Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you
On Wed 24 Nov 2021 at 17:27:08 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 24 November 2021 13:08:19 Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > Folks have discussed list bounces like this one in this forum already. > > I would like to draw the administrators' attention to > > bendel.debian.org, as shown here. I can't see enough to diagnose it as > > false positive or problem. Thanks > > The mail server at your ISP is bouncing it, call tech and have them > whitelist bendel.debian.org. I wouldn't have thought there was any use talking to your ISP about posts arriving at gmail.com, or any other external mail host. > That doesn't mean they don't send spam, cuz they do occasionally, but at > least it won't send you threatening msgs to ignore. You'll then get the > spam but spamassassin can handle that. If it's really coming from the list (rather than being sent directly to your harvested email address), then it should appear on the web at https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/recent where you can click on the 'Report as spam' link. I presume this is the most convenient (ie automated) way for Debian to receive reports. I don't see much threat in: > > 1 bounce out of 149 mails in 7 days (0%, kick-score is 80%) > > However: You can safely ignore this message (and you will not be > > unsubscribed :-) ) if your bounce rate remains low. Cheers, David.
Re: Debian 11 on old Macbook
Well if MacOSX is no longer booting immediately, then it appears installing rEFInd solved your initial problem, so that is good. rEFInd is quite configurable via refind.conf, but you may find it is simpler to just ignore the Windows icon rather than try to force it not to appear. The hairy details are here: https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/configfile.html And rEFInd has it's own mailing list for more user help here: https://sourceforge.net/p/refind/discussion/general/ K On Saturday, November 27, 2021, wrote: > Hello, > thanks for the help and suggestions: > I don't need to press alt (option) to view the operating systems because I > have rEFInd installed. > However, 2 Debian icons appear, one OS X, and one Windows. > If I click on the latter, a white writing on a black background appears > with: MBR 12: and a flashing underscore. > But I can't write anything. > The Debian 2 takes me to Debian and OS X to the Apple operating system. > Assuming I keep the 2 Debian, how do I get rid of the Windows symbol, since > it doesn't lead anywhere, so it results useless? > Thanks again > Francesco >
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 23:41:37 +0100 Linux-Fan wrote: > Nate Bargmann writes: > > > * On 2021 26 Nov 11:36 -0600, Celejar wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:43:16 + > > > Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > Jonathan Dowland > > > > ✎j...@debian.org > > > > https://jmtd.net > > > > > > I finally got tired of seeing tofu for some of the glyphs in your sig, > > > so I looked up their Unicode codepoints: > > > > Interestingly, I see the glyphs in Mutt running in Gnome Terminal and in > > Vim as I edit this in the same Gnome Terminal. My font is one > > installed locally, Droid Sans Mono Slashed which provides the zero > > character with a slash. > > > > I know that there is keyboard sequence in Gnome Terminal (Ctl-Shift-E > > then Space) to bring up a menu to select Unicode glyphs. > > > > > > > > - Nate > > I use the cone e-mail client in rxvt-unicode with the Terminus bitmap font > and I see only the icon next to `j...@debian.org`. Apart from that, the Yes, that one seems to be included in "normal" system fonts - I, too, saw it before I installed the noto fonts. > first line of the signature has two squares, the third line one and the post The two squares is apparently because the "person with blond hair" has a "light skin tone" modifier: https://emojipedia.org/person-light-skin-tone-blond-hair/ > by Nate has a single square, too. > > I can view the glyphs correctly by saving the mail as text file and opening > it with mousepad. `aptitude search ~inoto` returns the following here: > > | idA fonts-noto-color-emoji- color emoji font from Google > | i A fonts-noto-core - "No Tofu" font families with large > | i A fonts-noto-extra - "No Tofu" font families with large > | i A fonts-noto-mono - "No Tofu" monospaced font family wi > | i A fonts-noto-ui-core Okay, so when mousepad is showing the glyphs, it's presumably using the noto fonts. > I am pretty fine with _not_ seeing the correct glyphs by default given that > I do not want fancy colorful icons in my terminals anyway :) :/ Celejar
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 07:22:45 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA > > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font > > installed, or do they see tofu? > > I use Gnus. I've never manually installed any emoji fonts (or any other > fonts) but I see the glyphs, not the tofu. What does $ fc-list | grep noto return? Celejar
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 21:00:35 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > What does fc-list | grep noto return? > > 272 lines. Sorry - see my other message in this thread. So you clearly have the Noto fonts installed. They're not essential packages, so something you installed must have brought them in, if you didn't do so manually. > (No need to cc me) Sorry, Sylpheed's reply-to-list puts your email address in the CC field - perhaps because you set an explicit reply-to header? I'll take it out in the future. Celejar
Re: Apt pinning.
