Checking mail from several ISPs

1998-02-09 Thread Ian Perry
Hi all,

I have set up a Debian system to allow several computers to utilise the one
internet modem line using  IP masquerade, and would like to get linux to
check several email accounts at different ISPs, and route them to a
mailbox, for the relevant win95 desktop to pick them up automatically, at
say 10 minute intervals, while online.

There are several email addresses going to several desktops, but there are
no repeated email addresses.

e.g

collected mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED]    postbox for machine A
collected mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED]  postbox for machine A
collected mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- postbox for machine B

Then the individual machines pick up their mail from the respective
postboxes

Linux is on a dial up connection so the IP never remains constant, so ppl
sending email direct to the machine is not possible.

Can anyone give me some ideas of where to start, and which packages may be
of use ?

I looked for some howto's but nothing really covers this.

Thanks
Ian Perry


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Re: Help please!

1998-02-09 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, mr anonym wrote:

 Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 19:00:11 +0100 (CET)
 From: mr anonym [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.DEBIAN.org
 Subject: Help please!
 Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 18:00:51 +
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.DEBIAN.org
 Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ;
 
 I'm having trouble installing Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 on my computer and I 
 wonder if someone can help me.
 My computer:
 486-JA
 4 MB RAM
 150 MB of free space
 No soundcard/modem installed
 OS at the moment Win 3.11 and DOS 6.2
 
 Im downloading files from 
 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/Debian-1.3/disks-i386/current/
 
 I have reset the comp with the rescue-floppy and everything seemed 
 fine.When i pressed enter at the boot prompt after a while this message 
 came up:
 
 RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0

i believe 4M is too small for standard installation
procedure. Look/ask about special procedure for low-mem systems

 And the computer stops.
 Anyone know what this means?


regards

OK


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Re: Checking mail from several ISPs

1998-02-09 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Ian Perry wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have set up a Debian system to allow several computers to utilise the one
 internet modem line using  IP masquerade, and would like to get linux to
 check several email accounts at different ISPs, and route them to a
 mailbox, for the relevant win95 desktop to pick them up automatically, at
 say 10 minute intervals, while online.
 
 There are several email addresses going to several desktops, but there are
 no repeated email addresses.
 
 e.g
   
   collected mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED]    postbox for machine A
   collected mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED]  postbox for machine A
   collected mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- postbox for machine B
 
 Then the individual machines pick up their mail from the respective
 postboxes
 
 Linux is on a dial up connection so the IP never remains constant, so ppl
 sending email direct to the machine is not possible.
 
 Can anyone give me some ideas of where to start, and which packages may be
 of use ?
 
 I looked for some howto's but nothing really covers this.

Somewhere in the ip-up chain, issue this command,

fetchmail -d 300 --invisible

and in ip-down,

fetchmail -q

Then in root's home dir, create .fetchmailrc:

poll isp1.com proto pop3
user abc pass password is box1 here
poll isp2.com proto pop3
user def pass password is box2 here
poll isp3.com proto pop3
user ghi pass password is box3 here

You should be able to figure out what needs to be changed for your setup.
Obviously, you need fetchmail installed.

I also recommend running exim, and not smail/sendmail.  This way, you could
have the masqueraded machines point their smtp mailer to linux, and have it
the mail either delivered immediately if online, or have it queued if offline.
Smail doesn't work in that instance, and I don't know sendmail.

This is my setup here, except that I only have one user(me!).

Adam



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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-09 Thread John Boggon

-Original Message-
From: Alex Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Monday, 9 February 1998 6:59 am
Subject: Re: Automating PPP with cron?


 Hi,
 I would like to setup my system to do two things.
 To check periodically to see if my PPP connection has died, and redial
 my isp if it has.
 And to disconnect and redial every 6 hours, (my isp doesn't like it if
 you stay one more than 6 hours consecutively).

 What would be the best way to go about implementing this, and how should
 I start going about it?

Add persist option to pppd.

Alex Y.

Is there a way to limit the number of times that the persist option will
redial ?. I don't want my modem blindly redialling if it can't connect,
would drive my phone bill through the roof !.

John


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Re: Checking mail from several ISPs

1998-02-09 Thread Igor Grobman

Install fetchmail, and look over its manpage.  It can do everything you want.

 On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, IP == Ian Perry wrote:

  IP Hi all,

  IP I have set up a Debian system to allow several computers to utilise the
  IP one internet modem line using IP masquerade, and would like to get linux
  IP to check several email accounts at different ISPs, and route them to a
  IP mailbox, for the relevant win95 desktop to pick them up automatically, at
  IP say 10 minute intervals, while online.

  IP There are several email addresses going to several desktops, but there
  IP are no repeated email addresses.

  
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Re: Procmail, qmail and file locking

1998-02-09 Thread Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues
David Maslen writes:
  I'm a bit unsure if it's safe to use procmail with qmail.

qmail only uses flock as a locking mechanism (no dotlocking). If your
procmail binary also uses flock, there should be no problem. Try 'procmail -v'
to check:

Locking strategies: dotlocking, flock()

  If I use vm to view the folders created by procmail directly, this process
  won't occur. I'll be reading a mailbox that could well have something added 
  to it, and that would be bad I think.

You can use procmail delivery folders as vm incoming folders, eg

procmail delivers to ~/folders/DEBIAN, which vm uses as the incoming folder
for ~/folders/debian. Then you can type g to get new mail, without problems.

Try the code attached below in your .vm file (I don't know who wrote it, so
I can't give the due credit). 

There are other solutions as well: 

create a .qmail-debian file that delivers to a Maildir (not Mailbox), make
procmail forward the mail to you-debian and make vm use maildirs. Maildirs
don't require file locking, so you are safe. 

Also, there's a patch to make procmail deliver to maildirs, see www.qmail.org.

HTH,

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;; Since I use procmail to filter my mail, I like to shove my incoming
;; mail to folders. Due to Emacs (and hence VM) locking, it's not wise
;; to view the incoming spool file, so I make procmail dump mail to
;; folders IN ALL CAPS. Then I have VM make spool files from each one of
;; those, except they'll be in all lower case.

(setq vm-spool-files
  (append
   (list
(list vm-primary-inbox
  ~/Mailbox
  (concat vm-primary-inbox .crash)))
   ;; Mailing list inboxes
   ;; I arrange that all my procmail maildrops are in ~/Mail/[A-Z]*
   (mapcar '(lambda (s)
  make the appropriate entry for vm-spool-files
  (list
   (concat vm-folder-directory lists/ s)
   (concat vm-folder-directory lists/ (upcase s))
   (concat vm-folder-directory lists/ s .crash)))
   ;; So I create a vm-spool-files entry for each mail drop
   (mapcar 'downcase 
   (directory-files 
(concat vm-folder-directory lists/)
nil ^[A-Z].+)


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RE: Installing Debian Linux v1.3.1 from July '97

1998-02-09 Thread Mike Barker
I'm not sure, but I would run some HDD diagnostics on your Quantum
drive.  I seems like there may be a problem with your HDD.

Michael Barker
Technician
ATL Systems

 -Original Message-
 From: Alexander Skwar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 09, 1998 11:02 AM
 To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject:  Installing Debian Linux v1.3.1 from July '97
 
 Hello !
 Last night I wanted to install Debian v1.3.1 from July '97 with a
 Kernel v2.0.29.
 After I partitioned my hard disk, the install programm checked my hard
 disk for errors and got a whole lot of them.  It repeated printing:
 
 scsi0: Target 6 underflow - Wanted at least 1024, got 512, residual SG
 count 1.
 
 This started out with a higher number in wanted.
 This message has been printed about 6 times, then:
 
 SCSI disk error: host 0 channel 0 id 6 lun 0 return code = 27070002
 scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:04, sector 1090338
 
 And after that, the scsi bus got resetted.
 
 What does all this mean ?
 
 My hardware:
 - Adaptec 2940 v1.21 with SCSI ID 7
 - Quantum Fireball ST2.1S with SCSI ID 6
 - Plextor 12TSi with SCSI ID 5
 - Teac CD-R 50S with SCSI ID 4
 
 - Hercules Stingray 128/3D
 - Cyrix PR150+ (133 MHz)
 - 32 MB EDO (60ns)
 - Shuttle Soundsystem 48/Wav / HOT-239, chipset: Opti 82c930
 - Teles S0 16.3 ISDN card
 - SimpleNet SN3200 NE-2000 compatible Network adaptor
 
 Thanks for all your help !
 
 
 Bis denne / Have a nice Day
 Alexander Skwar
 
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Re: kernel v2.0.32 make

1998-02-09 Thread Ralph Winslow
Carey Evans wrote:
 
 Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I've recently had to replace my hard disk and re-load bo.  I'm
  working once again, but when I tried to build a new kernel I got
  the message attached.
 
 Is it possible you've gotten a file named -y.o or something like
 that in the modules/ directory somewhere?

Neither in modules nor in any subdirectory of linux.  This is one of the
first things I checked for (even though I couldn't imagine that it might
really have occurred).  I'm REALLY stumped on this one!
 
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Re: Problems with dual boot NT/linux

1998-02-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Feb 05, 1998 at 10:44:41AM +, Abdelrazak YOUNES wrote:
 Well, I tried to use bootpart and it says me that it has restore the NT
 boot sector but when I reboot, the problem remains. I guess that the
 problem is not only due to the boot sector because dos fdisk says that
 he couldn't read my first hard drive. I guess I'll have to re-install NT
 but I can't by now because my NT CD is not available. So, if someone
 knows what's going on please tell me, otherwise I'll wait for my NT CD
 to come back. Anyway, thanks to all the guys who tried to help me.

