Adjunto script de testeo de HD
Hola a todos,
Me acabo de cambiar el disco duro por uno de 20GB (je, je X-)
Y como lo queria comprobar a fondo cada dia (hasta que se acabe la garantia :-)
ya que ya me he pillado los dedos dos veces por no hacerlo, he mejorado un
script que hace tiempo que hice y me ha quedado tan guai que os lo envio
para que lo disfruteis (que de eso va el soft libre, ¿no?)
¿alguien ha hecho algo parecido para testear la memoria? ¿Y la placa base?
Modo de uso (extraido del script):
# Uso: testhd # Testea todas las particiones de todos los discos
# testhd /dev/hda /dev/hdb# Testea los discos (todo seguido)
# testhd /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 # Testea las particiones
#
# Sugiero: Lanzar como root desde cron una vez a la semana, se nos enviará un
# mail con el resultado (Es una feature de cron ;-)
# También se puede usar por root desde un terminal mostrando progreso
¿A questa guai?
Saludos,
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#!/bin/sh
# testhd (0.02) Test de disco duro automático (usuario/cron)
#
# Copyright Manel Marin @ 2000 Cubierto por la licencia GNU GPL disponible en
# http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html Se puede copiar, distribuir y modificar
# libremente bajo los términos de la GPL e incluyendo siempre este párrafo
#
#
# Uso: testhd # Testea todas las particiones de todos los discos
# testhd /dev/hda /dev/hdb# Testea los discos (todo seguido)
# testhd /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 # Testea las particiones
#
# Sugiero: Lanzar como root desde cron una vez a la semana, se nos enviará un
# mail con el resultado (Es una feature de cron ;-)
# También se puede usar por root desde un terminal mostrando progreso
#
#6.11.99 (0.01)
# Utiliza df para conocer particiones y su tamaño
# y badblocks para testear las particiones montadas
#3.9.00 (0.02)
# Emplear df para mostrar ocupación
# Utilizar fdisk -l para hacer lista de particiones de todos los discos
# Utilizar fdisk -s para obtener los bloques de cada partición
# Mostrar progreso si se lanza desde usuario (y *NO* desde cron)
# Cronometrar el tiempo de test de cada partición y medir la carga del
#sistema antes y después
#
# SE ESPECIFICA PARTICION/ES A TESTEAR
if [ $1 != ]
then
echo testhd: Testeando $*
echo
TESTLIST=$*
else
# NO SE ESPECIFICA PARTICION A TESTEAR, TESTEAR TODAS LAS PARTICIONES
echo testhd: Testeando todas las particiones...
# HACER LISTA CON LAS PARTICIONES DE TODOS LOS DISCOS
TESTLIST=`fdisk -l | awk '
# Las particiones empiezan con /dev en la primera palabra, y no queremos
# las extendidas, ya que son contenedores para otras particiones
$1 ~ ^\/dev $0 !~ Extend { LISTA = LISTA $1 }
END { print LISTA }
'`
echo $TESTLIST
echo
fi
# EN MODO CONSOLA MOSTRAR PROGRESO (Desde cron *NO*)
# TRUCO: $USER no está definida en la ejecución desde cron
if [ $USER ]
then
MODE=-s # Lanzado por usuario: Mostrar progreso
else
MODE=-v # Lanzado por cron: NO mostrar progreso
fi
# MOSTRAR CARGA DEL SISTEMA
echo -n CARGA:
cat /proc/loadavg
# MOSTRAR INFO DE OCUPACION
echo DF:
df
echo
# PROCESAR LA LISTA (TEST DE PARTICIONES UNA A UNA)
for TEST in $TESTLIST
do
# CONSEGUIR EL TAMAÑO EN BLOQUES
HD_BLOCKS=`fdisk -s $TEST`
# TESTEAR HD Y DAR MENSAJE DE RESULTADO Y TIEMPO EMPLEADO
echo * Testeando $TEST de $HD_BLOCKS bloques
time badblocks $MODE $TEST $HD_BLOCKS
if [ $? == 0 ]
then
echo -n CARGA:
cat /proc/loadavg # Mostrar carga del sistema
echo
echo --- testhd: OK ---
else
echo -n CARGA:
cat /proc/loadavg # Mostrar carga del sistema
echo
echo !!! testhd: *** ERROR ** !!!
fi
echo
done
RE: Disquette de arranque lento
-Mensaje original- De: Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: jueves 31 de agosto de 2000 12:51 Asunto: Disquette de arranque lento Hola he instalado la Potato y durante el proceso de instalacion he creado el disquette de arranque (problemas con el lilo). Arrancar arranca bien pero lo hace muuyy leennto. Algo asi como 10 minutos. No obstante con otras distribuciones el proceso de arranque tarda 30 segundos. A que se debe esto? Como se corrige? Gracias. A mi también me pasa con el de la slink (¿o era la hamm?). Insoportablemente lento, a mi también me gustaría saber porqué ocurre. -- Ricardo Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft
Re: Disquette de arranque lento
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 12:27:18PM +0200, Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia wrote: Hola he instalado la Potato y durante el proceso de instalacion he creado el disquette de arranque (problemas con el lilo). Arrancar arranca bien pero lo hace muuyy leennto. Algo asi como 10 minutos. No obstante con otras distribuciones el proceso de arranque tarda 30 segundos. A que se debe esto? Como se corrige? Gracias. A lo mejor con más información ... -- Saludos a tos tos Javier Fafián Alvarez | Te pasas la vida haciendo planes, en un AMD-K6II a 350| pero la vida ya tiene sus RAM 64 Mb kernel 2.2.16 | propios planes ... Con Linux Debian woody (unestable) | -- JFA --
Instalacion Tarjeta Red TX NICIntel WOL UTP
Siento empezar así, pero como puedo instalar una Tarjeta de red incorporada en placa base 10/100 TX NIC Intel WOL UTP PCI de Compaq. He tenido que poner una 3com ISA (509B) que va perfecta, pero necesito hacer funcionar la otra. Gracias PD: no tengo ningun disco para configurarla como compatible NE2000 (si es que esto es posible). Como PCI NE200 sin mas no funciona. Igor Bustos e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://glub.ehu.es/ 'Grupo de LinuxUarios de Bizkaia'
Re: Adjunto script de testeo de HD
On dom, 03 sep 2000, Manel Marin escribió:
Hola a todos,
Me acabo de cambiar el disco duro por uno de 20GB (je, je X-)
Y como lo queria comprobar a fondo cada dia (hasta que se acabe la garantia
:-)
ya que ya me he pillado los dedos dos veces por no hacerlo, he mejorado un
script que hace tiempo que hice y me ha quedado tan guai que os lo envio
para que lo disfruteis (que de eso va el soft libre, ¿no?)
¿alguien ha hecho algo parecido para testear la memoria? ¿Y la placa base?
Compilate el kernel, con eso sobra. Un saludo.
Modo de uso (extraido del script):
# Uso: testhd# Testea todas las particiones de todos los
discos
# testhd /dev/hda /dev/hdb# Testea los discos (todo seguido)
# testhd /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 # Testea las particiones
#
# Sugiero: Lanzar como root desde cron una vez a la semana, se nos enviará un
# mail con el resultado (Es una feature de cron ;-)
# También se puede usar por root desde un terminal mostrando progreso
¿A questa guai?
Saludos,
--
-
Manel Marin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux Powered (Debian 2.2 potato) kernel 2.2.17
Mira mis chuletas de Linux en http://perso.wanadoo.es/manel3
-
Mi petición de drivers para Linux es la nº 33126
(Pasate por http://www.libranet.com/petition.html ;-)
#!/bin/sh
# testhd (0.02) Test de disco duro automático (usuario/cron)
#
# Copyright Manel Marin @ 2000 Cubierto por la licencia GNU GPL disponible en
# http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html Se puede copiar, distribuir y
modificar
# libremente bajo los términos de la GPL e incluyendo siempre este párrafo
#
#
# Uso: testhd# Testea todas las particiones de todos los
discos
# testhd /dev/hda /dev/hdb# Testea los discos (todo seguido)
# testhd /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 # Testea las particiones
#
# Sugiero: Lanzar como root desde cron una vez a la semana, se nos enviará un
# mail con el resultado (Es una feature de cron ;-)
# También se puede usar por root desde un terminal mostrando progreso
#
#6.11.99 (0.01)
# Utiliza df para conocer particiones y su tamaño
# y badblocks para testear las particiones montadas
#3.9.00 (0.02)
# Emplear df para mostrar ocupación
# Utilizar fdisk -l para hacer lista de particiones de todos los discos
# Utilizar fdisk -s para obtener los bloques de cada partición
# Mostrar progreso si se lanza desde usuario (y *NO* desde cron)
# Cronometrar el tiempo de test de cada partición y medir la carga del
# sistema antes y después
#
# SE ESPECIFICA PARTICION/ES A TESTEAR
if [ $1 != ]
then
echo testhd: Testeando $*
echo
TESTLIST=$*
else
# NO SE ESPECIFICA PARTICION A TESTEAR, TESTEAR TODAS LAS PARTICIONES
echo testhd: Testeando todas las particiones...
