Re: Out of HD space?
If i type in df i get a 0 available space on my device. However there is a difference of 40~50 megs between what is used and what actually exists. Is this because of lack of inodes? What gives? This space is reserved by filesystem for the exclusive use of the superuser just to have some space to clean up the mess :) Alex Y. TIA, Johannes Martinez -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ | _ 7 ''' \() (O O) / \ \ +---oOO--(_)+ |\ __/ -- | Alexander Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || | http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | ( / +-oOO---+ \ / |__|__| ) /(_ || || | (___)ooO Ooo \___) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: terminology/concept questions
David Miles wrote: C shell, borne shell, ?? shell, etc. In Linux (and other UNIX syyle systems) each user has a choice of which shell to use. sh, the Bourne shell is the original shell and is used for the shell scripts in /etc/init.d which initialize the system at boot time. bash, the born again shell, is the freeware version of sh which was created to circumvent licensing/copyright problems and is, in fact the shell that's really used as sh on Linux and other freeware Unices. ksh, the Korn shell, is an extension of sh - that is it will happily run sh shell scripts, and provides additional features; zsh is a similar shell. csh was designed to provide more c language like control (I'm not a fan thereof and can't privide any more detail than that, but csh may not be able to run sh scripts and vice-versa. tcsh is an extension to csh as I understand. tclsh is a tcl language shell. rsh was once the restricted sh and is now usually the remote operating shell. There are other shells which I can't think of just now that have been created to offer special features; and then there are the various flavors of window managers that run under X which are also shell languages in some sense, in that they provide a user interface to various kernel services. HTH in simple terms, would someone briefly explain to me what these terms mean, please? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someday soon I really MUST find a way to piss away a LOT of bandwidth on this .sig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian got slammed
Perhaps derogating this guy's views as stupid or silly serves no constructive purpose, especially when there is some validity there. Where? I did my Debian install from my DOS hard drive, totally diskless. I have no experience with Debian CDs, but feedback here seems to be favorable. I myself used 'dpkg' from the command line until I found that dselect could easily install batches of software, whole upgrades even, all at once, and that it could even prevent dependency frustration I had experienced earlier. The only bad thing about dselect, imho, is that its slow. But since I use a 486, I suppose that could be the culprit. ;) late. -- Jason Daniels -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- BELIEVE THE LIE --- Linux: The choice of a GNU generation. Winblows 95: The world's best-selling computer virus. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian got slammed
From: Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I personally prefer the Debian machine, but the programmers
say the RedHat is better, for options, {technical blabber here}, and
bootable CD.
We fixed the bootable CD issue. The $4.95 Official 2-CD Set is bootable.
options probably means a simple front-end on the package manager, right?
We're working on that. Please elaborate on the technical blabber.
I sent a friendly reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED], pointing out some
technical errors.
Why does he like Slackware more than RH _or_ Debian? He probably doesn't
get the concept of package dependencies.
Thanks
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CDE-like window manager
Anyone know of a CDE/Motif like window manager for Debian? I've gotten used to my CDE desktop at work. Stephen --- Normality is a statistical illusion. -- me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
cd now working
This means you finally got the CD drive working? Another one, actually. I plugged it into the controller, inserted the module, and mounted with no problem. THe other drive is indeed bad :( Gee, it was all so easy with a working piece :) However, it does strike me as a problem that the bad drive can hang the system. Is this a bug, or acceptable behavior? rick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Second Ethernet Card
I have recompiled the kernel to support IP forwarding. One of two 3C509 Cards that I have on my machine works. What is required to get my second Ethernet Card working? I have tried to add the append=ether=11,0x320.eth1 statement to lilo.conf but it doesn't make it work. Any ideas? Thanks, Drazen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
libgpc problem
When I attempted to install libgpc2, I got the following error: ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so (No such file or directory), skipping I have two questions. 1. What is pascal doing with Xwin libs? 2. What am I missing that it can't find? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: setting desktops with fvwm2
Randy Edwards wrote: The question I have is B) how can I get my programs to open up on Desk 5. Have you tried setting the geometry? I can get emacs to start up in the second row by stating: emacs -geometry 99x31+0+768 Of course, this gets misplaced it I start the xserver at other than 1024x768. -- ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What programs make disks spin up?
Andy Spiegl writes: I read that when a disk has been running for a very long time it sort of dug a ditch into the ball bearing. And when it spins up after a shutdown chances are high it won't find that 'ditch' or stumbles across it and fails. You read wrong. I doubt anyone has made a disk that doesn't use air bearings for decades. John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: enable 16bit and 24bit
On 26 Jun 1997 21:25:39 +0200 Emilio Lopes ([EMAIL PROTECTED] nchen.DE) wrote: BM Maybe the X people could work on better interaction between BM programs and the X server to add this later. From what I've heard, this is something non-trivial. Only SGIs have a X-server that can support different depths simultaneously. The accelX server is supposed to be able to do that. At least that's what they claim on their page. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Second Ethernet Card
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:12:00 EDT Lalovic, Drazen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have recompiled the kernel to support IP forwarding. One of two 3C509 Cards that I have on my machine works. What is required to get my second Ethernet Card working? I have tried to add the append=ether=11,0x320.eth1 statement to lilo.conf but it doesn't make it work. Any ideas? The 3c509 driver in 2.0.30 can only cope with one card. You need to patch it to get more than one. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What programs make disks spin up?
Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Why do I need apache on my laptop? Why do some car owners think they need nitrous and a super-charger in their Pinto? Don't feel alone running apache on your laptop. I carry a development copy of all our web-based support (which runs on Apache) around on mine. Stephen --- Normality is a statistical illusion. -- me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: general protection: 0000
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:38:38 PDT Udjat. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have been getting general protection: for a long time an I really want to get to the bottom of this. It seems to allways be kswapd. This log came from a less than 24 hour clean install of debian. version 1.2.10. Now its up to the current unstable version. I had the system to the unstable version before and it also gave be the general protection errors. Which *kernel* version do you have installed (uname -a) ? Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Installing Debian 1.2
Finally, an answer. I get to the point in cfdisk where I can make it
bootable ( I am using a DOS partition on my second HD), creating the
primary area. Then What? I have 64 meg of RAM, so I don't think I need
the cache area.
I assume you mean that you created a primary Linux partition. Great.
Write the table changes ('W' I think) and exit cfdisk. The Debian install
program will proceed to format and mount the new partition.
BTW, the cfdisk.txt is virtually un-readable, no matter what I use to
open it. I will get the html file, if it is any better.
hth
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Re: turning off idle IDE drive
On Jun 26, Alex Yukhimets wrote Hi. I noticed recent discussion on how to spin off idle SCSI hard drive. Could anyone point me to some information on how to do it with IDE drives? Hi, try the hdparm package. Read about the hdparm -S option in the manpage. Greetings, Christian -- Christian Meder, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the railroad to me ? I never go to see Where it ends. It fills a few hollows, And makes banks for the swallows, It sets the sand a-blowing, And the blackberries a-growing. (Henry David Thoreau) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Reply about fvwm2 window placement
In fvwm2 and now in afterstep, I have four different desktops. I have my xconsole window pop up in my upper-right hand corner desktop by having this in my .Xdefaults: *xconsole*geometry: 500x100+1500+0 You can achieve this by doing -geometry 500x100+1500+0 for your X application. I have this property in my .Xdefaults and then just have xconsole in my .xinitrc. Dennis + dpk [EMAIL PROTECTED] + work : 517.353.8892 + + Systems Undergrad + pager: 517.222.5875 + + Division of Engineering Computing Services + + -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Second Ethernet Card
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Lalovic, Drazen wrote: : I have recompiled the kernel to support IP forwarding. One of two 3C509 : Cards that I have on my machine works. What is required to get my second : Ethernet Card working? : I have tried to add the append=ether=11,0x320.eth1 statement to : lilo.conf but it doesn't make it work. Any ideas? : Read the Multiple Ethernetcards FAQ: append=ether=0,0,eth0 ether=0,0,eth1 Remco. -- // Remco van de Meent // email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // www: http://oloon.student.utwente.nl //Never make any mistaeks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: gs-aladdin pdf files
On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, AUBORD Alain wrote: This is not surprising. The encrypted PDF use non public algorithm with a secret key from Adobe. Unlicensed PDF writer cannot decode it. The problem is that even if I save the file as postscript, using the acroread package (I suppose it is licensed since it can read the file), the final ps file can not be read by gs. Is this the same problem ? At end of /usr/lib/ghostscript/4.03/gs_init.ps add a line: /Default currenthalftone /Halftone defineresource pop Mirek -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 - partitioning matters
The md-layout-mini-howto (or something with a similar name) has some fine background reading. After reading it, I decided to put /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib on the same partition, but different from the /usr partition. I am surprised to see that with Debian installation you require /usr/local direc tory. I am new to Debian (not to LInux), have a 1.3 installed and my /usr/local is completly empty. I believe that dpkg installs everything in /usr/lib. Is ther e a way, using dpkg, to install certain packages in /usr/local ? Thanks, == Eddie Katz == [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Second Ethernet Card
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. DO YOU KNOW THE PATCH NAME? THANKS, DRAZEN -- From: Philippe Troin To: Lalovic, Drazen Subject: Re: Second Ethernet Card Date: Thursday, June 26, 1997 3:45PM On Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:12:00 EDT Lalovic, Drazen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have recompiled the kernel to support IP forwarding. One of two 3C509 Cards that I have on my machine works. What is required to get my second Ethernet Card working? I have tried to add the append=ether=11,0x320.eth1 statement to lilo.conf but it doesn't make it work. Any ideas? The 3c509 driver in 2.0.30 can only cope with one card. You need to patch it to get more than one. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: general protection: 0000
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Philippe Troin wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:38:38 PDT Udjat. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have been getting general protection: for a long time an I really want to get to the bottom of this. It seems to allways be kswapd. This log came from a less than 24 hour clean install of debian. version 1.2.10. Now its up to the current unstable version. I had the system to the unstable version before and it also gave be the general protection errors. Which *kernel* version do you have installed (uname -a) ? Phil, currently Linux bitgate 2.0.29 #1 Mon May 26 09:25:51 EST 1997 i586 unknown from the debian installer disks (from unstable) but normaly I run 2.0.30. Best file compression around: rm -fr / = 100% compression ,, / ( _(-)- .' ^^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- Bitburn Access. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: enable 16bit and 24bit
BM == Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BM On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, David Puryear wrote: [...] This way I can do Ctrl-Alt + or - to change depth. I have 1 meg on video card. [...] BM Maybe the X people could work on better interaction between BM programs and the X server to add this later. From what I've heard, this is something non-trivial. Only SGIs have a X-server that can support different depths simultaneously. -- Emilio C. Lopes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Official Debian 1.3 CD-ROM/Release Methodology
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote: Friends, Is there yet an Official 1.3 CD-ROM available from anywhere? Talk Paul Wade of Greenbush on this list. He very generously donated a pair of 1.3 cds to our project here. I also saw a release of the official Debian 2CD masters on comp.os.linux.announce this morning for $4.95 US. Check it out. Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ecl.udel.edu/~lowe/ * Good Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the Park. Bad Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear. * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mount, noatime option
Hi,
kernel 2.0.30 supports the 'noatime' option for a filesystem, right?
If compiled with that option, yes. Did you answer yes to
that question? (I don't think (though I'm not sure) the default
debian kernel has it compiled in).
(inode's access time is not updated after reads).
mount_2.6d-1.deb doesn't seem to recognize this option (moount -o
noatime), or what is the right option.
Does appear to be the correct option (man mount).
Does anyone have this working?
Sorry, no.