Can't you use the NT install floppies with the rescue disk you created
during install or with rdisk? You did create the rescue disk, right, like
the Debian installation disk/CDROM warned you to back everything up ... ?


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Re: Hard Install

1998-02-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Feb 04, 1998 at 09:36:06PM +, George R wrote:
 Total time(ftp, making disks from images, formating hard disk, scaning
 disk, and install) under 1.5 hrs.  One problem, I set up myself with the
 wrong user id.
 
 Now I have 2 users.  How do I kill one user?  Yes, I know RTM and the
 HOWTO's.
 
 That was easier than OS/2; about the same as DOS; tons easier than Win95. 
 What is the fuss about?

I agree with your sentiments but I don't think this is really true.
When reinstalling my Microsoft OSs (all 3 -- DOS, 95 and NT) on Saturday
(because I bought a new disk and couldn't find any way to move NT),
it only took about 5 minutes to install 95, and there aren't any hard
questions involved, even with a custom install.


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Problem with python

1998-02-09 Thread Heine DeJager
- Forwarded message from root -
HI Folks,

I have a problem installing python1.4 (hamm), and here follows the output
from trying to run dpkg --configure python-base. 

Setting up python-base (1.4.0-4) ...
  File /usr/lib/python1.4/compileall.py, line 8
import os
 ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
dpkg: error processing python-base (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 python-base

Does anyone know what I should do to correct this?

Thanks

Heine

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Re: single user mode

1998-02-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Feb 05, 1998 at 08:20:32PM +0100, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 If this doesn't work, I don't think you have a choice.
 
 Ofcourse you can always boot into maintenance mode instead of single
 use mode (boot with linux maintenance or linux -b). It will get
 you a root shell directly, without password, and without running _any_
 of the init scripts. Remember that your root file system is read only at
 that point and that not even /proc is mounted ..

Is this different to linux emergency? Emergency does ask for a password here.


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Re: Hard Install

1998-02-09 Thread George R
On 02/09/98 at 03:20 PM, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

On Wed, Feb 04, 1998 at 09:36:06PM +, George R wrote:

 That was easier than OS/2; about the same as DOS; tons easier than Win95. 
 What is the fuss about?

I agree with your sentiments but I don't think this is really true. When
reinstalling my Microsoft OSs (all 3 -- DOS, 95 and NT) on Saturday
(because I bought a new disk and couldn't find any way to move NT), it
only took about 5 minutes to install 95, and there aren't any hard
questions involved, even with a custom install.

Sorry you don't think it is true.  I don't have Win95 at home, but the
last few times I've installed/re-installed Win95, there has been at least
one PNP or Win-something-or-other that didn't work just right.  Had to go
find this that or the other driver.

You are probably using better hardware than I have at work and my friends
have.  I don't have any of the Win-whatevers or PNP anything.  Win95 may
be a 5 min install; just not on anything I've dealt with lately.

Has anyone had Win95 change your CMOS settings?

George

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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-09 Thread Shaleh
Pardon me for being on a soap box.  I work for an ISP.  It costs us $30
for one phone line, not counting our T or anything else.  Our customers
pay anywhere between 10 and 18 dollars a month.  Every one of them that
hogs a line makes us lose money, gives everyone busy signals, and eats
our T's.  If you need dedicated access -- pay for it.  You are only
stealing from the very people you pay for service.  And when you get a
busy signal, remember why.


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Re: file system copying nightmare

1998-02-09 Thread Joel Klecker
At 09:03 + 1998-02-08, David Maslen wrote:
In the past I used a rescue disk, called I think rescue that I got from
the linux archives at sunsite. It's probably a boit out of date by now.
I really should learn how to make my own rescue disk, but it would
be nice if there was a debian one that did what i wanted.

How about a debian script to make one for you? Anyone?

See the `boot-floppies' package.

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Re: Procmail, qmail and file locking

1998-02-09 Thread Sen Nagata
perhaps you will find:

  http://www.qmail.org/qmail-manual-html/man1/preline.html
  
useful...(also searching for 'procmail' at http://www.qmail.org/ may be
helpful)

-sen

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 I'm a bit unsure if it's safe to use procmail with qmail.


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Re: Installation problem

1998-02-09 Thread Charles
Hello,
I found this message may be what I was looking for, but not sure.  Will
this slow down the output to my screen during boot-up? I am having
trouble reading all that is being displayed, and cant get a complete log
of what is occuring at boot time.  There is an error that I am concerned
about during boot, but cant get a chance to read it and its not showing
up in my /var/log/kern.log file or show up in dmesg.  I also would like
to know if anyone knows of any high-end graphics editing programs that
are for linux.  Thank you for any help offered.
Charles K. Rishel

snip
 
 This indicates that the kernal is loading from your hard drive and
 begins execution.  I'd start by booting from the rescue disk, mount
 the root partition, exit to shell and edit /target/etc/init.d/* adding
 an echo Starting filename at the beginning followed by a sleep 3
 so that you can see which of your init scripts are working and which
 is in progress when the system reboots.  Also have a look at
 /etc/inittab
 to see what your default run level is set to.  This is set by a line
 like id:3:initdefault: near the top.  You can put echos only in the
 appropriate init.d files by looking at /etc/rc3.d (for example)and
 see that S10sysklogd links to /etc/init.d/sysklogd, etc.  Then let the
 list know what your results are and we'll proceed.

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Re: teTeX and \noindent

1998-02-09 Thread Carey Evans
Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The teTeX version I have (re)installed is 0.4.

The latest versions just out of hamm that I have are:
% dpkg -l 'tetex*'
ii  tetex-base  0.4pl8-7   teTeX library files
ii  tetex-bin   0.4pl8-4   teTeX binary files
ii  tetex-dev   0.4pl8-4   kpathsea.a and include files for teTeX
ii  tetex-doc   0.4pl8-3   teTeX documentation
ii  tetex-extra 0.4pl8-3   teTeX library files

 LaTeX says This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (C version 6.1).

The version of TeX isn't the problem in this case.  (Wasn't a bug
found in TeX a couple of years ago?)

What are your versions of LaTeX2e and article.cls?  Mine are
1996/12/01 patch level 1 and 1996/10/31 v1.3u.

 This bug was solved almost a year ago.
 (Piet van Oostrum [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 The bug is that \noindent does not work inside a quote. This is particularly 
 annoying for quotes that open a chapter...

Can you mail me some code that demonstrates the problem, and tell me
what to look for, so I can check the latest Debian version?

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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 11:43:15PM -0500, Shaleh wrote:
 Pardon me for being on a soap box.  I work for an ISP.  It costs us $30
 for one phone line, not counting our T or anything else.  Our customers
 pay anywhere between 10 and 18 dollars a month.  Every one of them that
 hogs a line makes us lose money, gives everyone busy signals, and eats
 our T's.  If you need dedicated access -- pay for it.  You are only
 stealing from the very people you pay for service.  And when you get a
 busy signal, remember why.

Pardon me but it is not nice of you to describe your customers in this way.
Your policies should give you a way to deal with the problem; if you want
to have unlimited access (which I gather is the trend in the USA; we have
quite a high amount of time-charging here in Oz), you should have advertised
time limits per day or per call and you should enforce them. You should not
get on your soapbox on a mailing list about it.


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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

On this topic, why not try diald? Instead of keeping my ppp on
 all the time, I have made t so that I never need know whether I am
 connected or not. I just send mail, start a ftp session, or lynx, or
 query dns -- and the connection is brought up seemlessly.

I go to the other extreme -- a couple of minutes of idle ppp
 causes a disconnect. I only use as much of bandwidth as I need -- and
 I also remove most of the bother of ppp connections.

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Installationsproblem mit CD-ROM bei Debian.Linux

1998-02-09 Thread WALTER HOLUBARZ


A01.rtf
Description: application/rtf2


Re: X restarts in different console

1998-02-09 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny
I noticed strictly the sam effect in my bo box... :-(
Wojtek Zabolotny
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On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, mwb wrote:

 
 I normally run X under vt7, however I have had a couple
 instanced where when I exited X, by ctl-alt-backspace,
 it restarts in the next console.  It doesn't always
 seem to do this.  The message on the old screen after
 X exit is:
 received SIGPIPE signal: exiting...
 
 I am running hamm.
 
 Any ideas on how I should 'reset' the screens so X resarts
 in the 'right' screen.
 
 Mark
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Re: Using mgetty automated callback, and the NO CARRIER message.

1998-02-09 Thread Joost Kooij
On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, David Wright wrote:

 I have a chatscript to do callback, which looks like this.
 
 ABORTBUSY
 ABORTNO CARRIER -
 ABORTVOICE
 ABORTNO DIALTONE
ATZ
 OK   ATL1
 OK   ATDT5551212
 ogin:\qmagic-login-id\q
 RING ata
 ogin:
 
 The problem is that if I leave in the arrowed line, it won't work. When I 
 (or it) type magic-login-id, the other end hangs up so that it can call 
 me back, but my modem says NO CARRIER at this point, which aborts the 
 script. Is there a trick to avoid this. (If not, I guess I'll just have to 
 leave it out.)

I do dialback and it works fine for me. You have to leave out the ABORT on
NO CARRIER of course or the chatscript will abort when the other end
hangs up - because you've told it to.

However, with newer ppp's this no longer seems to be sufficient, as
apparently chat bails out if the DCD signal is gone. I have had to add
ATC0 to the modem init strings, to disable DCD signalling by the modem. 

That made dialback work again, the only problem I still have is when
dialling in to another provider without dialback, for which I use other
modem settings. pppd often hangs up right after starting, but it restarts
after a couple of seconds so I haven't really bothered yet to polish
these rough edges.