# HACER LISTA CON LAS PARTICIONES DE TODOS LOS DISCOS
TESTLIST=`fdisk -l | awk '
# Las particiones empiezan con /dev en la primera palabra, y no queremos
# las extendidas, ya que son contenedores para otras particiones
$1 ~ ^\/dev $0 !~ Extend { LISTA = LISTA $1 }
END { print LISTA }
'`
echo $TESTLIST
echo
fi
# EN MODO CONSOLA MOSTRAR PROGRESO (Desde cron *NO*)
# TRUCO: $USER no está definida en la ejecución desde cron
if [ $USER ]
then
MODE=-s # Lanzado por usuario: Mostrar progreso
else
MODE=-v # Lanzado por cron: NO mostrar progreso
fi
# MOSTRAR CARGA DEL SISTEMA
echo -n CARGA:
cat /proc/loadavg
# MOSTRAR INFO DE OCUPACION
echo DF:
df
echo
# PROCESAR LA LISTA (TEST DE PARTICIONES UNA A UNA)
for TEST in $TESTLIST
do
# CONSEGUIR EL TAMAÑO EN BLOQUES
HD_BLOCKS=`fdisk -s $TEST`
# TESTEAR HD Y DAR MENSAJE DE RESULTADO Y TIEMPO EMPLEADO
echo * Testeando $TEST de $HD_BLOCKS bloques
time badblocks $MODE $TEST $HD_BLOCKS
if [ $? == 0 ]
then
echo -n CARGA:
cat /proc/loadavg # Mostrar carga del sistema
echo
echo --- testhd: OK ---
else
echo -n CARGA:
cat /proc/loadavg # Mostrar carga del sistema
echo
echo !!! testhd: *** ERROR ** !!!
fi
echo
done
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Re: Adjunto script de testeo de HD
Manel Marin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hola a todos, Buenas... Me acabo de cambiar el disco duro por uno de 20GB (je, je X-) Y como lo queria comprobar a fondo cada dia (hasta que se acabe la garantia :-) ya que ya me he pillado los dedos dos veces por no hacerlo, he mejorado un script que hace tiempo que hice y me ha quedado tan guai que os lo envio para que lo disfruteis (que de eso va el soft libre, ¿no?) Haciendo man badblocks he visto esto: BUGS I had no chance to make real tests of this program since I use IDE drives, which remap bad blocks. I only made some tests on floppies. Si el disco que quieres testear es IDE, ¿seguro que funciona bien el programa o se pueden colar errores al comprobar el disco duro? Si esto funciona bien con discos IDE, ¿vale con cualquier tipo de partición? Es que hace unas semanas me dio problemas un disco duro (que desaparecieron misteriosamente a los dos días) y me vendría muy bien revisarlo. Si este programa no vale, ¿que otros programas hay de este tipo? ¿alguien ha hecho algo parecido para testear la memoria? ¿Y la placa base? Para la memoria está el programa memtest86, en el paquete hwtools. Para la placa base, no sé. Si tienes algo scsi está el paquete scsitools. Hasta luego. -- David Muriel. Debian GNU/Linux woody + Emacs 20.5.2 + Gnus v5.8.3 Linux registered user #25632 (http://counter.li.org/) Emacs is a religion (take a look at alt.religion.emacs), it's not your typical software. You should study it like The Bible and one day you will believe in it. -- from a post in comp.emacs
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Lessen för förra mailet, inte meningen att det skulle skickas, fixade problemet innan jag hann sända iväg frågan. Nu har jag dock försökt fixa en annan sak t två dagar utan att lyckas. Jag har en tre-knappars mus som funkade under X3.3 med microsoft-protocol och chordmiddle. Nu funkar musen, men inte mittenknappen. I /etc/X/XF86Config: --- Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolMicrosoft Option Device /dev/ttyS0 Option ChordMiddle EndSection --- Jag kan därenot klistra in om jag trycker höger+vönster mus, som om raden: #Option Emulate3Buttons vore okommenterad. Jag har två grafikkort och två skärmar och skulle vilja använda båda i samma x-session, så att när musen förs till höger hoppar den över till den andra skärmen. Hur gör man lättast detta? Är x2x bra? cat $DISPLAY ger en tomrad, skall inte det ge :0.0 eller nåt liknande? Jag har precis börjat använda debian, så saker kanske inte funkar som jag är van från att ha haft en röd hatt. /Rustan On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Kent Nyberg wrote: On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Rustan Rosen wrote: Jag kör potato uppgraderad till woody, med helix-gnome och egeninstallerad XFree86-4.0.1 Men VAD är PROBLEMET? Annars är väll inte 4.0 så stabilt ännu?
Re: Fler problem med X
Följ den här tråden gpm and X problem investigated på debian-devel listan. Där får du svar på hur du ska lösa dina mus-problem ;-) /Cristian On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Rustan Rosen wrote: Lessen för förra mailet, inte meningen att det skulle skickas, fixade problemet innan jag hann sända iväg frågan. Nu har jag dock försökt fixa en annan sak t två dagar utan att lyckas. Jag har en tre-knappars mus som funkade under X3.3 med microsoft-protocol och chordmiddle. Nu funkar musen, men inte mittenknappen. I /etc/X/XF86Config: --- Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolMicrosoft Option Device /dev/ttyS0 Option ChordMiddle EndSection --- Jag kan därenot klistra in om jag trycker höger+vönster mus, som om raden: #Option Emulate3Buttons vore okommenterad. -- I respect faith, but doubt is what gets you an education. -- Wilson Mizner
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cosmo wrote: Estou tendo problemas com o XFree 3.3.6. Depois de configurar o XFree atraves do programa XF86Setup, que aparentemente deu tudo certo. Mas quando executo o comando startx o XFree eh carregado, mas antes de carregar o Window Manager ele, o XFree, cai e aparece as seguintes mensagens !! Você instalou o Debian 2.2 do zero ou fez upgrade? Se fez upgrade, o X antes funcionava normal? Você tinha instalado patches ou servers não fornecidos pela Debian? O X chega a iniciar? O link simbólico /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager é um link válido e está apontando para um gerenciador de janelas atualmente instalado? Qual o procedimento que você está usando para iniciar o X? startx ? Boot gráfico? Algum script feito por você? Quando você digita xinit (sem as aspas) e pressiona a tecla enter ele inicia o modo gráfico e abre um terminal? Cláudio
Re: Debian 2.2 e XFree 3.3.6
Estou tendo problemas com o XFree 3.3.6. Depois de configurar o XFree atraves do programa XF86Setup, que aparentemente deu tudo certo. Mas quando executo o comando startx o XFree eh carregado, mas antes de carregar o Window Manager ele, o XFree, cai e aparece as seguintes mensagens !! Pelo log não acho que você tem problemas com o X. Provavelmente há algum archivo tendando carregar um programa não existente. Tem algum xresources, xdefaults, xsession no diretório home? Usando os pacotes debian é difícil ter um window manager desconfigurado. Eu começaria com correr X diretamente. Deve funcionar ou dar uma mensagem significativa. No pior caso pode usar strace startx /tmp/x.log 21; post mortem você pode pesquisar em /tmp/x.log os nomes de arquivos abertos e a última coisa que foi feita antes de um segfault ou que houver. PD. Você usa letra cirílica? Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help shit .