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Re: Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 - partitioning matters
On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, Eddie Katz wrote: I am surprised to see that with Debian installation you require /usr/local direc tory. I am new to Debian (not to LInux), have a 1.3 installed and my /usr/local is completly empty. I believe that dpkg installs everything in /usr/lib. Is ther e a way, using dpkg, to install certain packages in /usr/local ? /usr/local is for programs you have compiled and/or installed yourself and that are not registered with the debian packaging system. If the programs are used by only one user, you could also install them in that user's $HOME. If you want to know all about the reasons and philosophy behind the organization of the filesystem(s), just go ahead and read the: - debian policy manual; - debian programmers manual; - filesystem standard; You can find these sort of documents in the debian-doc package. Cheers, Joost -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
LD_PRELOAD=lib using ldopen: can't resolve symbol '_dl_open'
I'm trying to LD_PRELOAD a library that in turn uses ldopen.
this works OK, as long as I don't try to run (with LD_PRELOAD
set) any binaries that use libdl themselves.
Should this be possible? If so, what am I doing wrong?
$ cat libfoo.c
#include dlfcn.h
void foo(){
void *handle=handle = dlopen(/lib/libc.so.6, RTLD_LAZY);
dlclose(handle);
}
$ gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,libfoo.so.0 -o libfoo.so.0.0 -fPIC libfoo.c -ldl
$ export LD_PRELOAD=./libfoo.so.0.0
$ bash
bash: can't resolve symbol '_dl_open'
bash: can't resolve symbol '_dl_close'
bash: can't resolve symbol '_dl_catch_error'
$ ls -d .
./
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Re: cd now working
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote: This means you finally got the CD drive working? Another one, actually. I plugged it into the controller, inserted the module, and mounted with no problem. THe other drive is indeed bad :( Gee, it was all so easy with a working piece :) However, it does strike me as a problem that the bad drive can hang the system. Is this a bug, or acceptable behavior? If the scsi card is well-designed and functioning properly, this is unacceptable behavior for device driver software. A bad peripheral on the scsi side of the card shouldn't lock a system. There is a rare exception where the initial access to a bad component triggers a power supply overload. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Special Linux CD offer + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: message problems...
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Re: putting lilo on the mbr, help please
On Jun 23, Ed Urenda wrote Hello, any help with the folowing would be greatly appreciated: I have an ide with debian 1.3 and win 95 on it and decided that the rewrite_table option in lilo would be the easiest way to dual-boot the system. The recompilation of lilo with the rewrite_table option was successful, but when I add a section for win95 in lilo.conf and run /sbin/lilo it complains that lilo must reside on the mbr (i assume that win95 has taken the mbr). How can I put lilo back on the mbr? You need to use the 'boot' command, I believe. Something like boot = /dev/hda in the global section of your lilo.conf. But please doublecheck with the lilo manual before adding that to your lilo.conf. Christian pgpnDukwrNYKf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Spam filtering and mailagent
Paul Wade wrote: I have a problem in that spammers who got busted are trying for revenge by posting in usenet as [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. I am getting a lot of junk mail and complaints from people who can't read headers and see the obvious. I have 2 questions: 1) Where can I automatically redirect mail for Jena, Aleisha, etc.? I had thought of redirecting it all to a spamsite autoresponder since it all comes with reply-to addresses that are invalid or autoresponders. Does anyone have a favorite destination address? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) No, but whatever it is, it should be on your localhost -- so as to not waste any more bandwidth... 2) Is there an easy way in pine to change the From and Reply-to headers for a message or two? I want to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the few times I post anything. Consider [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- to stop spam at the source ... It will help to get even more of these people disconnected when they mail to such an address. OTOH you're right, of course: simply ignoring them doesn't make them go away. Sorry, can't help you with pine... -- Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
problems with dosemu, fvwm95, xbase
Hi, I'm running Debian 1.3 with some packages from unstable (aka hamm), eg. libc6, xfree 3.3 and several packages depending on it. I noticed the following (minor) problems: 1) DOSEmu I installed DOSEmu 0.66.6 and when I run it as an ordinary user I always get dos: error in loading shared libraries /lib/libm.so.5: undefined symbol: __getfpucw This does not occur if I start DOSEmu as root. But then there's another error. DOSEmu complains about missing hdimage.first. After copying hdimage to hdimage.first it works. Well, fdos seems to have problems with lredir. I only get garbage on drive d: (which should actually be the whole linux fs). BTW, why does DOSEmu use libm.so.5 AND libm.so.6 (as reported by ldd)? Is this really normal? 2) fvwm95 I had a problem with fvwm95-2.0.42a-10. It didn't contain the file system.fvwmrc95 in /etc/X11/fvwm95, so I copied system.fvwmrc95.dpkg-dist. Yesterday I installed fvwm95-2.0.42a-10.2 because I thought the bug was corrected. But unfortunately after installation all fvwm modules from /usr/lib/X11/fvwm95-2 were gone. 3) xfree Some programs (I think dot-file is one of them, others are motifnls and xcompat) based on xfree don't recognise that xfree is properly installed because no package seems to provide X11R6 or XbaseR6, respectively. Should I file a bug report on each of these points or are there some simple solutions? Thanks, Ulf -- #include signature -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Distributer in UK?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], writes: ... Hence I am interested in purchasing the Debian 1.3 version CDs. Does anyone know of any CDs distributers/sellers in UK that sell these CDs? Please kindly let me know . I don't know of anyone in the UK. I got a set from Christian Schwarz at a cost of 91DM (about £35) including postage, and they arrived within 3 days. Furthermore, he cuts a new set each time, so you are as up to date as you can be! See http://www.schwarz-online.com/cs-software/debian-cdrom/index.html -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://homepages.enterprise.net/olly In case of connection troubles, try [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. pgpB2wIbVFSOa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Strange IP address in mail header
John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've received some spam, and somthing in the headers made me wonder: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 25 20:11:35 1997 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mailhost.ExposeInfidelity.com (alt.ExposeInfidelity.com (206.1.562.999)) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id ^^^ HERE ^ [snip] Is this the first Received header? The one I got had the ones below as well, and this one is almost certainly fake: Received: from holland.it.earthlink.net (port 55887@holland-c.it.earthlink.net) by csc.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V5.1-8 #17207) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:09:37 +1200 Received: from smtp.earthlink.net (Cust44.Max1.Washington2.DC.MS.UU.NET [153.34.0.44]) by holland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08128; Sat, 24 May 1997 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.ExposeInfidelity.com (alt.ExposeInfidelity.com (206.1.562.999)) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA07467 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 24 May 1997 12:49:17 -0600 (EST) Blocking earthlink.net should keep it out though. -- Carey Evans * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our mail program accidentally deleted our remove list. - Real quote from UCE -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Changing the host name
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi, On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Nils Rennebarth wrote: What did the trick for me: 1) change /etc/hostname then say hostname --file /etc/hostname 2) change IP-address entry in /etc/hosts 3) rerun sendmailconfig 4) change /etc/resolv.conf if domain changed too 5) change /etc/mailname (Did I forget something?) I believe you should /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart so that files like /var/adm/messages and others change consequently - ---[/var/adm/messages] Jun 15 00:36:51 debian pppd[20619]: Terminating on signal 15. Jun 15 00:36:57 debian pppd[20619]: Connection terminated. Jun 15 00:36:58 debian pppd[20619]: Exit. Jun 15 01:52:38 debian syslogd: exiting on signal 15 Jun 15 01:52:40 belsebub syslogd 1.3-0#11: restart. Jun 15 01:52:40 belsebub kernel: klogd 1.3-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Jun 15 01:52:42 belsebub kernel: Loaded 2650 symbols from /System.map. - -- No reboot is necessary. no, you're right :) agur, txakar == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: Public key - http://www.redestb.es/personal/inakitxu/linux.html iQCVAwUBM7KXfEghrGduKruBAQHA4wP/flXtA/4pLMO1MIf7xwdS2aPFAbLkJE7y Lc8eTSiafguxEgTLobrAujrogBc8I5bELRCp+UtwpFAbpI3ezwd6xIEGs6rK1SDn y7hD+A19YmsB2YSEKhkC4gUMhqasYvoHpGKesxmv9gHZVj7nYDJ76Y7DHoWJLbko /39u3fUjebs= =48L0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel and upgrade question
On Jun 26, Gary L. Dolan wrote I run 2.0.27 here, and am thinking about going to .29 or .30. As an avid reader of this group, I see occasional problems about the .30 kernel. Also, I am bound and determined to move to debian 1.3 in the near future (I will be starting a new job next week and my time will shrink dramatically.) Anyway, my questions.: 1) Is there any advantage to going to either .29 or .30 first? Hi, I think 2.0.30 provides SYN cookies which help against the SYN attack (flooding your computer with requests making it impossible to remote login, etc.) mostly important for ISPs. I'm running 2.0.30 since a month or so without any problems: standard setup (IDE disks, PPP, soundcard, ATAPI cdrom). I read some problems about SCSI devices with 2.0.30 (I think it was Adaptec controllers). 2) What is the best order of installing 1.3? I have seen a couple of suggestions in this group, and I have the installation suggestions from the debian site, and they are not the same. The debian installation suggestions from the ftp site worked fine for me. If you upgrade LaTex to TeTex I would recommend the commandline method which is proposed by the preinstallation script. Greetings, Christian -- Christian Meder, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the railroad to me ? I never go to see Where it ends. It fills a few hollows, And makes banks for the swallows, It sets the sand a-blowing, And the blackberries a-growing. (Henry David Thoreau) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
WARNING: g77_0.5.20-1 buggy
Here, we have some problems with g77_0.5.20-1. It breaks code in special cases if optimization levels other than -O0 are given. g77.plan (fetched from gate.gnu.ai.mit.edu via anomynous ftp) says: [...] BETA TEST STATUS (last updated 1997-06-24) The latest public beta-test release of g77 is: g77-0.5.20 (1997-03-01 00:20) -- the front end gcc-2.7.2.2 -- the back end Version 0.5.20 is known to have many bugs at this point (see Bugs pending or being on below), and, in particular, the version of gcc in this version (2.7.2.2.f.2) has some bugs that afflict a few source packages out there. Users of 0.5.20 should do one of the following: - Uninstall 0.5.20, replace it with 0.5.19.1, including gcc-2.7.2.2.f.1 (which is built by 0.5.19.1). - Leave 0.5.20 largely installed, but replace the cc1 (and cc1plus) executables with those from 0.5.19.1 (versions 2.7.2.2.f.1) or with those from a vanilla gcc-2.7.2.2 distribution. This is more risky, in that g77 users still could encounter the bugs, but at least they get the new features in 0.5.20. [...] And indeed, going back to g77_0.5.19.1-1.deb and gcc_2.7.2.1-4.deb from Debian-1.2.18 seems to solve the problem. I haven't filed a bug concerning this against the g77 package because it definitely is an upstream problem and downgrading as specified above seems to be a workaround. But maybe someone feels differently or you, Galen, may have an idea what to do about it. Regards, Andree -- | Institute of Geophysics phone: +49 40 4123 4389 ANDREE LEIDENFROST | University of Hamburg fax: +49 40 4123 5441 Geophysicist | Bundesstrasse 55 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | D-20146 Hamburgwww: www.app-geoph.dkrz.de -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
remote shell command authentication ...
I'm having trouble with this between two debian machines. I am not running PAM at all and have netstd 2.10-1 on one and 2.12-1 on the other. libc5 are 5.4.17-1 and 5.4.20-1 respectively. I have (after some frustration with explicit entries, as well as ALL: ALL) removed hosts.deny and hosts.allow on both machines. I have a + in hosts.equiv as well as .rhosts (just for testing until I get this to work). The permissions have been 644, 411, 600, 655, 444, 555, and no change. rsh gives permission denied, rlogin and telnet -r (or -a) both prompt for a password. rexec gags altogether. Scenerio: host A is the lower versioned hosts (1.2 mostly), and host B is the higher versioned host (1.3 pre-release). rsh, rlogin, telnet are the same between hosts. rexec from A to B hangs, and from B to A gives a rexec: Error in rexec system call: Illegal seek error. The /etc/host entries have been a list of hostname hostname.FQDN hostname.NISdomain in every possible combination on both sides with no difference in behavior. Both systems can rsh to a Solaris machine with no problem. I've read the rlogind, rshd, and telnetd manpages and am clueless. Any ideas would be appreciated. I'm not currently subscribed, but am trying to get subscribed to debian-user-digest. Please CC me in your response at either [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my new address) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or both). Incidentally, the web based subscription service doesn't appear to be working. Also, the archives are pretty old. Thanks in advance. Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 011-81-3-3437-7967 - Tokyo, Japan -- *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with sendfax?
