RE: Re: apt y auto-apt (era: Rumbo de la distribucion Debian)

2000-07-13 Thread larocha


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 Hay alguna forma de decirle al gestor de paquetes que un dado
paquete
 est=E1 en el sistema al s=F3lo efecto de satisfacer una dependencia
y que
 al desinstalar el paquete que lo necesitaba, tambi=E9n lo elimine
del
 sistema ?

Me temo que no, o por lo menos yo no la conozco. De todas formas,=20
el sistema de paquetes de debian es lo suficientemente robusto
como para que
estas cosas no sucedan, ya que el apartado 'Depends' dentro de
la definici=
=F3n
del paquete est=E1 ah=ED precisamente para que eso no ocurra.=20

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¿No te hace esto apt-get remove?
No puedo asegurarlo, pero creo que funciona así, o sea que
si desinstalas un paquete y algún otro estaba únicamente
porque el primero lo necesitaba también lo desinstala.

Saludos,
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Re: Rumbo de la distribucion Debian

2000-07-13 Thread Antonio Castro
On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Jordi Mallach wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 07:57:09PM +0200, Antonio Castro wrote:
  Tengo entendido de que =FAltimamente se est=E1 discutiendo mucho
  a nivel interno sobre la propia organizaci=F3n de Debian.
  No digo que est=E1s no ocurran normalmente desde hace mucho
  tiempo pero da la impresi=F3n de que algo est=E1 cambiando o
  de que algo quiere cambiar.
 
 Alguna referencia? Hay muchas discusiones cada semana.

Pues esta referencia de Debian-news no la tenía cuando envié esta
pregunta por primera vez. Pero yo leo algunas cosas en ingles y no
siempre tengo claro lo que quieren decir. 

: Paul J Thompson thinks that Debian is reaching critical mass of
: public recognition. He cites the increasing number of
: [11]distributions based on Debian, the many people and projects that
: are beginning to release debian packages and support Debian, etc. With
: growth comes problems, and Paul identifies two key problems that are
: nothing new: the unmanageable number of packages, and release schedule
: difficulties. He goes on make a radical suggestion to address the
: problems -- split up Debian into several sections like core, rapid
: development, and so on, that have different release schedules. It's an
: [12]interesting message, well worth reading even if you [13]disagree
: with his ideas.

  La pregunta es.  Realmente existe inquietud en Debian por estos temas ?
  Se est=E1 proponiendo alg=FAn cambio en la organizaci=F3n de Debian ?
 
 Los `package pools' de Anthony Towns son la gran esperanza de los que ven en
 los largos releases de potato un problema. Si no le=EDste ese thread, deber=
 =EDas
 encontrarlo en los archivos de debian-devel de hace unos meses (busca eso,
 package-pools).

Me gustaría leer eso pero acabo de decir que no siempre entiendo lo que
se dice en Ingles y por eso pregunto las cosas en esta lista. Si puedes
mencionar aunque sea la idea general te lo agradeceré aunque yo pienso
que todas las soluciones técnicas que han ido surgiendo para combatir
los problemas derivados del aumento en número de paquetes se quedan cortas
o surgen problemas por otro lado. El aumento en el tiempo para estabilizar
una versión sería en mi opinión quizas el problema más importante en este 
momento.

 
 Lo que preguntas sobre los cambios en la organizaci=F3n, no se a que te
 refieres. Ha habido mucho eco con el tema de la propuesta de erradicar
 non-free (asombrosamente no ha sido as=ED en esta lista), y hay gente que
 discute que se pueda modificar la Constituci=F3n y el Social Contract con u=
 na
 simple votaci=F3n (dicen que desvirt=FAa los pilares de Debian, pero esa =
 es
 otra historia). A parte de cambios como el de los package pools y la
 distribuci=F3n `testing', no veo que cambios no-t=E9cnicos se est=E1n discu=
 tiendo.
 Aunque tambi=E9n tengo una facilidad enorme para olvidar hilos viejos.

Bueno pues yo creo que Debian con la estructura actual no escala bien.
Es una estructura en forma de rastrillo. Hay demasiada gente trabajando
al mismo nivel. Es decir trabajando en el mantenimiento de paquetes.
Las tareas de tipo global se ven sobrecargadas de trabajo. Por esa razón
falta gente y sobra gente. Es un problema de organización.

Creo que el mensaje anterior de Debian.news de dividir en secciones la 
distribución serviría precisamente para organizar secciones con cierto 
grado de independencia. Me sorprende que no se hiciera antes.

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Re: xfree86 3.3.6 ya funciona

2000-07-13 Thread Darlock
On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez wrote:

  Era lo que vos decias nomas instale la version para glibc 2.0 y andubo 
fenomeno, lo unico que la instale
  de una version .tgz que tenia en una revista hay alguna forma de 
transformar un tgz por un .deb para
  mantener la estructura de los paquetes.

  Ahora tengo la xfree 4.0 en glibc 2.0 (en formato .tgz) me conviene 
instalarla o 
  tiene algun problema de dependencias (acuerdate que tengo slink)
  Bueno gracias y hasta la proxima.

Bueno, por lo que parece la version 4.0 tienen bastantes bugs,
precisamente hace una semana salió otra version que corregia un montón,
pero en Debian han preferido no meterla en la nueva version (potato) o sea
que mejor pontela solo si tienes problemas con el reconocimiento de tu
tarjeta de video o cosas así... pero aún así yo la he probado y funciona
bien con Slink.
 
El tema de la creacion de paquetes debian creo que no es tarea facil, por
eso te comenté que te instalaras mejor los paquetes debian. 

No tienes ningun CD de debian a mano? La verdad es que te ahorraras muchos
dolores de cabeza si te instalas las X con paquetes *.deb

Incluso hay gente de la propia debian que proporciona paquetes de
software actuales compilados con las glibc2.0 (Slink) pa' que la gente no
quede muy desfasada entre versiones, si quieres te puedo buscar alguna
URL.

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Xfree 4.0.1 + xawtv = ioctl problemo

2000-07-13 Thread Miguel Rodriguez Penabad
Hola listeros
Tenia instaladas las X 3.3.6 y para probar me he bajado las
4.0.1 y las he instalado, y ahora tengo un problema. Al arrancar
el xawtv p'a ver la tele, me sale la ventana del xawtv en negro
(sintoniza bien porque se oyen perfectamente los distintos canales).
El mensaje de error que me da es:
ioctl VIDIOCCAPTURE: Argumento inválido
¿Alguien sabe como arreglar esto? Si no tendre que volver con las
X 3.3.6

(Con las X 3.3.6 iba todo perfectamente. Para mas informacion,
la tarjeta es una ATI Rage Pro,  el kernel kernel 2.4.0-test1,
el bttv 7.2.28 y xawtv no importa si el 2.46 o 3.17, los dos
dan el mismo error)

Saludos y gracias
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Re: /dev/lp0

2000-07-13 Thread Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia

Hola, de nuevo:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Luis Cabrera Sauco wrote:

 
   Revisa tu configuración, y si pones el dispositivo lp como módulo,
 arranca el programa 'modconf' y aseguraté de cargarlo...

Ya los he puesto como modulo. Pienso que mi problema es que que no tengo
creado el fichero /dev/lp0 asociado con el dispositivo.Con modconf puedo
instalar el modulo del soporte de puerto paralelo (parport.o) pero cuando
lo intento con el modulo del soporte paralelo de impresora no lo consigo
me dine que debo de introducir unos parametros en la linea de comandos.

lp  io=0x378 irq=0
(probes ports): 0x278, 0x378, 0x3bc

Le he pasado como argumentos: irq=7 io=0x378 y nada no lo consigo. Como
puedo encontrar los parametros que necesito? Esta bien puesta la forma de
pasar los parametros?


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Re: /dev/lp0

2000-07-13 Thread Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia
Hola:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Luis Cabrera Sauco wrote:


  Cuando hago dmesg | less me dice: lp: no encuentra el dispositivo. Lo
  mismo si hago cat /dev/lp0.Me imagino que si no existe el dispositivo amen
  de no poder imprimir tendre que crearlo. cd /dev y despues ./MAKEDEV lp0 y
  va
  y me dice que no sabe como crear el dispositivo.Sabeis como debo de
  crearlo? Y depues como se configura? En el kernel le he dado soporte al
  puerto paralelo. En definitiva lo que pretendo es poder imprimir.El
 
   ¿Has recompilado el kernel...? Por lo que comentas, sobreentiendo que
 asi es...

Si, lo he recompilado. En el setup General: Soporte puerto paralelo = y.


   Dentro del apartado de dispositivos de caracteres, asegurate de que esté
 activada la siguiente opción:
 
   #
   # Character devices
   #
   CONFIG_VT=y
   CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y
   CONFIG_SERIAL=m
   # CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set
   # CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set
   CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y
   CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256
 ==   CONFIG_PRINTER=m
   CONFIG_PRINTER_READBACK=y
   CONFIG_MOUSE=y

Aqui no pone CONFIG_PRINTER pone PRINT_SUPORT = y

 
   Como puedes ver, yo la tengo como módulo, asi que la cargo solo cuando
 hace falta.
 
