Re: RSYNC

2014-10-15 Thread Kreatik
Bonjour a tous et merci Je vous présente mes excuses pour ce retour un peu tardif mais parfois on est trop occupé pour passer ses journées devant les consoles noires de server :D Bref un peu de galère j'ai du compléter ma connaissance de ssh et de rsync pour faire fonctionner tout ça mais

Témoignage d'un confrère

2014-10-15 Thread Groupe Rivalis
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Re: [HS] où acheter une routine?

2014-10-15 Thread Philippe Deleval
Le 14/10/2014 18:52, Stéphane GARGOLY a écrit : Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Le mardi 14 octobre 2014 à 15:11, Philippe Deleval philippe.dele...@wanadoo.fr a écrit : library ('laibr@ri] (pl libraries) N 1 (gen) bibliothèque f. 2 (series of books) bibliothèque f,

Re: [HS] où acheter une routine?

2014-10-15 Thread Christophe
Bonsoir, Le 15/10/2014 23:55, Philippe Deleval a écrit : bonjour à tous Je suis bien heureux de ne pas être le seul à le savoir sur la liste, mais je crois que l'information est intéressante pour certains... Crodialement Philippe En toute honnêteté, j'avouerais qu'il m'a fallu plusieurs

Re: [HS] où acheter une routine?

2014-10-15 Thread Philippe Gras
Le 16 oct. 14 à 00:35, Christophe a écrit : Bonsoir, Le 15/10/2014 23:55, Philippe Deleval a écrit : bonjour à tous Je suis bien heureux de ne pas être le seul à le savoir sur la liste, mais je crois que l'information est intéressante pour certains... Crodialement Philippe En toute

Re: La carpeta raíz se llena sin motivo

2014-10-15 Thread Antonio Trujillo Carmona
El mié, 15-10-2014 a las 00:06 +0100, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió: Hola Tengo Debian Jessie con una partición para la raíz de 902G y otra para home de 1,8T. Pues desde hace poco la partición raí­z se llena al 100%, si reinicio no me deja entrar de nuevo, se queda en bucle del

Re: chromium

2014-10-15 Thread Antonio Trujillo Carmona
El lun, 13-10-2014 a las 18:59 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: tarde ya no tengo chromium XDD Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd .../... Sin embargo yo uso jessie lo tengo actualizado con apt-get upgrade y si me funciona chromium. -- Salud. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: chromium

2014-10-15 Thread Manolo Díaz
El miércoles, 15 oct 2014 a las 12:13 horas (UTC+2), Antonio Trujillo Carmona escribió: El lun, 13-10-2014 a las 18:59 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: tarde ya no tengo chromium XDD Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd .../... Sin embargo yo uso jessie lo tengo actualizado con apt-get

restaura de ejabberd

2014-10-15 Thread luis
Buenos días a todos Resuelta que reinstale el ejabberd en debian 7 amd64 y para restaurar los usuarios con sus paswd no pude no se cuantos ficheros y de que carpetas tengo que salvar para cuando reinstale poder restaurar alguna idea ?? copiar a /lib/ejabberd passwd.DCD passwd.DCL

Re: chromium

2014-10-15 Thread Antonio Trujillo Carmona
El mié, 15-10-2014 a las 13:27 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió: El miércoles, 15 oct 2014 a las 12:13 horas (UTC+2), Antonio Trujillo Carmona escribió: El lun, 13-10-2014 a las 18:59 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: tarde ya no tengo chromium XDD Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd

Re: La carpeta raíz se llena sin motivo

2014-10-15 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:06:48 +0100, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió: Tengo Debian Jessie con una partición para la raíz de 902G y otra para home de 1,8T. Pues desde hace poco la partición raí­z se llena al 100%, si reinicio no me deja entrar de nuevo, se queda en bucle del siguiente aviso

Re: restaura de ejabberd

2014-10-15 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:14:42 -0400, luis escribió: Resuelta que reinstale el ejabberd en debian 7 amd64 y para restaurar los usuarios con sus paswd no pude no se cuantos ficheros y de que carpetas tengo que salvar para cuando reinstale poder restaurar alguna idea ?? copiar a /lib/ejabberd