Cheers,


Joost


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Installproblem Xfree86.

1998-02-09 Thread Joakim Burman
Hello Debian-users!

Can someone help me with some Newbie questions..

1. When I try to install Xfree86 whith gzip I got (I think) an errormessage
like Broken Pipe. What does that mean?
2. How do you run shell script? In Howto:s for Xfree86 they say you want
to run the shellscript preinst.sh first of all but I don«t now how to do
that.
3. It don«t seems that I have the manual-klient man. What packagename is
that manual-klient?
When I try to run with startx as root the message I get is:

xinit: Can«t load library «/lib/libc.so.4« Incompatible version.

In my /lib/ I only have libc.so.5
What«s wrong?

Many thanks



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Re: Using mgetty automated callback, and the NO CARRIER message.

1998-02-09 Thread Carey Evans
Joost Kooij [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 However, with newer ppp's this no longer seems to be sufficient, as
 apparently chat bails out if the DCD signal is gone. I have had to add
 ATC0 to the modem init strings, to disable DCD signalling by the modem. 

% man chat
[...]
HANGUP
   The  HANGUP  options control whether a modem hangup should
   be considered as an error or not.  This option  is  useful
   in  scripts  for  dialling  systems which will hang up and
   call your system back.  The HANGUP options can  be  ON  or
   OFF.

Does this work?

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Re: www.debian.org trouble

1998-02-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Feb 06, 1998 at 09:54:25PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 06, 1998 at 12:45:47PM -0800, Adam Klein wrote:
  Somehow, the the Debian web site has been pointed at the
  Berlin Project's web site, and theirs ahs been pointed
  at www.us.debian.org.  Has anyone else noticed this, and is
  anything being done about it?
 
 www.debian.org is restored.
 
 The apache config was modified with errors.  We're about to
 fix it.

This happened to me when I was playing with non-IP virtual servers.
Apache's root server appears to become inaccessible as soon as you
add such a virtual server. I had to add a virtual server for what
was originally the root server to get it to work.

I find Apache's treatment of servers as either the root or virtual
to be a bit annoying. Virtual servers don't seem to be able to override
things done in the root; sometimes I might not want to use an ErrorDocument
on a virtual server for example, while I want one on the root. I think that
all servers should be on equal footing.


Hamish
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Re: file system copying nightmare

1998-02-09 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Craig Sanders wrote:

 On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
  I'm having a nightmare trying to copy my root file system to its new
  home. If I mount the original as / and the new one as /mnt, both
  
  cp -ax /* /mnt
  
  and 
  
  ( cd /; tar clvf - * ) | ( cd /mnt; tar xf - )
  
  attempt to copy /mnt anyway, and /proc too. ie, the -x and -l switches
  to cp and tar respectively appear to be ignored.
 
 that's because you're TELLING cp and tar to copy /mnt.  * matches
 everything, remember...so cp -af /* /mnt means copy everything in /
 (including /mnt) to /mnt.

Everything except filenames starting with a dot... 

Try echo * vs. echo * .* in your $HOME and notice why you should never
backup you home dir with cd ~ ; tar c * (made this mistake myself once.) 

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: Installproblem Xfree86.

1998-02-09 Thread Igor Grobman
Please use the debian packages of X, not the tarballs distributed by XFree86.  
See http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom?file=21 for instructions.


 On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, JB == Joakim Burman wrote:

  JB Hello Debian-users!

  JB Can someone help me with some Newbie questions..

  JB 1. When I try to install Xfree86 whith gzip I got (I think) an
  JB errormessage like Broken Pipe. What does that mean?  2. How do you
  JB run shell script? In Howto:s for Xfree86 they say you want to run the
  JB shellscript preinst.sh first of all but I don«t now how to do that.
  JB 3. It don«t seems that I have the manual-klient man. What packagename
  JB is that manual-klient?  When I try to run with startx as root the
  JB message I get is:
  ...

 
 
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Re: Procmail, qmail and file locking

1998-02-09 Thread Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues
Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues writes:
  David Maslen writes:
I'm a bit unsure if it's safe to use procmail with qmail.
  
  qmail only uses flock as a locking mechanism (no dotlocking). If your
  procmail binary also uses flock, there should be no problem. Try 'procmail
  -v' to check:
  
  Locking strategies: dotlocking, flock()

Forgot to mention that if all your mail goes to procmail (qmail doesn't do
deliveries) then you shouldn't worry about procmail not using flock.

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Re: xemacs 20.3 slow load

1998-02-09 Thread Gerald Wann
Hi-

Many thanks to those who have commented thus far on the xemacs slow load post.
Being relatively new to Linux, i am still slogging thru the process of
analyzing why
the load takes so long on my machine.

In particular, i have just run an strace on the program as it loads, and it
gives me about
280k worth of text file on the system calls, many of which are mysterious
to a newbie
like me.

If find particularly interesting any lines in the file where a timeout
occurs. I have attached
a snippet below, which is repeated many times in the load process. Could
anyone shed
light on just what is happening here?

I will continue to try and understand  analyze the file in the meantime.

Many thanks again
Jerry


***
snip

sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x80d7810, [], SA_INTERRUPT}, {0x80d7810, [],
SA_INTERRUPT}) = 0
setitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={0, 0}}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({887026195, 850087}, {300, 1}) = 0
gettimeofday({887026195, 850337}, {300, 1}) = 0
gettimeofday({887026195, 850578}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({887026195, 850831}, NULL) = 0
oldselect(5, [4], [], [], {0, 0})   = 0 (Timeout)
gettimeofday({887026195, 852457}, NULL) = 0
oldselect(5, [4], [], [], {0, 0})   = 0 (Timeout)
gettimeofday({887026195, 854022}, NULL) = 0
oldselect(5, [4], [], [], {0, 995556})  = 0 (Timeout)
gettimeofday({887026196, 858258}, NULL) = 0
setitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={0, 0}}, NULL) = 0
setitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={15, 0}}, NULL) = 0
uname({sys=Linux, node=zeropoint, ...}) = 0
open(/etc/hosts, O_RDONLY)= 6
fstat(6, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=39, ...}) = 0
mmap(0, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0x4000
read(6, 127.0.0.1\tzeropoint\n127.0.0.1\t..., 4096) = 39
read(6, , 4096)   = 0
read(6, , 4096)   = 0
close(6)= 0
munmap(0x4000, 4096)= 0
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_IP) = 6
connect(6, {sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(53),
sin_addr=inet_addr(163.125.1.2)}, 16) = -1 ENETUNREACH (Network is
unreachable)
close(6)= 0
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_IP) = 6
sendto(6, ,#\1\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\tlocalhos..., 37, 0,
{sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(53),
sin_addr=inet_addr(163.125.1.1)}, 16) = -1 ENETUNREACH (Network is
unreachable)
close(6)= 0

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Re: xemacs 20.3 slow load (follow up)

1998-02-09 Thread Gerald Wann
Hi -

I just started up xemacs while connected to my ISP and it came up in
under 3 seconds!

The timeouts (there are 225 of them) i reported previously are apparently
related to unsuccessful attempts to connect to my ISP while i am offline!

Is there a way to instruct xemacs not to try and connect the socket?

Progress!

Thanks again
Jerry



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Re: Using mgetty automated callback, and \q

1998-02-09 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:
  Take out the trailing \q.. that turns the echo back on.
 
 I see. Yes, I think I need the second \q before the ata to resume logging 
 real strings.
 However, using just a single \q suppresses the first occurrence but not 
 the second, viz.
 
 Feb  6 18:08:30 here chat[960]: there!login: -- got it 
 Feb  6 18:08:30 here chat[960]: send (??) 
 Feb  6 18:08:30 here chat[960]: expect (RING) 
 Feb  6 18:08:30 here chat[960]:  magic-login-id^M 
 Feb  6 18:08:30 here chat[960]: ^M

A \q will only supress anything that chat _sends_ - the second
occurrence of magic-login-id happens because chat is seeing
magic-login-id as the remote machine is sending it back; note the
preceding space - that space is the space the remote machine sends
immediately after sending login: - chat is just echoing to the logs
what it's getting from the remote machine.  I don't think that there's 
anything you can do about that, short of modifying pon to call chat
without the -v option, which is probably not advisable.  If there's
something you want kept out of the logs, the other machine shouldn't
be echoing it back at you.


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Re: Emacs Menu/Scrollbar Color

1998-02-09 Thread Dale Smith
On Sun, 08 Feb 1998 11:53:08 +0100 (CET), you wrote:

Hi all,

I'd like to use GNU Emacs under X with a black background and white foreground.
The problem is, this should be true of the menubar as well, but Xresources
background  foreground don't do the job. (It's possible, though: I saw a
screenshot.) And can I set the scrollbar color separately? (This seems to be an
unrelated problem: the aforementioned Xresources _do_ affect the scrollbar.) I
couldn't find the relevant information in the man pages or info documents. Any
ideas?

This may help.  At work I use emacs on solaris, and the menus had a funky
stipple border instead of a cool motif-like shadow look.  I started poking
around with editres and found a few things.  Then I poked around in the source
to emacs to see how the resources were being used.

I now have this is my .Xdefaults file:

!Setting menu background turns off ugly stipple shadows.
Emacs*XlwMenu*background:  gray75

If debian has editres (or something better) try that to see what resources are
availiable and experiment.

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Re: Installproblem Xfree86.

1998-02-09 Thread Oliver Elphick
Joakim Burman wrote:
  Hello Debian-users!
  
  Can someone help me with some Newbie questions.. 
  