Re: Debian 2.2 e XFree 3.3.6
Seu gerenciador de janelas pode não estar sendo iniciado corretamente. Se o arquivo que dispara o gerenciador é ~/.xsession, verifique se a linha exec /usr/X11R6/bin/windomanager não contém um no final. Christoph Simon wrote: Estou tendo problemas com o XFree 3.3.6. Depois de configurar o XFree atraves do programa XF86Setup, que aparentemente deu tudo certo. Mas quando executo o comando startx o XFree eh carregado, mas antes de carregar o Window Manager ele, o XFree, cai e aparece as seguintes mensagens !! Pelo log não acho que você tem problemas com o X. Provavelmente há algum archivo tendando carregar um programa não existente. Tem algum xresources, xdefaults, xsession no diretório home? Usando os pacotes debian é difícil ter um window manager desconfigurado. Eu começaria com correr X diretamente. Deve funcionar ou dar uma mensagem significativa. No pior caso pode usar strace startx /tmp/x.log 21; post mortem você pode pesquisar em /tmp/x.log os nomes de arquivos abertos e a última coisa que foi feita antes de um segfault ou que houver. PD. Você usa letra cirílica? Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help shit . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Gleyson Mazioli da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Problemas com CDR
Olá a todos! Talvez isto seja uma dúvida básica, mas estou enrolado, nao consigo resolver: Estou rodando a batata, kernel 2.2.17, configurado para emular scsi, para que eu possa gravar no meu CDR HP. Instalei o gcombust, que é front-end do cdrecord. Para gravar CDs não tive problema algum, está funcionando blz. O problema é que eu nao consigo montar o drive do CD, para acesso normal. Li a documentação do kernel e configurei conforme as instruções, habilitando scsi, scsi generico. Em /proc existem /proc/scsi/ide-scsi e /proc/scsi/sg; /proc/ide/ide0/hda (meu HD) e /proc/ide/ide1/hdc (meu drive CDR) Se eu tento: vinicius-3:/home/vinicius# mount -t iso9660 /dev/sg /cdrom mount: special device /dev/sg does not exist Ou: vinicius-3:/home/vinicius# mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /cdrom mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, or too many mounted file systems (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition, instead of some logical partition inside?) Alguem tem alguma ideia ? Que documentação posso consultar ? Se eu recompilar o kernel desabilitando a emulação scsi e retirando suporte scsi, consigo montar normalmente em /dev/hdc Tentei tambem com o kernel 2.4.0, sem sucesso Abraço a todos Vinicius
Re: Problemas com CDR
Oi Eduardo, Tentei, sim, tinha esquecido de comentar, eis o resultado: vinicius-3:/home/vinicius# mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom mount: /dev/scd0 has wrong major or minor number Tambem inseri no lilo.conf a opção append=hdc=scsi, como esta explicado na documentação do kernel 2.4.0, mas sem resultado Vinicius Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: Olá On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 11:42:35AM -0300, Vinicius De Mario wrote: Olá a todos! Estou rodando a batata, kernel 2.2.17, configurado para emular scsi, para que eu possa gravar no meu CDR HP. Você já se deu a dica: está emulando scsi. Instalei o gcombust, que é front-end do cdrecord. Para gravar CDs não tive problema algum, está funcionando blz. O problema é que eu nao consigo montar o drive do CD, para acesso normal. Já experimentou mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom ? Alguem tem alguma ideia ? Que documentação posso consultar ? Se eu recompilar o kernel desabilitando a emulação scsi e retirando suporte scsi, consigo montar normalmente em /dev/hdc Tentei tambem com o kernel 2.4.0, sem sucesso Viu? Tirando a emulação scsi você trata seu cd como ide, se você roda a emulação scsi tem que tratá-lo como scsi. mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom Abraço a todos Vinicius --macan
Acentuacao funcionando!!?!
Ola pessoALL! Nao tenho o habito de escrever para esta lista, mas seguidamente acompanho ela atraves dos archives. Estou escrevendo para relatar um fato curioso: Uso Debian desde a versao bo (1.3). Quando atualizei para a 2.0, a rotina para conseguir acentuar era resolver o console (com as fontes e os keymaps) e atualizar o Xmodmap e aplicar o patch do Thomas Quinot para acentuar no X-window. Depois, quando atualizei da 2.0 para a 2.1, a mesma coisa. Caso eu nao aplicasse o patch do Thomas Quinot para o libX11, o StarOffice nao acentuava corretamente (alias, existem muitas mensagens de brasileiros/portugueses/franceses na internet reclamando precisamente disso.) Recentemente atualizei (apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade) para o potato (Debian 2.2) e instalei o StarOffice 5.2 que consegui no CD da ultima Revista do Linux (em formato rpm, convertido para o .deb com o alien), quando atualizei o Xmodmap para o meu teclado (um US+ 101 teclas), testei o StarOffice sem utilizar a correcao do Thomas Quinot (no site dele nao tem os binarios para o X 3.3.6, que eh o do Debian 2.2, e eu estava com preguica de compilar a Xlib). SURPRESA!!! O StarOffice 5.2 acentuou direitinho (inclusive o til e o trema) Talvez alguem que acompanhe o Debian mais de perto possa me dizer se o Debian incorporou o patch do Quinot (como a Conectiva jah fez) ou eh o StarOffice que estah cuidando dos acentos. Bem, o fato eh que tudo funciona perfeitamente... []s, TheSpectra (AKA Pablo) - Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere!
Re: Acentuacao funcionando!!?!
On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: teclado (um US+ 101 teclas), testei o StarOffice sem utilizar a correcao do Thomas Quinot (no site dele nao tem os binarios para o X 3.3.6, que eh o do Debian 2.2, e eu estava com preguica de compilar a Xlib). SURPRESA!!! O StarOffice 5.2 acentuou direitinho (inclusive o til e o trema) Isso não é de espantar muito, já que o StarOffice é uma aplicação bem nova, e um processador de texto ainda por cima. Talvez alguem que acompanhe o Debian mais de perto possa me dizer se o Debian incorporou o patch do Quinot (como a Conectiva jah fez) ou eh o StarOffice que estah cuidando dos acentos. Que eu saiba, não. O patch é um hack 'indesejado' (mas perfeitamente funcional PARA O NOSSO CASO) que passa por cima do fato do defeito não estar no X, mas nas aplicações que não usam as interfaces de localização do XINPUT (eu acho que é XINPUT. Bom, algo parecido). Evidentemente o StarOffice usa as extensões do X direito. O rxvt também usa (essa email foi escrita num rxvt, usando um xmodmap decente), o xterm usa... mas tem um MONTE de apps que não usam, e como os americanos em geral não precisam disso, nunca se deram ao trabalho de revisar as apps :-) Bem, o fato eh que tudo funciona perfeitamente... Não cante vitória antes do tempo ;-) Tenta acentuar com o xfig (uma app das mais cretinas no que se toca a i18n) e você vai ver que nada feito. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh pgpMYXtXzHbvp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Acentuacao funcionando!!?!
Pois é, eu nao fiz nada no meu sistema, que tambem é o potato, e ainda por cima rodando o kernel 2.4.0, e o StarOffice 5.2 esta funcionando perfeitamente, com o cedilha e tudo que tem direito ! Tanto eh que me animei a utiliza-lo em substituicao ao Word, assim ja posso usar o linux em mais de 50% do tempo. Agora, aproveitando, precisamos pressionar a Sun, ou nos mexermos para conseguir uma versao com o portugues do Brasil, ou pelo menos o dicionario. Estou cansado de ter de incluir palavras que em Portugal tem grafia diferente, como o uso do c, em electrico, p. ex. Vinicius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ola pessoALL! Nao tenho o habito de escrever para esta lista, mas seguidamente acompanho ela atraves dos archives. Estou escrevendo para relatar um fato curioso: Uso Debian desde a versao bo (1.3). Quando atualizei para a 2.0, a rotina para conseguir acentuar era resolver o console (com as fontes e os keymaps) e atualizar o Xmodmap e aplicar o patch do Thomas Quinot para acentuar no X-window. Depois, quando atualizei da 2.0 para a 2.1, a mesma coisa. Caso eu nao aplicasse o patch do Thomas Quinot para o libX11, o StarOffice nao acentuava corretamente (alias, existem muitas mensagens de brasileiros/portugueses/franceses na internet reclamando precisamente disso.) Recentemente atualizei (apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade) para o potato (Debian 2.2) e instalei o StarOffice 5.2 que consegui no CD da ultima Revista do Linux (em formato rpm, convertido para o .deb com o alien), quando atualizei o Xmodmap para o meu teclado (um US+ 101 teclas), testei o StarOffice sem utilizar a correcao do Thomas Quinot (no site dele nao tem os binarios para o X 3.3.6, que eh o do Debian 2.2, e eu estava com preguica de compilar a Xlib). SURPRESA!!! O StarOffice 5.2 acentuou direitinho (inclusive o til e o trema) Talvez alguem que acompanhe o Debian mais de perto possa me dizer se o Debian incorporou o patch do Quinot (como a Conectiva jah fez) ou eh o StarOffice que estah cuidando dos acentos. Bem, o fato eh que tudo funciona perfeitamente... []s, TheSpectra (AKA Pablo) - Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acentuacao funcionando!!?!