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021, Dan Ritter wrote: Tim Woodall wrote: Can anyone tell me exactly what this Pin line I have actually does - or even better point me to a webpage that has more than "if you want to do this use this" type of example? (FTAOD I know that this isn't right and is inconsistent but before I start changing it I want to really understand what it's currently doing) I have a local repository: Codename: buster Components: main Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 19:42:12 + Description: Debs for local installing Label: local debs Origin: local debs Suite: oldstable And I have a pin (which I've failed to update since bullseye became stable hence the a=stable) Package: * Pin: release o=local debs,a=stable,n=buster,l=local debs,c=main,b=amd64 Pin-Priority: 900 man apt_preferences # go ahead and read it, it's well-organized Many thanks. I think I've been lucky and stumbled into something that worked for me but isn't very robust. I've never set a default release, I've never added (except for sources) sources.list entries other than for things I've wanted installed. So the 900 worked. Need to think about whether I want to change that - I cannot immediately see how it improves things for me but it might make sense to change if that's what everybody else does. It will undoubtedly cause me head-scratching when I upgrade to Trixy and it doesn't work... I'm trying to solve a (minor) problem I'm having during upgrades from buster to bullseye where I've backported make from bullseye to buster. So on my buster systems I have: make/oldstable,now 4.3-4.1+tjw10r1 amd64 [installed] while once I've upgraded to bullseye I want to "downgrade" from my backported package to make 4.3-4.1 and then continue to track bullseye. You will need a priority over 1000. I don't recommend this, but you get to keep all the pieces. Yes, I don't think I can do this with a generic pin. Maybe pinning origin "" to -100 might work - not sure if that will uninstall or downgrade (I'll experiment). I think adding explicit pins to my 'bullseye-local-sources' package for these packages I want to downgrade might be my only option. For the two packages I have that I want to downgrade during the update to bullseye it's easy enough to manually fix and I haven't yet had to backport anything to bullseye that won't keep a patched version during the upgrade to Trixy. Thanks for the pointers. Tim.
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Do you have the "fonts-recommended" package installed? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA
Re: Apt pinning.
On Sat 27 Nov 2021 at 19:07:14 (+), Tim Woodall wrote: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2021, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Tim Woodall wrote: > > > Can anyone tell me exactly what this Pin line I have actually does - or > > > even better point me to a webpage that has more than "if you want to do > > > this use this" type of example? > > > > > > (FTAOD I know that this isn't right and is inconsistent but before I > > > start changing it I want to really understand what it's currently doing) > > > > > > I have a local repository: > > > > > > Codename: buster > > > Components: main > > > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 19:42:12 + > > > Description: Debs for local installing > > > Label: local debs > > > Origin: local debs > > > Suite: oldstable > > > > > > And I have a pin (which I've failed to update since bullseye became > > > stable hence the a=stable) > > > > > > Package: * > > > Pin: release o=local debs,a=stable,n=buster,l=local debs,c=main,b=amd64 > > > Pin-Priority: 900 > > > > man apt_preferences # go ahead and read it, it's well-organized > > > > Many thanks. I think I've been lucky and stumbled into something that > worked for me but isn't very robust. > > I've never set a default release, I've never added (except for sources) > sources.list entries other than for things I've wanted installed. So the > 900 worked. > > Need to think about whether I want to change that - I cannot immediately > see how it improves things for me but it might make sense to change if > that's