Jens B. Jorgensen writes:
Check your config files in /etc/mgetty, are you sure that you
have a fax modem? I'm not a modem expert but I seem to remember
that there are some modems that cannot fax - or at least cannot
fax at level 3 which is needed for sendfax (USR SportSter might
be such a modem).
Actually, the problem with fax modems and sendfax is not generally
that they can't handle group 3 fax files, but that they don't
support Class 2 or Class 2.0 fax transmission. My fax-modem only
Err, that's what I tried to say/remember. I'm not a modem expert...
supports Class 1. I use mgetty and although since it does not support
Class 1 I cannot receive faxes, I can send them easily with the
excellent efax package.
Sendfax can only handle Class 2, IIRC Class 1 is time critical which
cannot guaranteed under unix.
That said, your problem may not be that it doesn't support class
2/2.0 (which mgetty requires, as I have stated). Since you have
logging turned on ('-x 5') why don't you post the log here? You should
find it in /var/log/mgetty.
NOTE: USR Sportster (at least my 28.8) supports class 1 2.0. If you
want to see what classes your modem supports, get into a COM program
(in DOS/Win/Linux doesn't matter) and give your modem the command:
AT+FCLASS=?
It should print a list of what classes it supports.
Ah, interesting, hopefully I'm also allowed to use minicom, cu or
kermit as I have Linux installed and I'm not going to install Dos :-)
Fine, it can handle 2.0, too. I might want to expand our Fax service.
Thanks a lot!!!
Regards
Joey
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Re: cd now working
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Paul Wade wrote: :On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote: : : This means you finally got the CD drive working? : : Another one, actually. I plugged it into the controller, inserted the : module, and mounted with no problem. THe other drive is indeed bad :( : Gee, it was all so easy with a working piece :) : : However, it does strike me as a problem that the bad drive can hang the : system. Is this a bug, or acceptable behavior? : :If the scsi card is well-designed and functioning properly, this is :unacceptable behavior for device driver software. A bad peripheral on the :scsi side of the card shouldn't lock a system. There is a rare exception :where the initial access to a bad component triggers a power supply :overload. However, there are many, many devices out there that are broken out of the box. 3Com is famous for this. There are plenty of poorly designed SCSI hbas, and devices out there ... In short, many times there is a software problem, but the software is on a chip on the device. Kinda hard to fix that if you're joe average user. I'm not disputing that some drivers could be better written. On the other hand, isn't it problematic to fix stupid hardware using software? (Case in point: CMD 640 IDE interface. They work in Linux, but they're butt slow, since CMD hadn't the foggiest idea what they were doing when they designed the chipset. At least I can *use* a CMD 640 with Linux ... Win95 really gets excited when it finds one present) :+--+ :+ Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + :+ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + :+--+ :+ http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Special Linux CD offer + :+--+ : -- Nathan Norman:Hostmaster CFNI:[EMAIL PROTECTED] finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key and other stuff Key fingerprint = CE 03 10 AF 32 81 18 58 9D 32 C2 AB 93 6D C4 72 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: cd now working
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote: This means you finally got the CD drive working? Another one, actually. I plugged it into the controller, inserted the module, and mounted with no problem. THe other drive is indeed bad :( Gee, it was all so easy with a working piece :) However, it does strike me as a problem that the bad drive can hang the system. Is this a bug, or acceptable behavior? Without sounding to contradictory, I don't think it is a bug, but it isn't acceptable behavior either. While there are many kinds of hardware failure that will bring the machine down reguardless of the OS, and these problems certainly can't be fixed by a more robust driver. There are many failures that these drivers should be able to recover from that they don't seem able to do. I had an aha1542 controler that got partially fried by the death of the CD drive that was attatched to it. Upon replacing the drive, the new drives would eventually fail, until I replaced the controler. When they failed the controler would find itself in conflict between an I/O error and the device timeout that caused it. After several retries at reseting the scsi device, which pushed the drive into a locked state, the driver would lock up so tight that nothing else could happen in the system and a power-down reboot was required to correct the problem. If the SCSI subsystem were more robust, this would have resolved itself into an unrecoverable error and the process could have died gracefully, leaving the system in a useful state. The reason non of this is a bug is that the design of the software requires that the hardware work in the advertised fashion. While this may sound like an excuse for failure to provide adequate error recovery, if you think about it some, you will conlcude that in every error recovery path there is an additional chance for failure due to hardware deficiencies. This recursion makes it impossible to cover all the bases, and you are left with the software we have. Sometimes it can manage under extreme conditions and sometimes it can't. Glad to hear you found the problem, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian got slammed
So, let me see what we have here. I don't think the following is any exaggeration. I've seen some of these points in this thread alone: o Within Debian, we're a happy lot except there's no concensys on issues such as dselect, base install content, default customization, etc. o Within Debian, we unite to berate RedHat and Slackware. o Within Linux, we unite against FreeBSD, SCO open, etc. o All the free unix's unite to bash commercial Unix's like Solaris, IRIX, etc. o Unix users everywhere unite against OS/2, NT and everything else from Micro$oft. The exact same thing occurs amongst sports fans when it comes to city, state or provincial teams, division teams, national teams, etc. Then all fans of one sport like hockey may unite against baseball fans, and visaversa. Similar behaviour exists amongst car owners, beer drinkers, programming language users, music lovers, emacs and vi users, C programmers as to where exactly they place the squiggly braces and how they indent their code, religion, politics, you name it. OK, Rick, So What's Your Point? I dunno. Different Strokes for Different Folks. Seems like it's just human nature to me. Personally, I just seek out those with similar interests and try not to get sucked into wasting time and energy converting others to my way of thinking. That said, I certainly do appreciate that Debian has an official core that does expend some energy promoting and protecting the Debian image. -- ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CDE-like window manager
Anyone know of a CDE/Motif like window manager for Debian? I've gotten used to my CDE desktop at work. I hope that I don't get flamed too much for the attachments to this email, but they are not large. They snow a screen capture of my fvwm2. Perhaps many people don't know that fvwm2 can be set up in various ways. Stephen - you didn't say what features of CDE you like. I'm guessing that it's the dashboard style and perhaps the desktop buttons for switching destops and the pop-up menus. This is what my fvwm2 setup looked like a year ago. I've rearranged it a bit since then. The clock is now half the size and the load meter is at the right side. I use CDE at work too, but much prefer the way that fvwm2 shows the shape and titles of each window in the pager. I have 24 desktops at home, and rarely have more than one window per desktop. I don't like icons on my dashboard; they seem a waste of space to me. The labels such as Hosts, Apps, etc are pop-up menus with mini-icons if you like them. -- ...RickM... ---BeginMessage--- Here is my buttonbar from fvwm2. I'm still working on it. I can't capture the pop-up menus because they go away when you click anything else. They mostly came from the slackware fvwm menus. The default buttonbar looks fancier because it has some icons on it, but mine is more functional. The clock doesn't come with debian. The jpg file is small, so I've attached it in two different ways. begin 666 dash.jpg M1TE.#=A%@,\`/``$A`2%^H@P)[EMAIL PROTECTED]'X#T*!;_ [EMAIL PROTECTED]+PU2BR\Q8!_PA`OWB,[EMAIL PROTECTED](OPXD;\#TM0'_`4_0%`$``$` M([EMAIL PROTECTED]#!X`DQ8!8([EMAIL PROTECTED]```M[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@([EMAIL PROTECTED]/\6%K\($4 M`/[EMAIL PROTECTED](6%D`(ZRGBG`O1;[EMAIL PROTECTED]@$-L([EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]( M`.G4,^[T``K_`$_`0$].X`*!``%D``[EMAIL PROTECTED](OW#@!#T1Q+_ M`PR_'`$GA``O1(``;\`-L(@``D6``@([EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]'CT M_#'T*`C_%D_PUA/6R\_\!_[]`OX3(2K,H1P06`P-T``#T(`#_%@_``$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED](Q8``([EMAIL PROTECTED]'@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@6`$`(`(@`$/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/\6`+\( [EMAIL PROTECTED]R$E#``!;```$#4P`E`(@\P`([EMAIL PROTECTED]'U3PC_`P`U,BR MA8!%;#\`?4H`$2D9_;T`/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/8`8?\`$K\``!XJ``Q\P`(_P!` [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/\6_[\(OP``]N``'R,[EMAIL PROTECTED]`!O MJ`[EMAIL PROTECTED]@(O\6`1``9V)@``,6```].`J^,6_P@(OP!X]``Q^!8. M``/!``!``#Q2[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;]`/\`+]` M``3Z]/8J^$QL;F+U``/[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED];P,`]`#`_P`OSQL M@#U``#_``[EMAIL PROTECTED]_0*0,9/;U]/___[^_OP!O!`U```4``#U M(``` M M`P`%@,\```([EMAIL PROTECTED]/!Q([EMAIL PROTECTED]@3*ES(L*'# MAQ`C2IQ(L:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MS(L:/'CR!#BAQ)LJ3)DRA3JEQY(`!+D2X)R)Q)LZ;- MFSASZMRY,R;/GT#K7IZC1HT@)N'S)M*G3IU`[+DU*M:K5JUA_!IB:MO1 MK0\BC5:=*S9GF'/JLVY-*K;[EMAIL PROTECTED];=JW=NWB)[EMAIL PROTECTED]S; MF0`2*U[,N+'CQXD%2)Y,N;[EMAIL PROTECTED],!ESYE#B[;N?3CRJ93;Q[-K1J MTYAI;MU;N+;MK[1O7_6KVROAWE5_`T]Z6:``B3*U_^FG'[EMAIL PROTECTED];KU MZ]A!HX;.G;)T[.##_EO7+CGQ\O/HTZN/K+DY9]0`Q,N_3IZR;+K#\^M7FGO_ M4-Y8`=;$$MAMA/`A*08%:![EMAIL PROTECTED]JIW7GSS%!8=QQ^EV]97' M87?@@B?!:FJ)R[%HHGSUE?AB=K%-B%^$[D'[EMAIL PROTECTED]@48)[EMAIL PROTECTED]/($ M88)#WH2D;W4I2%.28T%IY$T4'K?B`[V-B(W,DX(WV?0F=EU^Z5V.S957 [EMAIL PROTECTED]*+9F(_Y]8AG4`!:)23BXHY)%2_M=DD$H^F1B!SII M7*%`E06E8@BR2ABESJ9*:`V48JIH,;)-A!B5V+YX99B/D?FFWFJJJ;_F]6 MUZJKHH$:ZPAWBIB=^U.J=`2-GIX)X#TDDL6T46V*BBCEZZI*/!'1JDA,Z M:NVSSQ)WZ*;06FIMLXU66].0H'8;JH15IJ@:G,[1ZIJNGXYJ[NAK1IOF?/2 M2YJ:L8Y'FKSC3KC;B1*B=);K%:3W`7MLI,DI7Y%'5L9$3?XOMM]$J MJ?R%5^[[,@:_PH4:,:Q^)QC%YI8NHZAL=AM+5WM\.MHL\`RCTDSSD#_ M'_0.LO:,VNVLBGOOSH#+3#-0PLLM88URC2;PQ(S_+!.F7+KI]96%[QUPP$. MW*W8/-T,8(E!^IIMEZ3)6VXG7[JK(,?FVPN_K28HHRUE2Y;*?C+/R]V]P MWWMOSD5#/?3A2-2-3PTSY/7RN[-B3T?-:],.SYYS8K37#5_8G:]]A M^IVV:M3F3KK?29%;=MYIZW3VHG2+?*X)NM.99-'ZITWWVUSJGRVE=:4;G*` M!_[RT#%CSJNLG5NN?9SYNGL]G-DOKCW/WF$^6=)2C[XXXUW.;[0ZX]^^M5S MY^0ZZW5V'3N.^SL_^]BUQ;PF.4M$/*;RKF^\,:,-4452G#J;!)-'LKV% M#$)[EMAIL PROTECTED]'?.H#G_@MR\/HAQ(WS?U*A6/A/R:X7K$Z'H6'B^7I. MA8N;GYXP)KRQF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]'[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@R+:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M8(O*V+A^B,7D95!R[EMAIL PROTECTED],VUH:PV1H9U0C9MS@[EMAIL PROTECTED] MV!LASN[EMAIL PROTECTED]']7#K7$1=FG;(?[\Y\2KDLM3Q6)(GUQ3X*;58 M6DPF3049#WZP7T8K81GAQ:KMU--,(,C')O1U2SS*_:J3JOFP0SI2B+L; MI0GJ:P!GH67`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
Re: console in X
Shaya Potter wrote: I have been having trouble getting the console to work in X. I am probably doing something stupid, and missing something very obvious so any help would be appreciated. Check the perms on /dev/xconsole and /usr/X11R6/bin/xconsole. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Problem with sendfax?