Vinicius! Tem razao... o portugues de portugal eh diferente do nosso e quase todos os fabricantes de software jah perceberam isso. Um movimento de pressao viria de encontro ao interesse de todos! []s Spectra Pois é, eu nao fiz nada no meu sistema, que tambem é o potato, e ainda por cima rodando o kernel 2.4.0, e o StarOffice 5.2 esta funcionando perfeitamente, com o cedilha e tudo que tem direito ! Tanto eh que me animei a utiliza-lo em substituicao ao Word, assim ja posso usar o linux em mais de 50% do tempo. Agora, aproveitando, precisamos pressionar a Sun, ou nos mexermos para conseguir uma versao com o portugues do Brasil, ou pelo menos o dicionario. Estou cansado de ter de incluir palavras que em Portugal tem grafia diferente, como o uso do c, em electrico, p. ex. Vinicius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ola pessoALL! Nao tenho o habito de escrever para esta lista, mas seguidamente acompanho ela atraves dos archives. Estou escrevendo para relatar um fato curioso: Uso Debian desde a versao bo (1.3). Quando atualizei para a 2.0, a rotina para conseguir acentuar era resolver o console (com as fontes e os keymaps) e atualizar o Xmodmap e aplicar o patch do Thomas Quinot para acentuar no X-window. Depois, quando atualizei da 2.0 para a 2.1, a mesma coisa. Caso eu nao aplicasse o patch do Thomas Quinot para o libX11, o StarOffice nao acentuava corretamente (alias, existem muitas mensagens de brasileiros/portugueses/franceses na internet reclamando precisamente disso.) Recentemente atualizei (apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade) para o potato (Debian 2.2) e instalei o StarOffice 5.2 que consegui no CD da ultima Revista do Linux (em formato rpm, convertido para o .deb com o alien), quando atualizei o Xmodmap para o meu teclado (um US+ 101 teclas), testei o StarOffice sem utilizar a correcao do Thomas Quinot (no site dele nao tem os binarios para o X 3.3.6, que eh o do Debian 2.2, e eu estava com preguica de compilar a Xlib). SURPRESA!!! O StarOffice 5.2 acentuou direitinho (inclusive o til e o trema) Talvez alguem que acompanhe o Debian mais de perto possa me dizer se o Debian incorporou o patch do Quinot (como a Conectiva jah fez) ou eh o StarOffice que estah cuidando dos acentos. Bem, o fato eh que tudo funciona perfeitamente... []s, TheSpectra (AKA Pablo) - Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acentuacao funcionando!!?!
Eu acho que a idéia é ótima, mas o timing é péssimo. Agora que a sun anunciou que o Star Office 6.0 será GPL e parte do GNOME. www.openoffice.org --macan On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:50:07AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vinicius! Tem razao... o portugues de portugal eh diferente do nosso e quase todos os fabricantes de software jah perceberam isso. Um movimento de pressao viria de encontro ao interesse de todos! []s Spectra Pois é, eu nao fiz nada no meu sistema, que tambem é o potato, e ainda por cima rodando o kernel 2.4.0, e o StarOffice 5.2 esta funcionando perfeitamente, com o cedilha e tudo que tem direito ! Tanto eh que me animei a utiliza-lo em substituicao ao Word, assim ja posso usar o linux em mais de 50% do tempo. Agora, aproveitando, precisamos pressionar a Sun, ou nos mexermos para conseguir uma versao com o portugues do Brasil, ou pelo menos o dicionario. Estou cansado de ter de incluir palavras que em Portugal tem grafia diferente, como o uso do c, em electrico, p. ex. Vinicius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ola pessoALL! Nao tenho o habito de escrever para esta lista, mas seguidamente acompanho ela atraves dos archives. Estou escrevendo para relatar um fato curioso: Uso Debian desde a versao bo (1.3). Quando atualizei para a 2.0, a rotina para conseguir acentuar era resolver o console (com as fontes e os keymaps) e atualizar o Xmodmap e aplicar o patch do Thomas Quinot para acentuar no X-window. Depois, quando atualizei da 2.0 para a 2.1, a mesma coisa. Caso eu nao aplicasse o patch do Thomas Quinot para o libX11, o StarOffice nao acentuava corretamente (alias, existem muitas mensagens de brasileiros/portugueses/franceses na internet reclamando precisamente disso.) Recentemente atualizei (apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade) para o potato (Debian 2.2) e instalei o StarOffice 5.2 que consegui no CD da ultima Revista do Linux (em formato rpm, convertido para o .deb com o alien), quando atualizei o Xmodmap para o meu teclado (um US+ 101 teclas), testei o StarOffice sem utilizar a correcao do Thomas Quinot (no site dele nao tem os binarios para o X 3.3.6, que eh o do Debian 2.2, e eu estava com preguica de compilar a Xlib). SURPRESA!!! O StarOffice 5.2 acentuou direitinho (inclusive o til e o trema) Talvez alguem que acompanhe o Debian mais de perto possa me dizer se o Debian incorporou o patch do Quinot (como a Conectiva jah fez) ou eh o StarOffice que estah cuidando dos acentos. Bem, o fato eh que tudo funciona perfeitamente... []s, TheSpectra (AKA Pablo) - Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: logitech trackman marble+
X has built in support for it. here's my pointer section from XF86Config Section Pointer Protocol IMPS/2 Device /dev/psaux Buttons 5 ZaxisMapping 4 5 EndSection then use the program imwheel to scroll it maps the wheel for ya. been usin it on many machines for a year or 2 and it works great. (all logitech trackman marble wheel) nate Mark Simos wrote: anybody know where i can find a driver that will let me use my scroll wheel on my logitech track man marble+ in X? I am a newbie, so I might have missed something that is already there. Thanks! Mark -- Mark Anthony Simos, MCSE Poet, Playwright, Swing Dancer -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nfs and firewall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Carel Fellinger wrote: Hai, I'm trying to secure my system, I ran pmfirewall and some tests. It seems that rpc.mountd still listens on port 1024 even on the outgoing ethernet. I am trying hard to read up to this subject, but in the time being I would feel much better if I were able to shut off *all* services from this machine to the hostile internet. So if some kind soul could shed some light onto this, I would be much obliged:) My setup is a firewall and several local machines on a local net, the firewall doing masquerading and firewalling. For ease of upgrading I want the firewall to be able to mount a debian mirror on another local machine. In the end I also think of letting the firewall machine act as a local mail and news server (is that deemed secure?). You can find a lot of informations on how to set up Firewalls in the IPCHAINS-HOWTO. You can find that document under http://www.linuxdoc.org/. Using the firewall as a mail and news server is extremely dangerous. The best firewall would be a dedicated machine which ONLY acts as a firewall and does nothing more. I think any company that's a little bit nervous about security should afford that. It seems to me that you are very new to IP security. I'd strongly advise you to buy external support or read lots of related books, e. g. Building Internet Firewalls 2nd Edition by O'Reilly to gain the basic skills. Otherwise it's very likely that you'll get cracked. ;-) Another solution would be to buy a preconfigured firewall like those Nokia and Cisco PIX routers. It's easier to set these up if you don't know what you're really doing. But basic knowledge about TCP/IP networking and security is a must, even with those easy to use products. Just my $0.02 Sebastian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: 0A17B8EC icq: 86831140 Key fingerprint = C693 9161 F596 6333 C22D 1BCC F385 A303 0A17 B8EC -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE5sc0K84WjAwoXuOwRAhm6AKDBPXHoGnU3vUjBc3QoW8MBCS1+twCgvK4z g783LbGtdjrUKRZjgMnF7ic= =Jo4j -END PGP SIGNATURE-
NFS stability and file ownership problem.