  1. When I try to install Xfree86 whith gzip I got (I think) an errormessage 
  like Broken Pipe. What does that mean? 

It probably means that gzip tried to pipe its output to a command that
never got started.  For example:

   $ ls -lR | rubbish
   bash: rubbish: command not found
   Broken pipe

  2. How do you run shell script? In Howto:s for Xfree86 they say you want 
  to run the shellscript preinst.sh first of all but I don«t now how to do 
  that.

If the script is executable, just type its pathname relative to the current
directory: `./preinst.sh' (if its in a directory on your search path, you can
just type its name); if it isn't executable you can do `. ./preinst.sh'
or else make it executable.

  3. It don«t seems that I have the manual-klient man. What packagename is 
  that manual-klient?

$ dpkg -S `type -p man`
man-db: /usr/bin/man
^^

So install man-db.

  When I try to run with startx as root the message I get is:
  
  xinit: Can«t load library «/lib/libc.so.4« Incompatible version.
  
Where did you get this copy of Xfree86 from?  If you're using Debian, you 
should install xbase, the appropriate xserver-??? and a font package (which
dselect ought to suggest to you). It looks as though you are trying to
install a non-Debian version; this is not really a good idea.

  In my /lib/ I only have libc.so.5
  What«s wrong?

libc.so.4 is the aout format libc, which is out of date as far as the bo
(stable) distribution is concerned.  You appear to be running bo (??)

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dselect and ftp: Packages file not found

1998-02-09 Thread Marc Fleureck
Hi,

If I use dselect with ftp access, it complains about a missing 
Packages[.gz], although I am sure it's there (I checked this 
manually with ftp). Here are the details:

ftpsite=ftp.eunet.be
username=anonymous
ftpdir=/pub/linux/debian
distribs=bo

It sais: Cd to /pub/linux/debian/...
  Getting Packages file from 
  /pub/linux/debian/bo/binary-i386 
  Couldn't find Packages[.gz] in samedir, stopped

I tried to trace the script /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/update, but
couldn't find a way (like set -xv).

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[Q] cannot print

1998-02-09 Thread Vladislav Papayan x285
Hello,
Some how, after installing and configuring debian's hamm snop-shot
of December 19's -- I cannot print.  
I have Okidata with HP emulation and just a simple command like
cp text.file /dev/lp0 -- kind of starts the printer -- the printer
displays that it is receiving data and then nothing happens.
I use kernel 2.1.85 and have a parallel port drive built in the kernel.


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Re: xemacs 20.3 slow load

1998-02-09 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Gerald Wann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi- Many thanks to those who have commented thus far on the xemacs
 slow load post.

 Being relatively new to Linux, i am still slogging thru the process
 of analyzing why the load takes so long on my machine.
 
 In particular, i have just run an strace on the program as it loads,
 and it gives me about 280k worth of text file on the system calls,
 many of which are mysterious to a newbie like me.
 
 If find particularly interesting any lines in the file where a
 timeout occurs. I have attached a snippet below, which is repeated
 many times in the load process. Could anyone shed light on just what
 is happening here?
 
 I will continue to try and understand  analyze the file in the meantime.

snip

Hmm... - it appears that xemacs is attempting to do a dns lookup, and
that's the connection that's taking so long.  If you had a bo machine, 
I'd ask you what your /etc/host.conf said, (and make certain it had
the line order hosts,bind at the top) but I know that in hamm the 
configuration for name lookups has changed a bit - does anyone know
what you need to do on a hamm box to be certain that gethostbyname()
doesn't produce a dns query if a given name is found in /etc/hosts?


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Re: Using mgetty automated callback, and the NO CARRIER message.

1998-02-09 Thread Joost Kooij
On 9 Feb 1998, Carey Evans wrote:

 Joost Kooij [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  However, with newer ppp's this no longer seems to be sufficient, as
  apparently chat bails out if the DCD signal is gone. I have had to add
  ATC0 to the modem init strings, to disable DCD signalling by the modem. 
 
 % man chat
 [...]
 HANGUP
The  HANGUP  options control whether a modem hangup should
be considered as an error or not.  This option  is  useful
in  scripts  for  dialling  systems which will hang up and
call your system back.  The HANGUP options can  be  ON  or
OFF.
 
 Does this work?

I didn't know that one, but I'll look into it. It certainly looks much 
more elegant. Thanks!

Cheers,


Joost


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Help (my first crash)

1998-02-09 Thread Christopher Judd
I'm a relative newcomer to linux (used Amiga's for years).  I've
been running a bo system for about six months.  This morning the system
crashed and will not boot from the hard disk.  I booted from the rescue 
disk but cannot mount /hda3 (/hda1=w95, /hda2=swap).  e2ckfs reports a 
bad superblock.  Is there a way to create a new superblock so that I can 
mount this drive?

-Chris



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Re: xemacs 20.3 slow load

1998-02-09 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:

 Gerald Wann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  If find particularly interesting any lines in the file where a
  timeout occurs. I have attached a snippet below, which is repeated
  many times in the load process. Could anyone shed light on just what
  is happening here?
 
 Hmm... - it appears that xemacs is attempting to do a dns lookup, and
 that's the connection that's taking so long.  If you had a bo machine, 
 I'd ask you what your /etc/host.conf said, (and make certain it had
 the line order hosts,bind at the top) but I know that in hamm the 
 configuration for name lookups has changed a bit - does anyone know
 what you need to do on a hamm box to be certain that gethostbyname()
 doesn't produce a dns query if a given name is found in /etc/hosts?

I needed to add an entry into /etc/nswitch.conf.

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Re: More that 64 Mb memory

1998-02-09 Thread dA' Phucilage Phactory
On 29 Dec 1997, Douglas Bates wrote:

 I have searched the FAQ's but I still can't find the answer to this
 one.  I have a new machine with 128 Mb. of memory.  When I boot a
 standard kernel using the standard lilo configuration from Debian the
 kernel reports only 64 Mb of memory.  Could someone tell me what I
 change to have the kernel recognize the full available memory

append=mem=128M === add this in your /etc/lilo.conf, mine is like this:
append=mem=80M
boot=/dev/hda
root=/dev/hda1
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
blah blah blah blah blah etc


 
 Also, this is a dual-processor system.  If I look at /proc/cpuinfo it
 seems to be reporting only one processor.  Could someone please remind 
 me how to check if both processors are being used?

as for dual processor i'm not sure yet, i'm upgrading to a dual processor
machine as well, if i get the info on how to utilize both via a patch or
what not, i'll let you know

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Re: Help (my first crash)

1998-02-09 Thread Tim Sailer
Christopher Judd wrote:
 
   I'm a relative newcomer to linux (used Amiga's for years).  I've
 been running a bo system for about six months.  This morning the system
 crashed and will not boot from the hard disk.  I booted from the rescue 
 disk but cannot mount /hda3 (/hda1=w95, /hda2=swap).  e2ckfs reports a 
 bad superblock.  Is there a way to create a new superblock so that I can 
 mount this drive?

You have backup superblocks on the disk for just this reason. You can
try e2fsck -b 8192 /dev/hda3 and see if that helps.

Tim

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Re: Help (my first crash)

1998-02-09 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Fortunately, the filesystem keeps numerious copies of the superblock on the
disk. You just need to find out where they are! Actually, the locations of
backup superblocks are printed to the screen when the filesystem is created
(not that this helps you now, right). If I remember correctly though,
superblocks are place at regular, predictable places on the parttion. As an
exercise, try creating a filesystem on a floppy drive and watch where the
superblocks are place. On my system I create a 10MB file and the make an
Ext2 filesystem on it and get:

chilin$ dd if=/dev/zero of=fs.bin bs=1024 count=10240
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
chilin$ mke2fs fs.bin
mke2fs 1.10, 24-Apr-97 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
fs.bin is not a block special device.
Proceed anyway? (y,n) y
Linux ext2 filesystem format
Filesystem label=
2560 inodes, 10240 blocks
512 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=1
Block size=1024 (log=0)
Fragment size=1024 (log=0)
2 block groups
8192 blocks per group, 8192 fragments per group
1280 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks:
8193

Writing inode tables: done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done
chilin$

So, try to run fsck like 'e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/XXX' and see what you get. If
that doesn't net you anything you might try to guess where another
superblock will be. Or, you could try something more drastic. The mke2fs man
page talk about a '-S' option:

   -S Write superblock and group descriptors only.   This
  is  useful  if  all  of  the  superblock and backup
  superblocks are corrupted, and a last-ditch  recov­
  ery  method is desired.  It causes mke2fs to reini­
  tialize the superblock and group descriptors, while
  not  touching  the  inode  table  and the block and
  inode bitmaps.  The e2fsck program  should  be  run
  immediately after this option is used, and there is
  no guarantee that any data will be salvageable.

Good luck (from someone else who was trying to bring back a failing disk
from the brink this weekend).

Christopher Judd wrote:

 I'm a relative newcomer to linux (used Amiga's for years).  I've
 been running a bo system for about six months.  This morning the system
 crashed and will not boot from the hard disk.  I booted from the rescue
 disk but cannot mount /hda3 (/hda1=w95, /hda2=swap).  e2ckfs reports a
 bad superblock.  Is there a way to create a new superblock so that I can
 mount this drive?

 -Chris

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RE: xfmail 1.2p0-1 seg-faults

1998-02-09 Thread Paul Rightley
I have noticed that this version of xfmail does produce more segfaults
than earlier versions.  However, I have not had this trouble with new
mail (until one time this morning, of course).  I have not seen any
segfaults from folder changes.  I am using hamm.

Paul

On 08-Feb-98 Stefan Baums wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm running xfmail 1.2p0-1 under hamm (i.e., I think all the other packages
 which I think _might_ be relevant to this problem are from hamm). When xfmail
 has to deal with new mail (in this new version marked in pink) on startup (or
 even folder change (?)) it crashes with a Segmentation fault. When I restart
 it, the new mail is no longer considered new (and not pink anymore) and
 xfmail
 works fine (until the next new mail arrives, that is). Could this even be an
 upstream problem?
 