Alternativas para server de correo sobre Debian

2014-10-15 Thread ciracusa
Hola Lista. Les consulto, estoy analizando la idea de montar mi propio server de correo para alojar 150 cuentas (mas o menos) en modalidad pop3/smtp (osea no van a ser imap). Que solución aconsejan? Que opinión les merece Zimbra? Muchas Gracias. Salu2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: restaura de ejabberd

2014-10-15 Thread felixtorpejo
On 2014-10-15 09:14, l...@ida.cu wrote: Buenos días a todos Resuelta que reinstale el ejabberd en debian 7 amd64 y para restaurar los usuarios con sus paswd no pude no se cuantos ficheros y de que carpetas tengo que salvar para cuando reinstale poder restaurar alguna idea ?? copiar a

Re: La carpeta raíz se llena sin motivo

2014-10-15 Thread Manolo Díaz
El 15/10/14 a las 00:25, Manolo Díaz escribió: Hola Tengo Debian Jessie con una partición para la raíz de 902G y otra para home de 1,8T. Pues desde hace poco la partición raí­z se llena al 100%, si reinicio no me deja entrar de nuevo, se queda en bucle del siguiente aviso [Núm en

Re: chromium

2014-10-15 Thread hubble
El Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:30:02 +0200 Antonio Trujillo Carmona antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es va dir: El mié, 15-10-2014 a las 13:27 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió: El miércoles, 15 oct 2014 a las 12:13 horas (UTC+2), Antonio Trujillo Carmona escribió: El lun, 13-10-2014 a las

Re: chromium

2014-10-15 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:45:45 +0200, hubble escribió: Pues a mi, uso jessie, no se ha acabado de arreglar al actualizar. Al arrancar el programa dice: Faltan algunas claves del API de Google. Se desactivarán algunas de las funciones de chromium y me da un link que no sirve para el caso:

Re: La carpeta raíz se llena sin motivo

2014-10-15 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)
El 15/10/14 a las 16:10, Manolo Díaz escribió: El 15/10/14 a las 00:25, Manolo Díaz escribió: Hola Tengo Debian Jessie con una partición para la raíz de 902G y otra para home de 1,8T. Pues desde hace poco la partición raí­z se llena al 100%, si reinicio no me deja entrar de nuevo, se queda

Re: Alternativas para server de correo sobre Debian

2014-10-15 Thread Alejandro G Sánchez martínez
El Mié 15 Oct 2014 10:52:26 ciracusa escribió: Hola Lista. Les consulto, estoy analizando la idea de montar mi propio server de correo para alojar 150 cuentas (mas o menos) en modalidad pop3/smtp (osea no van a ser imap). Que solución aconsejan? Que opinión les merece Zimbra? Muchas

Re: La carpeta raíz se llena sin motivo

2014-10-15 Thread Alejandro G Sánchez martínez
El Mié 15 Oct 2014 00:06:48 José Manuel escribió: Hola Tengo Debian Jessie con una partición para la raíz de 902G y otra para home de 1,8T. Pues desde hace poco la partición raí­z se llena al 100%, si reinicio no me deja entrar de nuevo, se queda en bucle del siguiente aviso [Núm en

Re: Actualizar red hat 6.3 (Santiago) a 6.3 (FINAL)

2014-10-15 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Sat, 11 Oct 2014 09:25:50 -0300 Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 11 de octubre de 2014, 2:56, William Romero wromer...@hotmail.com escribió: ¿Se puede hacer usado yum o es mejor instalarlo desde 0? Un saludo. Que yo sepa , red hat es linux!!!. De

Re: Actualizar red hat 6.3 (Santiago) a 6.3 (FINAL)

2014-10-15 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Sat, 11 Oct 2014 01:56:11 -0400 William Romero wromer...@hotmail.com escribió: ¿Se puede hacer usado yum o es mejor instalarlo desde 0? Un saludo. Que yo sepa , red hat es linux!!!. De todas formas si me pudierais ayudar os lo agradeceria. Ya y? Bueno

Re: Alternativas para server de correo sobre Debian

2014-10-15 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:52:26 -0300 ciracusa cirac...@gmail.com escribió: Hola Lista. Les consulto, estoy analizando la idea de montar mi propio server de correo para alojar 150 cuentas (mas o menos) en modalidad pop3/smtp (osea no van a ser imap). Que solución aconsejan? Que opinión

Re: Personalizar espacio de trabajo.