Hello, I've been trying to find the answer to my server's NFS problems for about a month now but the searching I have done on email list archives and HOWTOs so far hasn't helped. I don't think the two problems are related except that they both deal with NFS. SITUATION: I run a variety of debian 2.1 and debian 2.2 servers on my network: file-server-one debian 2.1 kernel 2.2.14 rpc.nfsd 2.2beta37 automount ver 3.1.1 file-server-two debian 2.1 kernel 2.2.14 rpc.nfsd 2.2beta37 automount ver 3.1.1 file-server-three debian 2.1 kernel 2.2.14 rpc.nfsd 2.2beta37 automount ver 3.1.1 cpu-server-one debian 2.2 kernel 2.2.15pre20 rpc.nfsd 2.2beta47 automount ver 3.1.4 cpu-server-two debian 2.2 kernel 2.2.15pre20 rpc.nfsd 2.2beta47 automount ver 3.1.4 cpu-server-threedebian 2.2 kernel 2.2.15pre20 rpc.nfsd 2.2beta47 automount ver 3.1.4 cpu-server-four debian 2.2 kernel 2.2.15pre20 rpc.nfsd 2.2beta47 automount ver 3.1.4 As you can see the newer servers are used for running cpu intensive jobs, and they use their local hard drives for storage of local intermediate data created during such batch jobs that is also used by the other cpu-server's. The original data set that such batch jobs use as input is stored on file-server-three. file-server's one and two are used for the user's individual home directories. All machines use NFS to export their data directories and mounts that point to file-server-one and file-server-two are automounted (via the autofs package) under /h, whilst the other machine's expored filesystems would be mounted under /d (eg /d/cpu-server-one-data1). All of this mount information is distributed via NIS, as well as user/group info. PROBLEM ONE - NFS STABILITY PROBLEM: Occasionally my users who are running these batch jobs on cpu-server's will find that their job grinds to a halt because file-server-three stops responding too all of the machines. For example, if file-server-three had stopped responding, then if I ran ls -l /d/file-server-three-data1 from the shell, it would hang indefinitely. To get it going again, I would run /etc/init.d/nfs-server restart as root on file-server-three, and then their batch jobs would continue on their merry way as that mount point would then start responding again. I've included info about file-server's one and two because as a comparison, these servers make available the user's home directories (eg file-server-one:/home/scottb would be mounted under /h/scottb on all of the linux servers on the network). There doesn't seem to be any stability problem with these servers at all, and they would make their data directories available to many more clients running either linux as a server or workstation, or via samba to win32 clients. Additionally, the cpu-server's exported file systems dont' suffer the same stability problems either - they share their intermediate results of the batch jobs eg /d/cpu-server-data1 (cpu-server-one:/data1) is available on the other cpu-servers. On the problematic file-server-three machine, I've tried to upgrade the nfs-server deb package but found I would also need to upgrade libraries on the server so have been reluctant to do so. Currently I have lowered the rsize and wsize variables that mount uses to mount the drive on other machines (from 8192 to 4096) and although the number of incidents that the drive stops responding has fallen a little, the problem has not gone away. PROBLEM TWO - FILE OWNERSHIP FOR NFS MOUNTED FILE SHARES This problem only affects the four cpu-servers. On each of these machines, I have an /etc/exports machine that looks like: /data1 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0(rw,root_squash,map_nis=syrinx) and is identical on each machine (since the servers are essentially identical except for the serial numbers on the servers themselves :-) However, when I mount one of the cpu-server-xxx:/data1 filesystems on another machine, (eg file-server-one or even another cpu-server-yyy machine), absolutely all of the files belong to nobody, nogroup even though if you look at the files on the local machine they belong to proper users of the network (eg scottb, users). Additionally, on the file-server-zzz machines, their /etc/exports file uses exactly the same options (rw,root_squash,map_nis=syrinx) and when their mount points are mounted on other linux servers/workstations, the files contained on them show the right ownership. So, although I can share the files stored on cpu-server's machines, it can only ever be read-only at the moment because the system accessing the file over nfs thinks it is owned by nobody, when that is not correct. I'm hoping that my problem is not isolated and that someone out there has had problems similar to mine and has successfully dealt with it. Any solutions, or even ideas would be helpful. Apart from these two small issues, I have a great network and file sharing system that needs little maintenance and keeps going for long periods
Re: keyboardless operation
Cheaper to buy an el-cheapo keyboard and disable it internally, than trying to develop a null keyboard adapter.. Yes it is and AT keyboard, and there is no problem with BIOS as far as I understand, because it starts to load the kernel. If a keyboard must be present, does any one know who to make a plug to make the computer think that there is a keyboard attached?
stupid question
and yes, there are stupid questions, but there are those of use who prefer to ask than to remain in a stupid state for a more prolonged period :) How do you unload X from memory long enough to edit the XF86Config file manually so that I can change the resolution. It says in vi that it is read-only when I am root (I expect that is because X is running and using it...) I have done the ctrl-alt-backspace thing, but it keeps rerunning it immediately. any help is appreciated. Thanks! Mark -- Mark Anthony Simos, MCSE Poet, Playwright, Swing Dancer
Re: I hosed my network
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 10:57:06PM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: From your opening line I assume this was working in the past. If so what has changed? First, thanks for the reply. The only changes were the recent updates in potato wrt to Netscape and libc. However, before I was working on my ipchains rule sets. At times the link would fail, which I ascribed to some bad rules. So... it was flaky starting last week. Not sure if it matters but the ipchains -L command would get stuck at times. From the error messages, it at first glance seems that my routing is messed up. The routing tables *seem* OK, but of course I could be overlooking something, which is what I wanted to have double checked. If the routing is OK, then yes, the cable could be bad or even one of the cards, I suppose. If this has never worked, are you using a crossover cable? The real bummer is I have had a working LAN for a year until now. In either case are there link lights on your ethernet cards and are they lit? maybe we wire went bad. Well the link light is on, but the ACK and COL lights are not on . The ACK light may indicate something, but I'd reckon the COL light means collision which I supoose should not be on. good luck, Thanks, apparently I need it. (: -- Cliff
Re: stupid question
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 12:42:08AM -0400, Mark Simos wrote: and yes, there are stupid questions, but there are those of use who prefer to ask than to remain in a stupid state for a more prolonged period :) I'm with you. I try to ask at least one 'big dummy' question per month. Some would aver I exceed that number on a regular basis. How do you unload X from memory long enough to edit the XF86Config file manually so that I can change the resolution. It says in vi that it is read-only when I am root (I expect that is because X is running and using it...) It sounds like: a) the permissions on XF86Config are not correct. Check it out. b) you are running xdm or gdm or kdm or some other horrible variant of that horrible program. Yes? In which case the only advice I have is to get rid of it and return to a sane existence. dpkg -r xdm -- Bob BernsteinSufficiently advanced file sharing systems atshould be indistinguishable from corporate Esmond, R.I., USA VPNs. Bless VPNs for creating all that suspicious-looking encrypted traffic. D.Marti
Re: stupid question
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 12:42:08AM -0400, Mark Simos wrote: and yes, there are stupid questions, but there are those of use who prefer to ask than to remain in a stupid state for a more prolonged period :) How do you unload X from memory long enough to edit the XF86Config file manually so that I can change the resolution. It says in vi that it is read-only when I am root (I expect that is because X is running and using it...) Edit at will. You can even edit it while in an X session. It's only read when X starts up. If the file, for some odd reason, is -r--r--r--, then you can chmod 644 /etc/X11/XF86Config. vi might let you override this with :w!, but maybe not. I have done the ctrl-alt-backspace thing, but it keeps rerunning it immediately. 1. Log out of your X session (you apparently have xdm or something running). 2. Switch to a virtual terminal Ctrl-Alt-F[1..6] . 3. Log in as root 4. Run '/etc/init.d/xdm restart' (If your using gdm or wdm change the name accordingly). If you've messed with font servers or X's configuration to them, you might need to restart them. Same thing for them (as with most daemons). $ /etc/init.d/xfs restart You always have to have root priveledges to do these. Note: if updating your font servers, I suggest stopping your display manager $ /etc/init.d/xdm stop and then restarting the font servers, then restart xdm | gdm | other. The display manager may get angry and crash if you restart a font server while it's running ;-] -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found
Re: stupid question
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 12:59:59AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: b) you are running xdm or gdm or kdm or some other horrible variant of that horrible program. Yes? In which case the only advice I have is to get rid of it and return to a sane existence. dpkg -r xdm Can you enlighten us on why you have such strong feelings about display managers? Some people really seem to dislike them and I can't see why. Useless eye candy? Wasteful of resources when unused? Potential security hole? -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found
Re: stupid question
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 10:01:34PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote: Can you enlighten us on why you have such strong feelings about display managers? I quit smoking a few weeks ago. So I am coming across much more vituperative than I am when at my best. An excuse, I know, it's the best I can do. Ask my wife what it's been like... Some people really seem to dislike them and I can't see why. Useless eye candy? Wasteful of resources when unused? Potential security hole? I avoid them because of precisely the sort of problem our interlocutor is having. There are many tasks I prefer to do in the console, but I do as a rule live in X. So the compromise for me is to go back and forth quickly and easily, which means deepsix-ing xdm and its cousins. Hopefully I'll calm down in a few years. -- Bob BernsteinSufficiently advanced file sharing systems atshould be indistinguishable from corporate Esmond, R.I., USA VPNs. Bless VPNs for creating all that suspicious-looking encrypted traffic. D.Marti
[Fwd: stupid question]
---BeginMessage--- When you've removed it, you simply type startx. It's just another widget to make linux more like windows... hence the disgust. I am still reeling from all the individual processes in Linux and the large quantity of bootstraping scripts. I don't want any clearly unnecessary processes or scripts running, or ran at boot. Why? 'cause I still don't understand this thing... but I know I don't need xdm. Disclaimer: 4 drinks consumed before this post may have affect my logic mike Eric G . Miller wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 12:59:59AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: b) you are running xdm or gdm or kdm or some other horrible variant of that horrible program. Yes? In which case the only advice I have is to get rid of it and return to a sane existence. dpkg -r xdm Can you enlighten us on why you have such strong feelings about display managers? Some people really seem to dislike them and I can't see why. Useless eye candy? Wasteful of resources when unused? Potential security hole? -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ---End Message---
Re: Help with Installation...