what everybody else does. It will undoubtedly cause me > head-scratching when I upgrade to Trixy and it doesn't work... > > > > > I'm trying to solve a (minor) problem I'm having during upgrades from > > > buster to bullseye where I've backported make from bullseye to buster. > > > So on my buster systems I have: > > > make/oldstable,now 4.3-4.1+tjw10r1 amd64 [installed] > > > > > > while once I've upgraded to bullseye I want to "downgrade" from my > > > backported package to make 4.3-4.1 and then continue to track bullseye. > > > > You will need a priority over 1000. > > > > I don't recommend this, but you get to keep all the pieces. > > > > Yes, I don't think I can do this with a generic pin. Maybe pinning > origin "" to -100 might work - not sure if that will uninstall or > downgrade (I'll experiment). I think adding explicit pins to my > 'bullseye-local-sources' package for these packages I want to downgrade > might be my only option. For the two packages I have that I want to > downgrade during the update to bullseye it's easy enough to manually fix > and I haven't yet had to backport anything to bullseye that won't keep a > patched version during the upgrade to Trixy. > > Thanks for the pointers. The obvious way to do this would seem to be using an epoch, like 5:, to give your package priority over newer versions. This is standard practice for self-compiled kernels, because newer versions are being released all the time. Should you chance upon https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/FAQ, note that those exhortations apply to packages being placed into shared repositories, not to personal usage like yours. > > > When debian went from v2.2 potato to v3 woody, would this pin stop > > > working? Because woody would be stable and potato oldstable at that > > > point. Epochs are unaffected by any such considerations: they override the whole versioning system. BTW I can't recall seeing an official Debian epoch as high as 2: though someone will probably correct me. Cheers, David.
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
On Sat 27 Nov 2021 at 07:22:45 (-0600), John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA > > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font > > installed, or do they see tofu? > > I use Gnus. I've never manually installed any emoji fonts (or any other > fonts) but I see the glyphs, not the tofu. Questions like this remind me how little I understand font handling. I read mail in mutt in xterm in fvwm in X, currently in buster, and I see four glyphs. If I save the email in a file, then I see the same glyphs in less etc. The font that I'm using in the xterm is fonts-hack/fonts-hack-otf/fonts-hack-ttf/fonts-hack-web, whichever of those is pulled in by xterm -fa hack -fs 16 …. If I type xfd -fa hack, I can only display as far as 0x00feff, which is far short of all but LOWER RIGHT PENCIL, and even that glyph is displayed in xfd as an empty box. So it would appear that something is performing font substitution in the xterm. Hack is a pretty sparsely populated font AIUI. A windowed emacs -fn terminus-18 displays the pencil, and replaces the others by boxes containing the appropriate hex codes, 01f471, 01f3fb, and 01f517. xfd -fn terminus-18 displays the pencil's glyph as ? (and doesn't display a sufficient range to reach the others). Running less in xterm -fn terminus-18, I get a single-width blank space for the pencil, and double-width ? for the others. In case it matters, /etc/default/console-setup contains CHARMAP="UTF-8" CODESET="Uni2" FONTFACE="Terminus" FONTSIZE="16x32" A VC displays solid diamonds for all of them. I do have some noto packages installed (fonts-noto-hinted pulls in fonts-noto-core, fonts-noto-mono and fonts-noto-ui-core in buster), but don't know what's in them. When I use xfd on them, it always displays DejaVu instead, and fc-list noto returns nothing. (fonts-recommended is new in bullseye.) I wrote /four/ glyphs, but it sounds as if Celejar sees three, the first one being coloured with some sort of skin tone. My second glyph, , is a half-tone box with three lines of dots inside, of 3, 4 and 3 dots. Cheers, David.
Re: Apt pinning.