Hello all, I am runnig Debian 1.2/Linux 2.0.29/Mgetty+SendFax 1.0 and I would like to send faxes with my modem which is on /dev/ttyS0 So, I have converted a .ps file to a .g3 file using gs, and I try to send it : nathalie# sendfax -x 5 -v 0320137288 /home/sbriole/ISEN/fax.g3 Trying fax device '/dev/ttyS0'... OK. sendfax: cannot set fax station ID So : what can I do? I thank you in advance for your answer(s), Sylvain. Sylvain Briole | SysOp d'Eclice B.B.S. EMail InterNet : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +33-3-20137288 NetMail FidoNet : 2:322/20 | Lille - Nord - France NetMail FrancoMedia : 101:176/114 | Eclice sur I.R.C. | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What programs make disks spin up?
George Bonser wrote: The disks never spin down because Linux is constanly checking to see if its buffers need flushing. (I think) I've been trying to get my disk to spin down on my laptop. I haven't totally accomplished this yet. Usually when I start the thing up I see my disk light come on every 5 seconds or so. I just started shutting things down to see if I could stop this. It turns out that apache was the culprit. Why do I need apache on my laptop? Why do some car owners think they need nitrous and a super-charger in their Pinto? -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with sendfax?
Sylvain Briole writes: I am runnig Debian 1.2/Linux 2.0.29/Mgetty+SendFax 1.0 and I would like to send faxes with my modem which is on /dev/ttyS0 So, I have converted a .ps file to a .g3 file using gs, and I try to send it : nathalie# sendfax -x 5 -v 0320137288 /home/sbriole/ISEN/fax.g3 Trying fax device '/dev/ttyS0'... OK. sendfax: cannot set fax station ID Check your config files in /etc/mgetty, are you sure that you have a fax modem? I'm not a modem expert but I seem to remember that there are some modems that cannot fax - or at least cannot fax at level 3 which is needed for sendfax (USR SportSter might be such a modem). Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / Install joe (Joey's Own Editor) correct: Joe's Own Editor / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What programs make disks spin up?
Nathan E Norman wrote: I don't think this is going to work, since Linux caches the superblock as well as other filesystem info. There's a daemon called bdflush, which I believe has been incorporated into the kernel ... its job is to flush dirty disk buffers. Since Linux multitasks, I imagine something is being read from or written to the disk at pretty regular intervals .. ^ Only **dirty** buffers need to be written to disk by bdflush. I nothing is writing to disk, (and nothing is reading blocks from disk that are not cached) then no physical disk access needs to be made. I've never heard of this bearing problem, so I have no idea if it exists. However, I can tell you that we have several machines that are running 24/7 with no problems whatsoever ... some of the network servers have been up for years. And yet, it could exist. I for one would like to hear more about this unsubstantiated rumor. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Tecra kernel 2.0.29: PCMCIA unresolved externals
Martin Fehlaber wrote: I used the 'tecra' disks as Bruce suggested and Debian 1.3 installed fine on my ThinkPad. Then I tried to get my 3Com PCMCIA Ethernet card to work. Installing the pcmcia-cs_2.9.5-3.deb and pcmcia-modules-2.0.29_2.9.5-2.deb gave me a 'need pcmcia-cs_2.9.5-2' conflict for the second. I forced it to install despite that. Now while booting I get messages like: Starting PCMCIA Services: module/lib/lodule/2.0.29/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.o: unresolved external apm_register_callback_R4e72ac41 module/lib/lodule/2.0.29/pcmcia/i82365.o: ... module/lib/lodule/2.0.29/pcmcia/ds.o: ... By the way... shouldn't this pcmcia stuff show-up in the modules dependencies file? This I can help you with. Basically the pcmcia stuff is broke. To get around this I had to install kernel-image_2.0.30 and get the pcmcia-cs_2.9.6 and pcmcia-modules_2.9.6 from unstable. All of these package are less than a floppy in size, if that helps... :/ PS I'd also be curious to know what display chipset you have. Cyber9320? Stephen --- Normality is a statistical illusion. -- me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What programs make disks spin up?
Nathan E Norman wrote:
I don't think this is going to work, since Linux caches the superblock
as well as other filesystem info. There's a daemon called bdflush,
which I believe has been incorporated into the kernel ... its job is to
flush dirty disk buffers. Since Linux multitasks, I imagine something
is being read from or written to the disk at pretty regular intervals
..
^
Only **dirty** buffers need to be written to disk by bdflush. I
nothing is writing to disk, (and nothing is reading blocks from
disk that are not cached) then no physical disk access needs to be
made.
(You probably already realised this, but) the last statement
is only true if you have the no_atime_patch, cause otherwise everytime
somebody reads /lib/ld.so, the atime of /lib/ld.so needs to be updated,
no matter wheter it was in cache or not (and ld.so probably is cached).
--
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Re: Official Debian 1.3 CD-ROM/Release Methodology
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote: Friends, Is there yet an Official 1.3 CD-ROM available from anywhere? Talk Paul Wade of Greenbush on this list. He very generously donated a pair of 1.3 cds to our project here. The website is lagging. I dropped prices and am busy doing a subscription run. I hope to get the new stuff posted tonight. Email is best until then. the Timestamp is Thu Jun 19 15:57:01 UTC 1997 This means you finally got the CD drive working? Is it bootable? The binary/install CD is bootable on machines that support 'El Torito' specification bootable CD's. My experience with different test machines varied. If I were buying a motherboard or SCSI card today, I would make sure the BIOS really works with bootable CD's. Several with award BIOS booted it from IDE CD drives with no problem. A Dell and 2 Gateway machines went into a reset loop, although I was able to do a 0floppy install using dos/loadlin without problems. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
message problems...
I was reading my /var/log/messages and came across this: Jun 25 20:15:36 brainiac kernel: Disc change detected. Jun 25 21:47:35 brainiac kernel: Device not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive. Jun 25 21:48:07 brainiac last message repeated 40 times Jun 25 21:49:08 brainiac last message repeated 75 times Jun 25 21:50:12 brainiac last message repeated 80 times Jun 25 21:51:13 brainiac last message repeated 75 times Jun 25 21:52:10 brainiac last message repeated 74 times Jun 25 21:53:10 brainiac last message repeated 75 times Jun 25 21:54:11 brainiac last message repeated 75 times Jun 25 21:55:11 brainiac last message repeated 75 times Jun 25 21:55:52 brainiac last message repeated 50 times This is the only thing it says aobut it. I don't know what kind of disc it is talking about even. Anyone know what this means and how to fix it? But I have also just realized that my cdrom device doesn't exist: Jun 25 18:05:44 brainiac kernel: Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 Jun 25 18:05:44 brainiac kernel: scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom 4 SCSI disks total. And /dev/sr0 does not exist. How do I create it? Thanks in advance for any help. Dennis + dpk [EMAIL PROTECTED] + work : 517.353.8892 + + Systems Undergrad + pager: 517.222.5875 + + Division of Engineering Computing Services + + -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem with sendfax?
Martin Schulze wrote:
Sylvain Briole writes:
I am runnig Debian 1.2/Linux 2.0.29/Mgetty+SendFax 1.0 and I would like to
send faxes with my modem which is on /dev/ttyS0
So, I have converted a .ps file to a .g3 file using gs, and I try to send
it :
nathalie# sendfax -x 5 -v 0320137288 /home/sbriole/ISEN/fax.g3
Trying fax device '/dev/ttyS0'... OK.
sendfax: cannot set fax station ID
Check your config files in /etc/mgetty, are you sure that you
have a fax modem? I'm not a modem expert but I seem to remember
that there are some modems that cannot fax - or at least cannot
fax at level 3 which is needed for sendfax (USR SportSter might
be such a modem).
Regards
Joey
Actually, the problem with fax modems and sendfax is not generally
that they can't handle group 3 fax files, but that they don't
support Class 2 or Class 2.0 fax transmission. My fax-modem only
supports Class 1. I use mgetty and although since it does not support
Class 1 I cannot receive faxes, I can send them easily with the
excellent efax package.
That said, your problem may not be that it doesn't support class
2/2.0 (which mgetty requires, as I have stated). Since you have
logging turned on ('-x 5') why don't you post the log here? You should
find it in /var/log/mgetty.
NOTE: USR Sportster (at least my 28.8) supports class 1 2.0. If you
want to see what classes your modem supports, get into a COM program
(in DOS/Win/Linux doesn't matter) and give your modem the command:
AT+FCLASS=?
It should print a list of what classes it supports.
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Re: What programs make disks spin up?
In your email to me, Jens B. Jorgensen, you wrote: Nathan E Norman wrote: I don't think this is going to work, since Linux caches the superblock as well as other filesystem info. There's a daemon called bdflush, which I believe has been incorporated into the kernel ... its job is to flush dirty disk buffers. Since Linux multitasks, I imagine something is being read from or written to the disk at pretty regular intervals .. ^ Only **dirty** buffers need to be written to disk by bdflush. I nothing is writing to disk, (and nothing is reading blocks from disk that are not cached) then no physical disk access needs to be made. True. I hear my disks spin down and up on my machine with APM running. I've never heard of this bearing problem, so I have no idea if it exists. However, I can tell you that we have several machines that are running 24/7 with no problems whatsoever ... some of the network servers have been up for years. And yet, it could exist. I for one would like to hear more about this unsubstantiated rumor. Drives that are kept cool have no problem. Older drives that may heat up well will have spin problems. We have our news box with 8 barracuda 2 gig drives. To get the system to boot after we power it down for more that a few mins (things start to cool), we literally have to kick or pound the side of the case as soon as we poer it on to get the drives to spin back up. It seems like the grease starts to get sticky with age and heat. Seagate has confirmed this. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Very Pete Townshendish. Who? Exactly. -- Anon ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Official Debian 1.3 CD-ROM/Release Methodology
Friends, Is there yet an Official 1.3 CD-ROM available from anywhere? Is it bootable? I concur with many of you that it is *very* important to have an official cd-rom, not primarily becase SPI could bring in a little dough, but rather because you just don't know what you're getting when you get a CD. I was recently considering buying the Cheap Bytes CD. There wasn't that much on their web site about what *exactly* was on the CD. I emailed them and asked a lot of questions: When were the files for the image downloaded? Do you have the stable, contrib, and non-free DIRs? And they could not provide sufficient answers. They couldn't tell me exactly when the snapshot was taken. Unfortunately, with the way things are done right now, this is very important. This is because usually when a release is announced, there are still a lot of problems. (Ok, less in 1.3 there there were in 1.2.) This problem could be solved if there was an Official image released by SPI. Now, if we're going to do this we'll also need to either A) include a minor rev number (1.3.X) which actually means something or B) at least include a production date or C) change our Release Methodology. Now Bruce, I know my comments are going to frustrate you. I know that it is impossible (without hiring legions of testers, and even then you can still only get 98% of the way there) to make a release which is perfect because in point of fact the release doesn't really get tested until everyone downloads it and trys to install it. No, I'm not accusing the developers of not testing their stuff. I have the utmost confidence that they do their able best to test their stuff before calling it released. However, I am a software developer myself and I know that in any complex system it is a near impossible task to test every case and scenario of a system. You do your best and then let it go. So, what changes am I suggesting for the Release Methodology? Well, it would be presumptuous of me to suggest changes when I don't know what is currently in place. I would suggest that a few basic procedures be followed though. When a change to a package is released, have two people **other than** the maintainer test it. One should upgrade an existing package, the other should install it fresh. When a release is being put together, have a number of people install it from scratch on a clean system. Now of course we'll need volunteers for this. Now although I don't have time to maintain a package, I'd be more than happy to be a package tester for one or two. I'd also be happy to be a test release installer. I have a spare 150MB IDE disk and I'd be glad to test-install releases before they become official. I think we should have sign-ups for both of these functions just as we do for the package mainainer-ships. Comments? -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Any hints on using NAS audio?