   Revisa tu configuración, y si pones el dispositivo lp como módulo,
 arranca el programa 'modconf' y aseguraté de cargarlo...

Voy a intentar ponerlo como modulo haber si funciona. Gracias por tu
ayuda.

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Re: /dev/lp0

2000-07-13 Thread Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia
Hola:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:

 
   Ummm... MAKEDEV lp? Me extraña que no lo tengas ya creado con la
 distribución básica...
 
Bueno existe el siguiente fichero -lp0 con un signo menos y es de color
rosa!
 

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Re: conflicto de hardware?

2000-07-13 Thread Rodolfo García
On mié, 12 jul 2000, Jordi Mallach escribió:

 On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 05:32:50PM +0200, Hue-Bond wrote:
   En mi /proc/interrupts vemos esta línea:
  
9:   69759179  XT-PIC  eth0, cmpci
  
   Sin embargo,  me funcionan perfectamente  tanto la red  como el
   sonido. ¿Cómo es posible?
 
 Irq compartida. O algo así leí en mi manual.

Los dispositivos pci pueden compartir irq.

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Re: kdvi: error in loading shared libraries

2000-07-13 Thread Juan Luis Martínez
Julián Armando Mena Zapata wrote:
 
 Hola a todos.
 Algunos paquetes cuando los intento cargar en x-windows sale el siguiente
 mensaje:
 
   kolmogorov:~# kdvi
   kdvi: error in loading shared libraries
   /usr/X11R6/lib/libkfile.so.2: undefined symbol: __pure_virtual
 
   kolmogorov:~# kmedia
   kmedia: error in loading shared libraries
   /usr/X11R6/lib/libkfile.so.2: undefined symbol: __pure_virtual
 
   kolmogorov:~# kedit
   kedit: error in loading shared libraries
   /usr/X11R6/lib/libkfile.so.2: undefined symbol: __pure_virtual
 
   kolmogorov:~# kplayaudio
   kplayaudio: error in loading shared libraries
   /usr/X11R6/lib/libkfile.so.2: undefined symbol: __pure_virtual
 
   kolmogorov:~# kpager
   kpager: error in loading shared libraries
   /usr/X11R6/lib/libkfile.so.2: undefined symbol: __pure_virtual
 
   kolmogorov:~# kpaint
   kpaint: error in loading shared libraries
   /usr/X11R6/lib/libkfile.so.2: undefined symbol: __pure_virtual
 
 Utilizo Citius Lite Debian GNU_Linux slink
 
 ¿Como puedo resolver este problema?

Actualizate el KDE en ftp://kde.tdyc.com


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Re: apt-get y apt-move

2000-07-13 Thread David Muriel
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 Saludos. Resulta que, después de años de actualizarme a pelo con
 ftp y dpkg (y mc para leer las dependencias, y más ftp para 
 traérmelas), me decido a pasarme a apt (cosas de la vida).
 Bien, todo estupendo. Sólo una pequeña duda: apt-move crea ficheros
 Packages.gz y en cambio apt-get me parece que busca los ficheros
 Packages sin comprimir (al menos eso me ha parecido cuando he
 intentado añadir a sources.list mi pequeño mirror local). ¿Es un
 bug? ¿hay algo que no he visto? En los man no dice nada.

El apt-get también coge los Packages.gz ¿Tienes algún problema para
que te los lea? Si sólo utilizase los Packages sin comprimir, al
actualizar tendría que bajar un fichero de más de 3 megas, mientras
que al estar comprimido es menos de 1 mega.  

Hasta luego.

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Re: apt y auto-apt (era: Rumbo de la distribucion Debian)

2000-07-13 Thread JFA
On Wed, Jul 12, 2000 at 08:02:07PM -0300, Enzo Dari wrote:
 De vez en cuando instalo algún paquete para probarlo, decidir que
 no me gusta e inmediatamente desinstalarlo. Todo bien con los ficheros
 propios del paquete, una vez desinstalado (purge) no quedan rastros
 del mismo. Pero qué sucede con las bibliotecas de las cuales dependía
 el paquete original y que tuve que instalar para probarlo ?
 Hay alguna forma de decirle al gestor de paquetes que un dado paquete
 está en el sistema al sólo efecto de satisfacer una dependencia y que
 al desinstalar el paquete que lo necesitaba, también lo elimine del
 sistema ?
 
No la hay, yo lo que hago es copiar a un fichero las librerias que me
instalan y luego desinstalar todo junto. Esto lo empecé a hacer cuando me di
cuenta como tu de que podía tener la hostia de librerias inútiles, asique
empecé a intentar desinstalarlas todas, las que me desinstalaba,
efectivamente es que eran inútiles, las otras me decia que no porque tal
programa dependia de ellas. A partir de ahí empecé a utilizar el método
anterior.
Es bastante aburrido y se ahorra poco espacio ( normalmente las librerias
son pequeñas )
 La segunda es un puntero interesante: una charla de Wichert Akkerman
 sobre un nuevo gestor de paquetes que unifique rpm y deb:
 http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/talks/PackageManagement2000/html/
 
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Mis problemas con Apache

2000-07-13 Thread Jose Angel Fdez . Luengo

Hell-o a todos!

He instalado en mi máquina el servidor web Apache para hacer practicas con
PHP/MySQL y cual es mi sorpresa cuando me deja acceder bien a las paginas
generales (a las que accedería con http://mimaquina) pero no a las que
debería poder poner cada usuario de forma personal (a las que deberia
poder accederse de modo (http://mimaquina/~usuario). ¿Alguna idea de por
donde atacar el tema?

Nos leemos...
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dselect

2000-07-13 Thread Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia
Hola:
No tengo mucha experiencia con el dselect. Resulta que la informacion de
mis cuatro cds de paquetes (4500) no estan todos en el apartado (select)

Anduve trasteando con el apt para actualizar unos paquetes del servidor de
devian, pero ahora no se que es lo que he echo que no los encuentro como
estaban  antes cuando instale la debian por primera vez. He puesto
instalar desde el cdrom y he metido el primero, despues actualizar,
selecionar pero como he dicho no estan todos. Que debo de hacer para que
me aparezcan todos los paquetes como antes? Gracias.


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Servidor imap para Maildir

2000-07-13 Thread chafar
Hola a todos.

Tengo instalado qmail, utilizando buzones maildir y me gustaría instalar
un servidor imap que supiera manejarlos. He estado viendo por ahí y estoy
contemplando usar el courier-imap.

Se aceptan sugerencias, porque soy nuevecillo en esto.

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Re: apt-get y apt-move

2000-07-13 Thread jrfern
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 12:39:38AM +0200, David Muriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 El apt-get también coge los Packages.gz ¿Tienes algún problema para
 que te los lea?

A ver si me explico mejor. 
1. Según los logs 'apt-get update' busca en cada 
directorio los ficheros Packages y Release (puede que descargue
Packages.gz y no lo diga, no lo sé).
2. 'apt-move packages' crea Packages.gz y Sources.gz (eso está en
el man)
3. 'apt-move update' recrea Packages.gz cuando termina.

¿Por qué no funciona esta línea de sources.list?
deb file:localhost/debian woody main contrib non-free
Error:
  W: Couldn't stat source package list 'file:localhost woody/main Packages'
  (/var/state/apt/lists/localhost_debian_dists_woody_main_binary-i386_Packages)
  - stat (2 No such file or directory)

No vale 
deb file//:localhost/debian woody main contrib non-free
por el siguiente error:
Err file://localhost woody/main Packages
  Invalid URI, local URIS must not start with //
  
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Re: Rumbo de la distribucion Debian

2000-07-13 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 09:05:29AM +0200, Antonio Castro wrote:
 : Paul J Thompson thinks that Debian is reaching critical mass of
 : public recognition. He cites the increasing number of
 : [11]distributions based on Debian, the many people and projects that
 : are beginning to release debian packages and support Debian, etc. With
 : growth comes problems, and Paul identifies two key problems that are
 : nothing new: the unmanageable number of packages, and release schedule
 : difficulties. He goes on make a radical suggestion to address the
 : problems -- split up Debian into several sections like core, rapid
 : development, and so on, that have different release schedules. It's an
 : [12]interesting message, well worth reading even if you [13]disagree
 : with his ideas.

Para mí, este modelo de grupos de paquetes es inmanejable. El modelo de
Anthony Towns es automático y por lo tanto, es más fácil que funcione.

 Me gustaría leer eso pero acabo de decir que no siempre entiendo lo que
 se dice en Ingles y por eso pregunto las cosas en esta lista. Si puedes
 mencionar aunque sea la idea general te lo agradeceré aunque yo pienso
 que todas las soluciones técnicas que han ido surgiendo para combatir
 los problemas derivados del aumento en número de paquetes se quedan cortas
 o surgen problemas por otro lado. El aumento en el tiempo para estabilizar
 una versión sería en mi opinión quizas el problema más importante en este 
 momento.

Por un lado está la distribución `testing', que sustituye a `frozen'. El
modelo sería ago así:

[ Stable ]  -- Updates mínimos, seguridad, bugs vergonzosos...