Following your advice, I linked /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux. Now X starts up !! However, I have a new obstacle to clear... X starts as expected via startx, but the mouse will NOT respond. I have run xf86config several times, each time choosing a different mouse (to see if I get lucky with others), but no good. Here's a clue: the last error message from the X server says: Warning: /dev/psaux unable to get status of mouse fd (Inappropriate ioctl for device) Any ideas on how to resolve this one?!? Thanks again. -- Daly -Original Message- From: Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, September 02, 2000 4:28 PM Subject: Re: Help with Installation... On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 04:05:48PM -0700, Gutierrez Family wrote: Thank you for responding !! Quick answers and a few more questions... 1) I installed Debian 2.2 off a 3-CD set. I booted the CD directly after power up. It is supposed to be the official CD set, which I bought from Discount Linux CDs (it's mentioned on the Debian.org website). And to answer your other question, the installation DID ask me to change CDs two separate times. One (I believe) was just to see which packages were on all three CDs, the second time was when it was actually installing the necessary files on my hard drive (here it asked me for CDs #1 and #2, it never asked me for #3). I think #3 is packages in source form. I dunno for sure. 2) I could swear that I went through the X configuration during the install. I remember answering questions about the mouse, sync ranges, resolutions, color, etc. I will take your advice and reconfigure X using xf86setup, I have all the data I need. I'll let you know the results... Sounds like you did then. Did you say yes when xf86config prompted you to save the configuration file? Maybe you didn't get something right? X is a real pain in the expletive to install/configure. It's getting better with 4.0 (but that's not widely supported yet). 3) You mention running dselect to fix the broken packages... I'm new to Debian and the entire concept of dpkg/dselect/apg-get, etc. I have only a general understanding. My first question would be, how do I know which packages were the broken ones??? I tried keeping a log of those messages, but soon realized that the scrolling was faster than I could write. dpkg -- The general package management tool (all others use it) apt -- Advanced Package Tool (makes a nice front-end to dpkg, especially when updating packages for security fixes, for instance) dselect -- The older package management interface (can use apt or dpkg). It's still pretty useful for scrolling through packages and descriptions you might want to install. To find out the packages that are slated for installation, but aren't all the way properly installed, you can try this little one-liner. $ dpkg -l \* | grep '^i[^i]' ^ ^ | \_ [not] Installed [state] \_ Install [desired state] Sorry that's a bit obtuse, but it should work. -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com
security
It concerns me when my machine grinds when I don't know why it's grinding. I run top and it says find is running. Why? I do a grep -r find /etc/cr* and the only things that come up run per crontab. Crontab shows that all cron routines run around sunup... it's now 1:42 and my linux box with a 24hr old install of debian was grinding at 1:10. Running ls -l /bin | grep rws I get: -rws... root root for login mount ping ping6 su umount Are all of these programs normally setoid? mike
Re: Help with Installation...
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 11:32:49PM -0700, Gutierrez Family wrote: Following your advice, I linked /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux. Now X starts up !! However, I have a new obstacle to clear... X starts as expected via startx, but the mouse will NOT respond. I have run xf86config several times, each time choosing a different mouse (to see if I get lucky with others), but no good. Here's a clue: the last error message from the X server says: Warning: /dev/psaux unable to get status of mouse fd (Inappropriate ioctl for device) Any ideas on how to resolve this one?!? Thanks again. Well, you reported that the kernel reported that it detected a PS/2 mouse at boot. If this is correct, then your mouse is a PS/2 (small round plug vs. old serial port mouse or USB??). Anyway, so /dev/psaux should be correct. At least two things come to mind why it won't work. 1. If you have gpm running, is sometimes can interfere with X using the mouse. This sounds like it might be the case. First, try killing gpm by running '/etc/init.d/gpm stop' (as root, of course). Then try again. If that's the problem, then we can worry about having the two get along. 2. You have not selected the correct mouse protocol. Sometimes PS/2 mice require a different X mouse driver than PS/2. This'd be the Protocol part for the mouse in /etc/X11/XF86Config. Some possibilities include trying Microsoft, IntelliMouse, MouseMan. I suspect gpm, though. If you don't have a PS/2 mouse then... -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found
RE: keyboardless operation
correct. DIN style keyboards can be disabled in the BIOS, or else you can just unplug them after the keyboard test (this might work with ps/2 keyboards also). You just need it plugged in until the OS starts loading after the POST. After that, pull the plug (or cut the wire if you are hopeless with finding the correct one ;) ). Jeroen T Wenting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN #9191966 It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (Michael Stipe) -Original Message- From: Philip C Mendelsohn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2000 05:00 To: Debian User Subject: Re: keyboardless operation Is this an AT style keyboard? I found that some if not all older AT keyboards need to be present for the system to complete the BIOS boot seq. Hope that helps. Phil Mendelsohn On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Lazar Fleysher wrote: It stops after Console: colour VGA+ 80x25... basically the first boot message.. On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Nate Amsden wrote: where does the system stop booting ? i have many machines without a keyboard running they run fine. i read that linux 2.4 is including new code to enable systems withouyt keyboards to boot..probably a kernel workaround for what the bios should handle on it's own(and does handle on the vast majority of boards made in the past 5 years) nate Lazar Fleysher wrote: HI I would like to operate a machine without a keyboard (in server mode) The keyboard is disabled in bios, but the system does not boot without it. Should I compile the kernel in a special way? -- Lottery:a tax on people who are bad at math -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: security
the program that is running is the updatedb program it updates the locate database. can take quite a while on slower systems(30+minutes sometimes) usually runs around 6am. what it does is finds every file on the system and puts it in an easy to use database see the man page for locate. it also may run if your system clock was way off and you just updated it, cron may think its been too long since it ran so it runs it. ive seen times when if the clock was off by several months and then updated cron can go nuts and launch everything driving the load to 8 or higher :) it is normal though. im not sure if the locate database is critical or not i just let it run on my systems. i suspect it is not vital to system operation. nate Mike McNally wrote: It concerns me when my machine grinds when I don't know why it's grinding. I run top and it says find is running. Why? I do a grep -r find /etc/cr* and the only things that come up run per crontab. Crontab shows that all cron routines run around sunup... it's now 1:42 and my linux box with a 24hr old install of debian was grinding at 1:10. Running ls -l /bin | grep rws I get: -rws... root root for login mount ping ping6 su umount Are all of these programs normally setoid? mike -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: security
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 01:46:51AM -0500, Mike McNally wrote: It concerns me when my machine grinds when I don't know why it's grinding. I run top and it says find is running. Why? I do a grep -r find /etc/cr* and the only things that come up run per crontab. Crontab shows that all cron routines run around sunup... it's now 1:42 and my linux box with a 24hr old install of debian was grinding at 1:10. is your clock correct? or perhaps you have anacron installed which runs cron jobs approximatly whenever it feels like it. the find process is normal, i think its the locate database being rebuilt. all my debian boxes do the same thing (except at 6:25, i don't use anacron) Running ls -l /bin | grep rws I get: -rws... root root for login mount ping ping6 su umount Are all of these programs normally setoid? yes these are normal, ping and ping6 (the ipv6 varient i guess) need to be suid root in order to open a raw socket. login needs to be suid root if you want to be able to do things like exec login to login as a new user without logging out first (rather pointless IMO and it only works on console ttys) mount and umount only need to be suid root if you have `user' /etc/fstab entries, such as /cdrom or /floppy, this way ordinary users can mount and umount the CDROM or floppy. su has to be suid root in order to work at all (changing uid's requires root privilege). -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpelpk2NFQZQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
486DX Install
I have an old AST 486DX (23Meg RAM/170MegHD) that I have been using as a router for a few months. I installed 2.2 back when it was frozen, or maybe even a month or so before. I had no problems with it, until I compiled a new kernel for it, and for some reason the map file was screwed up, so I decided the quickest thing to do was reinstall. But now I can't get the eepro module to recognize the IntelEtherExpress NIC. Previously it worked fine. I tried some old 2.1 base floppies, and it worked fine, so it can't be the hardware itself. I pass no arguments to the driver, never have. One problem I can see is that just after I boot and read in the RAMdisk it flashes a dozen lines with : /lib/modules/2.2.17/modules.depmodprobe no such directory or file There is nothing in /var/log/messages. And I have rewritten the floppies, and used new ones, and I downloaded images from ftp.debian.org and tried them too (I had used ftp.ca.debian.org on the first try). What does that missing file do? After booting and just starting dbootstrap, should there be anything else in /lib/modules/2.2.17? (on the RAM disk, not in /target/. ) The funny thing is the 3com509 NIC works fine under 2.1 and 2.2. Its just that 2.2 wont see the Intel Nic, but 2.1 sees it fine. I checked the compac and ide-pci boot disks, but I don't think they would be very useful on this box, but maybe I could try them anyway. Thanks Gregg _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: wmaker menu problem
Le 2000-09-01 23:45:30 -0500, Lance Hoffmeyer écrivait : I am using potato and windowmaker. I have run into a problem recently where my menu has disappeared. When one right-clicks on the mouse I should have a dialog box appear but nothing happens. Anyone have a clue what I can try to fix the menu? This happens as root or as a user. It has disappeared globally. You might want to check that /etc/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu is a text file containing : menu.hook Hope it helps. -- Jean-Philippe Guérard
md5sum from sources -linux-.