No sound comes out when I do: auplay /usr/lib/tkdesk/sounds/halt.au This is my first attempt at using NAS or playing any sort of audio file. My kernel is compile with proper support for my sound card, as well as /dev/audio support. I have installed nas, and the deamon is running: root 116 0.0 0.5 944 360 ? S 11:28 0:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/au I can play CDs, but nothing comes out when I play audio files with auplay. I also trying `bplay', and catting the file to the audio device: # bplay /usr/lib/tkdesk/sounds/halt.au bplay: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy # cat /usr/lib/tkdesk/sounds/halt.au /dev/dsp bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy # cat /usr/lib/tkdesk/sounds/halt.au /dev/audio bash: /dev/audio: Device or resource busy Any hints? Does the fact that CDs play mean that audio files should also? Or is could my sound card still not be correctly setup? -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Official Debian 1.3 CD-ROM/Release Methodology
Friends, Is there yet an Official 1.3 CD-ROM available from anywhere? Talk Paul Wade of Greenbush on this list. He very generously donated a pair of 1.3 cds to our project here. the Timestamp is Thu Jun 19 15:57:01 UTC 1997 Is it bootable? The binary/install CD is bootable on machines that support 'El Torito' specification bootable CD's. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Distributer in UK?
Hi to all, I am interested in Debian 1.3. I have just installed it on a standalone PC and found that the installation disks only provides base system only. To download X window and GNU C compiler from the net will take up to much time(I got a slow 9600 modem!). Hence I am interested in purchasing the Debian 1.3 version CDs. Does anyone know of any CDs distributers/sellers in UK that sell these CDs? Please kindly let me know . Thanks Matthew Touw [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: WARNING: g77_0.5.20-1 buggy
Maybe we should wait for 0.5.21. It's in alpha right now. Don't how long it'll take till it gets beta though... -- Emilio C. Lopes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
BadPix
Hi Whenever I start xkeycaps and select a keyboard / layout the program quits with the following message : X Error of failed request: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 54 (X_FreePixmap) Resource id in failed request: 0x0 Serial number of failed request: 4880 Current serial number in output stream: 5360 This also happens with other programs like graphic programs, xpaint gimp.. I have installed the current xpm libraries, both the normal and the development libraries. I am using WindowMaker as window manager but the problem does also occur with twm. I hope someone can help me. Please. Thank you in advance Niki -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
from 1.3 to hamm
I've successfully completed the 1.2 to 1.3 update on all my current packages (love that dselect). And now I see some updates and bug-fixes I would like to use starting to show up in hamm (I already have xfree and xemacs19), however, I see that more of them are being compiled with the new glibc6. What are the issues in converting to the new glibc? Is there a suggested path to follow in beginning to migrate in that direction? -- The AtticKeeper: David Morris --- Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending... -- Unknown --- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FAX +1 515 474 2499 The Nerdnosh Attic: http://www.netins.net/showcase/nerdnosh The Lectionary Page: http://www.netins.net/showcase/dmorris/ PGP Public Key available via Finger --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Second Ethernet Card
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. DO YOU KNOW THE PATCH NAME? THANKS, DRAZEN -- From: Philippe Troin To: Lalovic, Drazen Subject: Re: Second Ethernet Card Date: Thursday, June 26, 1997 3:45PM On Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:12:00 EDT Lalovic, Drazen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have recompiled the kernel to support IP forwarding. One of two 3C509 Cards that I have on my machine works. What is required to get my second Ethernet Card working? I have tried to add the append=ether=11,0x320.eth1 statement to lilo.conf but it doesn't make it work. Any ideas? The 3c509 driver in 2.0.30 can only cope with one card. You need to patch it to get more than one. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Idea: make System upgrade diskset
There's been a lot of discussion lately on how to upgrade a whole debian system from 1.2 to 1.3. I would also like to do this at home. It seems to be very tricky business. Now I often recommend debian to people getting into Linux because its package management is superior. I tell them debian is the easiest to upgrade. This statement is certainly true, but we could use a little work in the system upgrade department. Why don't we create a disk set specifically for upgrading a distribution? Bruce: I'd love to volunteer for this but 1) I don't have enough disk space at home to create an debian environment suitable for creating packages (especially since I'm usually one major rev behind), and 2) I work too many hours already writing software for money. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Any 1.3 updates yet?
On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Civ Kevin F. Havener wrote: I installed 1.3.0 almost as soon as it became available. I've since seen several updated packages destined for bo/stable/1.3. Yet when I point dselect at ftp.debian.org|select|update, all my packages are current. I'm reasonably sure that some of the updatated packages I've seen announced are applicable to my system, but I suppose it's possible that none of the announced updates would show up as currently installed on my system. 1. Is there some base or required package that has been updated since 1.3.0 release that should have shown up at ftp.debian.org/stable and that dselect should be picking up? 2. If so, is my dselect broke, or have the updates not been released to stable, nonfree, or contrib yet? The packages in bo-updates are still being tested. When they have passed the testing phase and it is time to release 1.3.1 those packages that passed the testing phase will be moved into bo-fixed, and a new point release will be announced. There is nothing wrong with dselect or the ftp sites. The behavior you are seeing is proper for the current state of the archive. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
general protection: 0000
I have been getting general protection: for a long time an I really want to get to the bottom of this. It seems to allways be kswapd. This log came from a less than 24 hour clean install of debian. version 1.2.10. Now its up to the current unstable version. I had the system to the unstable version before and it also gave be the general protection errors. Please please help! Mucho thanks in advance, here is a log sample: Jun 26 06:42:40 bitgate syslogd 1.3-0#15: restart. Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel: general protection: Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel: CPU:0 Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel: EIP:0010:[shrink_mmap+120/468] Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel: EFLAGS: 00010217 Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel: eax: ebx: 002a0160 ecx: 0006 edx: f000ef6f Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel: esi: 00ef edi: 07ec ebp: 2000 esp: 002fefa4 Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 0018 gs: 0018 ss: 0018 Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel: Process kswapd (pid: 3, process nr: 3, stackpage=002fe000) Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel: Stack: 0006 0003 00bd0aa9 0011f333 0006 Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel:0002 001f670e 0e00 0011f4d7 0003 Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel:0100 afdc 002ff20a 001094ab 0011f390 002215e8 Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel: Call Trace: [try_to_free_page+63/156] [kswapd+327/344] [init+63/856] [kswapd+0/344] Jun 26 09:12:50 bitgate kernel: Code: f6 42 14 10 74 0e 0f ba 72 14 04 19 c0 0f ba 6b 18 02 19 c0 now add about 24 more of these Erich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) Black cable.
I have just tried to get two APC Smart UPS v/s 650s up and running in my department but unfortunately, genpower does not support the cable, a black PowerShute(TM) cable with serial number 940-0024C. I have genpower running with my APC Back-UPS 400 and cable 940-0020B successfully after figuring out I should use the tripp-nt cable type using gentest. gentest is a program that monitors the serial port and displays which line goes high or low when the ups is unplugged. This is a great program to figure out if the response of your cable fits one of the cable configurations compiled into genpower. However, when I ran gentest in every way possible using the black cable, there was no signal at all. I then tried statserial and again, there was no signal (note I put my cable on the new ups to make sure it was working and it worked fine). This leaves me with a couple of questions: 1) Does anyone know how I can figure out a new cable specification for the 940-0024C when gentest and statserial are no help? 2) I have found another non-debian package called apcupsd which does support this cable and most other APC cables. It also supports smart mode which is not supported in genpower. Moreover, it is GPLd. I would be happy to package this for debian if there is no objections/some demand. Any comments? Cheers, Colin. -- Colin R. Telmer, Institute of Intergovernmental Relations School of Policy Studies, Queen's University Kingston, Ontario, Canada, K7L-3N6 (613)545-6000x4219 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Public Key at URL:http://terrapin.econ.queensu.ca -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Why is pine so slow?
Colin, I did this and it works fine. I didn't want to change to a smarthost because smail is set up for my needs. Thanks. On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Colin R. Telmer wrote: It seems that when pine did the last major upstream release, the config file changed (at least in my case, but I could have changed it awhile ago). Anyway edit .pinerc and change sendmail-path (originally blank) to the example that is commented out: # This names the path to an alternative program, and any necessary arguments, # to be used in posting mail messages. Example: #/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi # or, #/usr/local/bin/sendit.sh # The latter a script found in Pine distribution's contrib/util directory. # NOTE: The program MUST read the message to be posted on standard input, # AND operate in the style of sendmail's -t option. sendmail-path=/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi This made my pine lightning fast without the possible problems of using the background sending option. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Special Linux CD offer + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: from 1.3 to hamm
I've successfully completed the 1.2 to 1.3 update on all my current
packages (love that dselect). And now I see some updates and bug-fixes I
would like to use starting to show up in hamm (I already have xfree and
xemacs19), however, I see that more of them are being compiled with the
new glibc6.
What are the issues in converting to the new glibc?
Basically, it's going from the debian-user to debian-devel
mailinglist. I see a lot of questions from people using unstable
in debian-user, but as far as I know, debian-user is primarily for
the stable distribution.
Is there a suggested path to follow in beginning to migrate in that
direction?
Basically, if you've got the unstable versions of libc5, and ldso,
then all you need to do is:
dpkg -i libc6_2.0.4-1_i386.deb
Some/most packages also depend on other libc6 compiled libraries,
that currently aren't in unstable yet (waiting in incoming).
So, you'll have to get them from masters' incoming.
About the stability:
Just installing libc6 will not break anything on your system, except
who (will not show any output any more). Installing other libc6
libraries/packages will probably not break anything eigher (it didn't
on my system, anyway), except installing the libc6 compiled screen:
that messed up my utmp/wtmp files. Maybe it's best to backup those
if you really need them.
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Re: Why is pine so slow?
