting LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in the window used to connect to the server (your assumption of an X terminal is accurate) had no discernible effect, but setting LANG=C on the server did get the ASCII graphics working correctly. The workstation is still running the previous stable version (I haven't talked myself into dealing with working out the configuration for switching from XFree86 to x.org yet), so perhaps my X terminals are just too old to be able to handle UTF-8, regardless of the locale. -- I reckon we are now the only monastry ever that had a dungeon stuffed with sixteen thousand zombies. - perlmonks.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where did 'locate' go?
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 12:07:38 + (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a recently updated testing system, I went to use 'locate' to find something, and it's not found. Is my system somehow hosed or did 'locate' get, uh, relocated or something? =20 You need to update the database, with, as root, the updatedb command. Then locate will find all your newly installed files. I think he means where did locate go?? It's been moved into its own package. install your choice of locate, slocate, mlocate etc. Ah. Yes, that's possible. I use Etch, rather than Lenny, so I'm not privy to the issue of adjusting to the various changes that are happening. Occasionally I've wondered why locate wasn't finding files, later realizing that I had not updated the database; so, I just thought I'd mention it. However, I've not had the experience of losing the locate function after a dist-upgrade (given my sticking with stable). Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux kernel image 2.6.23-1 + sound card yamaha YMF-754
On 12/31/07, Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 09:40:25AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: [...] Maybe the problem is not with the hardware itself, but with some firmware issue, as indicated by dmesg (firmware request failed). ... Did something particularly special changed with kernel 2.6.23-1, which might be 2.6.23-2 instead according to aptitude (reading from aptitude linux-image-2.6.23-1-686, version 2.6.23-2)? I think I recall a discussion on d-devel about licence issues with some firmwares in the kernel. Probably that's why they got removed. You already solved your problem, but have a look in the non-free repo for any firmware package. If you can't find anything file a RFP bug. Regards, Andrei -- Does RFP stand for request for package? Any ways, do you think a package is necessary for firmware downloading? ipw2100 and ipw2200 also require firmware download, and I think they do not have any package for that purpose, am I wrong (if I am, please let me know, since I have an ipw2100 card under a dell laptop)? Maybe documenting what's needed for YMF sound cards to work is what's missing, :)... BTW, I didn't find anything to YMF sound cards firmware under any repository (well, I found under contrib, alsa-firmware-loaders, but it's of no use for the purpose of downloading and updating YMF firmware I guess)... Thanks a lot, -- Javier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Terminal issues in fresh install
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 12:48:04PM -0600, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 05:19:52PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 06:23:52PM -0600, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Is it significant that the old machine was using the basic en_US locale or that I've been accessing both of them via ssh from a workstation with its locale set to C? I'd guess that the locale of the workstation is relevant here. Your terminal is going to be running in your locale (you didn't mention if was the system console or an X terminal, but I assume an X terminal), and so it won't know how to deal with UTF-8 sequences output by the commands you're running remotely. Probably your best bet is to either enable UTF-8 locally or disable it remotely. Thanks for the suggestion. Building the en_US.UTF-8 locale on the workstation and exporting LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in the window used to connect to the server (your assumption of an X terminal is accurate) had no discernible effect, but setting LANG=C on the server did get the ASCII graphics working correctly. Note that just changing the environment variable inside the terminal won't help -- it's the terminal that needs to interpret those sequences, so you have to run *the terminal itself* in the new locale. I just ended up setting my locale in ~/.xsession to make it stick: export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 The workstation is still running the previous stable version (I haven't talked myself into dealing with working out the configuration for switching from XFree86 to x.org yet), so perhaps my X terminals are just too old to be able to handle UTF-8, regardless of the locale. IIRC there was a situation a few years ago where you had to install a Unicode-enabled xterm, pass -u, or both. Sarge dates to 2005; I'm sure that there were X terminals in 2005 that could handle UTF-8, but I don't know if the default xterm did. On the other hand, if you have no need for Unicode, just changing the remote end to C is probably the simplest option. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dvdstyler and KDE?