2014-10-15 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:56:36 +0200 Ala de Dragón aladedra...@gmail.com escribió: Hola :-D Solo tengo un Pc disponible para mis cosas personales y me gustaría hacer alguna personalizacion en mi Linux pc 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 i686 GNU/Linux Xfce. Me gustaría separar

Re: La carpeta raíz se llena sin motivo

2014-10-15 Thread Manolo Díaz
El 15/10/14 a las 16:10, Manolo Díaz escribió: El 15/10/14 a las 00:25, Manolo Díaz escribió: Hola Tengo Debian Jessie con una partición para la raíz de 902G y otra para home de 1,8T. Pues desde hace poco la partición raí­z se llena al 100%, si reinicio no me deja entrar de nuevo, se

Seleccionar texto en consola para copiar borrar

2014-10-15 Thread Maykel Franco
Hola buenas, me gustaría saber si se puede copiar texto en la consola como si de un bloc de notas se tratase. Y no tener que seleccionar el texto usando el ratón. Nunca e visto esto en ningún lado. Saludos.

Re: La carpeta raíz se llena sin motivo

2014-10-15 Thread Alejandro G Sánchez martínez
El Mié 15 Oct 2014 16:28:39 Alejandro G Sánchez martínez escribió: El Mié 15 Oct 2014 00:06:48 José Manuel escribió: Hola Tengo Debian Jessie con una partición para la raíz de 902G y otra para home de 1,8T. Pues desde hace poco la partición raí­z se llena al 100%, si reinicio no

Re: Seleccionar texto en consola para copiar borrar

2014-10-15 Thread Maykel Franco
Me respondo a mi mismo. Usando el comando screen se puede realizar. Alguna forma mas elegante? Saludos. El 15/10/2014 23:53, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: Hola buenas, me gustaría saber si se puede copiar texto en la consola como si de un bloc de notas se tratase. Y no tener

Re: Seleccionar texto en consola para copiar borrar

2014-10-15 Thread fernando sainz
El día 15 de octubre de 2014, 23:53, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: Hola buenas, me gustaría saber si se puede copiar texto en la consola como si de un bloc de notas se tratase. Y no tener que seleccionar el texto usando el ratón. Nunca e visto esto en ningún lado. Saludos.

RE: Actualizar red hat 6.3 (Santiago) a 6.3 (FINAL)

2014-10-15 Thread William Romero
¿Se puede hacer usado yum o es mejor instalarlo desde 0? Un saludo. Que yo sepa , red hat es linux!!!. De todas formas si me pudierais ayudar os lo agradeceria. Ya y? Bueno ahora cuéntanos el chiste. Suse , como siempre el Pelele de Angel Claudio no tenes idea de lo que

Re: La carpeta raíz se llena sin motivo

2014-10-15 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:23:52PM +0100, José Manuel (EB8CXW) wrote: 51837764/var/log/daemon.log ¡51 Gigas de daemon.log! Sin duda este parece uno de los culpables. Para ver cómo crece en directo un fichero de registro prueba esto: tail -f /var/log/daemon.log Con respecto a mi

Re: Problema mutt para enviar archivos adjuntos

2014-10-15 Thread Ricardo
El día 7 de octubre de 2014, 11:59, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Mon, 06 Oct 2014 20:24:52 -0500, Debia Linux escribió: El Tue, 03 May 2011 08:31:48 -0300, ,_(º Alejandro Lucas escribió: Buen dia listas. Necesito enviar archivos adjuntos con mutt a traves de una linea de comando.

Re: Actualizar red hat 6.3 (Santiago) a 6.3 (FINAL)

2014-10-15 Thread Felix Perez
El día 15 de octubre de 2014, 18:31, Angel Claudio Alvarez an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar escribió: El Sat, 11 Oct 2014 09:25:50 -0300 Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 11 de octubre de 2014, 2:56, William Romero wromer...@hotmail.com escribió: ¿Se puede hacer

Re: Como remover o Akamaihd

2014-10-15 Thread julio santos peppe
O porque desse malware estar infectado em uma máquina linux, agora não vem mais ao caso, sugestão: - tudo o que você possa fazer agora dentro do sistema pode ser monitorado pelo MALWARE, portanto sugiro que salve seus dados em um pem drive, dê um boot com uma versão livecd do linux prefiro a

Re: como atualizar kernel?