On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Paul Wade wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Shaya Potter wrote: I get the same with smail and I'm not using a smarthost. I think it could be an smail or pine config thing, because you would think that smail would accept the mail right away and pine would continue. Makes me think that it makes an initial delivery attempt at the time. I know that when I have mail in the retry spool, pine runs normally. If somebody already knows about this, please post it. It seems that when pine did the last major upstream release, the config file changed (at least in my case, but I could have changed it awhile ago). Anyway edit .pinerc and change sendmail-path (originally blank) to the example that is commented out: # This names the path to an alternative program, and any necessary arguments, # to be used in posting mail messages. Example: #/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi # or, #/usr/local/bin/sendit.sh # The latter a script found in Pine distribution's contrib/util directory. # NOTE: The program MUST read the message to be posted on standard input, # AND operate in the style of sendmail's -t option. sendmail-path=/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi This made my pine lightning fast without the possible problems of using the background sending option. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin R. Telmer, Institute of Intergovernmental Relations School of Policy Studies, Queen's University Kingston, Ontario, Canada, K7L-3N6 (613)545-6000x4219 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint = 09 E9 DA 66 9C EE 33 DC B8 3B 97 0E 01 BC EC 0B PGP Public Key at URL:http://terrapin.econ.queensu.ca -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Official Debian 1.3 CD-ROM/Release Methodology
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: So, what changes am I suggesting for the Release Methodology? Well, it would be presumptuous of me to suggest changes when I don't know what is currently in place. I would suggest that a few basic procedures be followed though. When a change to a package is released, have two people **other than** the maintainer test it. One should upgrade an existing package, the other should install it fresh. When a release is being put together, have a number of people install it from scratch on a clean system. Now of course we'll need volunteers for this. Now although I don't have time to maintain a package, I'd be more than happy to be a package tester for one or two. I'd also be happy to be a test release installer. I have a spare 150MB IDE disk and I'd be glad to test-install releases before they become official. I think we should have sign-ups for both of these functions just as we do for the package mainainer-ships. Comments? We already have such a system. It's called the Debian Testing Group. I act as the coordinator of the group's activities. I would be glad to add you to the mailing list and to the list of testers. We can use all the help we can get. Please advise if you are really interested. The practices you indicated in your post, are, for the most part, already implimented. (within the limits imposed by volunteer help) We are currently making point releases based on what testing can determine about the quality of the packages targeted for stable. These prospective packages wait in bo-updates and are tested by the group from there. When the next point release is to be made, those packages in bo-updates that are considered tested successfully are moved into bo-fixed and the point release is declared. While the group produced much testing effort before the release of 1.3.0 the amount of testing done since then has reduced to a few very contientious testers. Any long term contributers to the group's efforts are greatfully accepted. Thanks, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What programs make disks spin up?
I don't think this is going to work, since Linux caches the superblock as well as other filesystem info. There's a daemon called bdflush, which I believe has been incorporated into the kernel ... its job is to flush dirty disk buffers. Since Linux multitasks, I imagine something is being read from or written to the disk at pretty regular intervals .. I've never heard of this bearing problem, so I have no idea if it exists. However, I can tell you that we have several machines that are running 24/7 with no problems whatsoever ... some of the network servers have been up for years. -- Nathan Norman:Hostmaster CFNI:[EMAIL PROTECTED] finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key and other stuff Key fingerprint = CE 03 10 AF 32 81 18 58 9D 32 C2 AB 93 6D C4 72 -- On 24 Jun 1997, Andy Spiegl wrote: :Hi! : :I just managed to find a tool (actually it's a kernel patch) that :allows my SCSI disks to spin down when they are idle for more than :a specified time. :This works great for my WINDOS disk which is hardly used while I :run Linux, but it doesn't work at all for the disk where the :Linux partitions are installed on. (Yes, I got 2 2GB SCSI disks) : :Now I am wondering what programs keep it busy all the time. In :the mini-FAQ of the kernel patch I read that the cron daemon, :at, sendmail are good candidates. But are there any more? :Is it worth creating a ramdisk for /tmp so that at doesn't :use the disk, changing all cron jobs so they run almost at the :same time, and possibly patching sendmail? Or how else can I :tell sendmail not to try to send out my mail every 15 minutes? :I am only online once every night to get new mail, news etc., :so it doesn't make sense for sendmail to try that often anyway. : :Is there anyone out there who has gone through all this trouble? : :Thanks a lot in advance for any pointers! : Andy. : :PS: In case anybody wonders why I want to spin down my disks, :I asked around quite a bit and came to the conclusion that :I rather risk reaching the maximum spin-up number of my :disks (which is very high) than risking that my disks :won't spin up anymore after a system shutdown for repair, :hardware upgrade or whatever. For, I read that when a disk :has been running for a very long time it sort of dug a ditch :into the ball bearing. And when it spins up after a shutdown :chances are high it won't find that 'ditch' or stumbles across :it and fails. : : Andy Spiegl, PhD Student, Technical University, Muenchen, Germany : E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : URL:http://www.appl-math.tu-muenchen.de/~spiegl : PGP fingerprint: B8 48 24 7B DB 96 6F 1C D9 6D 8E 6C DB C2 E7 E9 :o _ _ _ : - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) : --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ : -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ : ~~~ : : :-- :TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to :[EMAIL PROTECTED] . :Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . : -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
console in X
I have been having trouble getting the console to work in X. I am probably doing something stupid, and missing something very obvious so any help would be appreciated. Shaya -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Best e-mail approach for discon. sites
Kai Grossjohann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] How does fetchmail deal with mailing lists? I'd imagine that all that fetchmail can do is look at the To and Cc headers which aren't very useful for mailing lists. It can use some headers to extract appropriate info. if they exist. For example, my ISP adds X-Envelope-To: and Return-Path: headers which is all the extra OOB information. -- Carey Evans * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our mail program accidentally deleted our remove list. - Real quote from UCE -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ftp.debian.org down?
George Bonser wrote: errr, make that 192.221.26.1 had too many IP addresses on this paper. On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, George Bonser wrote: My traceroute gets as far as gateway1.gatech.edu (208.153.128.135) and dies there. --- santanni.cc.gatech.edu ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 33% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 380.4/399.7/419.1 ms Yesterday we had some rough thunderstorms here in the metro Atlanta area (home of GA Tech and ftp.debian.org) I can see it now however, it lost 1 of 10 and min was 291 ms and max was 527 ms. At least ftp.debian.org is reachable. Right now, master.debian.org is down. -- Greg Vence | Debian GNU Linux KH2EA/4 | Diamond 2000 (7npw 4cpw) [EMAIL PROTECTED]| There is time for what's important -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Tecra kernel 2.0.29: PCMCIA unresolved externals
I used the 'tecra' disks as Bruce suggested and Debian 1.3 installed fine on my ThinkPad. Then I tried to get my 3Com PCMCIA Ethernet card to work. Installing the pcmcia-cs_2.9.5-3.deb and pcmcia-modules-2.0.29_2.9.5-2.deb gave me a 'need pcmcia-cs_2.9.5-2' conflict for the second. I forced it to install despite that. Now while booting I get messages like: Starting PCMCIA Services: module/lib/lodule/2.0.29/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.o: unresolved external apm_register_callback_R4e72ac41 module/lib/lodule/2.0.29/pcmcia/i82365.o: ... module/lib/lodule/2.0.29/pcmcia/ds.o: ... By the way... shouldn't this pcmcia stuff show-up in the modules dependencies file? This is a me too sort of message. I had access to another Debian machine and had to compile a new kernel and pcmcia-modules for 2.9.5-3. I thought 2.9.5-3 shouldn't have made it to stable. It wasn't a problem on an install I did a few weeks ago (Not sure if bo was still frozen or alreade stable). Before compiling, I tried upgrading the kernel to 2.0.30 and installing the modules. But this still gave me unresolved symbols. Also, it looks as though at least one of the symbols is apm related. I thought that apm wasn't part of the standard kernel because of the buggy BIOS around (mine for instance...). Should we file bugs? Thanks in advance, Luis. -- Luis Francisco Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint = F8 B1 13 DE 22 22 94 A1 14 BE 95 8E 49 39 78 76 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: plip and other modules give error messages.
Alan, I would guess that some modules got installed and they are not compatible with your current kernel. Remove the surplus ones from /lib/modules/*/* and run depmod -a again. Lindsay On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Alan Eugene Davis wrote: I have just posted about some incompatibilities of my aging Debian system, including problems compiling. I have another problem that keeps cropping up, possibly ever since an ill-fated attempt to compile a 3.1.X kernel on a zip disk: Each time this machine boots, it gives messages that three or more modules have unresolved references. One of these is plip.o. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Looks like my library upgrade broke those modules. I need/want plip to network this machine with the planned new one. Can I repair this short of recompiling the kernel? Alan -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands ---===+++#+++===--- if a close inspection should show that the supposed hand-wrought spoon were in reality only a clever imitation of hand-wrought goods, but an imitation so cleverly wrought as to give the same impression of line and surface to any but a minute examination by a trained eye, the utility of the article, including gratification which the user derives from its contemplation as an object of beauty, would immediately decline by some eighty or ninety percent, or even more --Thorsten Veblen, _The Theory of the Leisure Class_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832 32S, 116E http: http://rolf.ece.curtin.edu.au/~lindsay debian linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail configuration has been lost after disk full runq errors
Alan, I should have answered this too. Mail is sent by the runq command, which in turn is run from /var/spool/cron/crontabs/mail. This should have a command like 3,23,43 * * * * runq To fix this, su to mail and run crontab -e If this is not the trouble we need expert help. Lindsay On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Alan Eugene Davis wrote: A few weeks ago, my system suffered an incident involving a full disk during which time there were a number of pretty major looking runq related errors. Since then, my system has been unable to clear out the mail queue. I have resorted to using the smtp-mail.el facility in emacs. Can someone advise whether there is some file that may have become corrupted during such an incident, that would make smail lose its cool? This system has been working reliably for over six months. Alan Davis -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands ---===+++#+++===--- if a close inspection should show that the supposed hand-wrought spoon were in reality only a clever imitation of hand-wrought goods, but an imitation so cleverly wrought as to give the same impression of line and surface to any but a minute examination by a trained eye, the utility of the article, including gratification which the user derives from its contemplation as an object of beauty, would immediately decline by some eighty or ninety percent, or even more --Thorsten Veblen, _The Theory of the Leisure Class_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832 32S, 116E http: http://rolf.ece.curtin.edu.au/~lindsay debian linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Two Debian 1.3 instability problems
Greetings! Our Debian 1.3 system is quite stable except for two
things:
1) X sessions run along fine for a while, until I must hit some key
sequence which alters the X keymap. The '9' and '(' keys
become unaccessible, and Alt-F4 is no longer recognized as the window
minimization command. I'm using fvwm-95, and the following keyboard
section in my XF86Config:
Section Keyboard
ProtocolStandard
# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line
#Protocol Xqueue
AutoRepeat 500 5
# Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be required
# when using pre-R6 clients
#ServerNumLock
# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#Xleds 1 2 3
# To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift,
# RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock:
LeftAlt Meta
#RightAltModeShift
#RightCtlCompose
#ScrollLock ModeLock
# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
XkbDisable
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#XkbModelpc102
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#XkbModelmicrosoft
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#XkbLayout de
# or:
#XkbLayout de
#XkbVariant nodeadkeys
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#XkbOptions ctrl:swapcaps
# These are the default XKB settings for XFree86
#XkbRulesxfree86
#XkbModelpc101
#XkbLayout us
#XkbVariant
#XkbOptions
XkbKeymap xfree86(us)
EndSection
2) I have a Buslogic SCSI controller running a harddisk and a Wangtek
512MB tape drive. All is well for a few days, until writes to the
tape produce the following syslog errors:
Jun 25 16:40:44 intech4 kernel: Detected scsi tape st0 at scsi0, channel 0, id
4, lun 0
Jun 25 16:40:44 intech4 kernel: st: Can't allocate new tape buffer (nbr 0).
Jun 25 16:40:44 intech4 kernel: No tape buffers allocated at initialization.
Jun 25 16:40:44 intech4 kernel: st: Can't allocate new tape buffer (nbr 0).
Jun 25 16:40:44 intech4 kernel: st0: Can't allocate tape buffer.
Jun 25 16:41:43 intech4 kernel: st: Unloaded.
The user program reports the device as busy, though lsof reports no
program accessing it. I'm running kernel 2.0.30.
Any help with either of these two problems would be most appreciated!
Thanks!
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Re: man permissions
Manoj Srivastava wrote: (diffidently), pardon me, but should the tar at the end of the pipe not have -p, as in tar lcf - / | ( cd /mnt ; tar xvfpsSWU -) --^ which may have preserved permissions? (I threw in the other options which I like). I'll have to play around with this. I wasn't aware that `tar xvf' didn't preserve permissions (I've nerver had problems). But I'm always willing to learn something new! (Gee... Maybe I should reinstall from scratch...) -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Why is pine so slow?