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021, David Wright wrote: On Sat 27 Nov 2021 at 19:07:14 (+), Tim Woodall wrote: Yes, I don't think I can do this with a generic pin. Maybe pinning origin "" to -100 might work - not sure if that will uninstall or downgrade (I'll experiment). I think adding explicit pins to my 'bullseye-local-sources' package for these packages I want to downgrade might be my only option. For the two packages I have that I want to downgrade during the update to bullseye it's easy enough to manually fix and I haven't yet had to backport anything to bullseye that won't keep a patched version during the upgrade to Trixy. Thanks for the pointers. The obvious way to do this would seem to be using an epoch, like 5:, to give your package priority over newer versions. This is standard practice for self-compiled kernels, because newer versions are being released all the time. I can see how epochs work when you never want to return to mainline - my squid packages would be an example (unless debian decides to adopt my configuration options) but they'd make less sense for things like make and dump where I've backported and want to return to mainline once the new version goes to stable. My system for tracking the upstream version and patching it is semi-automatic (unless any patch fails to apply) and I think trying to bump epochs would add another place where the automatic process would fail. I do use debmultimedia.org and I find the epoch bump annoying because I can't, for example, drop dmo during the upgrade from buster to bullseye and (mostly) have it disappear. IIRC I added dmo years ago for mp3 codecs - it's not needed any more but it's got it's tendrils everywhere and removing it safely and cleanly is unnecessarily hard. Kernels are a bit of a special case as they don't 'infect' other packages. Even my dump was holding libreadline7 from buster. I suppose what I really want is a 'minus epsilon' flag to dch which will generate a changelog that had a version that tests lower than the current version but higher than all versions that test lower than the current version. But I cannot see such a patch being accepted, however it is implemented, and dealing with this once every two years problem of mine is going to be less effort than maintaining a patched version of devscripts locally (and dpkg and whomever else compares versions) The following pin rule appears to fix my problem - I'm not sure yet if it's wise... Package: make dump Pin: release n=bullseye Pin-Priority: 1001 Tim
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:50:29 -0600 Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2021 26 Nov 11:36 -0600, Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:43:16 + > > Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > Jonathan Dowland > > > ✎ j...@debian.org > > > https://jmtd.net > > > > I finally got tired of seeing tofu for some of the glyphs in your sig, > > so I looked up their Unicode codepoints: > > Interestingly, I see the glyphs in Mutt running in Gnome Terminal and in > Vim as I edit this in the same Gnome Terminal. My font is one > installed locally, Droid Sans Mono Slashed which provides the zero > character with a slash. > > I know that there is keyboard sequence in Gnome Terminal (Ctl-Shift-E > then Space) to bring up a menu to select Unicode glyphs. > > I'm pretty sure Droid Sans Mono Slashed doesn't have the glyphs in question, and that you must actually have the noto or similar fonts installed, with some part of the Gnome infrastructure finding them when you select the glyphs. What does "fc-list | grep noto" show? If you have the noto fonts installed, try uninstalling them and then see if your system can still display the glyphs. Celejar
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Celejar writes: > What does fc-list | grep noto return? 272 lines. (No need to cc me) -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA
Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder
Read the ntfs-3 man page. Take a look at the man page for ntfs-3g, the section on Access Handling and Security: From the ntfs-3g man page: Access Handling and Security By default, files and directories are owned by the effective user and group of the mounting process, and ev‐ erybody has full read, write, execution and directory browsing permissions. You can also assign permissions to a single user by using the uid and/or the gid options together with the umask, or fmask and dmask options. Doing so, Windows users have full access to the files created by ntfs-3g. But, by setting the permissions option, you can benefit from the full ownership and permissions features as defined by POSIX. Moreover, by defining a Windows-to-Linux user mapping, the ownerships and permissions are even applied to Windows users and conversely. If ntfs-3g is set setuid-root then non-root users will be also able to mount volumes. You use the defaults option when mounting. I do not know how that affects access and security for ntfs-3g. I would suggest either using uid and gid options when mounting instead, or using the usermapping file that maps Windows users to Debian users. You need to check which user under Windows owns those folders, which Windows users have write access to those folders, etc. As mentioned in the man page, there is a way to map Windows users to Debian 11 users using the default .NTFS-3G/UserMapping file or a custom usermapping file with the usermapping mount option. I used this feature a long time ago, and the format for the usermapping file is documented in the ntfs-3g man page. As is said at the beginning of this reply, read the ntfs-3g man page! HTH, Chuck On 11/26/2021 3:29 AM, lists.deb...