 Have a nice day,
 Stefan
  

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winhelp file viewer

1998-02-09 Thread Remco van de Meent
Hi,

Anyone knows of a (if possible, Linux) program which can show me Windows
HLP-files? So not winhelp.exe :-)  Maybe something that is capable of
converting a HLP-file to HTML? I don't have the RTF-documents of the
HLP-file.


Any ideas?


thanks, Remco


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Re: www.debian.org trouble

1998-02-09 Thread James A . Treacy
 This happened to me when I was playing with non-IP virtual servers.
 Apache's root server appears to become inaccessible as soon as you
 add such a virtual server. I had to add a virtual server for what
 was originally the root server to get it to work.
 
That you need a virtual server for the original root server is not
stated explicitly, but is shown in the examples in the docs.

 I find Apache's treatment of servers as either the root or virtual
 to be a bit annoying. Virtual servers don't seem to be able to override
 things done in the root; sometimes I might not want to use an ErrorDocument
 on a virtual server for example, while I want one on the root. I think that
 all servers should be on equal footing.
 
Can't this be done using per-directory options?

- Jay


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modem-netcard X modem+netcard?

1998-02-09 Thread Fernando Tadeu C Brandt
I have to decide between an integrated modem and net card
(like 3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN+56K) or a us robotics modem
card plus a 3com pci net card. Since I am going to use both 
modem and net card simultaneously (I will be connecting from home
using ppp), I would like to know which option would 
be better supported by Debian.

   Fernando T. C. Brandt

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Making X a command center

1998-02-09 Thread IBMackey
I'm about 2 months into using debian linux so I still use a lot of dos
programs. I devised this shell script that allows me to make X a command
center that can call and open full consoles with programs already loaded.
It supposedly relieves me from having to open the console, remember which
one is open and where to switch to. It's about 90% ripe. This is my first
script, so help me out a little.

  SCRIPT FOLLOWS =
# Find out what processes are ongoing
# Setup beginning virtual screen, why doesn't 10 work?, oh well.
ps /tmp/process
myprog=$1
begnum=11

# (1) Check for command line program name
if test -z $myprog
then
exit
fi

# (2) First check to see if any console programs have been run

if test ! -e /tmp/console.dat# If console.dat doesn't exist
then
echo $myprog $begnum  /tmp/console.dat
open -c $begnum -s -l -- $myprog
exit
fi

# (3) If file does exist, then check to see if our program is already
# listed in the console.dat
 
grep -hiw $myprog /tmp/console.dat  /tmp/play
mycode=$?

# (4) Nonsuccessful search, mycode =1
# Let's get the last number in the file, add 1 to it
# Add program name and new number to file
# Finally open a new virtual number

if test $mycode -eq 1
then
tail -1l /tmp/console.dat  /tmp/play
read x y  /tmp/play
let newnum = $y + 1
echo $myprog $newnum  /tmp/console.dat  
open -s -c $newnum -l -- $myprog   #Open Program in another virtual 
console
exit
fi

# (5) If successful search, mycode = 0
# Now let's see if the program is a process on the computer
# You see, we could have erased it (Our system doesn't automaticly update
# the console.dat file)
read x y  /tmp/play   
grep -hiqw $y /tmp/process#Search for the whole process number
process=$?
#
# If both mycode and process register exit codes of 0, we got it

if test $mycode -eq 0 -a $process -eq 0
then
switchto $y
exit
fi

# If just mycode shows, use the same VC and restart program
if test $mycode -eq 0
then
read x y  /tmp/play
open -s -c $y -l -- $myprog
exit
fi
exit
== END OF SCRIPT =

Now I've got a few problems?

1) On loading Midnight Commander, function keys don't work
2) Pine, my favorite, no color (even though setterm is there), aborts
   and disappears
3) I get no login requests (so I don't know if this program), for
instance, I would prefer dosemu to be suid root.
4) Do I need to deallocate memory after quitting a file. If so, where are
the debian utils for doing so?

Any answers, suggestions, or improvements ???

Thankx
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How do I convert data e-mailed from a mac?

1998-02-09 Thread Tony
Hello,

I have been sent files of this sort:

jpmaster.dvi
This is a application/mac-binhex40

Is there a utility that will convert these? Is it available in a Debian 
package?

Thank you

Tony



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Re: How do I convert data e-mailed from a mac?

1998-02-09 Thread dpk
Dvi is a 'tex' extension I believe.  You can convert this to a postscript
file with the command 'dvips'.

Dennis
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On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Tony wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have been sent files of this sort:
 
   jpmaster.dvi
 This is a application/mac-binhex40
 
 Is there a utility that will convert these? Is it available in a Debian 
 package?
 
 Thank you
 
 Tony
 
 
 
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SCSI

1998-02-09 Thread Greg Green
Hello all:

I am having problems detecting my scsi drives.  I have three drives all
jumpered correctly and I recompiled the kernel for raid5, and also for
my correct scsi controller.  I installed the correct raid145 patch, and
raidtools, and the latest linuxthreads. The problem is that I cannot
mkfs or mdcreate on these drives. I cannot even fdisk them, I keep
getting unable to open /dev/sda.  The PC Bios detects the SCSI card on
boot up, but then Linux detects 0 scsi.  I have a NCR53875J SCSI
controller.
Below is my dmesg, I would appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks,
Greg Green

Below is my dmesg, I would appreciate any suggestions.

Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fae70
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfb310
pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb340
Probing PCI hardware.
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 59.80 BogoMIPS
Memory: 63160k/65536k available (772k kernel code, 384k reserved, 1220k
data)
Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized

Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.

Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled.
moving IDT ...  ... done
Linux version 2.0.32 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.1) #1 Mon Feb 9
07:11:26 MST 1998
Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed.
Real Time Clock Driver v1.07
ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f
hda: ST32140A, 2015MB w/128kB Cache, CHS=1023/64/63
hdc: 655A, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
linear personality registered
raid0 personality registered
raid1 personality registered
raid5 personality registered
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation)
TCP compression code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of
California
PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc.
PPP line discipline registered.
eth0: 3Com 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0x6100, 00:60:08:04:3c:f8, IRQ
11
  8K word-wide RAM 3:5 Rx:Tx split, autoselect/MII interface.
eth0: MII transceiver found at address 24.
  Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
eth0: Overriding PCI latency timer (CFLT) setting of 32, new value is
248.
3c59x.c:v0.46C 10/14/97 Donald Becker
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2  hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Adding Swap: 130748k swap-space (priority -1)
Module inserted $Id: cdrom.c,v 0.8 1996/08/10 10:52:11 david Exp $
eexpress.c: Module autoprobe not recommended, give io=xx.
loading device 'eth1'...
eexpress.c: Failed to register card at 0x0.





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Re: SCSI

1998-02-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Greg Green wrote:

: Hello all:
: 
: I am having problems detecting my scsi drives.  I have three drives all
: jumpered correctly and I recompiled the kernel for raid5, and also for
: my correct scsi controller.  I installed the correct raid145 patch, and
: raidtools, and the latest linuxthreads. The problem is that I cannot
: mkfs or mdcreate on these drives. I cannot even fdisk them, I keep
: getting unable to open /dev/sda.  The PC Bios detects the SCSI card on
: boot up, but then Linux detects 0 scsi.  I have a NCR53875J SCSI
: controller.
: Below is my dmesg, I would appreciate any suggestions.
: Thanks,
: Greg Green

You need to compile the correct driver into the kernel.  It is ncr8xx,
not ncr7,8xx ... this drove me crazy for a day or two.  We're running an
NCR53875 here, though I don't know if I like it yet.

HTH

: Below is my dmesg, I would appreciate any suggestions.
: 
: Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
: Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
: pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fae70
: pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfb310
: pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb340
: Probing PCI hardware.
: Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 59.80 BogoMIPS
: Memory: 63160k/65536k available (772k kernel code, 384k reserved, 1220k
: data)
: Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
: NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
: Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
: IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
: VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized
: 
: Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
: 
: Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
: Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled.
: moving IDT ...  ... done
: Linux version 2.0.32 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.1) #1 Mon Feb 9
: 07:11:26 MST 1998
: Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
: Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
: tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
: tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
: PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed.
: Real Time Clock Driver v1.07
: ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007
: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f
: hda: ST32140A, 2015MB w/128kB Cache, CHS=1023/64/63
: hdc: 655A, ATAPI CDROM drive
: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
: FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
: md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
: linear personality registered
: raid0 personality registered
: raid1 personality registered
: raid5 personality registered
: scsi : 0 hosts.
: scsi : detected total.
: PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation)
: TCP compression code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of
: California
: PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc.
: PPP line discipline registered.
: eth0: 3Com 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0x6100, 00:60:08:04:3c:f8, IRQ
: 11
:   8K word-wide RAM 3:5 Rx:Tx split, autoselect/MII interface.
: eth0: MII transceiver found at address 24.
:   Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
: eth0: Overriding PCI latency timer (CFLT) setting of 32, new value is
: 248.
: 3c59x.c:v0.46C 10/14/97 Donald Becker
: http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
: Partition check:
:  hda: hda1 hda2  hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 
: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
: Adding Swap: 130748k swap-space (priority -1)
: Module inserted $Id: cdrom.c,v 0.8 1996/08/10 10:52:11 david Exp $
: eexpress.c: Module autoprobe not recommended, give io=xx.
: loading device 'eth1'...
: eexpress.c: Failed to register card at 0x0.
: 
: 
: 
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On the fly compression with ext2

1998-02-09 Thread Ulisses Alonso Camaro
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I would like to know when there will be ext2 on the fly file compression,
supported in the kernel, ext2 has already support but kernel seems to not
support it yet, nor the 2.1.8x kernels...