Any one using DVDstyler under KDE desktop? (It seems to require Gnome-desktop??) -ishwar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Terminal issues in fresh install
On 2008-01-01 20:57 +0100, Daniel Burrows wrote: Note that just changing the environment variable inside the terminal won't help -- it's the terminal that needs to interpret those sequences, so you have to run *the terminal itself* in the new locale. Some terminals also allow to change the encoding at runtime, e.g. KDE konsole or putty. I just ended up setting my locale in ~/.xsession to make it stick: export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 The last two lines here are actually redundant. IIRC there was a situation a few years ago where you had to install a Unicode-enabled xterm, pass -u, or both. Sarge dates to 2005; I'm sure that there were X terminals in 2005 that could handle UTF-8, but I don't know if the default xterm did. It did; the uxterm wrapper that always starts an xterm in UTF-8 mode was already present then, according to http://packages.debian.org/sarge/xterm. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
Angus Auld wrote: --- ZephyrQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip Just played with Opera for a while. I was impressed. Not afraid to pay $ for it if it can hold up to everyday usage (heck, considering how much $ I **don't** pay for software, dropping a few bucks here and there for a program worth it feels good...). Now I just have to make sure it handles .pdf stuff right (work requirement). Pay for it??? Opera doesn't ask for money anymoreunless you wish to donate to their cause. Considering how they have been pushing back against ms's BS, maybe we should all donate. ;) I really like Opera, and inspite of some difficulties having to do with plugins, I haven't found a browser that I am as satisfied with as theirs. The Wand feature is a real winner for me, as well as Speed Dial. If you are adventureous, and want to try Opera beta releases, go here: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ Opera 9.50 promises to be even better. :) Like I said, I really like Opera. Heh, been out of the 'latest-greatest' game for a while. I guess I still thought Opera was a 'for pay' proposition. Imagine my surprise when I didn't see any ads and/or a shareware notice come up while playing with it. I'm setting it up as my new browser now--a long term project as I have decided that I won't import my bookmarks (8+ years of bookmarking has left my bookmarks, well, bloated. I google everything now anyway...) and will just transfer sites/passwords as necessary. Dumb question, if I want a folder of bookmarks on my personal toolbar, can I change the icon from a folder to something else? If so, how? I couldn't find how to do it yet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
On Jan 1, 2008 7:10 AM, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: It does seem pretty fast. Personally, I use Opera, and it's been my Same here. I've tried quite a few browsers, but none keep up with opera for speed. Shame it's not Open Source, but you can't have everything. You could boycott it for being proprietary. That's the morally correct answer. Since when does proprietary == immoral? Who made your CPU? Intel or AMD? Aren't they proprietary? Hardware has scarcity which software lacks. There's no economic reason to sell software. Programmers should sell their service since trying to sell the product is, by definition, going to piss customers off and limits their freedoms. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux kernel image 2.6.23-1 + sound card yamaha YMF-754
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 13:52:32 -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: On 12/31/07, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 09:40:25AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: [...] Maybe the problem is not with the hardware itself, but with some firmware issue, as indicated by dmesg (firmware request failed). ... Did something particularly special changed with kernel 2.6.23-1, which might be 2.6.23-2 instead according to aptitude (reading from aptitude linux-image-2.6.23-1-686, version 2.6.23-2)? I think I recall a discussion on d-devel about licence issues with some firmwares in the kernel. Probably that's why they got removed. You already solved your problem, but have a look in the non-free repo for any firmware package. If you can't find anything file a RFP bug. [...] Does RFP stand for request for package? Yes, it does. Any ways, do you think a package is necessary for firmware downloading? ipw2100 and ipw2200 also require firmware download, and I think they do not have any package for that purpose, am I wrong (if I am, please let me know, since I have an ipw2100 card under a dell laptop)? I think it is impossible for Debian to ship the firmware itself, due to its license. Maybe documenting what's needed for YMF sound cards to work is what's missing, :)... I tried to add information about obtaining firmware to the ALSA page of the Debian wiki (based also on your's and Hugo's contributions to our earlier discussion), but this page is set to immutable. BTW, I didn't find anything to YMF sound cards firmware under any repository (well, I found under contrib, alsa-firmware-loaders, but it's of no use for the purpose of downloading and updating YMF firmware I guess)... It seems to me that the ALSA project is on somewhat shaky legal ground with their distribution of these firmware blobs. This is problematic for Debian, even for non-free. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
failure booting lvm volume group over encrypted disk
I'm trying to make a bootable backup disk based on a href=http:// linuxgazette.net/140/kapil.htmlthis howto/a. The backup is on an external usb-sata drive. There is an sdc1 partition that is not used, a small sdc2 for boot, unencrypted, and an sdc3 encrypted. On this there is a volume group, with two lv-s, one for root and one for swap. When booting the original system, I can open the encrypted disk, but I need to restart lvm for the system to find the volume group on it. I can also mount the lv-s. When I try to boot the backup system, it loads the initramfs, and I get this message: /dev/mapper/vg_externalsata_2-root does not exist. Looking at /proc/modules shows that the dm_crypt module is not loaded (although it seems to be included in the initramfs), which I think might be the problem. Any ideas? Did someone use the same howto with success? Tc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 1, 2008 7:10 AM, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: It does seem pretty fast. Personally, I