   /-- [ Testing ] -- Distribución actualizada moderadamente, com paquetes
   |que han probado su calidad.
   |
   \--  [ Unstable ] -- Todos los paquetes nuevos van a esta distribución.

Joder, que infografía más total.

La idea es tener una distribución casi preparada para el release
permanentemente, y que no pase lo que ha ocurrido con Potato, que al
congelar había más de 300 bugs críticos. Como?

Los paquetes ahora se suben sólo a unstable. Ahí, la gente que usa esa
distribución los testea. Si nadie les pone un rcbug durante 14 días, pueden
pasar a ser aptos para `testing'. Un script mira los paquetes de unstable,
y ve que foo tiene 14 días de vida y ningún rcbug. Mira las dependencias,
ve que no hay ningún problema, y automáticamente coge el paquete y lo
instala en testing.

Esto es la idea básica, y se supone que testing sólo debería tener unos 10
bugs críticos permanentemente. Me parecen pocos, pero vamos, no serán 300 :)

Tiene problemas, si algún paquete saca versiones or revisiones cada menos de
14 días, nunca llegará a testing, o el posible caso de que todo el mundo que
usa unstable ahora se pase a testing ya que es mucho más seguro (aunque
siempre quedará la gente que no puede esperar 2 semanas), y otros temas
similares.

 Bueno pues yo creo que Debian con la estructura actual no escala bien.
 Es una estructura en forma de rastrillo. Hay demasiada gente trabajando
 al mismo nivel. Es decir trabajando en el mantenimiento de paquetes.
 Las tareas de tipo global se ven sobrecargadas de trabajo. Por esa razón
 falta gente y sobra gente. Es un problema de organización.

Y que quieres? Una estructura piramidal? Yo no, desde luego.

 Creo que el mensaje anterior de Debian.news de dividir en secciones la 
 distribución serviría precisamente para organizar secciones con cierto 
 grado de independencia. Me sorprende que no se hiciera antes.

Por lo EMHO, inmanejable que sería coordinar todos los grupos.

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Linux renice, prioridades y grabacion multipista.

2000-07-13 Thread Ivan Andres Hernandez Puga
Estimada lista de debian:

Les presento mi caso para ver si teiene idea de como solucionar este
problema:
Tengo un Debian Woody en una pc PII 350 64mb ram y un disco IDE de 10gb
bastante veloz. el hecho es que desea hacer grabaciones multipista utilizando
ecasound (un soft GPL modo consola) y mi placa Pinnacle Multisound. Todo
funciona bien salvo el hecho de que en su distribucion democratica de los
tiempos de proceso el kernel crea asincronias entre lo grabado y lo en
ejecucion... lo cual es simplemente nefasto.
Intenté usar renice sin exito para dar mayores prioridades a la aplicacion de
grabacion de sonido... pero no logre hacer nada bueno.
En windows (cuando tenia windows en una P120 con 32mb ram) usaba un programa
que lograba hacer esto sin inconvenientes, lo cual es sin duda debido a que
windows no defragmenta el disco mientras se graba en el permitiendo que las
aplicaciones usen a su antojo el 100% de la CPU como en el DOS.
Bien... sugerencias? escucho atento y muchas gracias

Ivan.



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Re: Xfree 4.0.1 + xawtv = ioctl problemo

2000-07-13 Thread Jonathan Arrien
a mi me paso lo mismo,de hecho,cuando instale por primera vez la 4.0 podia
verlo,luego salia de las X,las volvia arrancar y ya no podia ver la tele.
al final hice lo que tu has hecho.



[no subject]

2000-07-13 Thread Javier Ortega



HOLA: ME GUSTARIA SABER COSAS DE 
TI


Distribución de programas

2000-07-13 Thread Camilo Alejandro Arboleda
Hola:

¿Saben donde encontrar un tutorial sobre autoconf, m4 y demás programas
necesarios para distribuir un programa en forma de código de fuente? Si
además habla de los deb_helpers mejor.

Es que he estado tratando de leer la información de info, pero es muy
extensa y no aprendido mucho.


Gracias,

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Re: Distribución de programas

2000-07-13 Thread Antonio Beamud Montero
Camilo Alejandro Arboleda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hola:

 ¿Saben donde encontrar un tutorial sobre autoconf, m4 y demás programas
 necesarios para distribuir un programa en forma de código de fuente? Si
 además habla de los deb_helpers mejor.

 Es que he estado tratando de leer la información de info, pero es muy
 extensa y no aprendido mucho.

www.gnu.org

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swap partition too small

2000-07-13 Thread Tony Laszlo
In trying to conserve the little hard disk space 
(110M) that I have, I have unfortunately made the 
swap partition too small when installing Debian. I 
know I should probably pay penance and do the install 
all over again, but am wondering if there is a way to 
carve out a portion of the hard disk for swap at this 
stage of the game. Something like a fips that can shrink 
a Linux partition. No? Just thought I'd ask before 
reinstalling... 

Tony Laszlo
Tokyo










Re: swap partition too small

2000-07-13 Thread Jeff Green
Find someone who owns a copy of pq-magic. The DOS version will run from
a very simple dos boot floopy (and the CD helps you make the right
disks) and will resize linux partions very simply.
Jeff

Tony Laszlo wrote:
 
 In trying to conserve the little hard disk space
 (110M) that I have, I have unfortunately made the
 swap partition too small when installing Debian. I
 know I should probably pay penance and do the install
 all over again, but am wondering if there is a way to
 carve out a portion of the hard disk for swap at this
 stage of the game. Something like a fips that can shrink
 a Linux partition. No? Just thought I'd ask before
 reinstalling...
 
 Tony Laszlo
 Tokyo
 
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Re: swap partition too small

2000-07-13 Thread Matthew Dalton
Tony Laszlo wrote:
 
 In trying to conserve the little hard disk space
 (110M) that I have, I have unfortunately made the
 swap partition too small when installing Debian. I
 know I should probably pay penance and do the install
 all over again, but am wondering if there is a way to
 carve out a portion of the hard disk for swap at this
 stage of the game. Something like a fips that can shrink
 a Linux partition. No? Just thought I'd ask before
 reinstalling...

You can use files for swap space as well, so if you really don't want to
repartition, you could just add more swap by using a file.

I've never actually done it before, but I'd imaging you'd want to do
something like this:

(this will give you a file 4Mb large, containing all 0's, in the root
directory)
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1k count=4096

(format it as a swap file)
# mkswap /swapfile 4096

(flush the disk cache)
# sync

(put it to use)
# swapon /swapfile

To automatically use it on boot:
Edit the /etc/fstab file and add the line:
/swapfile  swap  swap  defaults 0 0

It should work... you might have to play around with the mount options
though.

Google gave me this link (among others) with the search string swap
file linux:
http://wip.wi-inf.uni-essen.de/doc/LDP/install-guide/node187.html

... if you want to read more on the subject.

Matthew



Re: Pb installing Mozilla

2000-07-13 Thread Felix Natter
Benoit NOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello,
 I have a debian 2.1 (stable version)
 In the stable tree of the debian ftp server, I haven't found mozilla, so
 I decided to download it from unstable tree.
 I had to update lots of libraries to make it work, and I'm not sure I
 did all well because ./mozilla-installer send me an error about
 libstd++-libc6.so not available or something like that (I downloaded the
 right libstdc++*.deb package) .
 Is there a simplier way to get it work? (it's hard for me cause I'm new
 to Linux)

the binaries are built/packaged for redhat. Because of bugs in glibc 2.0.x,
it will crash sometimes, but you can run it. I get it to run by downloading
the sources (~25M), and building them (takes about 200M(?), ./configure 
make). This is simple, it just takes lots of bandwidth and disk-space.

BTW:
is there still a testsuite coming with M16 ?

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RE: MS Proxy

2000-07-13 Thread Michal NOVÁK

 
 Whereas if you have another device controlling your link, 
 then use that 
 device's IP as your default gateway.  You may need to 
 configure said device 
 to accept/route/proxy/etc your IP.
 
 Look at [start] -- settings -- control panel -- Network 
 then click on 
 the /Protocols\ tab then double click TCP/IP then click on 
 the /Gateway\ 
 tab then note the IP for the gateway.  There may be more than 
 one, but the 
 top one is the primary.
 
 Then go to your debian machine, and edit /etc/networks/interfaces
 
 Mine looks like this
  # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for 
 ifup(8), ifdown(8)
  # The loopback interface
  iface lo inet loopback
  # The first network card - this entry was created during the 
 Debian installation
  # (network, broadcast and gateway are optional)
  iface eth0 inet static
  address 192.168.1.2
  netmask 255.255.255.0
  network 192.168.1.0
  broadcast 192.168.1.255
  gateway 192.168.1.1
 
 (yes - that third paragraph was a dig at NT toadies, and I 
 have two of the 
 bloody things at work.)
 
 

There is DHCP in our network.
I try to use dante-clients but that don't work, I'm not sure with
configuration. 

Michal



Re: apt-get problems

2000-07-13 Thread kmself
On Wed, Jul 12, 2000 at 02:15:49PM +0200, Jens Luedicke wrote:
 Hi there ...
 