2014-10-15 Thread julio santos peppe
EU mantenho servidores linux VIRTUALIZADOS com sistemas em 8gb. USANDO O PADRÃO da instalação debian... tudo que faço é pelo prompt. o problema é querer utilizar uma isntalçao de sistema prompt para subir interfaces gráficas e outras coisinhas que vem junto com o gnome/KDE. pARA SERVIDOR FUNCIONA

Re: como atualizar kernel?

2014-10-15 Thread Gunther Furtado
Bom dia Julio, Em 15 de outubro de 2014 07:51, julio santos peppe juliope...@gmail.com escreveu: EU mantenho servidores linux VIRTUALIZADOS com sistemas em 8gb. USANDO O PADRÃO da instalação debian... tudo que faço é pelo prompt. o problema é querer utilizar uma isntalçao de sistema prompt

Re: Como remover o Akamaihd

2014-10-15 Thread Nelson Ramos
Obrigado pela resposta! Concordo que zerando o disco e reinstalando o sistema resolverá o problema, porém se o malware entrou, deve ter uma forma de removê-lo de lá sem reinstalar tudo, e é esse o caminho que eu gostaria de trilhar. Não descarto a sua sugestão, mas prefiro deixar para pô-la

Re: Como remover o Akamaihd

2014-10-15 Thread Nelson Ramos
Esqueci de citar a sugestão proposta pelo Diego! Vou tentar o que sugeriu, embora acredite que não seja o caso da infecção ser limitada somente ao navegador, uma vez que tanto o Chrome quanto o Firefox estão com o mesmo problema. Tentarei instalar o Opera e, sem mais modificações

Re: Como remover o Akamaihd

2014-10-15 Thread Rodolfo
grep -r nome do malware como é exibido /* Irá mostrar todos os arquivos que contém dentro de seu conteúdo o texto informado. Acho que isso já ajuda a procurar o mesmo. Em 15 de outubro de 2014 12:30, Nelson Ramos nelson.pra...@gmail.com escreveu: Obrigado pela resposta! Concordo que

Re: Como remover o Akamaihd

2014-10-15 Thread Leandro
Cara monitore pelo shell a atividade ao abrir o navegador assim e mais acertivo de mata-lo top ps iostat... Em 15/10/2014 13:30, Nelson Ramos nelson.pra...@gmail.com escreveu: Obrigado pela resposta! Concordo que zerando o disco e reinstalando o sistema resolverá o problema, porém se o

Re: Como remover o Akamaihd

2014-10-15 Thread Paulino Kenji Sato
enquanto estava fazendo uma manutenção nesse host, vejo na lista do ps algo suspeito, um processo /etc/spell. Um exec rodando a partir do /etc ? Muito suspeito. Submeti esse arquivo ao site virustotal, deu que 19 de 54 anti-vírus detectaram como vírus. Ad-Aware Linux.Mayday.C 20141015 Avast ELF:Elknot

Re: Hospedagem Terceirizada?!

2014-10-15 Thread Andre N Batista
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 08:04:31PM -0300, Marcio Benedito (China) wrote: E o PRISM? Lá fora tudo é espionado. Vc não se importa com isso? Não existe almoço grátis, nem barato. Baixam o preço lá fora pra poder incentivar pessoas, governos e empresas a deixar dados lá pra serem vasculhados.

Re: OT_Enlightenment Terminology-0.7 released

2014-10-15 Thread maderios
On 10/14/2014 11:35 PM, John Aten wrote: Terminology work with full functionality (cat pictures, etc) on Debian without installing the whole Enlightenment window manager? For some reason, I didn't think this was the case. To compile Terminology, install all Enlightenment + Efl dev libs

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 oct 14, 17:56:58, Steve Litt wrote: Because you don't want to inextricably drag a giant monolith into your Desktop Environment just to do a few things. If you compare systemd with a Desktop Environment I'm not quite sure who's the giant ;) And how were they handling this task

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 oct 14, 22:56:15, The Wanderer wrote: Not to mention that just offhand I'm not sure I'd even know how to turn off basic tab completion - whereas turning off programmable tab completion is pretty much just a matter of not sourcing the tab-completion files in the effective bash

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise, surprise. Damned for their success. We want Linux to be successful, but woe betide any company that actually gets us there... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: debian-advocacy?