use Opera, and it's been my Same here. I've tried quite a few browsers, but none keep up with opera for speed. Shame it's not Open Source, but you can't have everything. You could boycott it for being proprietary. That's the morally correct answer. Since when does proprietary == immoral? Who made your CPU? Intel or AMD? Aren't they proprietary? Hardware has scarcity which software lacks. There's no economic reason to sell software. Programmers should sell their service since trying to sell the product is, by definition, going to piss customers off and limits their freedoms. There is, though, economic reason to not release software code. If I had to open source the part of my system that goes on my clients' computers, someone who didn't put in the effort to develop it would start a company without the development costs and cause me serious damage. But maybe I'm wrong. After all, it's so easy to take a moral high ground and say you know what's absolutely right when you're the one who has nothing at stake by following what you say. There is a serious need for balance in the field of IP. While some feel it's okay to download any song for free and others want to control everyone's complete use of a song, movie, or software (for instance, the MS license that does not allow using standard XP as a web server for public use), we do have to remember that it takes work to produce IP and much of what's out there would not be there if it weren't for people and companies being able to get a return on their investment. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running games with wine messes up icons
When I start some windows game (using wine), it change resolution. When I finish playing, resolution is back to usual 1280x1024. However, when I log out from gnome and log in again, I find icons on panel messed up - clock and other things that were on right are now on left. Is there a way to prevent this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cups server on lenny system no accessible
Hello, I recently replace an etch system with a cups server running with a lenny system. In the cupsd.conf I modified this part: # Show shared printers on the local network. Browsing On BrowseProtocols cups BrowseAddress 192.168.1.255 BrowseAllow 192.168.1.* BrowseInterval 30 BrowsePort 631 BrowseOrder allow,deny #BrowseAllow all # Default authentication type, when authentication is required... DefaultAuthType Basic # Restrict access to the server... Location / Order allow,deny Allow localhost Allow @LOCAL # rd, 20080101 Allow 192.168.1.* /Location A Debian etch system is a cups client only and uses the directive ServerName 192.168.1.10 in its client.conf. The 192.168.1.10 is the server IP and works well e.g. with a standard ssh connection (i.e I have no basic networking problem). The client cannot access the server and there is not even a message in the server logfile. The client gets an Unable to connect to server. None of the systems has a firewall running. In the server logfile I see the line I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 (IPv4) but I miss that the server is listening to the network interface. Does anybody understand what is going wrong? Thanks, Rainer The server /var/log/cups/error.log: I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Scheduler shutting down normally. D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Saving remote.cache... I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Saving job cache file /var/cache/cups/job.cache... I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 (IPv4) I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Listening to /var/run/cups/cups.sock (Domain) I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Sending browsing info to 192.168.1.255:631 (IPv4) D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] cupsdDenyIP(loc=0x80b0f50(/), address=0:0:0:0, netmask=0:0:0:0) I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Loaded configuration file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Using default TempDir of /var/spool/cups/tmp... I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Configured for up to 100 clients. I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Allowing up to 100 client connections per host. I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Using policy default as the default! I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Full reload is required. I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Loaded MIME database from '/usr/share/cups/mime:/etc/cups': 36 types, 40 filters... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Loading printer hplj6p... I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Loading job cache file /var/cache/cups/job.cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 3] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 4] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 5] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 6] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 7] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 8] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 9] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 10] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 11] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 12] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 13] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 14] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 15] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 16] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 17] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 18] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 19] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 20] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 21] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 22] Loading from cache... D [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] [Job 23] Loading from cache... I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Full reload complete. I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Cleaning out old temporary files in /var/spool/cups/tmp... I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 on fd 3... I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Listening to /var/run/cups/cups.sock on fd 4... I [01/Jan/2008:23:39:05 +0100] Resuming new connection processing... -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
--- ZephyrQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angus Auld wrote: --- ZephyrQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip Just played with Opera for a while. I was impressed. Not afraid to pay $ for it if it can hold up to everyday usage (heck, considering how much $ I **don't** pay for software, dropping a few bucks here and there for a program worth it feels good...). Now I just have to make sure it handles .pdf stuff right (work requirement). Pay for it??? Opera doesn't ask for money anymoreunless you wish to donate to their cause. Considering how they have been pushing back against ms's BS, maybe we should all donate. ;) I really like Opera, and inspite of some difficulties having to do with plugins, I haven't found a browser that I am as satisfied with as theirs. The Wand feature is a real winner for me, as well as Speed Dial. If you are adventureous, and want to try Opera beta releases, go here: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ Opera 9.50 promises to be even better. :) Like I said, I really like Opera. Heh, been out of the 'latest-greatest' game for a while. I guess I still thought Opera was a 'for pay' proposition. Imagine my surprise when I didn't see any ads and/or a shareware notice come up while playing with it. I'm setting it up as my new browser now--a long term project as I have decided that I won't import my bookmarks (8+ years of bookmarking has left my bookmarks, well, bloated. I google everything now anyway...) and will just transfer sites/passwords as necessary. Dumb question, if I want a folder of bookmarks on my personal toolbar, can I change the icon from a folder to something else? If so, how? I couldn't find how to do it yet. I think you can make the change you desire, if I understand your question correctly. Opera's bookmarks file can be found ~/.opera/opera6.adr. You should be able to modify that file to suit your needs. I'm glad you find Opera worth your attention. They have an Opera Linux mailing list that has proved helpful in my experience, and I feel the Opera team works hard to make their browser a quality Linux, and, cross platform browser. The mailing list info, and a link to the list archives, can be found here: https://list.opera.com/mailman/listinfo/opera-linux HTHs. -- Angus ##Linux Laptop powered by Debian Linux## ###Reg. Linux User #278931### Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PREEMPT kernel with nvidia
Paul Csanyi wrote: Hi, 2008/1/1, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Paul Andreassen wrote: Is it possible to have a PREEMPT kernel while using the closed source nVidia driver? I've compiled the stable kernel 2.6.18 and the backported kernel 2.6.22, and both kill random programs. Its strange because it some times kills the game I'm running, sometime faults on boot up and once gcc actually died. I have the problem with nvidia driver too. If you want, have a look at here: http://www.debiantutorials.org/talkitup/index.php?topic=39.msg2630#msg2630 If this preempt kernel solve my problem too, then should be good! Which video card, and CPU do you have? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sdb1$ uname -a Linux debian 2.6.23-1-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 9 10:02:52 CST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux From where can I download this preempt kernel? 2 videocards: GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x AMD Athlon(tm) capacity: 2500MHz http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-2.6.23-1-686 Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/01/08 15:35, Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 1, 2008 7:10 AM, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 30, 2007 7:11 AM, default [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:34 -0800, Angus Auld wrote: It does seem pretty fast. Personally, I use Opera, and it's been my Same here. I've tried quite a few browsers, but none keep up with opera for speed. Shame it's not Open Source, but you can't have everything. You could boycott it for being proprietary. That's the morally correct answer. Since when does proprietary == immoral? Who made your CPU? Intel or AMD? Aren't they proprietary? Hardware has scarcity which software lacks. There's no economic reason to sell software. Programmers should sell their service since trying to sell the product is, by definition, going to piss customers off and limits their freedoms. I know someone who's on rms' Christmas card list... - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHetRaS9HxQb37XmcRAq09AKC14nWUNZ2CN5Ud6Rb7QMb8OzHYuACg7q56 C/pvSvZChr4ERokIbRY+cdU= =rOf4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cups server on lenny system no accessible
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 23:50:28 +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: Hello, I recently replace an etch system with a cups server running with a lenny system. In the cupsd.conf I modified this part: # Show shared printers on the local network. Browsing On BrowseProtocols cups BrowseAddress 192.168.1.255 BrowseAllow 192.168.1.* ^^^ Does the * wildcard work in IP addresses? (I only know about its use in hostnames, e.g. *.example.tld.) I would try 192.168.1.0/8 or 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0. In fact, as a first test I would check if it works with BrowseAllow all. BrowseInterval 30 BrowsePort 631 BrowseOrder allow,deny #BrowseAllow all # Default authentication type, when authentication is required... DefaultAuthType Basic # Restrict access to the server... Location / Order allow,deny Allow localhost Allow @LOCAL # rd, 20080101 Allow 192.168.1.* ^^^ same here /Location A Debian etch system is a cups client only and uses the directive ServerName 192.168.1.10 in its client.conf. The 192.168.1.10 is the server IP and works well e.g. with a standard ssh connection (i.e I have no basic networking problem). The client cannot access the server and there is not even a message in the server logfile. The client gets an Unable to connect to server. None of the systems has a firewall running. [...] -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] RIP Netscape
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:58:52 -0800 Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped discussion about Asimov's The Feeling of Power] But at only 49 years old it is unlikely to be out of copyright! A lot of the items on that site may be in the public domain, but an Asimov short story is unlikely to be one of them. I see nothing on the site that suggests that this individual has checked for copyright on the text that he has posted. He only says that the items are things that interest him. I know that most people don't think about these things, but my wife is a librarian, so she always does, and it has gotten me into the habit of thinking about it, too. You are right; it did not occur to me that there might be a copyright violation. Thanks for pointing it out. Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cups server on lenny system no accessible