 I messed up some files on my system and needed to
 reinstall everything again. When I was finished with
 all my packages I wanted to run apt-get update.
 
 apt-get fetched all the lists but when it was reading/parsing
 the lists, I got an error message:
 
 E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room!
 ...
 
 What wrong here?

Looks suspiciously as if you're out of memory.  Not unlikely when trying
to install a mess of packages.  What's your memory situation look like?
Swap?

$ free

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Re: introduce ourselves to you.

2000-07-13 Thread Frodo Baggins
Superband scripsit:
   
 
Dear Sir /Madam,
   We feel greatly honored to have the chance to c
   We are one of China's leading manufacturers of automobile aluminium 
 wheel moulds 

Junk mail here??? well, couldn't we avoid this?

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Re: user space nfsd?

2000-07-13 Thread Krzys Majewski
Can someone enlighten me? The remote machines to which I have access are
all Solaris, not Debian. What is userspace nfs and how do I set it up?
Or, where can I get the source for Solaris nfsd and will it work if I'm not
root? Presumably I will need to use some arbitrary non-privileged port;
will Linux mount(8) understand this? -chris

 
 HUH?!!!
 
 knfsd has problems afaik but I find this very difficult to believe.
 Userspace nfs has never crashed here since the past year on a mixture
 of machines, Debian-Sparc, Solaris 7, Solaris 2.5, 
 Debian x86, RH5.2, RH6, RH61..
 
 What kind of processing/loads/transfers do you have going ?
 
 Just an adverse pov ;)
 
 
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Re: apt-get problems

2000-07-13 Thread Frodo Baggins
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kmself@ix.netcom.com scripsit:
On Wed, Jul 12, 2000 at 02:15:49PM +0200, Jens Luedicke wrote:
 Hi there ...
 
 I messed up some files on my system and needed to
 reinstall everything again. When I was finished with
 all my packages I wanted to run apt-get update.
 
 apt-get fetched all the lists but when it was reading/parsing
 the lists, I got an error message:
 
 E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room!
 ...
 
 What wrong here?

Looks suspiciously as if you're out of memory.  Not unlikely when trying
to install a mess of packages.  What's your memory situation look like?
Swap?


It's not exactly the same thing, but I'd like to give you a warn (I
know, I know, I sould signal it as a bug... I'll do). In the In the
Installing Debian/Linux 2.1 for Intel x86 document they say, about
partitioning (section 4.2. Planing the use of the System):

[...] Notably, the Debian '/var' partition contains a lot of state
information. [...], you should usually allocate at least 50Mb for
/var.

Well, I did it. I even allocated 128Mb, just to be on the sure
side. But during istallation it crashed. Infact, apt uses a
subdirectory of /var to put packages dowloaded but not yet installed
and at installation time you need a lot of packages. 

Then it seems to me that there are only two alternatives:

  make an huge /var partition, knowing that there will be a lot of
unused space after your installation is complete, or

  don't make a partition neither of /var nor /usr, make a huge /
partition and let the system use the space as it needs.

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Re: apt-get problems

2000-07-13 Thread Matthew Dalton
Frodo Baggins wrote:
 
 It's not exactly the same thing, but I'd like to give you a warn (I
 know, I know, I sould signal it as a bug... I'll do). In the In the
 Installing Debian/Linux 2.1 for Intel x86 document they say, about
 partitioning (section 4.2. Planing the use of the System):
 
 [...] Notably, the Debian '/var' partition contains a lot of state
 information. [...], you should usually allocate at least 50Mb for
 /var.
 
 Well, I did it. I even allocated 128Mb, just to be on the sure
 side. But during istallation it crashed. Infact, apt uses a
 subdirectory of /var to put packages dowloaded but not yet installed
 and at installation time you need a lot of packages.

apt-get downloads *.deb files to /var/cache/apt/archives, so you do need
space there. It's not an apt-get bug, but it might be a documentation
one.

 Then it seems to me that there are only two alternatives:
 
   make an huge /var partition, knowing that there will be a lot of
 unused space after your installation is complete, or
 
   don't make a partition neither of /var nor /usr, make a huge /
 partition and let the system use the space as it needs.

third alternative:
- make a directory /usr/local/apt
- copy the stuff in /var/cache/apt to it:
  $ cd /var/cache/apt
  $ tar cf - * | (cd /usr/local/apt; tar xvf - )
- after making sure that everything copied okay, delete everything under
/var/cache/apt:
  $ cd /var/cache
  $ rm -rf apt   # be careful with this!
- symlink to the new location
  $ ln -s /usr/local/apt apt

Now apt-get will download packages and they will go on the same
partition that /usr/local lives on.

Matthew



Re: apt-get problems

2000-07-13 Thread Pap Tibor
Frodo Baggins wrote:

  I messed up some files on my system and needed to
  reinstall everything again. When I was finished with
  all my packages I wanted to run apt-get update.
 
  apt-get fetched all the lists but when it was reading/parsing
  the lists, I got an error message:
 
  E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room!


 It's not exactly the same thing, but I'd like to give you a warn (I

Yes, because it has happened during apt-get update, and not during upgrade.

 Well, I did it. I even allocated 128Mb, just to be on the sure
 side. But during istallation it crashed. Infact, apt uses a
 subdirectory of /var to put packages dowloaded but not yet installed
 and at installation time you need a lot of packages.

 Then it seems to me that there are only two alternatives:

   make an huge /var partition, knowing that there will be a lot of
 unused space after your installation is complete, or

   don't make a partition neither of /var nor /usr, make a huge /
 partition and let the system use the space as it needs.

Or just download the packages before installing them.

--papt




Re: named.conf

2000-07-13 Thread Alberto Rodríguez Ortega

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At 16.15 11/7/00 +0100, Oliver Schoenknecht wrote:
Hey everyone,

when I restart my nameserver via the ndc reload-command, it
tells me the following :

dialin named[984]: /etc/named.conf:9: syntax error near allow-
transfer
Jul 11 16:06:44 dialin named[984]: /etc/named.conf:12: syntax
error near '}'

Alas,

the first twenty-one lines of /etc/named.conf are

// generated by named-bootconf.pl

options {
 directory /var/named;
 forward only;
 forwarders {
 194.231.62.3;
// Add this braket just here
}

allow-transfer {
194.231.62.0/27;
};
 };
 /*
  * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want
  * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source
  * directive below.  Previous versions of BIND always asked
  * questions using port 53, but BIND 8.1 uses an unprivileged
  * port by default.
  */
 // query-source address * port 53;
};

So what the hell am I doing wrong ?

Any help is appreciated very well - as always :-) !

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Re: apt-get problems

2000-07-13 Thread Frodo Baggins
Matthew Dalton scripsit:
Frodo Baggins wrote:
 
 It's not exactly the same thing, but I'd like to give you a warn (I
 know, I know, I sould signal it as a bug... I'll do).
[...]
apt-get downloads *.deb files to /var/cache/apt/archives, so you do need
space there. It's not an apt-get bug, but it might be a documentation
one.

Exactly my point :)



 Then it seems to me that there are only two alternatives:
 
   make an huge /var partition, knowing that there will be a lot of
 unused space after your installation is complete, or
 
   don't make a partition neither of /var nor /usr, make a huge /
 partition and let the system use the space as it needs.

third alternative:
- make a directory /usr/local/apt
- copy the stuff in /var/cache/apt to it:
  $ cd /var/cache/apt
  $ tar cf - * | (cd /usr/local/apt; tar xvf - )
- after making sure that everything copied okay, delete everything under
/var/cache/apt:
  $ cd /var/cache
  $ rm -rf apt   # be careful with this!
- symlink to the new location
  $ ln -s /usr/local/apt apt

Now apt-get will download packages and they will go on the same
partition that /usr/local lives on.

Of course it will work But it's awful :))) moreover, the basic
user which never installed a unix cold have some problem doing this
who means switching from installation to a side shell...

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Re: apt-get problems

2000-07-13 Thread Frodo Baggins
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Matthew Dalton scripsit:
Frodo Baggins wrote:
 
 It's not exactly the same thing, but I'd like to give you a warn (I
 know, I know, I sould signal it as a bug... I'll do).
[...]
apt-get downloads *.deb files to /var/cache/apt/archives, so you do need
space there. It's not an apt-get bug, but it might be a documentation
one.

Exactly my point :)



 Then it seems to me that there are only two alternatives:
 
   make an huge /var partition, knowing that there will be a lot of
 unused space after your installation is complete, or
 
   don't make a partition neither of /var nor /usr, make a huge /
 partition and let the system use the space as it needs.

third alternative:
- make a directory /usr/local/apt
- copy the stuff in /var/cache/apt to it:
  $ cd /var/cache/apt
  $ tar cf - * | (cd /usr/local/apt; tar xvf - )
- after making sure that everything copied okay, delete everything under
/var/cache/apt:
  $ cd /var/cache
  $ rm -rf apt   # be careful with this!
- symlink to the new location
  $ ln -s /usr/local/apt apt

Now apt-get will download packages and they will go on the same
partition that /usr/local lives on.

Of course it will work But it's awful :))) moreover, the basic
user which never installed a unix cold have some problem doing this
who means switching from installation to a side shell...