Does this will be introduced prior 2.2 version?

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Thanks in advance,

Ulisses


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HELP: tkdesk not appearing on desktop

1998-02-09 Thread Albert Hurd
After using tkdesk successfully for two months, the following problem
just arose. When I call up tkdesk from an xterm, the initialization
window appears and then, instead of appearing as usual, the tkwindow
is nowhere to be found, even though ps shows it is active. I have tried
to reinstall using dselect but still doesn't work.
I am using Debian 1.3.1.
 Any help would be much appreciated.

Albert Hurd


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xauth for my wife over my xdm X-windows session?

1998-02-09 Thread Jameson Burt
I leave my xdm X-windows session running 24 hours a day.
My wife uses Linux for a few minutes each day.
I could give her permissions to run X-windows applications on top of my 
X-windows session with
xhost +localhost
but xauth is considered more secure and does not receive complaints from the 
exmh application.

It seems reasonable to me that anyone physically at my computer could run zher 
X-windows applications on top of my X-windows session.
Unfortunately, I see no way to easily do this or to give just my wife access, 
and have only come up with a kludge myself.  Since xdm creates a new entry in 
.Xauthority each time I login through the xdm X-manager, I can not make 
entries into other users' .Xauthority just one time, expecting that entry to 
work in the future.  Since .Xauthority does not provide read permission to 
other users, they can not get X-windows permissions from me and I can not give 
those permissions to them without becoming root.  The standard method to 
export permissions is designed for the same user on different computers; 
perhaps by giving rsh permissions through ~/.rhosts. This standard approach 
runs a script like the following, inappropriate for another user,
xauth extract - $DISPLAY   |rsh otherhost2 xauth merge -
IS THERE A SLICK WAY TO GIVE MY WIFE OR ALL USERS PHYSICALLY AT MY COMPUTER, 
X-WINDOWS AUTHORIZATION TO RUN X-WINDOWS APPLICATIONS ON TOP OF MY X-WINDOWS 
SESSION?

Here is my kludge.

In .bashrc, a user gets the authorizations from zhe who started X-windows, 
xowner=$(/bin/ps -auxw|grep Xsession|egrep -v 'sed|grep' \
   |sed 's/\([^ ]\) .*/\1/')
if [ $xowner != $USER ]; then
eval   xauth merge ~$xowner/.Xauthority
fi

In .xsession, the starter of X-windows gives permissions for another user to 
read .Xauthority,
chmod g+r ~/.Xauthority#This line is unnecessary after first set.
chgrp dialout ~/.Xauthority  #both my wife and I are in this group

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Re: xemacs 20.3 slow load

1998-02-09 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
 On Mon, 09 Feb 1998 10:40:18 EST, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
  On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:
  
   Hmm... - it appears that xemacs is attempting to do a dns lookup, and
   that's the connection that's taking so long.  If you had a bo machine, 
   I'd ask you what your /etc/host.conf said, (and make certain it had
   the line order hosts,bind at the top) but I know that in hamm the 
   configuration for name lookups has changed a bit - does anyone know
   what you need to do on a hamm box to be certain that gethostbyname()
   doesn't produce a dns query if a given name is found in /etc/hosts?
  
  I needed to add an entry into /etc/nswitch.conf.
 
 What specifically did you add?

Here's my nswitch.file:

  passwd: files
  group:  files
  shadow: files
  gshadow:files

  hosts:  files dns
  networks:   files dns

  protocols:  files
  services:   files
  rpc:files

Its important to have files before dns for hosts entry.

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Re: HELP: tkdesk not appearing on desktop

1998-02-09 Thread IBMackey

On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Albert Hurd wrote:

 After using tkdesk successfully for two months, the following problem
 just arose. When I call up tkdesk from an xterm, the initialization
 window appears and then, instead of appearing as usual, the tkwindow
 is nowhere to be found, even though ps shows it is active. I have tried
 to reinstall using dselect but still doesn't work.
 I am using Debian 1.3.1.
  Any help would be much appreciated.
 
 Albert Hurd
 
Don't know if this helps, but if you're in fvwm or afterstep, if you
have the words SuppressIcons in your configuration, an application
will sort of disappear if you iconify it. It's still there but unseen.
You window list menu will show it though.

i.b.mackey


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Re: Question re: splitting files

1998-02-09 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott McDermott) wrote:
I just tar as multi-volumes, set volume size appropriately to fit on a
disk.

Do you even need to set the size?  I find this works pretty well:

% tar cvMf /dev/fd0 *

and at the other end:

% tar xvMf /dev/fd0

Apart from when a disk goes bad (obviously), I've never had any trouble
with this.

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Re: Install Help on ThinkPad Wanted

1998-02-09 Thread Stephen Zander

William V. Vera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Hello,
 
 I'd be most grateful to anyone who can help me with my installation
 of Debian 1.3.1 on an IBM ThinkPad 760C.  I was able to complete
 the base installation from diskettes where I believe I included the
 necessary
 drivers to support my external Panasonic KXL-783A 8X-CD-ROM via
 its PCMCIA credit card interface.  I still cannot, however, read any of
 the distribution CDs (in binary ISO image format) because it cannot
 mount /dec/cdrom nor /dev/hd[b|c] when running dselect to load the
 rest.  Am I limited to loading it on the same removable hard drive on
 a friend's ThinkPad which has an internal CD-ROM drive?, or is there
 a way around it on mine.  If I do load it from my friend's, a different
 model ThinkPad, will it still work on mine after I put the hard drive
 back?
 I welcome any/all suggestions or explanations on how I can overcome
 this obstacle.   Thank you.

AFAIK, the standard kernel does *not* include the PCMCI drivers (certainly
not the kernel with the 1.3.1 boot-disks).  If you can build a boot-floopy
with PCMCIA support compiled in on some other machine, that should let
you access the CD-ROM.

HTH

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Re: How do I convert data e-mailed from a mac?

1998-02-09 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello,
 
 I have been sent files of this sort:
 
   jpmaster.dvi
 This is a application/mac-binhex40

Check out the program frommac in the macutils package (which
contains all sorts of utilities for converting to/from binhex and
macbinary formats).


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AT keyboard X

1998-02-09 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

I managed to get my hands on a used AT keyboard at the schools surblus sale 
(for the grand price of $1!)

My fingers are now happy :)  nice  tactile, the control key's where God meant 
it to be, and I can reach the Fkeys without leaving the keyboard (though I 
suppose an alt on the right hand side would be nice.)

But there are a couple of problems.  I expect there's a rtfm answer for that, 
but I've never made much headway with these fm's.

I need to:

a) map the numeric pad to the arrow/page keys when numlock is off, if this is 
possible.  while some applications (Star Office ) recognize them, X doesn't 
seem to.  I'd hate to give up real estate on netscape for the back button :)

b) is it possible to swap the capslock for another alt?

rick, who's wanted this keyboard for a long time.

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Re: HELP: tkdesk not appearing on desktop

1998-02-09 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Albert Hurd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 After using tkdesk successfully for two months, the following problem
 just arose. When I call up tkdesk from an xterm, the initialization
 window appears and then, instead of appearing as usual, the tkwindow
 is nowhere to be found, even though ps shows it is active. I have tried
 to reinstall using dselect but still doesn't work.
 I am using Debian 1.3.1.
  Any help would be much appreciated.
 
 Albert Hurd

It could be that what happened to me is happening to you - I assume
that you're talking about the appbar or the file window when you say
the tkwindow - my problem was that the appbar was appearing off the
right-hand edge of the screen; since it makes itself sticky, I
couldn't just find it on another screen.

What I had to do to fix it was edit the file ~/.tkdesk/_layout - I
found every spot that had an X windows geometry setting (something
like 470x100+340+60) and changed the last part of the geometry
setting to +10+10 - this moved everything to the top-left corner,
but did fix things for me, since I then just moved everything to where 
it ought to be.  If that doesn't work, you may want to just delete your
~/.tkdesk directory, unless you've done lots of customizations you
need to save.


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hdd problems

1998-02-09 Thread Ian Keith Setford

Yo-

I recently removed my Windows drive from a machine that runs Debian 95%
of the time.  The previous arrangement was as follows:
/dev/hdaWindows (master primary controller)
/dev/hdbDebian  (slave primary controller)
/dev/hdcCD-ROM  (master secondary controller)

I removed /dev/hda (Windows) and switched the Debian drive cable and
set the jumper to master.  I *thought* I was thinking ahead when I
re-configured LILO to boot from the actual Linux drive instead of from the
boot sector on the Windows drive.  I ran /sbin/lilo and I also configured
fstab before I physically removed the drive.

After removal Linux will not boot.  The BIOS detection of the HDD also
takes about 2 minutes whereas previously it took about 5-10 seconds.
Debian error says, DMA reset, irq timeout {SEEK ... SEEK ... }' etc..

I am unsure of what is actually wrong.  I also booted with a rescue disk
and a boot disk but both will die with error, Unable to open Initial
Console.

Any help appreciated.  I am running 2.0.32.

Thanks,

Ian 
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Re: StarOffice

1998-02-09 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Group,
 
 I keep seeing posts regarding StarOffice. Where can I get this?

ftp://ftp.stardiv.de/pub/so4/linux/final

http://www.on-line.de/~michael.hoennig/AutoMultiUserSetupForSO40Linux.tar
might be of interest too (see the message of Paul Seelig some days
ago, [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more details).