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 00:55:04 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 23:50:28 +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: [...] BrowseAllow 192.168.1.* ^^^ Does the * wildcard work in IP addresses? (I only know about its use in hostnames, e.g. *.example.tld.) I would try 192.168.1.0/8 or 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0. In fact, as ^^^ This should be 192.168.1.0/24. a first test I would check if it works with BrowseAllow all. [...] -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Terminal issues in fresh install
Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC there was a situation a few years ago where you had to install a Unicode-enabled xterm, pass -u, or both. Sarge dates to 2005; I'm sure that there were X terminals in 2005 that could handle UTF-8, but I don't know if the default xterm did. xterm's supported UTF-8 since 1999: http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.log.html (likewise, it's been possible to change the encoding) -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Terminal issues in fresh install
Sven Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-01-01 20:57 +0100, Daniel Burrows wrote: Note that just changing the environment variable inside the terminal won't help -- it's the terminal that needs to interpret those sequences, so you have to run *the terminal itself* in the new locale. Some terminals also allow to change the encoding at runtime, e.g. KDE konsole or putty. xterm does that as well (control sequences, or menu entry) It doesn't adjust the fonts though, so it's possible to start it with an ISO-8859-1 font and switch to UTF-8, making it recognize but not display various characters. That's the point of the uxterm script - to make it simple. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot log in with gdm after lenny upgrade
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:49:43 -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 03:58:03AM +, Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session startup ... Setting 1M through im-switch for locale=en_CA Start IM through /farhome/hendrik/.xinput.d/en_CA linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/uim_toolbar. failed in listen(): INvalid argument mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied That almost sounds like you don't have write permission to $TMPDIR. Do you have any configuration that changes the value of $TMPDIR? (if you don't know about it you probably don't) What do the following commands output? ls -dl /tmp echo $TMPDIR Daniel Sure looks like it. Mounting lenny's root partition on /other on my backup etch system, I get lovesong:/farhome/hendrik# ls -ld /other/tmp drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2007-12-31 10:05 /other/tmp This is about as wrong for /tmp as I imagine. (Well, no, I could imagine it being a file, or a named pipe -- that would work worse) Easy to fix, once diagnosed. Will report back after I have a chance to reboot. Thanks. How did you ever manage to think of this? -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: cannot log in with gdm after lenny upgrade
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 00:58:22 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:49:43 -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: That almost sounds like you don't have write permission to $TMPDIR. Do you have any configuration that changes the value of $TMPDIR? (if you don't know about it you probably don't) What do the following commands output? ls -dl /tmp echo $TMPDIR Daniel Sure looks like it. Mounting lenny's root partition on /other on my backup etch system, I get lovesong:/farhome/hendrik# ls -ld /other/tmp drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2007-12-31 10:05 /other/tmp This is about as wrong for /tmp as I imagine. (Well, no, I could imagine it being a file, or a named pipe -- that would work worse) Easy to fix, once diagnosed. Will report back after I have a chance to reboot. Thanks. How did you ever manage to think of this? -- hendrik Works like a charm now. Thanks again. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Terminal issues in fresh install
Thomas Dickey wrote: Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC there was a situation a few years ago where you had to install a Unicode-enabled xterm, pass -u, or both. Sarge dates to 2005; I'm sure that there were X terminals in 2005 that could handle UTF-8, but I don't know if the default xterm did. xterm's supported UTF-8 since 1999: http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.log.html (likewise, it's been possible to change the encoding) Default xterm doesn't but if you want xterm with utf-8, that's another xterm install option. All you have to do is ensure you have en-USutf-8 installed as a locales option, and xterm utf-8 will pick it up. Regards, -- David Palmer Linux User - #352034 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: dvdstyler and KDE?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Any one using DVDstyler under KDE desktop? (It seems to require Gnome-desktop??) Not to worry. Unless you have some disk-space limitation that will not allow you to have the GTK libraries installed, they will only be loaded by applications which require them. Installing dvdstyler does not mean that you will run the GNOME desktop environment, only that the GTK libraries must be available for the application. DVDstyler runs just fine on KDE, just as K3b will run just fine on GNOME, if the libraries it needs are available. Both also run perfectly well on OLWM, XFCE, and every other desktop available in the Debian archives. This is one of the beautiful things about everyone using the Xwindow interface. Everyone plays nicely together. Curt- - -- November 5th: $4.3Million Dollars In One Day December 16th: $6 Million Dollars In One Day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD8vSST-bs8 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBR3rmUi9Y35yItIgBAQJIOwf/Y/Fo82Aql32g1cpWoyoI9VaItEa0octy paOSWsfGv3xXfLE3Lz+ioVi6MZnCDvJCdy2ICL86tqJYyqUXNq6W3pX4A0bStsFu 6hCYbb5aCiMTHN9rnpuaCe6pV3SmiJzwdswP9Ldws00pUpWAGswW/GgigJH/v5pj xLymfPUoXxCQr2ptnstzlAEr90Z9N+4eYVM1Aoo6KSP9LgFfEXRFzZBwn3mhDP+W D2m1e35qN9jpbKbxPSP+sfqXc5D3dcNdPtBG6RC+xNJEsb+MtlZKYXZPl6QLLmuy 2Gw4siqzrnWms+WmPT6IaYnPsnWLmtm32ZqP3/RRneeovLqug6TQSw== =QWTq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VMWare player: why no package?