Ah, the wonders of sendmail. In the out-of-the-box configuration of sendmail, it passes mail along in background mode. One might think that this means it does everything in the background. Not so, for a few small details. Sendmail in background mode checks the validity of the destination address through a DNS lookup before returning control to the sending program (i.e. pine). If you don't mind either some delay in actually sending your mail or an increased load on your host, you can make some changes to your sendmail configuration to take advantage of deferred delivery mode (something I use on my host, which is the backup Debian list server, so that I don't get slowness during list processing). In your /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: # default delivery mode O DeliveryMode=background becomes # default delivery mode O DeliveryMode=deferred In your /etc/init.d/sendmail: Q=30m becomes Q=1m or whatever interval you'd like. I run a variant of this on my mailing list server at 3 seconds, but this can get out of hand very quickly unless you use other sendmail tricks to keep sendmail from swamping your machine. I've spent quite some time playing with sendmail, so feel free to ask further questions. I haven't used smail whatsoever, so I doubt I'd be able to help much. Pete Templin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Paul Wade wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Shaya Potter wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro wrote: I use Debian 1.2/Linux 2.0.29 and the Pine 3.96 package. But, when I send mail with it, it is very slow (it takes about 1 ou 2 minutes to send a message). Could it be that the connection with the mail server is slow? If you are on a dial-up and you are using POP3, depending on the speed of your connection, the mail server will take it's sweet time. I'm not so sure, I am using sendmail on my linux box, and pine is slow with it. I get the same with smail and I'm not using a smarthost. I think it could be an smail or pine config thing, because you would think that smail would accept the mail right away and pine would continue. Makes me think that it makes an initial delivery attempt at the time. I know that when I have mail in the retry spool, pine runs normally. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: color_xterm and xfm, where are they?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): For example: I am using mutt for my e-mail. It is configured to colorize cites, WWW-URLs and Mail adresses, but this only works in a linux-console. And how do I get colors in lynx? Make sure your TERM variable is set to xterm-color. Ciao, Martin Wow, thanks. That did the trick. I knew it had to be so simple, but it seems, you have to know how... Yours, Frank .__|#___ ___#|__. o/'`\o |##|M|| ||M |# |M|#_.###M| |M###._#| M| ` M| ' ` |M ,o' |##| ### ### |##| ` MH##HM###MHMH##HM###M| Mb M MbMb dM M| MTTMMTMTTMM| ML__JM___MLML__JM___M| ' --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
plip and other modules give error messages.
I have just posted about some incompatibilities of my aging Debian system, including problems compiling. I have another problem that keeps cropping up, possibly ever since an ill-fated attempt to compile a 3.1.X kernel on a zip disk: Each time this machine boots, it gives messages that three or more modules have unresolved references. One of these is plip.o. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Looks like my library upgrade broke those modules. I need/want plip to network this machine with the planned new one. Can I repair this short of recompiling the kernel? Alan -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands ---===+++#+++===--- if a close inspection should show that the supposed hand-wrought spoon were in reality only a clever imitation of hand-wrought goods, but an imitation so cleverly wrought as to give the same impression of line and surface to any but a minute examination by a trained eye, the utility of the article, including gratification which the user derives from its contemplation as an object of beauty, would immediately decline by some eighty or ninety percent, or even more --Thorsten Veblen, _The Theory of the Leisure Class_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Installing Debian 1.2
On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Robert S. Ross wrote: Would someone PLEASE answer my e-mails and help? I have tried to install Debian Linux, and get stuck in the cfdisk menu. How do I go through this menu, and continue? I would appreciate an answer. I am not a novice at this, since I am running Win 95, NT 4.0 and OS/2 WARP on different partitions, and would like to add Linux to experiment and add to my knowledge. After all, to paraphase a quote; Knowledge is money. :-) It would be helpful to read other mail here if I have something running to work with. Robert, I have more or less the same as you and it's running (WFW311, WIN95, OS/2 Warp and Linux). I start with OS/2 and install the boot manager (primary partition), 2 more primary partitions (WFW311 and WIN95) and a extended partition. In the extended partition I create a logical partition for OS/2. Then I bootup with linux disk and using linux fdisk I create in the free part of the extended partition, the following partition (swap, /, /usr and /home). Then installing linux with lilo in / partition. Voila' work. Now, every time that i start my machine, boot manager appear and I can select one of OS (WFW311 its the default). Be careful, because the boot loader of each OS must stay before the 1024 cilinder (if your disk has more then 1024 cilinders). This limitation its related with the BIOS. Enjoy Paulo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xemacs with auctex
Mario == Mario Olimpio de Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario Hi, Mario I installed xemacs right now. It's nice! But... I Mario couldn't get my latex menus with xemacs, and I think it's Mario because auctex isn't installed. Auctex depends on emacs :( Mario Is there some other way to get those latex menus with Mario xemacs? Or is there some way of getting auctex installed Mario with xemacs? Is this possible? Mario []s, Mario O.de Menezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mario Nuclear and Energetic Research Institute - IPEN-CNEN/SP Mario BRAZIL | | http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario - - Mario http://www.ipen.br | Xemacs already includes auctex (as well as lots of other packages that emacs needs installed separately), so that's not really the problem. I have the following in my .emacs to get auctex loaded and started: ;;; ;;; AucTeX stuff ;;; (require 'tex-site) (setq-default TeX-master nil) ; Query for master file (setq TeX-parse-self t) ; Enable parse on load (setq TeX-auto-save t); Enable parse on save (setq outline-minor-mode-prefix \C-c\C-o) (setq TeX-auto-private /home/npreyer/auto/) (setq TeX-auto-global /usr/lib/xemacs/site-lisp/auctex/auto/) (require 'font-latex) (set-face-foreground 'font-lock-keyword-facemidnightblue) (make-face-bold 'font-lock-keyword-face) (set-face-foreground 'font-latex-bold-face #6920ac) (set-face-foreground 'font-latex-italic-face#6920ac) (set-face-foreground 'font-latex-math-face violetred) (set-face-foreground 'font-latex-sedate-facered2) (set-face-foreground 'font-latex-string-faceorange4) (set-face-foreground 'font-latex-warning-face red) (set-face-foreground 'font-lock-comment-facebrown) (require 'bib-cite) (setq bib-switch-to-buffer-function 'switch-to-buffer-other-frame) All the set-face lines are optional, of course, as is specifying a directory for auto files. Check the paths before trying this! HTH--Norris -- Norris Preyer (541) 962-3310 (office) Physics Program (541) 962-3873 (fax) Eastern Oregon University [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Grande, OR 97850http://physics.eou.edu/npreyer.html *** Linux, for those with an IQ above 95 *** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: focus on afterstep?
I figured it out from talking to a friend who was on the afterstep mailing list. In order for it to work you have to comment the ClickToFocus line out completely and add SloppyFocus. I had tried SloppyFocus by itself before mailing the group, but I guess it needs both: #ClickToFocus 0 SloppyFocus Dennis (or add) the following: SloppyFocus and you will get what you want (Sloppy means the focus is never given to the background, as you probably know). []s, |alo + -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PATH and other environment variables
Christian Meder wrote: Also, setting LS_OPTIONS to something liek --8bit --color=tty -F -T 0 would be nice. The default setup doesn't have a working colour `ls'. See /usr/doc/fileutils/color-ls.gz Thanks. Also, `xterm' doesn't start because it says it can't find the proper termcap entry. rxvt starts okay. This is strange. I never saw this problem on any Debian installation. Unfortunately that doesn't help you :-/ Besides I believe it should look for a terminfo entry instead of termcap. polar# xterm xterm: unable to find usable termcap entry. polar# whereis xterm xterm: /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm /usr/X11R6/man/man1/xterm.1x.gz /usr/X11R6/man/man1/xterm.1x -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Apple Personal LaserWriter (serial non-PS) printer...
DH == Dan Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DH Greetings, I have such a printer, which does not have any sort of DH PostScript support, so I am wondering if there is any way that I DH could use it as some other sort of printer (that is, does it DH emulate anything, or are there any drivers around that could talk DH to it, etc). If ghostscript has support for your printer (see the driver appledmp) you could use it together with the magicfilter package to emulate a postscript printer in your system. -- Emilio C. Lopes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Tecra kernel 2.0.29: PCMCIA unresolved externals
I used the 'tecra' disks as Bruce suggested and Debian 1.3 installed fine on my ThinkPad. Then I tried to get my 3Com PCMCIA Ethernet card to work. Installing the pcmcia-cs_2.9.5-3.deb and pcmcia-modules-2.0.29_2.9.5-2.deb gave me a 'need pcmcia-cs_2.9.5-2' conflict for the second. I forced it to install despite that. Now while booting I get messages like: Starting PCMCIA Services: module/lib/lodule/2.0.29/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.o: unresolved external apm_register_callback_R4e72ac41 module/lib/lodule/2.0.29/pcmcia/i82365.o: ... module/lib/lodule/2.0.29/pcmcia/ds.o: ... By the way... shouldn't this pcmcia stuff show-up in the modules dependencies file? Any ideas? -- Martin Fehlhaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: updating existing partially hosed but working system.
Alan Eugene Davis writes: I have been running this system as partially crippled for several months; because of the small disk space, etc., I cannot afford to do anything potentially risky on this machine AT LEAST until I get it talking to the new machine and back it all up. Not the biggest problem w/ the existing system is that I deleted the /var/lib/dpkg/info/status, etc. files. Since then I have done a few lightweight upgrades. CAN I INSTALL OVER THIS SYSTEM SAFELY USING THE 1.3 or pre-1.3 disks? This is a problem. This is one of dpkgs major databases. Please investigate if your system has made a backup in /var/backups. If not you'll have to re-install everything, but better backup your /etc before. You will run into problems if you try to compile old libraries/headers c. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / Install joe (Joey's Own Editor) correct: Joe's Own Editor / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
updating existing partially hosed but working system.
I am building a new system. This time around, it seems *almost* (tm) to have worked---but I have to send in the motherboard. Meanwhile perhaps I can prepare the existing system for the eventuality. I have been running this system as partially crippled for several months; because of the small disk space, etc., I cannot afford to do anything potentially risky on this machine AT LEAST until I get it talking to the new machine and back it all up. Not the biggest problem w/ the existing system is that I deleted the /var/lib/dpkg/info/status, etc. files. Since then I have done a few lightweight upgrades. CAN I INSTALL OVER THIS SYSTEM SAFELY USING THE 1.3 or pre-1.3 disks? THE BIGGEST PROBLEM is that compiling has been hosed for months, and I consequently gave up months ago on packages I have been compiling regularly for a couple years. Part of the problem seems to be I copied the include files from a linux kernel over a system that had incompatible, older (3.0.x) libraries---I gave up on the whole adventure months ago, waiting until I have a clean install on a system that can take it (ie., more than 200MB disk space). I have posted to this list many times about this confusing problem about kernel headers. I have read many postings, and tried to make sense of it all. But in my mind, it has so far been a confusing and vexing problem. I even installed more recent libc5 development versions, but the compiling problem wouldn't go away. WILL UPGRADING TO 1.3 debian make any difference? I should say that even though I have been using debian linux EXCLUSIVELY since before the great a.out to ELF debacle, I may be forced to abandon ship for another distribution on my new system unless I can make sense of the header issue, as well as debianized sources. You might just say that I am clueless. It's one more level of kludges I don't need to deal with. Thanks for the many times I have received helpful advice on this list. Alan Davis -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands ---===+++#+++===--- if a close inspection should show that the supposed hand-wrought spoon were in reality only a clever imitation of hand-wrought goods, but an imitation so cleverly wrought as to give the same impression of line and surface to any but a minute examination by a trained eye, the utility of the article, including gratification which the user derives from its contemplation as an object of beauty, would immediately decline by some eighty or ninety percent, or even more --Thorsten Veblen, _The Theory of the Leisure Class_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dpkg parse error
David S. Zelinsky writes: The problem seems to be that you're now using epochs while your version of dpkg can't handle them. To fix this just type dpkg --clear-avail # This will empty /var/lib/dpkg/available and get # dpkg back to work dpkg -i .../bo/binary-i386/base/dpkg_*.deb Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / Install joe (Joey's Own Editor) correct: Joe's Own Editor / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Any 1.3 updates yet?