@netc.eu wrote: Hello to all, I have a dual boot PC with Windows 10 and Debian 11 This PC has 2 drives, one SSD that has both operating systems and a HDD where I store all other files (documents, music, images, ...) The goal is to share this HDD between Windows and Debian. To do it, I added the following line to the fstab file: UUID=ACB23705B236D414 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults,umask=000 0 0 the folders lount without any problem to /mnt/windows, all with the correct permission settings (rwx) : $ ls -l /mnt/windows/ total 80 drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 14 nov. 20:20 '$RECYCLE.BIN' drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 24 nov. 15:59 CloudStation drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 21 nov. 11:44 Documents -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8192 25 juin 08:15 DumpStack.log.tmp drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 22 nov. 20:41 Images drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 24 nov. 11:53 Music drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8192 23 nov. 06:21 'System Volume Information' drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40960 21 nov. 22:22 Downloads drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 21 nov. 19:44 Videos My problem is that in some sub folders, I'm not getting the write ("w") permission. For example on the "Documents" one: $ ls -l /mnt/windows/Documents/ total 117 drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16384 24 nov. 15:59 User1 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 26 nov. 2020 Default.rdp -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 432 11 mars 2021 desktop.ini dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 40960 24 nov. 15:59 User2 drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16384 24 nov. 16:00 Public drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 24 nov. 15:59 User3 dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 20480 21 nov. 12:05 Scan -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18432 4 déc. 2016 Thumbs.db drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 16 nov. 23:13 'Unified Remote' Most of the folders are OK, but I ave User2 and San that doesn't have the write ("w") permission... Do you have any idea on whats going on? Thanks in advance for all the help, Berst regards, Marc
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Nate Bargmann writes: * On 2021 26 Nov 11:36 -0600, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:43:16 + > Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > ... > > > Jonathan Dowland > > ✎ j...@debian.org > > https://jmtd.net > > I finally got tired of seeing tofu for some of the glyphs in your sig, > so I looked up their Unicode codepoints: Interestingly, I see the glyphs in Mutt running in Gnome Terminal and in Vim as I edit this in the same Gnome Terminal. My font is one installed locally, Droid Sans Mono Slashed which provides the zero character with a slash. I know that there is keyboard sequence in Gnome Terminal (Ctl-Shift-E then Space) to bring up a menu to select Unicode glyphs. - Nate I use the cone e-mail client in rxvt-unicode with the Terminus bitmap font and I see only the icon next to `j...@debian.org`. Apart from that, the first line of the signature has two squares, the third line one and the post by Nate has a single square, too. I can view the glyphs correctly by saving the mail as text file and opening it with mousepad. `aptitude search ~inoto` returns the following here: | idA fonts-noto-color-emoji- color emoji font from Google | i A fonts-noto-core - "No Tofu" font families with large | i A fonts-noto-extra - "No Tofu" font families with large | i A fonts-noto-mono - "No Tofu" monospaced font family wi | i A fonts-noto-ui-core I am pretty fine with _not_ seeing the correct glyphs by default given that I do not want fancy colorful icons in my terminals anyway :) YMMV Linux-Fan öö [...] pgpGNsO7W6ND3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 01:32:51 +0100 Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:36:04 -0500 > Celejar wrote: > > (...) > > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA > > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font > > installed, or do they see tofu? > > no idea what "most users" do; I am actually using sylpheed too, and I too > have these "emoji fonts" installed. Makes life easier sometimes, when > people use emoijis as a means of communication and just assume that you > are able to have them displayed. Makes sense. And my emails are now certainly more colorful ;) > Have a nice day :-) Celejar
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 12:29:33 +0100 "Sijmen J. Mulder" wrote: > Celejar : > > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA > > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font > > installed, or do they see tofu? > > I too use Sylpheed and get tofu. I must have mistakenly assumed emoji > fonts would be installed by default hence this being a Sylpheed > limitation. Thanks for enlightening! :) > Same issue with Sylpheed on Windows by the way, wonder if the same > solution would work... You can report back once you try it ;) > Sijmen Celejar
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