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Re: Numlock in an xterm

1998-02-09 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert D. Hilliard) writes:

  I have a script in /etc/init.d that runs /usr/bin/setleds -D
 +num to set the numlock on.  How can I get the same result in an
 xterm?

Maybe xset led works here.  See man xset for instruction on how to
use it.

Torsten

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Re: Forwarding mail to news

1998-02-09 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Tim Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 I am subscribed to a number of different mailing lists, but find it easier
 to read using a news reader. Also, I am at different systems that connect
 to the internet using a dial-up connection.

I just put my mailing lists into such a form.

 Is there a way to automaticaly post mail from a mailing list to a
 local news group?

Yes, I use fetchmail for it.  Here is my /etc/fetchmailrc which is
used by calling fetchmail -f /etc/fetchmailrc as root:

defaults 
mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %s
fetchlimit 50

poll pop.combox.de 
protocol pop3 
user Torsten.Hilbrich there 
is torsten here password x

This file calls procmail as delivery agent for every incoming message.
I have (as user torsten) an .procmailrc file in my home directory:

# The default destination is my normal mailbox
DEFAULT=/var/spool/mail/torsten
PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail  # You'd better make sure it exists
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from
LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail

:0w
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| /usr/local/bin/mail2news local.debian.user

:0w
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| /usr/local/bin/mail2news local.bugtraq

:0w
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| /usr/local/bin/mail2news local.dante-ev


For example, mails with the Resent-From: header are from the debian
list and are posted to my local newsserver (INN, but that shouldn't
matter) using the mail2news script.  This is derived from the
mail2news.pl from the Mail2News mini-howto but heavily modified to fit
my needs.  It simply takes the mail coming from stdin, rewrites some
headers, add some neccessary headers and uses (in my case) rpost to
post the message to the news server.

The only remaining thing is the create the local newsgroup as
moderated newsgroup and add a line to the moderators file to get
articles posted to this group sent out as email.

If someone is interessted in this script, send me an email.  My
message is already much to long ;-)

You can find more information in the already mentioned Mail2News mini
howto.  It uses the aliases mechanism for redirecting the mail, but
this will not work with dialup accounts.

Feel free to ask me about my setup,

Torsten

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Re: Installing Debian Linux v1.3.1 from July '97

1998-02-09 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Skwar) writes:

 Hello !
 Last night I wanted to install Debian v1.3.1 from July '97 with a
 Kernel v2.0.29.  After I partitioned my hard disk, the install
 programm checked my hard disk for errors and got a whole lot of
 them.  It repeated printing:
 
 scsi0: Target 6 underflow - Wanted at least 1024, got 512, residual SG
 count 1.
 
 This started out with a higher number in wanted.
 This message has been printed about 6 times, then:
 
 SCSI disk error: host 0 channel 0 id 6 lun 0 return code = 27070002
 scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:04, sector 1090338
 
 And after that, the scsi bus got resetted.
 
 What does all this mean ?

I had a period of getting this error too.  In my case I could hear my
hard disc resetting itself, sometimes several times in successsion.
After month of getting this error I finally found the reason, the
power plug of the hard disc (the one with the 4 pins) was broken and
sometimes failed to provide power for a very short time.

If that is not the problem recheck your termination.

Torsten

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Re: proxy environment variable

1998-02-09 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Florian Attenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 
 What is the sysntax for the proxy variables:
 ftp_proxy=don't know
 http_proxy=don't know

http_proxy=http://localhost:8080/
export http_proxy

The same for ftp_proxy.

Torsten

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Re: xauth for my wife over my xdm X-windows session?

1998-02-09 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
This doesn't address your specific question, but what about this:
I assume that when your wife uses linux, she normally logs in from the 
console (on one of the text mode consoles), and occasionally then
wishes to run a few X applications.  If so, then she can just do:
startx -- :1
This will give her her own X display (on the next available virtual
console, probably number 8), and she need not mess with any xauth
stuff.  (just make certain that Console is in /etc/X11/Xserver)
If you do this, you'll also probably want to make a symbolic link from 
~/.xinit to ~/.xsession  (startx uses .xinit, xdm uses .xsession).
Supposedly, one should be able to get xdm to start up with two
X servers on two different virtual consoles, (and therefore two login
screens) but every time I've tried it it just hung my xdm.


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Re: Problem with python

1998-02-09 Thread Johann Spies
On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Heine DeJager wrote:

 HI Folks,
 
 I have a problem installing python1.4 (hamm), and here follows the output
 from trying to run dpkg --configure python-base. 
 
 Setting up python-base (1.4.0-4) ...
   File /usr/lib/python1.4/compileall.py, line 8
 import os
  ^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax
 dpkg: error processing python-base (--configure):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  python-base
 
 Does anyone know what I should do to correct this?

No, I don't.  But maybe you can look at other possibilities.  I recently
removed debian python1.4 from my system and compiled and installed python
1.5 in /usr/local.

Another possibility is to try out the python 1.5 rpm-packages that are
already available using alien.  I did not try that out myself, but it
might just work.

I include a message from the python user's mailinglist with information
about the RPM-packages:

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb  9 16:22:44 1998
Date: 9 Feb 1998 12:20:08 GMT
From: Oliver Andrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ANNOUNCE: Addons to the Linux Python 1.5 RPMS (RedHat 5.0) [Update 2]
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python

Hi,

as I promised last week I have packaged PIL, NumPy and gdmodule as addon
packages to my linux packages of Python 1.5. There are three more RPMS
available, that can be found on

ftp://ftp.rhein-zeitung.de/pub/comp/redhat
...


Regards.


Johann

Johann Spies
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StarOffice4.0 and Debian

1998-02-09 Thread tony mollica
Has anyone installed StarOffice 4.0 on a Debian system yet and were
there any problems to watch out for?

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ddd doesn't do a thing

1998-02-09 Thread Maarten Boekhold
Hi,

Some time ago I upgraded to ddd-2.1.1 with lesstifg-0.82-4, and ever 
since, ddd doesn't do a dd thing anymore. It starts up, and that's 
it. I can't even open a menu to open a file, or typw in the console 
window. Anybody knows how to fix this? I really start to miss my debugger

Maarten

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RE: HELP: tkdesk not appearing on desktop

1998-02-09 Thread Mike Flynn
do me a favor and take me off this list serve some lamer put me on a million of 
them and i can't get off.  I get 2000 emails a day 
thank you

-Original Message-
From:   Albert Hurd [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Monday, February 09, 1998 2:45 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:HELP: tkdesk not appearing on desktop

After using tkdesk successfully for two months, the following problem
just arose. When I call up tkdesk from an xterm, the initialization
window appears and then, instead of appearing as usual, the tkwindow
is nowhere to be found, even though ps shows it is active. I have tried
to reinstall using dselect but still doesn't work.
I am using Debian 1.3.1.
 Any help would be much appreciated.

Albert Hurd


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Re: hdd problems

1998-02-09 Thread Oleg Krivosheev

 I recently removed my Windows drive from a machine that runs Debian 95%
 of the time.  The previous arrangement was as follows:
 /dev/hda  Windows (master primary controller)
 /dev/hdb  Debian  (slave primary controller)
 /dev/hdc  CD-ROM  (master secondary controller)
 
 I removed /dev/hda (Windows) and switched the Debian drive cable and
 set the jumper to master.  I *thought* I was thinking ahead when I
 re-configured LILO to boot from the actual Linux drive instead of from the
 boot sector on the Windows drive.  I ran /sbin/lilo and I also configured
 fstab before I physically removed the drive.
 
 After removal Linux will not boot.  The BIOS detection of the HDD also
 takes about 2 minutes whereas previously it took about 5-10 seconds.
 Debian error says, DMA reset, irq timeout {SEEK ... SEEK ... }' etc..
 
 I am unsure of what is actually wrong.  I also booted with a rescue disk
 and a boot disk but both will die with error, Unable to open Initial
 Console.

try to set disk into standalone mode

regards

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Re: hdd problems

1998-02-09 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Well it sounds like LILO is trying to boot from the wrong partition. Or,
perhaps the kernel is loading but the root device is wrong. I'm guessing
this is the case since I wouldn't expect very elaborate messages such as you
site below from LILO. When you get to where LILO prints hit scroll-lock to get
the prompt and type:

Linux root=/dev/hda1

where 'Linux' is the name of your linux image (if you don't know what the name
of the image is you can hit TAB at the prompt to get a list of images) and
/dev/hda1 is the device path of your root partition. Once you get booted up
look at your /etc/lilo.conf file. There should be a 'root=...' line in it
which is probably incorrect.

As to the BIOS detection, it probably still wants to find two drives. Go into
the BIOS setup and tell it there's no secondary drive and it'll be happy.

Ian Keith Setford wrote:

 Yo-

 I recently removed my Windows drive from a machine that runs Debian 95%
 of the time.  The previous arrangement was as follows:
 /dev/hdaWindows (master primary controller)
 /dev/hdbDebian  (slave primary controller)
 /dev/hdcCD-ROM  (master secondary controller)

 I removed /dev/hda (Windows) and switched the Debian drive cable and
 set the jumper to master.  I *thought* I was thinking ahead when I
 re-configured LILO to boot from the actual Linux drive instead of from the
 boot sector on the Windows drive.  I ran /sbin/lilo and I also configured
 fstab before I physically removed the drive.

 After removal Linux will not boot.  The BIOS detection of the HDD also
 takes about 2 minutes whereas previously it took about 5-10 seconds.
 Debian error says, DMA reset, irq timeout {SEEK ... SEEK ... }' etc..

 I am unsure of what is actually wrong.  I also booted with a rescue disk
 and a boot disk but both will die with error, Unable to open Initial
 Console.