- -- 
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Re: apt-get problems

2000-07-13 Thread Frodo Baggins
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Matthew Dalton scripsit:
Frodo Baggins wrote:
 
 It's not exactly the same thing, but I'd like to give you a warn (I
 know, I know, I sould signal it as a bug... I'll do).
[...]
apt-get downloads *.deb files to /var/cache/apt/archives, so you do need
space there. It's not an apt-get bug, but it might be a documentation
one.

Exactly my point :)



 Then it seems to me that there are only two alternatives:
 
   make an huge /var partition, knowing that there will be a lot of
 unused space after your installation is complete, or
 
   don't make a partition neither of /var nor /usr, make a huge /
 partition and let the system use the space as it needs.

third alternative:
- make a directory /usr/local/apt
- copy the stuff in /var/cache/apt to it:
  $ cd /var/cache/apt
  $ tar cf - * | (cd /usr/local/apt; tar xvf - )
- after making sure that everything copied okay, delete everything under
/var/cache/apt:
  $ cd /var/cache
  $ rm -rf apt   # be careful with this!
- symlink to the new location
  $ ln -s /usr/local/apt apt

Now apt-get will download packages and they will go on the same
partition that /usr/local lives on.

Of course it will work But it's awful :))) moreover, the basic
user which never installed a unix cold have some problem doing this
who means switching from installation to a side shell...

- -- 
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annoying C-s terminal freeze

2000-07-13 Thread Thomas Guettler
I don't like control-s to freeze my terminal.
Is there a way to disable it?
Why not make a freeze disabled terminal the
default in debian?
I can't see why some wants its terminal to 
freeze. 

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RE: networking questions

2000-07-13 Thread CHEONG, Shu Yang \(Patrick\)
As all M$ Windows 95/98/NT/2000 uses a protocal called SMB (Sesssions
Message Block), you will have to install SaMBa (http://www.samba.org). The
debs are kept in net and otherosfs. To configure SaMBa, I strongly suggest
you also download/ apt-get SWAT (Samba Web Administration Tool). Once
installed, use SWAT to configure the smb.conf in /etc/.and remember to
include a line in your smb.conf: browseable = yes; so that your Win machines
can see the shared directories in the Network Neighborhood.

If you have any trouble/ difficulties, you can e-mail me and I will guide
you through.

Cheers.

Patrick

Where do you want to go today
...as far away from Redmond as possible

Only dead fish go with the flow..

 -Original Message-
 From: Franco Cone [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:17 AM
 To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject:  networking questions
 
 Howdy!
 
I have a few networking questions..hope you guys won't mind :) I have 2
 networked machines (win98  debian GNU) as of this moment using ethernet
 10baseT cat 5 connected to a hub. My questions are:
 
   1.how do I let win98 see the debian box thru network neighborhood?
   2.how do I make debian see win98? I don't thinks there's network
 neighborhood for debian..is there?
  
 Sorry for my stupid questions but I'm kinda new here and I don't know
 where to start.If anybody can give me a head start  point me to some good
 documentation/explanation out there Regarding this matter I would forever
 be in
 your debt ;)
 
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RE: annoying C-s terminal freeze

2000-07-13 Thread Michalowski Thierry
Title: RE: annoying C-s terminal freeze





Hi,
if you have a terminal without (enough) scrolling capabilities and a lot of messages you do want to read when they appear, then freezing is just handy.

I think you can bind the freezing of the terminal to other keycodes than Ctrl-s, but I did not try to, so I suggest you read the appropriate manuals for the appropriate terminal emulators...unless others have already working tips!

HTH
Thierry Michalowski 
 
From: Thomas Guettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]


I can't see why some wants its terminal to 
freeze. 





RE: annoying C-s terminal freeze

2000-07-13 Thread Stephan Engelke
Hi, 

Michalowski Thierry writes:

 I think you can bind the freezing of the terminal to other keycodes than
 Ctrl-s, but I did not try to, so I suggest you read the appropriate manuals
 for the appropriate terminal emulators...unless others have already working
 tips!

stty is your friend.stty stop ^s is a default setting.  Check
stty's manpage for details.

Ragards -- Stephan
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VM problem.

2000-07-13 Thread Marcio Rosa da Silva
Sometimes, the CPU of my machine goes up and this appears in my
/var/log/messages:

Jul 13 08:39:12 brain kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for http...
Jul 13 08:39:16 brain kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for wmppp...
Jul 13 08:39:16 brain kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for wmifs...
Jul 13 08:39:16 brain kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gpm...

(the applications change, ie, it doesn't happen with the same
applications)

What is happening???

I'm using unstable with kernel 2.2.17

Thanks!

Marcio


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dial-up

2000-07-13 Thread Chris Mason
I'd like to add one dial-up access modem to my firewall machine. What do I
need to install to the machine to allow dial-up access?

Chris Mason
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Re: error messages from dpkg

2000-07-13 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: error messages from dpkg
Date: Wed, Jul 12, 2000 at 02:26:04PM -0400

In reply to:Michael Soulier

Quoting Michael Soulier([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 On Wed, Jul 12, 2000 at 11:22:59AM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote:
  Go to /var/lib/dpkg/info and run the script by hand
  (it should be called something like dhcpcd.postinst).
  If it's a sh script (starts with #!/bin/sh) you can put a
  set -x
  on the line after the #!/bin/sh and then run the script.
  This will print every command as it is executed.
  -chris
 
 Cool, I'll try that. Thanks. 

Or just 
$: bash -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/dhcpcd.postinst

works fine.

:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)

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Re: VM problem.

2000-07-13 Thread Moritz Schulte
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 08:47:04AM +, Marcio Rosa da Silva wrote:

[...]
 Jul 13 08:39:12 brain kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for http...
[...]
 I'm using unstable with kernel 2.2.17
[...]

2.2.17? do you mean 2.2.16 or 2.2.17pre? it's a problem in 2.2.16. if
you are running .16, try the latest .17pre.

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Swat too slow

2000-07-13 Thread Willi Dyck
Hi List,

it is not really a problem, but when I call swat from a windows client,
it takes a very long time
til I get an answer. (3-5 min.). After this time I can use swat
normally.
Can anyone help me?
thanx





RE: Swat too slow

2000-07-13 Thread Michalowski Thierry
Title: RE: Swat too slow





This sounds like a DNS lookup problem.
Check your (Windows) network configuration.
My 0.02 ...


-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:14 PM
To: debian-user-list
Subject: Swat too slow



Hi List,


it is not really a problem, but when I call swat from a windows client,
it takes a very long time
til I get an answer. (3-5 min.). After this time I can use swat
normally.
Can anyone help me?
thanx





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Re: Any recommendations for notebooks that work well with Linux?

2000-07-13 Thread I. Tura
Sorry Rogerio to sending the message to you twice. Absent-minded I am.



If Microsoft has not changed its contract (EULA or similar) you can 
demand
a refund for the OS you are not going to use. I read this from a man in
Australia that also wiped W98 to use just Red Hat in its notebook. He had
to deal with surprised Toshiba people and wait some months, but at last he
had his check. I thought you would find this interesting as you mention
your budget.


Found this on Altavista about eight months ago.



I.


At 19.39 11/7/00 -0300, heu escrit:

   Dear fellow users,

   I'm now in the market for a portable computer and I'd like to
   buy an inexpensive notebook (I've got a limited budget for
   that). While a have considerable experience with running Linux
   for desktop computers, I have never used a notebook for more
   than a few minutes.

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Re: user space nfsd?

2000-07-13 Thread Ragga Muffin

Krzys Majewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can someone enlighten me? The remote machines to which I have access are
 all Solaris, not Debian. What is userspace nfs and how do I set it up?
 Or, where can I get the source for Solaris nfsd and will it work if I'm not
 root? Presumably I will need to use some arbitrary non-privileged port;
 will Linux mount(8) understand this? -chris

Solaris comes with nfs (heh, nfs was sun's invention afterall).

Check tha manual pages for 'nfsd' and 'sharetab'.

And yes, you must be root to make any settings etc..
It's actually very probable that you have nfsd running, but with
blank settings...

And as I said, we have no problems here mounting those files from linux
clients.
(Don't worry about user vs kernelspace, that's for linux only)


HTH,

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ssh and telnet connecting problem

2000-07-13 Thread Willi Dyck
Hi,

i can't connect from a ssh or telnet client to my Linux machine. I've
installed everything that is needed.
i get the message: connection established and then nothing happens. no
problem with FTPclient.
do i have to add some lines in /etc/inetd.conf or any other
configuration file? Any deamons to start?
thanx for your help





Creative Soundblaster 16 PnP ISA

2000-07-13 Thread Willi Dyck
Hi List,

i can't get my soundblaster to work. i' ve compiled it in the kernel
with the io, irq, dma, and dma16 settings i have in DOS
(io=220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5). i also tried other settings but it doesn't
work!
dmesg output:
sound initialisation start
sound initialisation end
nothing more.

i have a bootable Linux Mp3 player disk which works great with my
soundblaster.

anyone has a suggestion what i  forgot?
if it helps i use kernel 2.2.14 and Debian 2.1 R4
thanx



dselect doesn't work on 8Meg machine anymore?