On 2021-11-27 at 21:08, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:50:29 -0600 > Nate Bargmann wrote: > >> * On 2021 26 Nov 11:36 -0600, Celejar wrote: >>> I finally got tired of seeing tofu for some of the glyphs in your sig, >>> so I looked up their Unicode codepoints: >> >> Interestingly, I see the glyphs in Mutt running in Gnome Terminal and in >> Vim as I edit this in the same Gnome Terminal. My font is one >> installed locally, Droid Sans Mono Slashed which provides the zero >> character with a slash. >> >> I know that there is keyboard sequence in Gnome Terminal (Ctl-Shift-E >> then Space) to bring up a menu to select Unicode glyphs. >> >> > > I'm pretty sure Droid Sans Mono Slashed doesn't have the glyphs in > question, and that you must actually have the noto or similar fonts > installed, with some part of the Gnome infrastructure finding them when > you select the glyphs. What does "fc-list | grep noto" show? If my own system is any guide, that may be an overly broad sort of question. $ fc-list | wc -l 2479 $ fc-list | grep noto | wc -l 1847 $ fc-list | grep -v noto | wc -l 632 Asking for the output of something that produces potentially thousands of lines may be slightly ill-advised (although asking the user to check that output and report back might be another story, and now that I look back it's not entirely clear which of the two you were intending). The above is with the following installed package set: dpkg -l "fonts-noto*" | grep ^ii ii fonts-noto-core 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" font families with large Unicode coverage (core) ii fonts-noto-extra20201225-1 all "No Tofu" font families with large Unicode coverage (extra) ii fonts-noto-mono 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" monospaced font family with large Unicode coverage ii fonts-noto-ui-core 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" font families with large Unicode coverage (UI core) I don't think I was aware that there are color versions, and I certainly don't think I'd want them. (FWIW, with this set installed, I see actual glyphs rather than the "tofu' for each of the four in Jonathan Dowland's .sig - although I can't actually quite tell what the second one is, even at full enlargement.) -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
libopencv4.5d-jni_4.5.4+dfsg-7_amd64.deb - broken?
Just updating a SID deswktop and getting: `Preparing to unpack .../libopencv4.5d-jni_4.5.4+dfsg-7_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libopencv4.5d-jni (4.5.4+dfsg-7) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libopencv4.5d-jni_4.5.4+dfsg-7_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/jni/libopencv_java454.so', which is also in package libopencv4.5-jni 4.5.4+dfsg-1 dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libopencv4.5d-jni_4.5.4+dfsg-7_amd64.deb' Before getting in any deeper, I was wondering if anybody else was experiencing similar. No bug appears to be reported so this could well be machine specific. Cheers! Harry.-- Sent with Tutanota, the secure & ad-free mailbox.
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 21:28:05 -0500 The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-11-27 at 21:08, Celejar wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:50:29 -0600 > > Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > >> * On 2021 26 Nov 11:36 -0600, Celejar wrote: > > >>> I finally got tired of seeing tofu for some of the glyphs in your sig, > >>> so I looked up their Unicode codepoints: > >> > >> Interestingly, I see the glyphs in Mutt running in Gnome Terminal and in > >> Vim as I edit this in the same Gnome Terminal. My font is one > >> installed locally, Droid Sans Mono Slashed which provides the zero > >> character with a slash. > >> > >> I know that there is keyboard sequence in Gnome Terminal (Ctl-Shift-E > >> then Space) to bring up a menu to select Unicode glyphs. > >> > >> > > > > I'm pretty sure Droid Sans Mono Slashed doesn't have the glyphs in > > question, and that you must actually have the noto or similar fonts > > installed, with some part of the Gnome infrastructure finding them when > > you select the glyphs. What does "fc-list | grep noto" show? > > If my own system is any guide, that may be an overly broad sort of > question. > > $ fc-list | wc -l >2479 Well, I didn't ask for that one. > $ fc-list | grep noto | wc -l >1847 Huh. Our systems must be very different: ~$ fc-list | grep noto | wc -l 1 ~$ fc-list | grep noto /usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/NotoColorEmoji.ttf: Noto Color Emoji:style=Regular > $ fc-list | grep -v noto | wc -l > 632 > > Asking for the output of something that produces potentially thousands > of lines may be slightly ill-advised (although asking the user to check > that output and report back might be another story, and now that I look > back it's not entirely clear which of the two you were intending). I confess that it simply didn't occur to me that some systems would be so different from mine. I concede that that may have been a naive assumption ;) > The above is with the following installed package set: > > dpkg -l "fonts-noto*" | grep ^ii > ii fonts-noto-core 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" font > families with large Unicode coverage (core) > ii fonts-noto-extra20201225-1 all "No Tofu" font > families with large Unicode coverage (extra) > ii fonts-noto-mono 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" monospaced > font family with large Unicode coverage > ii fonts-noto-ui-core 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" font > families with large Unicode coverage (UI core) > > I don't think I was aware that there are color versions, and I certainly > don't think I'd want them. > > (FWIW, with this set installed, I see actual glyphs rather than the > "tofu' for each of the four in Jonathan Dowland's .sig - although I > can't actually quite tell what the second one is, even at full > enlargement.) Celejar
Re: Apt pinning.
