Re: Difficulties with PS1.

2024-02-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 02:17:54PM +0700, Dmitry wrote: > Greetings! > > Why variable PS1 dose not change when set it before a command: > Like this: > A="a1" LANG="C.UTF-8" PS1="new" B="b2" bash --noprofile > > $A, $B, $LANG -changed, $PS1 - not. Most likely, you're setting PS1 in .bashrc or

Re: testing new sdm drive

2024-02-08 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 08.02.2024 12:14, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:/etc$ sudo smartctl --all -dscsi /dev/sdm smartctl 7.3 2022-02-28 r5338 [x86_64-linux-6.1.0-17-rt-amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Vendor:

Re: testing new sdm drive

2024-02-08 Thread Dan Ritter
David Christensen wrote: > > Page 1-16 states: > > USB 3.1 Gen 1 connectors (20-1 pin U31G1_12; U31G1_34) > > This connector allows you to connect a USB 3.1 Gen 1 module for additional > USB 3.1 Gen 1 front or rear panel ports. With an installed USB 3.1 Gen 1 > module, you can enjoy all the

Re: Home UPS recommendations

2024-02-08 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 8 Feb 2024 16:34 -, from cu...@free.fr (Curt): > I wonder if he could run the app on one of these virtual machines for > evaluation purposes: Using an evaluation copy of Windows with USB pass-through might be the easiest way to run APC's proprietary software. Or since that's an option,

Re: testing new sdm drive

2024-02-08 Thread David Christensen
On 2/7/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:/etc$ sudo smartctl --all -dscsi /dev/sdm smartctl 7.3 2022-02-28 r5338 [x86_64-linux-6.1.0-17-rt-amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Vendor:

D12 Installer does not recognize rtl8xxxu wifi

2024-02-08 Thread Felix Natter
Dear debian-users, I put this on a stick and booted it: debian-live-12.4.0-amd64-gnome.iso When I boot the live option, the network is immediately loaded and I can connect to a WIFI network. However, if I use the same stick (or one with debian 12.4.0 netinst) with the installation option, the

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 11:14:24AM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > On 2/8/24 10:36, Andy Smith wrote: > > USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious > > computing. Many people will disagree with that statement and say > > they use it all the time and it is fine. They will keep saying

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:36 +, Andy Smith wrote: > USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious > computing. Many people will disagree with that statement and say > they use it all the time and it is fine.  I am clearly in the latter camp. This mail is delivered via a Raspberry

Re: Home UPS recommendations (Was Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after)

2024-02-08 Thread Curt
On 2024-02-08, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 15:29:21 + > Andy Smith wrote: > >> I do not overly want to buy a Windows licence, run it >> in a VM and pass USB through to that VM just to try this. > > You could try wine. You might need the more recent crossover-office, > which is

Re: D12 Installer does not recognize rtl8xxxu wifi

2024-02-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 19:24:35 +0100 Felix Natter wrote: > If I start a shell from the installer, I can see that the necessary > module rtl8xxxu is loaded (the same one that is loaded in live > option). So I guess it is a firmware issue. How can I get an > installer with non-free firmware (if that

Re: Home UPS recommendations (Was Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 06:55:04PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > So, I must admit, I am quite tempted by BX1600MI which would cost me > about £183. The equivalent spec in the Pro range is more than twice > this price. [ TL;DR: While free software like apcupsd or nut support all APC models

Re: Home UPS recommendations (Was Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after)

2024-02-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 15:29:21 + Andy Smith wrote: > I do not overly want to buy a Windows licence, run it > in a VM and pass USB through to that VM just to try this. You could try wine. You might need the more recent crossover-office, which is proprietary (but contributes greatly to wine).

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 11:57 AM Ralph Aichinger wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:36 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious > > computing. Many people will disagree with that statement and say > > they use it all the time and it is fine. > > I am

Re: testing new sdm drive

2024-02-08 Thread David Christensen
On 2/8/24 10:24, David Christensen wrote: On 2/7/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:/etc$ sudo smartctl --all -dscsi /dev/sdm ... scsiModePageOffset: response length too short, resp_len=4 offset=4 bd_len=0 scsiModePageOffset: response length too short, resp_len=4 offset=4 bd_len=0  >>

Re: testing new sdm drive

2024-02-08 Thread gene heskett
On 2/8/24 07:22, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 08.02.2024 12:14, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:/etc$ sudo smartctl --all -dscsi /dev/sdm smartctl 7.3 2022-02-28 r5338 [x86_64-linux-6.1.0-17-rt-amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke,

Re: D12 Installer does not recognize rtl8xxxu wifi

2024-02-08 Thread Franco Martelli
On 08/02/24 at 19:24, Felix Natter wrote: Dear debian-users, I put this on a stick and booted it: debian-live-12.4.0-amd64-gnome.iso When I boot the live option, the network is immediately loaded and I can connect to a WIFI network. However, if I use the same stick (or one with debian 12.4.0

Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious computing. Many people will disagree with that statement and say they use it all the time and it is fine. They will

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 10:36, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious computing. Many people will disagree with that statement and say they use it all

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/02/2024 22:36, Andy Smith wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious computing. Do you mean that a proper backup drive should use uas (USB Attached