2014-10-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 oct 14, 18:11:31, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: I'll never hear from you again, as you are clearly getting a kick out of fuelling the flames. I can assure you it is not my intention to fuel the flames, though this doesn't mean I couldn't be doing it anyway, inadvertently. I hereby

Re: debian-advocacy?

2014-10-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 15:34:22, Andrew McGlashan wrote: I'm not so sure that squeeze-lts will be supported well enough for long enough. Hopefully wheezy gets good support with a wheezy-lts. From https://wiki.debian.org/LTS Companies using Debian who are interested in aiding this effort

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 15:00:22, Andrew McGlashan wrote: At a later date, everything changes ... some things later than other things. I guess that gnome's version for 7.6 is too old to /need/ systemd. As I've already said in another post, Gnome (the Desktop Environment) doesn't need systemd, but

Re: Persistent hash sum mismatch in aptitude

2014-10-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 oct 14, 21:57:30, Hendrik Boom wrote: Whenever I do an aptitude update it seems to work OK, except for a series of messages at the end: ... Notice that this happens with *two* mirrors. Is there something I should do to stop this? You could try reporting this to

Re: debian-advocacy?

2014-10-15 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 04:07:25 +1100 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: Given that your only contribution to the list is outright and offensive hypocrisy why should you not be rightfully dismissed as an abusive and offensive poster who contributes nothing to the subject.

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-15 Thread Martin Read
On 14/10/14 22:56, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:15:40 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I understand none of the upstreams are actually requiring systemd itself (or more accurately systemd-logind), but the interfaces it is providing. I fail to see the

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread berenger . morel
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise, surprise. Damned for their success. We want Linux to be successful, but woe betide any company that actually gets

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 10:41:12, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Maybe you want. But I think that most users just want it to work fine and efficiently, which does not necessarily imply being sold massively around the world. The fact is, that linux is actually a success, but it has never

Re: [sendmail] outgoing mail leaves dead letter

2014-10-15 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Oct 2014 at 19:10:05 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: OK, here we go. mailx -v -s TEST 141014_184452 2xd1 rea...@jtan.com /tmp/tstmsg.txt Two mails are being sent. 550 5.1.1 2...@2xd1.local.lan... User unknown This one didn't make it. Why does it go to a dead letter? So it

Re: debian-advocacy?

2014-10-15 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 15/10/14 18:43, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 04:07:25 +1100 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: Given that your only contribution to the list is outright and offensive hypocrisy why should you not be rightfully dismissed as an abusive and

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread Brian
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise, surprise. Damned for their success. We

Re: OT: Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/14/2014 1:58 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Well, this really is OT for debian-users, but Turns out that SMTP WAS/IS intended to be reliable. Reliable, absolutely. 100% reliable? That simply isn't possible when people are involved in the equation (people

Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/14/2014 12:03 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: The 'silly statements' reference was about your suggestion that it is in any way shape or form 'ok' to *accept* mail to invalid recipients then send it to dev/null. Incidentally, yes there may be some circumstances where this

How to set up services depending on encrypted filesystems with systemd (was Re: How to do this ?)

2014-10-15 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Jonathan Dowland: Next step, adjust the daemon to depend on this. In my example, transmission-daemon supplies a .service file in the package. Copy this to /etc/systemd/system, and add a line (the line prefixed +): [Unit] Description=Transmission BitTorrent Daemon After=network.target

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread berenger . morel
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit : On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit : On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Check out

Re: OT: Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread Miles Fidelman
Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/14/2014 1:58 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Well, this really is OT for debian-users, but Turns out that SMTP WAS/IS intended to be reliable. Reliable, absolutely. 100% reliable? That simply isn't possible when people are involved in the

preseeding question (yes, re. systemd / sysvinit-core)

2014-10-15 Thread Miles Fidelman
Folks, So, it's been suggested here that one might write a preseed file to install sysvinit-core instead of systemd - but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to do that. What I've been able to determine so far: 1. There is now an essential metapackage called init that depends on one