VMWare Player's source has been released. Does anyone know why it isn't packaged for Debian? Should I just submit an RTP? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read my blog at blog.nitpicking.com. Reviews! Observations! Stupid mistakes you can correct! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMWare player: why no package?
On Jan 1, 2008 5:46 PM, Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VMWare Player's source has been released. Does anyone know why it isn't packaged for Debian? Nobody's packaged it yet? What's the licensing like on it? Should I just submit an RTP? Couldn't hurt... -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMWare player: why no package?
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 20:46:47 -0500, Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: VMWare Player's source has been released. Does anyone know why it isn't packaged for Debian? Should I just submit an RTP? -- FYI: a similar program 'Virtual Box' is packaged for Debian. http://debaday.debian.net/2007/12/05/virtualbox-a-virtual-pc-for-you/ --- Andrew Malcolmson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot log in with gdm after lenny upgrade
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 12:58:22AM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:49:43 -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 03:58:03AM +, Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session startup ... Setting 1M through im-switch for locale=en_CA Start IM through /farhome/hendrik/.xinput.d/en_CA linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/uim_toolbar. failed in listen(): INvalid argument mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied That almost sounds like you don't have write permission to $TMPDIR. Do you have any configuration that changes the value of $TMPDIR? (if you don't know about it you probably don't) What do the following commands output? ls -dl /tmp echo $TMPDIR Daniel Sure looks like it. Mounting lenny's root partition on /other on my backup etch system, I get lovesong:/farhome/hendrik# ls -ld /other/tmp drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2007-12-31 10:05 /other/tmp This is about as wrong for /tmp as I imagine. (Well, no, I could imagine it being a file, or a named pipe -- that would work worse) Easy to fix, once diagnosed. Will report back after I have a chance to reboot. Thanks. How did you ever manage to think of this? I'm not sure how Daniel managed to think of it, but it does pop up here from time to time... just one of those things people see enough times to remember. plus mkdtemp is a pretty good clue ;) A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
squid vs squid3
Hello, I've tried both squid and squid3 (via apt-get). My current config file (used for a transparent proxy) works well with both. Is there any advantage using one over the other? For a transparent proxy setup, which is better? Thanks -Will -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:08:20PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: ... Hardware has scarcity which software lacks. There's no economic reason to sell software. Programmers should sell their service since trying to sell the product is, by definition, going to piss customers off and limits their freedoms. There is, though, economic reason to not release software code. If I had to open source the part of my system that goes on my clients' computers, someone who didn't put in the effort to develop it would start a company without the development costs and cause me serious damage. I think this is often an over-inflated worry. I dabble in hacking on some open-source stuff a little bit here and there. In any sufficiently complex project, there is a *huge* learning curve to become proficient enough to truly support a product, much less meet customers' needs for changes and improvements. Sure, I could take whatever code you open and probably hack at it and make it do a few few things differently in pretty short order, but that would catch up with me quickly. Either the customer would need something I simply wasn't yet in a position to implement, or I woudl break something in some unforeseen way and end up mired in spaghetti source code I don't fully understand trying to hack my way out of the proverbial paper bag. So if your code is sufficiently complex to cause this kind of difficulty for someone using it to compete with you, then your own expertise will win out in the end. You'll be able to implement changes, track down bugs, support users etc with much more efficiency than the competition and in the long run win out. If your code isn't sufficiently complex to force this situation (I don't mean gratuitously complex, BTW), then maybe your code isn't worth all that much anyway? (no comment intended on your code specifically, just talking generalities here) But maybe I'm wrong. After all, it's so easy to take a moral high ground and say you know what's absolutely right when you're the one who has nothing at stake by following what you say. There is a serious need for balance in the field of IP. Indeed. While some feel it's okay to download any song for free and others want to control everyone's complete use of a song, movie, or software (for instance, the MS license that does not allow using standard XP as a web server for public use), we do have to remember that it takes work to produce IP and much of what's out there would not be there if it weren't for people and companies being able to get a return on their investment. I think the disparity comes in when the profit motives far exceed the realistic income expectations of a normal human being. It wasn't more than about a generation ago that song writers didn't get rich writing songs, they just made a living (and often a meager one at that). Same with musicians. There was a fragmented market with many people in many places earning a small living doing creative things. Now you have mega-corporations making huge profits by pushing a handful of artists at us. THey've consolidated it, provided an artifical scarcity of sorts by controlling the market, and created an atmosphere where if one doesn't make *millions* doing music, then there