Can some one indicate how to build and install the md5sum from sources? It seems not to be available as a deb package, and I have failed miserably at doing it, after downloading from ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/crypt/hash/mds/md5/ It gives me some crap after I run gcc md5c.c Why don't we have it as a deb file? Please help.
Re: md5sum from sources -linux-.
On Sun, 03 Sep 2000 06:01:14 -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: Why don't we have it as a deb file? $ dpkg -S md5sum dpkg: /usr/bin/md5sum dpkg: /usr/share/man/ja/man1/md5sum.1.gz dpkg: /usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.1.gz So we DO have it as a deb file, it should already be present on your system since it's marked required?! Maybe you accidentially removed it, so try re- installing it... -- Sign the EU petition against SPAM: L I N U X .~. http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/The Choice /V\ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Re: I hosed my network
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 11:39:22PM -0500, Cliff Rice wrote: :First, thanks for the reply. The only changes were the recent updates :in potato wrt to Netscape and libc. However, before I was working on :my ipchains rule sets. At times the link would fail, which I ascribed :to some bad rules. So... it was flaky starting last week. Not :sure if it matters but the ipchains -L command would get stuck at :times. From the error messages, it at first glance seems that my :routing is messed up. The routing tables *seem* OK, but of course :I could be overlooking something, which is what I wanted to have :double checked. If the routing is OK, then yes, the cable could be :bad or even one of the cards, I suppose. Try removing ipchains from the equation, (ipchains -F will do it) this will make it clear if the rules are at fault. : In either case are there link lights on your ethernet cards and are : they lit? maybe we wire went bad. : :Well the link light is on, but the ACK and COL lights are not on . :The ACK light may indicate something, but I'd reckon the COL light :means collision which I supoose should not be on. The link light is a good indication that the cable not bad (don't know if it's 100%, but close) ACK is probably the activity indicator, unfortunate but not surprising that you don't see any. The routing is fine, the entry for 127.0.0.0 on thor's lo is odd, maybe a woody thing, but shouldn't get you any trouble, you need to add leif (is that the other machine's name) as a gateway if you want it to do ip masq, but that's only one the net is back up... Hope it's your ipchains, Jon
Re: md5sum from sources -linux-.
After your previous message I did dpkg -S and I got the same as you said. Then I realized that for some reason /usr/bin was not in the path for root (who I was to use cdrecord). It was the cause for not getting anything. Now, compare [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -s md5sum Package `md5sum' is not installed and no info is available. Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files, and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ with [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -S md5sum debhelper: /usr/bin/dh_md5sums dpkg: /usr/bin/md5sum dpkg: /usr/share/man/ja/man1/md5sum.1.gz debhelper: /usr/share/man/man1/dh_md5sums.1.gz dpkg: /usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.1.gz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I really did not realize the difference: form s to S. Anyway, thanks a lot for the pointers, because i really had some missing. Thanks again. Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote: Antonio, On Sun, 03 Sep 2000 06:29:53 -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: Would you indicate what line includes the pointer to it? I can get it from my official cds therefore, but I would like to know what I have misssing in my sources.list, so if you can provide an example of yours I will appreciate it. sure, I can provide you w/ a copy of mine: deb http://FTP.Uni-Erlangen.DE/pub/Linux/DEBIAN stable main contrib non-free deb http://FTP.Uni-Erlangen.DE/pub/Linux/DEBIAN stable/non-US contrib main non-free deb http://FTP.Uni-Erlangen.DE/pub/Linux/DEBIAN dists/proposed-updates/ deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates contrib main non-free I hope this is helpful, Ralf -- Sign the EU petition against SPAM: L I N U X .~. http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/The Choice /V\ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Re: I hosed my network
in last message s/leif/loki/; that must be your problem, naming one of your machines after a trixter god, rename to odin or hiemdal and try again :) -jon
Re: logitech trackman marble+
Nate Amsden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: X has built in support for it. here's my pointer section from XF86Config Section Pointer Protocol IMPS/2 Device /dev/psaux Buttons 5 ZaxisMapping 4 5 EndSection then use the program imwheel to scroll it maps the wheel for ya. been usin it on many machines for a year or 2 and it works great. (all logitech trackman marble wheel) I tried this with my Logitech Trackman Marble mouse and it didn't work. All that happened wa that my mouse pointer stuck at the top right of the X display and didn't do anything. I downloaded the imwhhel app using apt-get. You say 'use the imwheel program to scroll' - I am not sure what to do with inwheel - I read the DEBIAN readme which came with it and put the relevant files etc. into /etc/X11/imwheel and /etc/X11/Xsession. Tried to run 'imwheel' in X but without the mose couldn't open an xterm to type it in! Is there something I am not doing? Is IMPS/2 available in X or do I need to compile it in/fetch it from somewhere? Cheers. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux
SysVinit problem?
Just installed Potato onto my work laptop and it's mostly working great but there's one odd thing which, since I've never used Debian before, I'm not sure is an error or a feature. All the user runlevel directories, /etc/rc1.d/ through to /etc/rc5.d/, have exactly the same contents and they're all start scripts, no kill scripts. If I telinit from (for example) runlevel 2 to 4, nothing happens except for the sending a term/kill signal to all processes message. The console I type it at stays the same but all the other ttys freeze until I telinit back to the original runlevel. This seems odd behaviour and it feels as if something didn't configure properly during installation. -- Bruce If the universe were simple enough to be understood, we would be too simple to understand it.
A tcl question.
* The problem:
I want an existent tcl/tk program to get a default value for the MANPATH
environment variable when it is called even when the environment does not
define it, and without changing the env. Further more, I rather prefix the
program code then write a wrapper script.
* My suggestion:
To prefix the existent program with the lines:
if {![info exists env(MANPATH)] || [string equal [string trim $env(MANPATH)]
]} {
set env(MANPATH) [ exec /usr/bin/manpath ];}
* The question:
Is this a reasonable || good || bad solution?
* Reason for asking:
I am new to tcl.
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Re: SysVinit problem?
On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, Bruce Richardson wrote: All the user runlevel directories, /etc/rc1.d/ through to /etc/rc5.d/, have exactly the same contents and they're all start scripts, no kill scripts. If I telinit from (for example) runlevel 2 to 4, nothing happens except for the sending a term/kill signal to all processes message. The console I type it at stays the same but all the other ttys freeze until I telinit back to the original runlevel. This is ok, Debian doesn't use runlevels 3-5 for anything by default AFAIK, and they're mostly equal to runlevel 2 (I think /etc/inittab has some stuff which is different, simply to show it can do that). BTW, there's an utterly braindamaged behaviour in many (most?) daemon packages during upgrade: They will start their daemons regardless of the current runlevel, so keep this in mind during upgrades if you hand-trimmed your runlevels to actually mean something. Proposing a fix to this is in my TODO list. The code is rather easy, really, but requires a policy change as almost all packages who have something in /etc/init.d will have to be fixed. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh pgpBaBhEhwKdm.pgp Description: PGP signature
short-key in /etc/inittab
Hello
I have happily been using the Alt-Up key-combination, which can be
configured in /etc/inittab:
-- /etc/inittab snippet --
# Action on special keypress (ALT-UpArrow).
#kb::kbrequest:/bin/echo Keyboard Request--edit /etc/inittab to let this work.
kb::kbrequest:/usr/sbin/pppd call bw ipparam mail
-- /etc/inittab snippet --
Now, is there any way for utilizing more of those? Like
Alt-{Down,Left,Right,Whatever} or some other key-combination?
Cheers
Sven
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magicfilter vs. apsfilter
I have installed lprng and now want to add an imputfilter. I have used magicfilter in the past, but now apsfilter seems to be a popular choise. I would like to know which is my best option. My requirements seem simple, I have a laptop running Potato and Helix Gnome. I need to print to the lpd system on my server and the occasional stand alone printer when traveling. This means that I would like to be able to change printer definitions quite easily. Thanks a lot. -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
crontab control?
Hello; What controls when '/etc/cron.daily/*' gets run? I thought it was '/etc/crontab' but for some reason it doesn't run at the times I specified. TIA, Ron -- Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: http://www.farrer.net/~rbf/ ICQ: pulsar 26276320 Debian GNU/HURD on Alpha: http://hurd-alpha.sourceforge.net/ pgpGijVeeiYjF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ssh from nt?