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-15 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/10/2014 6:02 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: ConsoleKit, unmaintained. But fixed, for kFreeBSD A. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iF4EAREIAAYFAlQ+ZOQACgkQqBZry7fv4vtv5gEAqxefTmCV1PLqwNWgJOGeFwGD

Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/14/2014 3:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 10/14/2014 12:03 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/14/2014 11:17 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 10/14/2014 8:05 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: If you think I'm kidding, please by all means go make these silly statements

Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/14/2014 3:20 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 10/14/2014 11:24 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: However, once a message has been accepted - ie, *after* the DATA phase is complete, it should never be bounced, it should be delivered - or, worse, quarantined, or worst case, deleted

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread Mike McGinn
Comments inline below: On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 06:37:57 Scott Ferguson wrote: On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit : On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan

Re: preseeding question (yes, re. systemd / sysvinit-core)

2014-10-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 07:49:08AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: 1. There is now an essential metapackage called init that depends on one of systemd-sysv, or sysvinit-core, or upstart. (parenthetical question: What distinguishes a metapackage from a virtual package? Or perhaps, more

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread berenger . morel
Le 15.10.2014 12:37, Scott Ferguson a écrit : On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit : On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/15/2014 at 04:08 AM, Martin Read wrote: On 14/10/14 22:56, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:15:40 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: And it also seems to make sense (why should every Desktop Environment implement it's own solution for this?). And how were

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/14/2014 at 04:15 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 06:18:01PM +0200, lee wrote: Considering that the users are Debians' priority, couldn't this issue be a case in which significant concerns from/of the users about an issue might initiate a GR? Wouldn't it speak loudly

Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/14/2014 at 03:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/14/2014 12:03 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/14/2014 11:17 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: Wrong on two counts. First of all, the false notion Security through obscurity *never* works. This has nothing to do with

Re: OT: Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/14/2014 1:58 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Well, this really is OT for debian-users, but Turns out that SMTP WAS/IS intended to be reliable. Reliable,

Who is systemd-gpt-auto-generator, and why does s/he not like my partition table?

2014-10-15 Thread Jape Person
Hi, folks! Sorry about the title. I'm just addicted to movie titles from the 60s. (-: I am seeing this during the boot sequence on a Debian testing installation. Sometimes it is actually left showing on TTY1 after the DM (lightdm in this case) comes up, and sometimes not. From TTY1 ...

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread John Hasler
Steve Litt writes: Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise, surprise. Better Red Hat than just about anybody else. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread Joel Rees
2014/10/15 1:47 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk: On Tue 14 Oct 2014 at 12:06:11 -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:02:10AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400 Henning Follmann hfollm...@itcfollmann.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-15 Thread Miles Fidelman
Thanks to those who've provided scripts and pointers to apt- capabilities. But... both out of curiosity and practicality - to the Debian developers out there - are there any tools on the SCM or build servers that run dependency graphs across the package database? Miles Fidelman Andrew

Re: Who is systemd-gpt-auto-generator, and why does s/he not like my partition table?

2014-10-15 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-10-15 16:14 +0200, Jape Person wrote: I am seeing this during the boot sequence on a Debian testing installation. Sometimes it is actually left showing on TTY1 after the DM (lightdm in this case) comes up, and sometimes not. From TTY1 ... systemd-gpt-auto-generator[152]: Failed to

Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/15/2014 8:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/14/2014 3:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 10/14/2014 12:03 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/14/2014 11:17 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 10/14/2014 8:05 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: If you think I'm kidding, please by

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Wed, 15 Oct 2014 11:09:53 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk napísal: On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Check out what single

Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/15/2014 10:17 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 10/14/2014 at 03:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/14/2014 12:03 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/14/2014 11:17 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: Wrong on two counts. First of all, the false notion Security through obscurity

Re: OT (Sorta): Pepperflash Now Working on Wheezy 64-bit

2014-10-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Patrick Bartek wrote: Just got latest upgrade of Chrome Stable (38.0.2125.104-1) for my Wheezy 64-bit (Openbox WM only) directly from Google repo. Pepperflash player (15.0.0.189) now working. And it only took a month and a half. ;-) B with libc6 from Jessie? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Who is systemd-gpt-auto-generator, and why does s/he not like my partition table?