Tim Woodall wrote: > Can anyone tell me exactly what this Pin line I have actually does - or > even better point me to a webpage that has more than "if you want to do > this use this" type of example? > > (FTAOD I know that this isn't right and is inconsistent but before I > start changing it I want to really understand what it's currently doing) > > I have a local repository: > > Codename: buster > Components: main > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 19:42:12 + > Description: Debs for local installing > Label: local debs > Origin: local debs > Suite: oldstable > > And I have a pin (which I've failed to update since bullseye became > stable hence the a=stable) > > Package: * > Pin: release o=local debs,a=stable,n=buster,l=local debs,c=main,b=amd64 > Pin-Priority: 900 man apt_preferences # go ahead and read it, it's well-organized P >= 1000 causes a version to be installed even if this constitutes a downgrade of the package 990 <= P < 1000 causes a version to be installed even if it does not come from the target release, unless the installed version is more recent 500 <= P < 990 causes a version to be installed unless there is a version available belonging to the target release or the installed version is more recent 100 <= P < 500 causes a version to be installed unless there is a version available belonging to some other distribution or the installed version is more recent 0 < P < 100 causes a version to be installed only if there is no installed version of the package P < 0 prevents the version from being installed > What I want this to do is hold any package in my local repository even > if a newer version is present in debian. My local repository has patched > packages for various reasons - e.g. > linphone/oldstable,now 3.12.0-3+tjw10r1 amd64 [installed] Then 990...1000 is what you want. > I don't even know whether the options on that Pin line are AND or ORed > together. The example on the webpage has: > > Package: * > Pin: release v=2.2*,a=stable,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian > Pin-Priority: 1001 > > When debian went from v2.2 potato to v3 woody, would this pin stop > working? Because woody would be stable and potato oldstable at that > point. All the conditions must match. However, "stable" changes, whereas "woody" does not". > I'm trying to solve a (minor) problem I'm having during upgrades from > buster to bullseye where I've backported make from bullseye to buster. > So on my buster systems I have: > make/oldstable,now 4.3-4.1+tjw10r1 amd64 [installed] > > while once I've upgraded to bullseye I want to "downgrade" from my > backported package to make 4.3-4.1 and then continue to track bullseye. You will need a priority over 1000. I don't recommend this, but you get to keep all the pieces. -dsr-
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Celejar writes: > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font > installed, or do they see tofu? I use Gnus. I've never manually installed any emoji fonts (or any other fonts) but I see the glyphs, not the tofu. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA
Désabonnement
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Debian 11 on old Macbook
Hello, thanks for the help and suggestions: I don't need to press alt (option) to view the operating systems because I have rEFInd installed. However, 2 Debian icons appear, one OS X, and one Windows. If I click on the latter, a white writing on a black background appears with: MBR 12: and a flashing underscore. But I can't write anything. The Debian 2 takes me to Debian and OS X to the Apple operating system. Assuming I keep the 2 Debian, how do I get rid of the Windows symbol, since it doesn't lead anywhere, so it results useless? Thanks again Francesco
Apt pinning.