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Re: X restarts in different console

1998-02-09 Thread Luke Chao
 I noticed strictly the sam effect in my bo box... :-(

Same here with hamm; a solution I've found is to run startx -- vt12 (or
whatever VT you want it on).  Even better, set up an alias:

alias startx=startx -- vt12

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Re: Automating PPP with cron?

1998-02-09 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
Sounds like a dooable crack.

I see a cron.daily, weekly  monthly directory in /etc, with scripts in it,
which I presume get executed daily weekly and month respectively.
I'de like it to run every 6 hours. I tried read the cron  cron tab manpages,
but I'm still clueless as to how to do this I can't find any howto's on
this either. :(.

Any pointers to doc files, (or actual help:), on this subject?

Thanks,
Timothy

 And about the  hours disconnect/connect thing: You could kill pppd with a
 cronjob, but this is rather a bad idea (in the case you are doing a
 download at this moment :-). Maybe using diald is better. Never used it
 though.

 Ciao,
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Problems with new install on old laptop

1998-02-09 Thread Tim Bell
I have an old 486 DX2-66 laptop which currently has a 1.1.59-based
Linux installation, and I'm trying to install Debian on it.  Booting
with the rescue disk is fine until just after it loads the md driver, at
which point it hangs.  I haven't seen this with any of the other Debian
installs, but then again, this is the first time I've installed on a
laptop.

Are there any other Debian boot floppies I might try, perhaps for hamm?
(I've tried installing the boot-floppies package in case I need to make
my own, but the hamm package wants libc5-pic, which isn't available.)

Any other tips? I've had a quick look at the Linux on Laptops page
(http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/), but I'm not
convinced this is necessarily a laptop-specific problem.

TIA,

Tim.
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Re: StarOffice multiuser

1998-02-09 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
torsten wrote,

 http://www.on-line.de/~michael.hoennig/AutoMultiUserSetupForSO40Linux.tar
 might be of interest too (see the message of Paul Seelig some days
 ago, [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more details).

it doesn't seem to be necessary anymore.  I used custom install as root to put 
it in /usr/local/share, than ran /usr/local/share/Office40/bin/setup as a 
user, ignored the incorrect statement that it was going to use 110MB again 
(really 12k or so, i think), then ran it with no problem.  As near as I can 
tell this is what the README meant, but it is less than clear [uses /net 
rather than -net as an option???]

rick

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Any command to spin down a *scsi* drive?

1998-02-09 Thread Rob Browning

I know you can use hdparm to set the spin-down period on an IDE drive,
but is there a similar command for SCSI drives?

Thanks

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Installation XFree86 klappt nicht...

1998-02-09 Thread Gartzke
Hallo!


Leider stellt sich meine erstes Herantasten an die LINUX-Welt ein wenig 
schwieriger dar als gedacht.
Speziell XFree86 will nicht laufen. Da auf der mir zu Verfuegung stehenden 
Distribution (Debian 1.3.1) kein X-Server für meine Grafikkarte (Viper V 330 
mit 
Riva 128 Chip)ist habe ich von der S.u.s.e Homepage den Passenden Server 
xnvidia.tgz sowie die xsuseconfig.tgz geladen und wie beschrieben mittels tar 
entkomprimiert, was auch problemlos funktionierte.Leider war es anschließend 
nicht moeglich, die Datei xf86xonfig zu starten. 
Eine testweise Installation des auf der Debian-CD befindlichen SVGA- bzw- VGA 
16-Server mit nachfolgender Entkomprimierung Eurer Dateien fuehrte immerhin 
dazu, dass die Datei xf86xonfig gestartet werden konnte und auch die Viper V 
330 
in der Liste(Nr. 145) auftauchte.
Leider fuehrte der anschließende Start von startx nur zu Fehlermeldungen (siehe 
Anhang, Ausgabedatei x.out). 
Wenn Sie fuer dieses kleine Problem ein Loesung haetten...   Es waere klasse.


Vielen Dank Dirk



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Re: Problems with new install on old laptop

1998-02-09 Thread Stephen Zander
Tim Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have an old 486 DX2-66 laptop which currently has a 1.1.59-based
 Linux installation, and I'm trying to install Debian on it.  Booting
 with the rescue disk is fine until just after it loads the md driver, at
 which point it hangs.  I haven't seen this with any of the other Debian
 installs, but then again, this is the first time I've installed on a
 laptop.

Sounds like you have the A20 gate problem.  Try using the tectra boot-disks,
they're on the ftp mirror somewhere.

-- 
Stephen
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Dial Script

1998-02-09 Thread Tim Sailer
I have a web page that people can use to page me on my numeric pager.
It uses a very stupid program (npage) to dial the phone. I was wondering
if someone has a better way, maybe perl, chat, a well written C program,
etc. to do this.

Thanks,
Tim

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Re: StarOffice multiuser

1998-02-09 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 it doesn't seem to be necessary anymore.  I used custom install as root to 
 put 
 it in /usr/local/share, than ran /usr/local/share/Office40/bin/setup as a 
 user, ignored the incorrect statement that it was going to use 110MB again 
 (really 12k or so, i think), then ran it with no problem.  As near as I can 
 tell this is what the README meant, but it is less than clear [uses /net 
 rather than -net as an option???]

This MultiUserUnstall is helpful because once you (as root) installed 
everything
somewhere, than any user can run soffice (which can be a symbolic link from
/usr/local/bin to the actual location of this script) and install all the 
necessary
files into the user directory non-interactively (if s/he starts soffice for 
the
first time) and then starts the StarOffice itself. Pretty slick I would say.

Alex Y.


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Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux

1998-02-09 Thread wnpp

Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$Id: packages.sgml,v 1.70 1998/02/09 23:38:47 johnie Exp $

1.  General Questions

1.1.  Before reading this document


You should have read the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/.



1.2.  Purpose of this document

This document is intended to identify areas that need your
contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite
often, so it supplements the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ.


1.3.  Getting newer versions of this document


Newer versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP:


  o  http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html

  o  ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-
   packages.txt

  o  ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-
   packages.html


1.4.  Feedback

Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to the WNPP
maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Please mention to which version of this
document your comments refer.


Try to change the subject of your mail to reflect the packages you're
talking about, it makes it easier for to sort out all Re: Work-
Needing and Prospective Packages emails. A suggested subject line
reads WNPP: removing foopackage or WNPP: working on barpackage.
Thanks.



2.  Recent Changes

2.1.  Since version 1.69 1998/02/02


  o  Ed Petron  is working on the Purdue Compiler Construction Tool
   Set (PCCTS).

  o  Leland Olds mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is working on YADE (Yet
   Another Diagram Editor).

  o  Jim Pick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is working on the mico ORB
   http://diamant-atm.vsb.cs.uni-frankfurt.de/~mico/.


  o  Added sfio
   http://www.oasis.leo.org/perl/src/independent/sfio.dsc.html (a C
   library stdio replacement) and FPK pascal http://sun01.brain.uni-
   freiburg.de/%7Eklaus/fpk-pas/, GNU Nana
   http://wattle.cs.ntu.edu.au/homepages/pjm/nana-home/, and gddb to
   packages someone should make.




3.  Orphaned packages

(An orphaned package is a package that has no current maintainer.)


Please inform [EMAIL PROTECTED] via e-mail:

  o  when you find that you need to orphan a package

  o  when you believe that the following list is incomplete

  o  when you would like to maintain one of these packages.


Patrick Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  cfs (non-us)

  o  saytime

  o  sigrot

  o  sniffit


Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  cfengine

  o  zyxel


Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  Kmodplayer


Steve Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] :


  o  xtar-dmotif

  o  xtar-smotif




Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] :


  o  kde

  o  giflib



Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] :


  o  blt


Helmut Geyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] :


  o  ghostview

  o  xxgdb


Orn E. Hansen :

  o  xega

  o  xmailtool


Yves Arrouye [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  compress-package

  o  ppd-adobe-common, ppd-adobe-extra, ppd-adobe-misc, ppd-gs

  o  psptools



Dominik Kubla [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  csh


Raul D. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  j1 (in old source format)

  o  sam


Jim Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  mh-papers

  o  term



Doug Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  apsfilter


Erick Branderhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  mathpad

  o  wenglish


Christian Linhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] :


  o  xarchie

  o  bibindex




Stuart Lamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  fsp



Guy R. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  dld (do we still need this ?)


Patrick J Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  mailpgp





Robert Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  motifnls


David Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  tcl74

  o  tcl75

  o  tk40

  o  tk41


Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  tclx74

  o  tclx75

  o  tix40


Michael Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  javalex

  o  java-cup

  o  rsynth


Karl Sackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  courtney

  o  groupkit

  o  imgstar

  o  lee

  o  objpak

  o  pgapack

  o  premail

  o  saoimage

  o  snns

  o  tcs

  o  wily

  o  xbattle

  o  xephem-smotif



Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  hyperlatex

  o  latex2rtf


Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  gettyps


Others:

  o  rc

  o  xcompat (should we drop it ?)

  o  libc4 (a.out compatibility)















4.  Packages needing a new maintainer

Please inform [EMAIL PROTECTED] via e-mail:

  o  when you find that you'd like to discontinue maintaining a package

Please inform [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the mainatiner of the package:

  o  when you would like to maintain one of the packages.


J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  lesstif.

   Maintaining the package itself is not difficult - the packaging is
   reasonably straight-forward. The difficulty with this package lies
   in the fact that LessTif still suffers from many bugs (e.g. a
   memory leak showing up with xmcd, locking up X with nedit and DDD)
   and some missing features. The ideal maintainer would be somebody
   who is familiar with debugging X stuff, and who is prepared to work
   closely with the upstream developers.