2014-10-15 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Jape Person wrote: From dmesg ...[4.853751] systemd-gpt-auto-generator[154]: Failed to determine partition table type of /dev/sda: Input/output error [4.854298] systemd[151]: /lib/systemd/system-generators/systemd-gpt-auto-generator failed with error code 1. ...

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-15 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:31:02 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com napísal: Using Debian package dependencies this is expressed as Depends: libpam-systemd by those packages that actually require those interfaces $ aptitude search '?depends(libpam-systemd)' Not always right

Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/15/2014 at 12:11 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/15/2014 10:17 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 10/14/2014 at 03:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Then what is that if it isn't obscurity? Security by obscurity isn't no one knows the password or no one knows the account name; it's something

Re: Who is systemd-gpt-auto-generator, and why does s/he not like my partition table?

2014-10-15 Thread Jape Person
On 10/15/2014 11:34 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2014-10-15 16:14 +0200, Jape Person wrote: I am seeing this during the boot sequence on a Debian testing installation. Sometimes it is actually left showing on TTY1 after the DM (lightdm in this case) comes up, and sometimes not. From TTY1 ...

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:02:03 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Ma, 14 oct 14, 17:56:58, Steve Litt wrote: Because you don't want to inextricably drag a giant monolith into your Desktop Environment just to do a few things. If you compare systemd with a Desktop

Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/15/2014 at 12:06 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/15/2014 8:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/14/2014 3:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: But you just said it was OK to delete emails. Please don't misquote me. I said it was the *worst case*, meaning, only marginally

Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/15/2014 12:25 PM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 10/15/2014 at 12:11 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: You're limiting it too much. From Dictionary.com: obscurity noun, plural obscurities. 1. the state or quality of being obscure. 2. the condition of being unknown: ... That's

Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/15/2014 12:06 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 10/15/2014 8:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/14/2014 3:28 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: But you just said it was OK to delete emails. Please don't misquote me. I said it was the *worst case*, meaning, only

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:11:10 +0100 Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise, surprise. Damned for their success. We want Linux to be successful, but woe betide

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:08:26 +0100 Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk wrote: On 14/10/14 22:56, Steve Litt wrote: And how were they handling this task before systemd? They were using ConsoleKit, which was orphaned upstream some time after systemd-logind came along. I rest my case. SteveT

Re: preseeding question (yes, re. systemd / sysvinit-core)

2014-10-15 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 07:49:08AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: 1. There is now an essential metapackage called init that depends on one of systemd-sysv, or sysvinit-core, or upstart. (parenthetical question: What distinguishes a metapackage from a virtual package? Or

Re: OT: Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joel Rees wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/14/2014 1:58 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Well, this really is OT for debian-users, but Turns out that SMTP WAS/IS intended to be reliable.

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 23:37:37 +0900 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: 2014/10/15 1:47 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk: Give me swearing in posts rather than innuendo and attempted character assassination of a group dedicated workers. Do you realize that a lot of your posts, jumping on

Re: Who is systemd-gpt-auto-generator, and why does s/he not like my partition table?

2014-10-15 Thread Jape Person
On 10/15/2014 11:53 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Jape Person wrote: From dmesg ...[4.853751] systemd-gpt-auto-generator[154]: Failed to determine partition table type of /dev/sda: Input/output error [4.854298] systemd[151]:

Re: Who is systemd-gpt-auto-generator, and why does s/he not like my partition table?

2014-10-15 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-10-15 17:53 +0200, Don Armstrong wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Jape Person wrote: I'm also having the drive checked by smartmontools at boot time and have received no warnings. You're basically not supposed to get I/O errors on drives like that. I'd try running smartctl -a /dev/sda;

Re: OT: Re: Recipient validation - WAS: Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/15/2014 12:50 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: I'll close by noting that this branch of discussion started with a focus on silently dropping spam, and whether that's a violation of standards. Actually, no, this branch started with a focus on whether or not it is a

Re: Who is systemd-gpt-auto-generator, and why does s/he not like my partition table?

2014-10-15 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Sven Joachim wrote: I don't think there is actually an I/O error here, looking at the code systemd-gpt-auto-generator makes this error up: , | errno = 0; | r = blkid_probe_lookup_value(b, PTTYPE, pttype, NULL); | if (r != 0) { |

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