is no point in doing it. How many peices of software, or support contracts or whatever do you have to sell to make a decent living? And do you expect to make that living continuously for an extended period of time without continued work? or even develop and grow your products to the point where not only do you make a living, but you make many times more than a living and develop a large corporation? I'm not criticizing with these questions, just putting them out there as things to consider. ISTM that open source sort of levels the playing field a little bit, gives some control back to the little guy, allows little guys to make a living, possibly, with systems much more complex and robust than what one person could create on their own all as a benefit of the communal nature of the product. It's all food for thought, IMO. Happy New Year! A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:08:20PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: ... Hardware has scarcity which software lacks. There's no economic reason to sell software. Programmers should sell their service since trying to sell the product is, by definition, going to piss customers off and limits their freedoms. There is, though, economic reason to not release software code. If I had to open source the part of my system that goes on my clients' computers, someone who didn't put in the effort to develop it would start a company without the development costs and cause me serious damage. I think this is often an over-inflated worry. I dabble in hacking on some open-source stuff a little bit here and there. In any sufficiently complex project, there is a *huge* learning curve to become proficient enough to truly support a product, much less meet customers' needs for changes and improvements. Sure, I could take whatever code you open and probably hack at it and make it do a few few things differently in pretty short order, but that would catch up with me quickly. Either the customer would need something I simply wasn't yet in a position to implement, or I woudl break something in some unforeseen way and end up mired in spaghetti source code I don't fully understand trying to hack my way out of the proverbial paper bag. So if your code is sufficiently complex to cause this kind of difficulty for someone using it to compete with you, then your own expertise will win out in the end. You'll be able to implement changes, track down bugs, support users etc with much more efficiency than the competition and in the long run win out. If your code isn't sufficiently complex to force this situation (I don't mean gratuitously complex, BTW), then maybe your code isn't worth all that much anyway? (no comment intended on your code specifically, just talking generalities here) Most of the work is done on my local servers, but what I do is something many companies do, at least up to a certain point. I've gone out of my way to make sure the software on my clients' computers is as simple as possible. Basically all the work is done here, preparing it for a few final steps that take place o their system. This is a large part of what makes my stuff different from almost anyone else. I can control my system, I can't control my clients' computers, so I want a minimum of possible errors on their computers. I would not want to make it easy for someone to grab my code and compete. Maybe later, but I'm still within a year of finishing all the development work. ... While some feel it's okay to download any song for free and others want to control everyone's complete use of a song, movie, or software (for instance, the MS license that does not allow using standard XP as a web server for public use), we do have to remember that it takes work to produce IP and much of what's out there would not be there if it weren't for people and companies being able to get a return on their investment. I think the disparity comes in when the profit motives far exceed the realistic income expectations of a normal human being. It wasn't more than about a generation ago that song writers didn't get rich writing songs, they just made a living (and often a meager one at that). And some did quite well. George Gershwin wasn't broke. I don't think Harold Arlen died in poverty and there are many other song writers that did quite well. Some did very well, but yes, there were more that made a living and that was about it. Same with musicians. There was a fragmented market with many people in many places earning a small living doing creative things. Now you have mega-corporations making huge profits by pushing a handful of artists at us. THey've consolidated it, provided an artifical scarcity of sorts by controlling the market, and created an atmosphere where if one doesn't make *millions* doing music, then there is no point in doing it. What bothers me is that people use the mega-corps as an excuse or rationalization for not paying at all. If one really were on a moral crusade, why not download, then send a check directly to the songwriters and musicians for a percentage of what they'd pay for an album. I think we're seeing the last years of the mega-corps running the music business and it's just possible that sometime within the next decade, we'll see the music business changing back to an emphasis on, believe it or not, music. Perhaps then we'll see musicians that can play doing well as opposed to those who merely act like spoiled brats on stage. How many peices of software, or support contracts or whatever do you have to sell to make a decent living? And do you expect to make that living continuously for an extended period of time without
Re: Printing to CUPS-PDF from Iceweasel