I installed 1.3.0 almost as soon as it became available. I've since seen several updated packages destined for bo/stable/1.3. Yet when I point dselect at ftp.debian.org|select|update, all my packages are current. I'm reasonably sure that some of the updatated packages I've seen announced are applicable to my system, but I suppose it's possible that none of the announced updates would show up as currently installed on my system. 1. Is there some base or required package that has been updated since 1.3.0 release that should have shown up at ftp.debian.org/stable and that dselect should be picking up? 2. If so, is my dselect broke, or have the updates not been released to stable, nonfree, or contrib yet? thanks .kfh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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I ocassionally get emails like the below... ideas? Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] run-parts /etc/cron.daily X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh X-Cron-Env: PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin X-Cron-Env: HOME=/home/root X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=root run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/apache exited with return code 1 dpkg says: ii apache 1.1.3-6Highly versatile, high-performance HTTP serv /etc/cron.daily/apache looks like: #! /bin/sh # apacheRotate the apache logsfiles daily. # [ -d /var/log/apache/. ] || exit 0 umask 022 # Take care of the standard logfiles. cd /var/log/apache # dont rotate the access log, just the error log (keeping stats with analog) #if [ -f access.log ] #then # savelog -c 7 access.log /dev/null # touch /tmp/access.log #fi if [ -f error.log ] then savelog -c 7 error.log /dev/null fi # Send a reload signal to the apache server. if [ -f /var/run/apache/apache.pid ] then kill -1 `cat /var/run/apache/apache.pid` 2/dev/null fi It's intermittent, but when it happens, apache fails to restart correctly. help!? --Zachary -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
smail configuration has been lost after disk full runq errors
A few weeks ago, my system suffered an incident involving a full disk during which time there were a number of pretty major looking runq related errors. Since then, my system has been unable to clear out the mail queue. I have resorted to using the smtp-mail.el facility in emacs. Can someone advise whether there is some file that may have become corrupted during such an incident, that would make smail lose its cool? This system has been working reliably for over six months. Alan Davis -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands ---===+++#+++===--- if a close inspection should show that the supposed hand-wrought spoon were in reality only a clever imitation of hand-wrought goods, but an imitation so cleverly wrought as to give the same impression of line and surface to any but a minute examination by a trained eye, the utility of the article, including gratification which the user derives from its contemplation as an object of beauty, would immediately decline by some eighty or ninety percent, or even more --Thorsten Veblen, _The Theory of the Leisure Class_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: help with dselect again plz
On 25-Jun-97 joost witteveen wrote: Do you want to install the files fetched [y]: Installing files... (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing debian/stable/binary-i386/x11/fl oat bg_1.0-6.deb (--install): files list file for package `mgetty-fax' contains empty filename Errors were encountered while processing: debian/stable/binary-i386/x11/floatbg_1.0-6.deb Processing was halted because there were too many errors. DPKG ERROR I'm not even sure what file I need to edit. Neighter am I. But it may well help if you try to install floatbg by hand: type dpkg -i debian/stable/binary-i386/x11/floatbg_1.0-6.deb I've done that, which made me try installing it via dselect, I perfer to install by hand (where you'll probably have to edit the true path to the binary). If that doesn't work, try to reinstall mgetty-fax, there appears to be something wrong there too (preferalby using the above manual method again). If eighter goes wrong, I'm sure we'll be able to help you better when you give us the error messages produced then. But probably all's well then Same error message when I try install any deb And I can't to find `mgetty-fax' on ftp.debian.org I tried the search engine but it keeps timing out but I think that I would get the same result as the above error msg reason being it happens when it starts reading the database.. Any and All Help is Very Welcome Peter -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
gpc problems
I'm having problems with gpc. ld complains that it cant find -lgpc. I was told that I may be missing a symlink. I checked and found that libgpc.so.2 is linked to libgpc.so.2.8. I thought something must have been screwed up somewhere along the line so I removed gpc, libgpc2, and gpcdoc. I reinstalled and got the following output: Mail/ gpc-doc_2.0-3.deb mail/ test.pas News/ gpc_2.0-3.deb rc2.d/ Packages libgpc2_2.0-3.deb rc6.d/ debian:~# dpkg -i *.deb Selecting previously deselected package gpc-doc. (Reading database ... 91419 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking gpc-doc (from gpc-doc_2.0-3.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package gpc. Unpacking gpc (from gpc_2.0-3.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libgpc2. Unpacking libgpc2 (from libgpc2_2.0-3.deb) ... Setting up gpc-doc (2.0-3) ... Setting up libgpc2 (2.0-3) ... ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so (No such file or directory), skipping Setting up gpc (2.0-3) ... debian:~# What have I missed installing to cause these errors. I checked all the dependencies in the packages file and all checked out. I did recently install libc6. Could this cause a problem with the libc5 requirement? Thanks in advance. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Why is pine so slow?
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Paul Wade wrote: I did this and it works fine. I didn't want to change to a smarthost because smail is set up for my needs. Thanks. On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Colin R. Telmer wrote: sendmail-path=/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi This made my pine lightning fast without the possible problems of using the background sending option. Alternatively, as some others have suggested, you may configure smpt-server instead to make Pine send the message to your SMTP server instead of waiting for sendmail. I used the following in my /etc/pine.conf and /etc/pine.conf.fixed (I couldn't decide...grin): # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server=localhost This fixed the problem for me. It works great with both smail and exim. BTW, I found the following in /usr/doc/pine/tech-notes/config-notes.html: SMTP Servers It is sometimes desireable to set smtp-server=localhost instead of setting sendmail-path to overcome the inability to negotiate ESMTP options when sendmail is invoked with the -t option. Sendmail can also be subject to unacceptable delays due to slow DNS lookups and other problems. Hope this helps. :) Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-Ling[EMAIL PROTECTED] Civil Engineeringhttp://www.ualberta.ca/~foka/ University of Alberta, CanadaKeep smiling! *^_^* -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Policy wrt Important (was Re: dc and bc in Important?)
On 25 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote: OK, then I suspect the policy is at fault. (BTW, I checked it out and I did find dc and bc on SunOS -- I had not known these programs were on other OSs.) Yes, bc and dc have been very standard on most kinds of Unices for a very long time. And being able to do math on the console is indispensable for those of us who don't wear HP 48GX's around our necks. By the current definition of Important: * Sendmail should be there instead of smail since people expect sendmail Sendmail is not a user-level program; i.e., it is very seldom that a user invokes it directly. Furthermore, I believe it is the case that the /usr/sbin/sendmail that ships with smail is argument-compatible with sendmail. * dpkg-dev should not be there since no experienced user of another Unix would expect it No, but it's very important for a Debian Linux distribution. * lilo should not be there because lilo is not part of UNIX No, but it is usually important for Linux distributions in general. You would like to be able to boot your Unix clone, wouldn't you? And: * gcc should be in Important because everybody expects a C compiler * libc5-dev should be there because everybody expects working header files * make should be there, I expect a working make in any Unix * lpr should be there, it is standard with just about any Unix * netbase and netstd should both be there, they are standard on Unix * csh/tcsh should be there (again, standard on various Unices) I am tempted to agree with most of these, but I think the policy developers also have to balance space demands against this. Basically, it seems that this policy doesn't quite apply correctly. Perhaps it should be clarified. -- G. Branden Robinson Purdue University [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Policy wrt Important (was Re: dc and bc in Important?)
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote: OK, then I suspect the policy is at fault. (BTW, I checked it out and I did find dc and bc on SunOS -- I had not known these programs were on other OSs.) Yes, bc and dc have been very standard on most kinds of Unices for a very long time. And being able to do math on the console is indispensable for those of us who don't wear HP 48GX's around our necks. By the current definition of Important: * Sendmail should be there instead of smail since people expect sendmail Sendmail is not a user-level program; i.e., it is very seldom that a user invokes it directly. Furthermore, I believe it is the case that the /usr/sbin/sendmail that ships with smail is argument-compatible with sendmail. I agree (FWIW) sendmail is a bear to configure and a security hazard. Just because everyone else hangs their butts out in the breeze, that does not mean Debian has to. BTW, the next smail release will have anti-relay and other security features. * dpkg-dev should not be there since no experienced user of another Unix would expect it No, but it's very important for a Debian Linux distribution. We are not installing Unix. We are installing Debian Linux. Linux != Unix * lilo should not be there because lilo is not part of UNIX No, but it is usually important for Linux distributions in general. You would like to be able to boot your Unix clone, wouldn't you? Again, we are not installing Unix. And: * gcc should be in Important because everybody expects a C compiler But it is not required or even important to run anything. * libc5-dev should be there because everybody expects working header files But if you have no compiler, why do you need headers. * make should be there, I expect a working make in any Unix Again, unless you need to compile something, there is no need for it. There is no need for any of the above to run debian if the default kernel works. * lpr should be there, it is standard with just about any Unix Agreed. Not because they are part of unix, but because most are going to want to print something at some point. It is a basic computer function thing. * netbase and netstd should both be there, they are standard on Unix Again, agreed but not because it is part of Unix, just about anyone using Linux is going to be on the internet, it is probably how they found out about it. * csh/tcsh should be there (again, standard on various Unices) Not in the default installation. Who uses these anyway? :) George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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I've been interested in learning about Objective C, and figured I'd use
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My question is fairly simple: what link flags am I supposed to use?
A sample session is MIME-attached. Hints and suggestions would be really
appreciated, eh? ;-).
BTW, I'm using libc6-dev here.
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#include Foundation/NSString.h
#include stdlib.h
int main() {
id str = @This is a test.\n;
printf(%s, [str cString]);
return 0;
}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% gcc -Wall -c mytest.m
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% gcc -o mytest mytest.o
mytest.o: In function `main':
mytest.o(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `objc_msg_lookup'
mytest.o: In function `global constructors keyed to main':
mytest.o(.text+0x59): undefined reference to `__objc_exec_class'
mytest.o(.rodata+0x8): undefined reference to
`__objc_class_name_NXConstantString'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% gcc -o mytest mytest.o -lobjc
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.2/libobjc.a(thr-posix.o): In function
`__objc_init_thread_system':
thr-posix.o(.text+0x3b): undefined reference to `pthread_key_create'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.2/libobjc.a(thr-posix.o): In function
`objc_thread_create':
thr-posix.o(.text+0x95): undefined reference to `pthread_create'
thr-posix.o(.text+0xa5): undefined reference to `pthread_detach'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.2/libobjc.a(thr-posix.o): In function
`objc_thread_yield':
thr-posix.o(.text+0xf4): undefined reference to `pthread_yield'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.2/libobjc.a(thr-posix.o): In function
`objc_thread_set_data':
thr-posix.o(.text+0x14e): undefined reference to `pthread_setspecific'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.2/libobjc.a(thr-posix.o): In function
`objc_thread_get_data':
thr-posix.o(.text+0x17a): undefined reference to `pthread_getspecific'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.2/libobjc.a(thr-posix.o): In function
`objc_mutex_trylock':
thr-posix.o(.text+0x2b5): undefined reference to `pthread_mutex_trylock'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% gcc -o mytest mytest.o -lobjc -lpthreads
/usr/lib/libpthreads.so: undefined reference to `__libc_rewinddir'
/usr/lib/libpthreads.so: undefined reference to `__libc_readdir_r'
/usr/lib/libpthreads.so: undefined reference to `___sig_restore'
/usr/lib/libpthreads.so: undefined reference to `__libc_opendir'
/usr/lib/libpthreads.so: undefined reference to `__libc_closedir'
/usr/lib/libpthreads.so: undefined reference to `__libc_seekdir'
/usr/lib/libpthreads.so: undefined reference to `__libc_readdir'
/usr/lib/libpthreads.so: undefined reference to `__libc_telldir'
/usr/lib/libpthreads.so: undefined reference to `___masksig_restore'
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