Re: testing new sdm drive

2024-02-08 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 09.02.2024 00:23, gene heskett wrote: Looks neat. Any chance this will crash my machine? I have other design work going on, and I'd hate to have to start from scratch. Well, it will consume CPU cycles for sure, at least to calculate md5 hashes and perform I/O on the target drive and RAM. I

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Test it with Validrive. > https://www.grc.com/validrive.htm Looks like proprietary software for Windows. Stefan

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 16:16, Andy Smith wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 03:56:19PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: On 2/8/24 15:43, Andy Smith wrote: I wouldn't have much issue with taking a USB drive out of its caddy to get the SATA drive from inside, except that it would have to be an amazingly good deal to make

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 16:28, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 04:22:49PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 08:43:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: I really do mean all forms of USB that come over a USB port. That line was meant to read I really do mean all forms of storage

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Richmond
gene heskett writes: > Well the 2T memory everybody was curious about 3 weeks ago got here early. > > From dmesg after plugging one in: > [629240.916163] usb 1-2: new high-speed USB device number 39 using xhci_hcd > [629241.066221] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=048d, > idProduct=1234,

Re: Drag-and-drop actions broken for Firefox 122.0.1 under Wayland

2024-02-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/02/2024 09:41, Jake Herrmann wrote: I'm running Debian 12 (bookworm), using GNOME 43.9 under Wayland. I installed Firefox 122.0.1 from the Mozilla binaries as described on the Debian Wiki [1]. Drag-and-drop actions with Firefox seem to be broken under Wayland. Does drag-n-drop work for

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 03:56:19PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > On 2/8/24 15:43, Andy Smith wrote: > > I wouldn't have much issue with taking a USB drive out of its caddy > > to get the SATA drive from inside, except that it would have to be > > an amazingly good deal to make it worth voiding the

Qemu malfunction

2024-02-08 Thread Leandro Noferini
Ciao a tutti, I have a home server with openmediavault on (so, debian oldstable) whith installed the support for virtualization. From some days I have a malfunction because an image of a debian running inside is stopping always. If I try to start it after some minutes I get this error in wirsh

Re: testing new sdm drive

2024-02-08 Thread Linux-Fan
Alexander V. Makartsev writes: On 08.02.2024 12:14, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:/etc$ sudo smartctl --all -dscsi /dev/sdm smartctl 7.3 2022-02-28 r5338 [x86_64-linux-6.1.0-17-rt-amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke,

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 02:20:59PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 11:57 AM Ralph Aichinger wrote: > > How does a breaking USB disk differ from a breaking SATA disk? > > I may be mistaken, but I believe AS is talking about USB thumb drives, > SDcards and the like. I

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 15:43, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 02:20:59PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 11:57 AM Ralph Aichinger wrote: How does a breaking USB disk differ from a breaking SATA disk? I may be mistaken, but I believe AS is talking about USB thumb

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 04:22:49PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 08:43:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > I really do mean all forms of USB that come over a USB port. > > That line was meant to read > > I really do mean all forms of storage that come over a USB port.

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 12:23:45AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 08/02/2024 22:36, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 > > > > USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 05:40:54PM +0100, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:36 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > I learned not to go there a long time ago and have seen plenty of > > reminders along the way from others' misfortunes to not ever go > > there again myself. > > How

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 08:43:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > I really do mean all forms of USB that come over a USB port. That line was meant to read I really do mean all forms of storage that come over a USB port. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 15:35, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 12:23:45AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 08/02/2024 22:36, Andy Smith wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 USB storage is for phones and cameras

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 04:00:01PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > I have been using USB attached HDDs and SSDs for 10 years now and > have never had one unexpectedly go off line. Your postings > suggest you don't know what your talking about. Okay then. Despite this uncharitable comment, I do

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 18:02:36 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Test it with Validrive. > > https://www.grc.com/validrive.htm > > Looks like proprietary software for Windows. badblocks, available in a Debian repo near you, might be a suitable replacement. -- Does anybody read signatures any

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Richmond
Charles Curley writes: > On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 18:02:36 -0500 > Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > Test it with Validrive. >> > https://www.grc.com/validrive.htm >> >> Looks like proprietary software for Windows. > > badblocks, available in a Debian repo near you, might be a suitable > replacement.

Re: Unidentified flying subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 09 Feb 2024 04:30:14 + Richmond wrote: > So you need to store a lot of data and then verify that it has written > with 'diff'. Yeah. I've been thinking about this. Yeah, I know: dangerous. What I would do is write a function to write 4096 bytes of repeating data, the data being

Re: testing new sdm drive

2024-02-08 Thread David Christensen
On 2/8/24 11:23, gene heskett wrote: On 2/8/24 07:22, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: This is how I would test it. ... Looks neat. Any chance this will crash my machine? I have other design work going on, and I'd hate to have to start from scratch. Do not use a production computer for drive

Re: testing new sdm drive

2024-02-08 Thread David Christensen
On 2/8/24 12:36, Linux-Fan wrote: Alexander V. Makartsev writes: From here on I'd suggest trying the tools from package `f3`. Thank you for the suggestion -- I was hoping somebody knew of a FOSS Debian package that can validate drive capacity: https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/f3

Re: testing new sdm drive

2024-02-08 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 01:11:05AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 09.02.2024 00:23, gene heskett wrote: > > Looks neat. Any chance this will crash my machine? I have other design > > work going on, and I'd hate to have to start from scratch. > Well, it will consume CPU cycles for sure,