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 14:09:25 -0500 Curt Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Since I searched the Debian-user archives first and didn't find this, I thought I would put it here after finding it in the Ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-38492.html To print to PDF from Iceweasel, open the print dialog and select the default/postscript printer, select properties, and change the command from lpr... to kprinter It's a persistant change, so it should only have to be done once. This will cause the kprinter dialog to run you select print, and the CUPS-PDF printer becomes easily available along with faxing, remote printers, the works. A friend of mine has no printer, and has been very frustrated because he prefers to use Iceweasel (after I set up Debian for him on his new laptop, he did NOT want Vista!) rather than Konqueror, and until just a few minutes ago I couldn't figure out how to give him reliable access the CUPS-PDF pseudo printer. What problem are you trying to solve? When CUPS is running and I open the File/Print dialog box in IW, I am automatically given the (default?) option of CUPS/CUPS-PDF. The other CUPS printers and PostScript/Default are all available from the drop-down list. Curt- Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian how-to
Thanks for the thoughts and advice. I agree about learning to use man pages, and I use them whenever possible, and also look for any installed docs, but I still think a list of common post-installation tasks would be handy. I'm going to do a couple of installs next week and will try to compile a list, or build off of David Martin's Ubuntu how-to. The Debian Wiki is also nice. http://wiki.debian.org/Manual-Howto Thanks again, Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 10:52:16PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:08:20PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: ... Hardware has scarcity which software lacks. There's no economic reason to sell software. Programmers should sell their service since trying to sell the product is, by definition, going to piss customers off and limits their freedoms. There is, though, economic reason to not release software code. If I had to open source the part of my system that goes on my clients' computers, someone who didn't put in the effort to develop it would start a company without the development costs and cause me serious damage. I think this is often an over-inflated worry. ... If your code isn't sufficiently complex to force this situation (I don't mean gratuitously complex, BTW), then maybe your code isn't worth all that much anyway? (no comment intended on your code specifically, just talking generalities here) Most of the work is done on my local servers, but what I do is something many companies do, at least up to a certain point. I've gone out of my way to make sure the software on my clients' computers is as simple as possible. Basically all the work is done here, preparing it for a few final steps that take place o their system. This is a large part of what makes my stuff different from almost anyone else. I can control my system, I can't control my clients' computers, so I want a minimum of possible errors on their computers. I would not want to make it easy for someone to grab my code and compete. Maybe later, but I'm still within a year of finishing all the development work. I can understand. And, as I said, I am not attempting to discuss your particular usage. Just the idea of open vs. closed source in general and the economic arguments in favor of clsoed source. And frankly, I'm not sure where I stand in a situation like yours. Likely in a similar position. ... It would level the playing field if everyone were on the same field. They're not. true. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... I can control my system, I can't control my clients' computers, so I want a minimum of possible errors on their computers. I would not want to make it easy for someone to grab my code and compete. Maybe later, but I'm still within a year of finishing all the development work. I can understand. And, as I said, I am not attempting to discuss your particular usage. Just the idea of open vs. closed source in general and the economic arguments in favor of clsoed source. And frankly, I'm not sure where I stand in a situation like yours. Likely in a similar position. I've considered this situation many times over. All the tools I use are open source. I avoid closed source programs whenever possible and have been quite keen to build my business on a grounds that I consider ethical and moral. My first post on this thread was in response to someone making what I consider a quite foolish statement that, essentially, closed source software was unethical. I know some people respect (such as RMS) say that, but I also think it's a statement that's more easily made by people who get nice tidy paychecks and aren't the ones who have to figure out how to do the marketing. If I write a program, a story, a song, a script, or anything else, or if I create a song or movie or any other IP work, I made it. Just as if I put the effort into making a chair or a car or anything else. It's up to me to decide what I do with it and how I'll find a way to get rewarded for my work. If I want to sell it as closed source software, I have every right to do it. If someone doesn't like it, then they don't have to buy it or deal with it. On the flip side, I do contribute to FOSS projects and hope, when this work is done, that any programming I do later will all be FOSS, but for now, I have the task of earning a living to deal with as well. It would level the playing field if everyone were on the same field. They're not. true. I think eventually we'll see more open source than closed source, but over the past 25 years or so, it seems the innovations have been made in closed source, then emulated in open source. There are advantages to different business models. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with hp-toolbox (hplip 2.7.10-5)
After a recent upgrade to a recent version of hplip and hplip-gui, my Debian Linux system can still print to the printer, but I have lost the ability to use hp-toolbox. The CUPS printing system sees the printer, says it's online, and prints just fine, but any attempts to use the toolbox, or utilities like hp-sendfax, now tell me No Installed HP Devices Found. Since I can print to it, the problem seems likely to be in the way hp-toolbox is reading (or not reading) the CUPS configuration, right? Has anyone else experienced this? How can I troubleshoot this further? -- Oh, look: rocks! -- Doctor Who, Destiny of the Daleks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