Can anyone tell me exactly what this Pin line I have actually does - or even better point me to a webpage that has more than "if you want to do this use this" type of example? (FTAOD I know that this isn't right and is inconsistent but before I start changing it I want to really understand what it's currently doing) I have a local repository: Codename: buster Components: main Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 19:42:12 + Description: Debs for local installing Label: local debs Origin: local debs Suite: oldstable And I have a pin (which I've failed to update since bullseye became stable hence the a=stable) Package: * Pin: release o=local debs,a=stable,n=buster,l=local debs,c=main,b=amd64 Pin-Priority: 900 What I want this to do is hold any package in my local repository even if a newer version is present in debian. My local repository has patched packages for various reasons - e.g. linphone/oldstable,now 3.12.0-3+tjw10r1 amd64 [installed] linphonec in buster has a bug that causes a core on answering a call. I've applied the patch locally. Were a new buster build to happen (unlikely now but not impossible if there's a serious security issue found) I'd want my local version to stay until I patch the new version. This pin has worked successfully for me throughout buster's lifetime - however when looking at it now to correct that a=stable I noticed that https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html suggests that I should be pinning at 990, not 900. Also, I don't know if this pin is working with a=stable or it's actually not doing anything useful any more. I cannot find anything that tells me how the Pin: line actually matches. I don't even know whether the options on that Pin line are AND or ORed together. The example on the webpage has: Package: * Pin: release v=2.2*,a=stable,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian Pin-Priority: 1001 When debian went from v2.2 potato to v3 woody, would this pin stop working? Because woody would be stable and potato oldstable at that point. I'm trying to solve a (minor) problem I'm having during upgrades from buster to bullseye where I've backported make from bullseye to buster. So on my buster systems I have: make/oldstable,now 4.3-4.1+tjw10r1 amd64 [installed] while once I've upgraded to bullseye I want to "downgrade" from my backported package to make 4.3-4.1 and then continue to track bullseye. I'm trying to work out what Pin line I want (ideally generic rather than package specific - dump has exactly the same feature) but at the same time I do not want my buster systems to install squid 4.6-1+deb10u7 (should it ever be created) over my patched 4.6-1+deb10u6+tjw10r1 but instead hold my patched package until I patch deb10u7. (ditto bullseye where I have squid/stable,now 4.13-10+tjw11r1) For now I just manually apt-get install make=4.3-4.1 to fix it. But if make built on buster had failed to work on bullseye then my package could have made a mess of the upgrade if any packages are using make during configuation. Tim.
Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder
On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 07:30:32PM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 26 Nov 2021 at 09:29:50 +0100, lists.deb...@netc.eu wrote: > Hello to all, I have a dual boot PC with Windows 10 and Debian 11 This PC has 2 drives, one SSD that has both operating systems and a HDD where I store all other files (documents, music, images, ...) The goal is to share this HDD between Windows and Debian. To do it, I added the following line to the fstab file: UUID=ACB23705B236D414 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults,umask=000 0 0 the folders lount without any problem to /mnt/windows, all with the correct permission settings (rwx) : $ ls -l /mnt/windows/ > > total 80 > > drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 14 nov. 20:20 '$RECYCLE.BIN' drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 24 nov. 15:59 CloudStation drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 21 nov. 11:44 Documents > > -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8192 25 juin 08:15 DumpStack.log.tmp drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 22 nov. 20:41 Images > > drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 24 nov. 11:53 Music drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8192 23 nov. 06:21 'System Volume Information' drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40960 21 nov. 22:22 Downloads drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 21 nov. 19:44 Videos My problem is that in some sub folders, I'm not getting the write ("w") permission. For example on the "Documents" one: $ ls -l /mnt/windows/Documents/ total 117 drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16384 24 nov. 15:59 User1 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 26 nov. 2020 Default.rdp -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 432 11 mars 2021 desktop.ini dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 40960 24 nov. 15:59 User2 drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16384 24 nov. 16:00 Public drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 24 nov. 15:59 User3 dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 20480 21 nov. 12:05 Scan -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18432 4 déc. 2016 Thumbs.db drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 16 nov. 23:13 'Unified Remote' Most of the folders are OK, but I ave User2 and San that doesn't have the write ("w") permission... Do you have any idea on whats going on? Thanks in advance for all the help, Berst regards, Marc > > lists.deb...@netc.eu - how do you manage to produce something as > completely undecipherable as what is is above? Please up your game. > > -- > Brian. > Reformatted minus a lot of the HTML to the best of my ability - hope this helps the list. Andy C
Re: subject
On Fri, 2021-11-26 at 19:16 +, zainalabd...@softkhana.com wrote: > This is the body That just what THEY want us to think.
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Celejar : > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font > installed, or do they see tofu? I too use Sylpheed and get tofu. I must have mistakenly assumed emoji fonts would be installed by default hence this being a Sylpheed limitation. Thanks for enlightening! Same issue with Sylpheed on Windows by the way, wonder if the same solution would work... Sijmen