2000-07-13 Thread Mark Phillips
My brother is trying to upgrade debian from slink to potato on his
8Meg RAM machine.  He has about 20Meg swap as well.  Dselect is very
very slow --- lots of swapping.  And try to install stuff, and it
bombs out with not enough memory!

Now his machine has always been a bit slow, but we've always been able
to use dselect before.  What's changed?  Too many packages?  And what
can be done about it?  (We are used the apt method to install.)

Cheers,

Mark.

P.S. Please cc replies directly to me as I read the list via the
archives, and there is a several day delay.

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Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread Nils Lohner

I need to set up a Debian box (potato) to connect to to some machines that 
are set up to receive the 'Dialup Networking' connection from Windoze, and 
there's no shell access so you basically need the protocol as far as I can 
tell.  Is there any way to set this up to allow Debian boxes to connect via 
ppp to these machines?  Searching through the packages didn't show anything 
that could emulate the windoze dialup procedures...  or is the dialup 
networking just PPP negotiation?

Please copy me on replies; I'm not on -user.

Thanks, Nils.




MS Proxy with Linux

2000-07-13 Thread Timothy C. Phan
Hi,

  Have anyone been able to use MS Proxy Server with
  Linux client?

  Please explain the configuration of the MS proxy server
  as well as the Linux client box!

  TIA

---
tcp



Re: MS Proxy with Linux

2000-07-13 Thread Gianluca Montecchi
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 08:01:26AM -0500, Timothy C. Phan wrote:
= Hi,
= 
=   Have anyone been able to use MS Proxy Server with
=   Linux client?
= 
=   Please explain the configuration of the MS proxy server
=   as well as the Linux client box!

Try to use the tsocks library, setting the LD_PRELOAD env to the library

bye

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compiling 2.4.0 kernels on potato

2000-07-13 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi,

I'm trying to compile 2.4.0-test3 on potato unsuccessfully!
The error is:

gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2  
-fomit-frame-pointer -pipe  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i586
-fno-strict-aliasing   -c -o timer.o timer.c
timer.c: In function `update_process_times':
timer.c:580: structure has no member named `priority'
timer.c:580: `DEF_PRIORITY' undeclared (first use in this function)
timer.c:580: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
timer.c:580: for each function it appears in.)
make[3]: *** [timer.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/kernel'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/kernel'
make[1]: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux'
make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2

Does somebody successfully compile 2.4.0 in Potato?
Any help is welcome!

[]s,
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Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread Joey Hess
Nils Lohner wrote:
 I need to set up a Debian box (potato) to connect to to some machines that 
 are set up to receive the 'Dialup Networking' connection from Windoze, and 
 there's no shell access so you basically need the protocol as far as I can 
 tell.  Is there any way to set this up to allow Debian boxes to connect via 
 ppp to these machines?  Searching through the packages didn't show anything 
 that could emulate the windoze dialup procedures...  or is the dialup 
 networking just PPP negotiation?

It's probably just PAP but I've never actually had to try it.

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Re: dselect doesn't work on 8Meg machine anymore?

2000-07-13 Thread Thomas Guettler
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 05:21:03PM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote:
 My brother is trying to upgrade debian from slink to potato on his
 8Meg RAM machine.  He has about 20Meg swap as well.  Dselect is very
 very slow --- lots of swapping.  And try to install stuff, and it
 bombs out with not enough memory!
 
 Now his machine has always been a bit slow, but we've always been able
 to use dselect before.  What's changed?  Too many packages?  And what
 can be done about it?  (We are used the apt method to install.)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mark.
 

I installed with dselect on my laptop (8M RAM, 40 Swap).
It is very slow. But it worked once. Now I use dpkg.


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Re: automated data distribution

2000-07-13 Thread Thomas Guettler
On Wed, Jul 12, 2000 at 02:02:45PM -0500, Ashley Clark wrote:
 I'm trying to find some software that will work with Linux to
 facilitate automatic data distribution across a Win9x/NT network. Does
 anything like this exist for Linux? Preferably Free (speech, not beer)
 but I'll take any suggestions. It's for distributing a custom warranty
 application at a networked office I help out at.
 
 I'd really like something clean, am I just going to have do something
 with logon scripts under Samba? or is there another way?
 

if you want to install a ftp on every client you can do it with ftp.
But you could do it with smbclient (part of samba), too.





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Lastest sawfish debs?

2000-07-13 Thread Richard Black
Hi all

I was wondering when the latest sawfish (aka sawmill) debs are likely to
arrive on the scene?  The latest seems to be 0.26 (in woody) but the
official release is 0.3.

thanks

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Re: VM problem.

2000-07-13 Thread Marcio Rosa da Silva
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Moritz Schulte wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 08:47:04AM +, Marcio Rosa da Silva wrote:
 
 [...]
  Jul 13 08:39:12 brain kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for http...
 [...]
  I'm using unstable with kernel 2.2.17
 [...]
 
 2.2.17? do you mean 2.2.16 or 2.2.17pre? it's a problem in 2.2.16. if
 you are running .16, try the latest .17pre.

yes, I'm running 2.2.17pre.


Marcio

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Re: Any recommendations for notebooks that work well with Linux?

2000-07-13 Thread Marcio Rosa da Silva
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, I. Tura wrote:

 At 19.39 11/7/00 -0300, heu escrit:
 
  Dear fellow users,
 
  I'm now in the market for a portable computer and I'd like to
  buy an inexpensive notebook (I've got a limited budget for
  that). While a have considerable experience with running Linux
  for desktop computers, I have never used a notebook for more
  than a few minutes.

look at:

http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/

there is a list of notebooks and the problems/solutions to install Linux
in.


[]s,

Marcio

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Re: Debian + other distribution

2000-07-13 Thread Ricardo Gabriel Herdt

 Hi debian community,

 Well,

I erased all on my HD and installed just RedHat,
  Now I want to install Debian 2.2 without erase RedHat. 
 My question is about lilo. On the installation of RedHat I installed lilo
on the MBR.  But my version of lilo is a bit old. So I prefer to use Debian's
lilo. How should I proceed to do this?
 I thought in install Debian's lilo on it's partition and live RedHat's
lilo on the MBR, so I would use my old lilo ( I think it wouldn't be so
bad). Maybe I erase RedHat's lilo and install Debian lilo's on the MBR and
configure it's lilo.conf too boot both distro's. If I install two lilos, one
on the MBR and the other on debian's partitions this won't confuse the computer
on the boot? What should I do?  
I'd like that you explain it step by step.

   Thanks,
  Ricardo Gabriel Herdt
  



Re: compiling 2.4.0 kernels on potato

2000-07-13 Thread Moritz Schulte
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 10:24:55AM -0300, Mario Olimpio de Menezes
wrote:

   I'm trying to compile 2.4.0-test3 on potato unsuccessfully!

it's a kernel problem..

[...]
 timer.c: In function `update_process_times':
 timer.c:580: structure has no member named `priority'
 timer.c:580: `DEF_PRIORITY' undeclared (first use in this function)
 timer.c:580: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
 timer.c:580: for each function it appears in.)
[...]

use the following patch:

--- linux/kernel/timer.c.orig   Thu Jul 13 15:51:31 2000
+++ linux/kernel/timer.cThu Jul 13 15:53:25 2000
@@ -577,7 +577,7 @@
p-counter = 0;
p-need_resched = 1;
}
-   if (p-priority  DEF_PRIORITY)
+   if (p-nice  DEF_NICE)
kstat.cpu_nice += user_tick;
else
kstat.cpu_user += user_tick;

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Re: VM problem.

2000-07-13 Thread Moritz Schulte
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 10:56:04AM +, Marcio Rosa da Silva wrote:

  [...]
   Jul 13 08:39:12 brain kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for http...
  [...]
   I'm using unstable with kernel 2.2.17
  [...]
  
  2.2.17? do you mean 2.2.16 or 2.2.17pre? it's a problem in 2.2.16. if
  you are running .16, try the latest .17pre.
 
 yes, I'm running 2.2.17pre.

which? pre10 or pre11?
if this doesn't solve the problem, you should report it on linux
kernel mailing list..

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Re: VM problem.

2000-07-13 Thread Marcio Rosa da Silva
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Moritz Schulte wrote:

 which? pre10 or pre11?
 if this doesn't solve the problem, you should report it on linux
 kernel mailing list..

No. pre6-1 which is in unstable. I just used dselect and selected the most
recent avaliable there. Maybe I must download another version and compile.

Thanks!

Marcio

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Re: VM problem.

2000-07-13 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 04:00:36PM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 10:56:04AM +, Marcio Rosa da Silva wrote:
 
   [...]
Jul 13 08:39:12 brain kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for 
http...
   [...]
I'm using unstable with kernel 2.2.17
   [...]
   
   2.2.17? do you mean 2.2.16 or 2.2.17pre? it's a problem in 2.2.16. if
   you are running .16, try the latest .17pre.
  
  yes, I'm running 2.2.17pre.
 
 which? pre10 or pre11?
 if this doesn't solve the problem, you should report it on linux
 kernel mailing list..

pre10 is better (than previous) but didn't cure this problem.
I saw this this message many times on kernel list :(

Mirek



Re: Lastest sawfish debs?

2000-07-13 Thread Marti Hooijmans
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Richard Black wrote:

Hi all

I was wondering when the latest sawfish (aka sawmill) debs are likely to
arrive on the scene?  The latest seems to be 0.26 (in woody) but the
official release is 0.3.

Hello Richard,

If you add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list, you
directly access the deb-archives of the helix-gnome project,
and they have all the latest in gnome, sawmill (inc sawmill 0.30),
etc.:

deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable 
main

Now you can access the latest gnome-helix packages using apt. They
will end in -helix, signifing that they're not official debian
packages but Helix packages, ex. :

ii  sawfish-gnome  0.30-helix1GNOME components for Sawfish

I don't know if you're willing to count Helix Code as a part of the
'scene'. But they provide the debs.
Greets,

Marti Hooijmans









ownership permissions of /var/spool/news/control/

2000-07-13 Thread Richard E. Hawkins

I got a message of problems back from the news daemon as it tried to
work with this directory.  It cant do anything with it, as it is 
root:root and 755.  

I assume this is wrong.  Did something weird happen to me, or should I 
file a bug report?

hawk




Re: Lastest sawfish debs?

2000-07-13 Thread Brian Stults
Richard Black wrote:
 
 Hi all
 
 I was wondering when the latest sawfish (aka sawmill) debs are likely to
 arrive on the scene?  The latest seems to be 0.26 (in woody) but the
 official release is 0.3.
 
 thanks
 
 Richard

I got the .30 version via apt a couple days ago.  You might want to
check again.
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Re: swap partition too small

2000-07-13 Thread Ethan Pierce
I use a bootable partition magic diskette to move partitions
around.works flawlessly.  Let me know if you want the disks
- Original Message -
From: Tony Laszlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 12:58 AM
Subject: swap partition too small


 In trying to conserve the little hard disk space
 (110M) that I have, I have unfortunately made the
 swap partition too small when installing Debian. I
 know I should probably pay penance and do the install
 all over again, but am wondering if there is a way to
 carve out a portion of the hard disk for swap at this
 stage of the game. Something like a fips that can shrink
 a Linux partition. No? Just thought I'd ask before
 reinstalling...

 Tony Laszlo
 Tokyo









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Re: XFree86 server for ATI Rage 128 Pro

2000-07-13 Thread Brian Stults
I had to upgrade to 4.0 you use my card.  The debs aren't available yet
for reasons that have already been discussed on this list.  However, you
can get the binaries or source code from xfree86.org.  I used the
binaries and it was a snap.  The driver is called r128.  They have
pretty good documentation for how to get it running in the Release
Notes.

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Re: swap partition too small

2000-07-13 Thread Tony Laszlo

Many thanks to Jeff and Matthew for the advice on 
my swap dilemma. 

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Jeff Green wrote:

 Find someone who owns a copy of pq-magic. The DOS version will run from

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Matthew Dalton wrote:

 (this will give you a file 4Mb large, containing all 0's, in the root
 directory)
 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1k count=4096
 
 (format it as a swap file)
 # mkswap /swapfile 4096
 



kernel null pointer violations

2000-07-13 Thread Michael Soulier
Well, I ditched dhcp last night and tried setting up the ethernet card
with just ifconfig and a static IP. I got the same kernel complaints. So, it's
not dhcp. 
Now, I looked on the cdrom that Rogers gave me. 

Under directory /cdrom/NETCARDS/SOHOware/SFA110A.PCI/LINUX I find...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX]$ ls
README.TXT  TULIP.C

The readme says to use the tulip driver, which I have, and it has detected
the ethernet card perfectly. So, I'm convinced that I have the right driver. I
think it's a problem in the kernel. Since I have no idea what VA Linux Systems
did to this kernel, I'm going to grab 2.2.17 from Potato. Hopefully that'll
fix the problem. 

*g*

Mike

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Debian + other distribution (more questions)

2000-07-13 Thread Ricardo Gabriel Herdt

Hi again, debianers,

  continuing my questions about two distributions on the samen HD,

 Somebody told me that Debian could use the same swap partition of my
RedHat. So, when I install Debian, should I select it to initialize the
existent swap partition or this will damage my RedHat? How should I proceed if
the answer be of you: No, don't initialize the existent swap partition!
   
Thanks again,
 Ricardo Gabriel Herdt 


Em qui, 13 jul 2000, Ricardo wrote:
 Hi debian community,
 
  Well,
 
 I erased all on my HD and installed just RedHat,
   Now I want to install Debian 2.2 without erase RedHat. 
  My question is about lilo. On the installation of RedHat I installed lilo
 on the MBR.  But my version of lilo is a bit old. So I prefer to use Debian's
 lilo. How should I proceed to do this?
  I thought in install Debian's lilo on it's partition and live RedHat's
 lilo on the MBR, so I would use my old lilo ( I think it wouldn't be so
 bad). Maybe I erase RedHat's lilo and install Debian lilo's on the MBR and
 configure it's lilo.conf too boot both distro's. If I install two lilos, one
 on the MBR and the other on debian's partitions this won't confuse the 
 computer
 on the boot? What should I do?  
 I'd like that you explain it step by step.
 
Thanks,
   Ricardo Gabriel Herdt



Re: dial-up

2000-07-13 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Chris Mason wrote:
 
 I'd like to add one dial-up access modem to my firewall machine. What do I
 need to install to the machine to allow dial-up access?
 
mgetty, pppd,  a modem!



Re: Lastest sawfish debs?

2000-07-13 Thread Corey Popelier
Thats all good and well if  you want to upgrade to helix gnome. What if
you just want to run standard gnome, and use sawfish 0.30? Does the
development of helix gnome now mean sawfish wont be packaged into woody as
a standalone window manager now?

Cheers,
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Marti Hooijmans wrote:

 On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Richard Black wrote:
 
 Hi all
 
 I was wondering when the latest sawfish (aka sawmill) debs are likely to
 arrive on the scene?  The latest seems to be 0.26 (in woody) but the
 official release is 0.3.
 
 Hello Richard,
 
 If you add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list, you
 directly access the deb-archives of the helix-gnome project,
 and they have all the latest in gnome, sawmill (inc sawmill 0.30),
 etc.:
 
 deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable 
 main
 
 Now you can access the latest gnome-helix packages using apt. They
 will end in -helix, signifing that they're not official debian
 packages but Helix packages, ex. :
 
 ii  sawfish-gnome  0.30-helix1GNOME components for Sawfish
 
 I don't know if you're willing to count Helix Code as a part of the
 'scene'. But they provide the debs.
 Greets,
 
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Re: Creative Soundblaster 16 PnP ISA

2000-07-13 Thread Andrei Ivanov
Its a PNP, so you need:
1. Install isapnp package.
2. Run pnpdump and create a config file for your card.
3. Run isapnp with that file. Use IRQ,IO, etc settings same as you supply
to your kernel (if possible. pnpdump will tell you).
4. Compile sound support as a module. 
5. reboot with your new kernel, and insert sound modules.
I have a small guide written up on how to configure modem with
isapnpits the same thing.
http://arshes.dyndns.org/Linux/
HTH.
Andrei


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Re: apt-get problems

2000-07-13 Thread Bolan Meek
Frodo Baggins wrote:
 
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 kmself@ix.netcom.com scripsit:
 On Wed, Jul 12, 2000 at 02:15:49PM +0200, Jens Luedicke wrote:
  Hi there ...
 
  ...apt-get fetched all the lists but when it was reading/parsing
  the lists, I got an error message:
 
  E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room!
  ...
 
 Looks suspiciously as if you're out of memory.  Not unlikely when trying
 to install a mess of packages.  What's your memory situation look like?
 Swap?
 
 It's not exactly the same thing, but I'd like to give you a warn (I
 know, I know, I sould signal it as a bug... I'll do). In the In the
 Installing Debian/Linux 2.1 for Intel x86 document they say, about
 partitioning (section 4.2. Planing the use of the System):
 
 [...] Notably, the Debian '/var' partition contains a lot of state
 information. [...], you should usually allocate at least 50Mb for
 /var.
 
 Well, I did it. I even allocated 128Mb, just to be on the sure
 side. But during istallation it crashed. Infact, apt uses a
 subdirectory of /var to put packages dowloaded but not yet installed
 and at installation time you need a lot of packages.
 
 Then it seems to me that there are only two alternatives:
 
   make an huge /var partition, knowing that there will be a lot of
 unused space after your installation is complete, or
 
   don't make a partition neither of /var nor /usr, make a huge /
 partition and let the system use the space as it needs.

Like Yoda said, There is another...:
Don't choose _everything_ you're going to want all at once at
installation time.  Get your software in stages.

And... hey! Where'd that little hobbit go?

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Re: ownership permissions of /var/spool/news/control/

2000-07-13 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 10:27:25AM -0400, Richard E. Hawkins wrote:
 
 I got a message of problems back from the news daemon as it tried to
 work with this directory.  It cant do anything with it, as it is 
 root:root and 755.  

FWIW, a (somewhat) recent install of inn2 on potato here resulted in:

(ls -l /var/spool)

drwxr-sr-x9 news news 4096 Jun 12 19:40 news

which seems to work fine.

 I assume this is wrong.  Did something weird happen to me, or should I 
 file a bug report?

Is this a brand new install of inn, or something that popped up after inn
had been running for awhile?



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Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 06:33:47AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:

 It's probably just PAP but I've never actually had to try it.
 ^^^
 
Joey, typo, yes?  (And yeah, it's just ppp.)


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kdelibs3 in latest KDE2 builds working?

2000-07-13 Thread Bart Szyszka
Hi,

Has anyone else been having trouble getting the latest kdelibs3
for KDE2 in kde.tdyc.com working? It looks like the July 2-3 builds
are still the latest ones and I haven't been able to get them working
because it can't install kdelibs3. Keeps saying something about
subprocess returning an error... 1.

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Re: Lastest sawfish debs?

2000-07-13 Thread Eric Gillespie, Jr.
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 11:09:06PM +0800,
Corey Popelier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thats all good and well if you want to upgrade to helix gnome.
 What if you just want to run standard gnome, and use sawfish

Helix GNOME is standard GNOME. GNOME itself no longer provides
packages; that is left up to separate packaging projects (Debian,
Red Hat, Helix) instead. The difference between the Debian and
Helix packages is that the Helix packages are always more up to
date because Peter Teichman (the Helix Debian guy) is paid to
package GNOME for Debian, rather than doing it in his free time.

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Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread John Hasler
Nils Lohner writes:
 Searching through the packages didn't show anything that could emulate
 the windoze dialup procedures...  or is the dialup networking just PPP
 negotiation?

Probably.  Just run pppconfig and see what happens.  Email me if you need
help.  What are these machines running?
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Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread John Hasler
Bob Bernstein writes:
 Joey, typo, yes?  (And yeah, it's just ppp.)

PPP with PAP authentication.
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Re: MS Proxy with Linux

2000-07-13 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
The MS Proxy Server supports the special, proprietary Microsoft Proxy Server
service and also optionally supports the Socks4 protocol. The socks4
protocol must be enabled by the administrator. Once this is enabled you may
use the debian socks4-client (or whatever it's called) with the run-socks
script to run programs socksified.

I have been successfully using this for over a year now.

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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 9:01 AM
Subject: MS Proxy with Linux


 Hi,

   Have anyone been able to use MS Proxy Server with
   Linux client?

   Please explain the configuration of the MS proxy server
   as well as the Linux client box!

   TIA

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wu-ftpd chroot environment

2000-07-13 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Hi all Debian users,
I use proftp as a ftp server but now I have to maintain a wuftpd server
and want to know how to restring a client to a chroot dir (he can login into
ftp server but dont have to permit he to change to other dir another his home)
with wuftpd.
Anyone knows how to this?
Thanks, Paulo Henrique



keeping track of used IRQs?

2000-07-13 Thread Krzys Majewski
How can I keep track of the IRQs that different devices use?
Is there a utility for this? -chris




Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 11:22:51AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:

  Joey, typo, yes?  (And yeah, it's just ppp.)
 
 PPP with PAP authentication.

Did I misunderstand the question? Dialup Networking in Windows is not
restricted to PAP.

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RE: keeping track of used IRQs?

2000-07-13 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
cat /proc/interrupts

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 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 12:32 PM
 To: Debian user list (undigested)
 Subject: keeping track of used IRQs?
 
 
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 Is there a utility for this? -chris
 
 
 
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Re: keeping track of used IRQs?

2000-07-13 Thread Brendan Cully
On Thursday, 13 July 2000 at 10:31, Krzys Majewski wrote:
 How can I keep track of the IRQs that different devices use?
 Is there a utility for this? -chris

I guess you want something more than
cat /proc/interrupts
or
lspci -v

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Re: libssl09 vs libssl095a

2000-07-13 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Daniel Whelan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to install libapache-mod-ssl, but am unable to for the
following reason: libapache-mod-ssl depends on openssl and libssl09.
openssl depends on libssl095a. libssl09 and libssl095a conflict with one
another, making the whole thing unresolvable. :(

Any ideas on how to get around this, or should a bug report be filed
with someone?

Bugs have already been filed. Check out the bug list against libssl095a
in the BTS (http://www.debian.org/Bugs/)

No response from the maintainer yet though.

Mike.



unable to unmount

2000-07-13 Thread Suresh Kumar. R
Hi,

If I mount a cdrom and nfs mount it on some other machines, even after
the other machine is switched off, I am unable to umount the cdrom
from the server. I am using potato. I am forced to reboot the machine
to get the cdrom out. I tried fuser but no use

Any suggestions ?

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Re: Debian + other distribution (more questions)

2000-07-13 Thread morten
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 11:49:27AM -0300, Ricardo Gabriel Herdt wrote:
 
 Hi again, debianers,
 
   continuing my questions about two distributions on the samen HD,
 
  Somebody told me that Debian could use the same swap partition of my
 RedHat. So, when I install Debian, should I select it to initialize the
 existent swap partition or this will damage my RedHat? How should I proceed if
 the answer be of you: No, don't initialize the existent swap partition!

Just use the same swap, I know it can even be done with OpenBSD and
Linux sharing the same swap ...

I can't think of any problems with Linux + Linux, but you might need to
use 2.2.* kernels on both, but I'm not sure.

HAND
Morten

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Re: keeping track of used IRQs?

2000-07-13 Thread Krzys Majewski
cat /proc/interrupts is great, thanks to all who suggested this. -chris


On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Brendan Cully wrote:

 On Thursday, 13 July 2000 at 10:31, Krzys Majewski wrote:
  How can I keep track of the IRQs that different devices use?
  Is there a utility for this? -chris
 
 I guess you want something more than
 cat /proc/interrupts
 or
 lspci -v
 
 ?
 
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lilo

2000-07-13 Thread Timothy C. Phan
Hi,

  It seems to me that everytime I upgraded or installed a new
  version of the lilo, the configuration would also failed unless
  the currect directory is at root ('/').

  Any idea why and/or fixes?  TIA!

---
tcp



Re: lilo

2000-07-13 Thread Jonathan Heaney
It's just how lilo works.

There is a hint in the manpage as to a case you may want to be in a
different directory other than your / directory (the -r switch, which
does a chroot to the dir you specify).  The example given where this may
be useful is if you are repairing a setup from a boot floppy.

   It seems to me that everytime I upgraded or installed a new
   version of the lilo, the configuration would also failed unless
   the currect directory is at root ('/').
 
   Any idea why and/or fixes?  TIA!

Ours is not to reason why, just to get on with it!!!

Jonathan



Re: compiling 2.4.0 kernels on potato

2000-07-13 Thread Mike Garfias
Ok, its been too damned long since I've had to apply patches to anything.
Can you tell me the way the directories need to look in order to apply the
patch?  Umm, as well as the command needed to apply the patch.

Jeez, I feel like a gimp

Jonathan Heaney spoke forth with the blessed manuscript:
 Moritz, the patch has subsequently been corrected - you can use the
 updates in pub/linux/kernel/testing to get the latest patch.  I've
 amended the relevant section below.
 
 use the following patch:
  
  --- linux/kernel/timer.c.orig   Thu Jul 13 15:51:31 2000
  +++ linux/kernel/timer.cThu Jul 13 15:53:25 2000
  @@ -577,7 +577,7 @@
  p-counter = 0;
  p-need_resched = 1;
  }
  -   if (p-priority  DEF_PRIORITY)
  +   if (p-nice  DEF_NICE)
  ^^^
 wrong way round, it's now 
 
 or else everything is inverted.
 
 There are a few other chages required depending on arhcitecture / what
 drivers you are compiling so I would get the latest patch from testing
 (6, which I'm just about to compile - hopefully it has repaired the
 parport_pc problem that the last few have had, although there's a patch
 for that too).
 
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Re: compiling 2.4.0 kernels on potato

2000-07-13 Thread Moritz Schulte
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 07:56:25PM +0100, Jonathan Heaney wrote:

 Moritz, the patch has subsequently been corrected - you can use the
 updates in pub/linux/kernel/testing to get the latest patch.  I've
 amended the relevant section below.
[...]
 wrong way round, it's now 
[...]

thnx for the information. i saw the patch, i posted, on lkml.

 There are a few other chages required depending on arhcitecture / what
 drivers you are compiling so I would get the latest patch from testing
 (6, which I'm just about to compile - hopefully it has repaired the
 parport_pc problem that the last few have had, although there's a patch
 for that too).

good luck :)

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Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread John Hasler
Bob Bernstein writes:
 Did I misunderstand the question?

Nils asked about connecting some machines that serve Windows dialup clients
from Linux: i.e., what kind of weird authentication are they likely to use?
Joey answered that they most likely just use PAP.  Turns out he was right.
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Re: compiling 2.4.0 kernels on potato

2000-07-13 Thread Jonathan Heaney
Mike Garfias wrote:
 
 Ok, its been too damned long since I've had to apply patches to anything.
 Can you tell me the way the directories need to look in order to apply   
 the patch

OK assuming your kernel source is in /usr/src/linux, dump the file e.g.
test4-pre6.gz into /usr/src/linux and go:-

zcat test4-pre6.gz | patch -p1

then make away.

Jonathan



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