I'm gonna toss in my two cents since I use this from work:) I use a progrm called 'PenguiNet', you can grab it from Downloads.com. It's not exactly free, thefree version has little ads at the top, but you ignore them after a while, but the registration is something like only 20 bucks. Anyhow, features I like: it can simulate linux consoles (I can get linuxconf to appear very nicely and other things with graphics in teh consoles), supports the new SSH, and it'll let you open up multiple windows inside the program (Ie, you wont have three seperate applications for each window), very nice at my work place. --- William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, At work we run NT but I like to access my home pc. We use a package called KEA as our main telnet/term package. Does anyone have any experience getting KEA to use any sort of ssh? Alternatively, does anyone know of a windows terminal package that is completely freeware that can use ssh? I would really like to shut down my open telnet port and use ssh if I can. Bill -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null = God, Root. What is the difference? Pitr, User Friendly __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: crontab control?
anacron see man anacron and /etc/anacrontab mike Ron Farrer wrote: Hello; What controls when '/etc/cron.daily/*' gets run? I thought it was '/etc/crontab' but for some reason it doesn't run at the times I specified.
Re: 486DX Install
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 05:18, Gregg C wrote: I have an old AST 486DX (23Meg RAM/170MegHD) that I have been using as a router for a few months. I installed 2.2 back when it was frozen, or maybe even a month or so before. I had no problems with it, until I compiled a new kernel for it, and for some reason the map file was screwed up, so I decided the quickest thing to do was reinstall. But now I can't get the eepro module to recognize the IntelEtherExpress NIC. Previously it worked fine. I tried some old 2.1 base floppies, and it worked fine, so it can't be the hardware itself. I pass no arguments to the driver, never have. This may be a problem with the kernel on the boot floppies you're using. There are several sets of boot floppies with different configurations. Try another one. IIRC either compact or idepci solved a similar problem for me. Luck, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Re: SysVinit problem?
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:12:33AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: This is ok, Debian doesn't use runlevels 3-5 for anything by default AFAIK, and they're mostly equal to runlevel 2 (I think /etc/inittab has some stuff which is different, simply to show it can do that). I thought that might be the case but I'm still concerned about the freezing ttys. I can't believe that it's intended behaviour. BTW, there's an utterly braindamaged behaviour in many (most?) daemon packages during upgrade: They will start their daemons regardless of the current runlevel, so keep this in mind during upgrades if you hand-trimmed your runlevels to actually mean something. Hmmm. A newly installed package won't know which levels you want it running in but one being upgrade ought to be able to check. Proposing a fix to this is in my TODO list. The code is rather easy, really, but requires a policy change as almost all packages who have something in /etc/init.d will have to be fixed. I'm new to Debian and only just finished reading the policy docs atc. I suppose some extended version of update-rc.d is the thing for that. -- Bruce The good news is that in 1995 we will have a good operating system and programming language; the bad news is that they will be Unix and C++. -- Richard P. Gabriel
Re: crontab control?
Mike McNally ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: anacron see man anacron and /etc/anacrontab Ahh thanks! Another question for the list: can I safely remove anacron? I really dislike the time it runs at and the system is up 24 x 7 so cron can do it's job correctly. TIA, Ron -- Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: http://www.farrer.net/~rbf/ ICQ: pulsar 26276320 Debian Organization: http://www.debian.org pgpQUoz3vCoND.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Please remove me from the subscription list......
At 17.02 2/9/00 -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans ha escrit: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Tell me, which of these sets of instructions is more clear? Which is more helpful to a newbie with limited Unix/Linux experience who's probably never used shell redirection in his/her life? The first one. I'd bet that the user that asks for unsubscribing to other users, does not have arrived to configure the email under Debian. But the second one is instructive and cool-debianist. Ignasi ---\ From Barcelona... \ \\___ / / ___\_'_\ Still nationalizing the LAN! /\¬___/ --/ _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Help with Installation...
At 23.32 2/9/00 -0700, Gutierrez Family ha escrit: Following your advice, I linked /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux. Now X starts up !! However, I have a new obstacle to clear... X starts as expected via startx, but the mouse will NOT respond. I have run xf86config several times, each time choosing a different mouse (to see if I get lucky with others), but no good. Here's a clue: the last error message from the X server says: Warning: /dev/psaux unable to get status of mouse fd (Inappropriate ioctl for device) Any ideas on how to resolve this one?!? A nice way is to run again XF86Setup and trying mouse configurations and applying them, until every part of the mouse works. If you've spent lots of time setting the XF86Config file, make a copy of it, accept the changes done by XF86Setup when you've found your configuration. Exit and edit by hand your original XF86Config, copying just the mouse parameters of the file that your most recent XF86Setup has created. Return the old XF86Config to its place and the mouse will run under X. hth, Ignasi ---\ From Barcelona... \ \\___ / / ___\_'_\ Still nationalizing the LAN! /\¬___/ --/ _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
networking problem
New install of deb2.2.17. Freshly compiled kernel. 2boxes: deb fwall samba server; w98 box ppp0 to dialup; eth0 between boxes (w/hub) running ppp0 then pmfirewall start masqstart the route lines for ppp0 are automatically run (what script does this?) but... the eth0 route is not added (should have been added at boot) question: what script was it that used to automatically add the eth0 route line in my last install of the same ver linux? Should I fix up the scripts or add the route lines to /etc/network/interfaces? Is it a problem that I don't have a file named /etc/networks... (I remember one from my last install containing a line like: localdomain ip)? ifconfig -a -- dummy Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 BROADCAST NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:CC:29:7D:08 inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:11 Base address:0x6000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:37 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:37 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:209.252.177.100 P-t-P:209.254.124.213 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:145 errors:2 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:2 TX packets:153 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 route -n -- Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 209.254.124.213 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 0.0.0.0 209.254.124.213 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0 interfaces -- # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255
Re: SysVinit problem?
On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, Bruce Richardson wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:12:33AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: I thought that might be the case but I'm still concerned about the freezing ttys. I can't believe that it's intended behaviour. It is not, but it may be either something weird in /etc/inittab (I seem to recall some ttys aren't restarted in all runlevels by default. They WILL freeze), or your tty driver is bonkers (I recommend fbgetty for consoles, mgetty for serial lines). BTW, there's an utterly braindamaged behaviour in many (most?) daemon packages during upgrade: They will start their daemons regardless of the current runlevel, so keep this in mind during upgrades if you hand-trimmed your runlevels to actually mean something. Hmmm. A newly installed package won't know which levels you want it running in but one being upgrade ought to be able to check. My point exactly. Proposing a fix to this is in my TODO list. The code is rather easy, really, but requires a policy change as almost all packages who have something in /etc/init.d will have to be fixed. I'm new to Debian and only just finished reading the policy docs atc. I suppose some extended version of update-rc.d is the thing for that. Yes, and the new script would be provided by the file-rc and sysvinit packages (and any other future /etc/init.d wrappers/handlers). -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh pgpaGmSo47SmQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SSH Obsolete?
This is OpenSSH (from non-us.debian.org). Is there an OpenSSH2 package? If so, it's not showing up in dselect. In fact, other than this package (which is marked obsolete) no other ssh packages show up: except qmtpssh, which is not what I'm looking for. If you're interested in OpenSSH 2.1.something, you can fetch the Woody packages, you need ssh, ssh-askpass(-gnome) and libssl095 AFAIR. Isn't the currently debianized ssh2 package the official ssh2 (i.e. non-free, sucky licensed one) as opposed to the OpenSSH 2 version? Are there debian packages of the latter hiding someplace? Daniel # Daniel Whelan Code Monkey, TriPixel Inc. # [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tripixel.net # Evan and Tim need to write a slogan for us.
Re: stupid question
%% Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some people really seem to dislike them and I can't see why. Useless eye candy? Wasteful of resources when unused? Potential security hole? bb I avoid them because of precisely the sort of problem our bb interlocutor is having. There are many tasks I prefer to do in the bb console, but I do as a rule live in X. So the compromise for me is bb to go back and forth quickly and easily, which means deepsix-ing bb xdm and its cousins. Hmm. I have no opinions on display managers, really; at work I don't use one but at home I use GDM, so my wife, who's a Windows person, can reboot or shut down the system without remember how to login as root (GDM has a reboot selection on the login screen). Anyway, going back and forth between X and the tty in Linux is best accomplished (IMO) with C-A-F1,2,3,4 etc., vs. C-A-F7, so the use or non-use of a display manager shouldn't have anything to do with this... ? -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Management Development Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional. --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
Re: stupid question
Bob Bernstein said: I avoid them because of precisely the sort of problem our interlocutor is having. There are many tasks I prefer to do in the console, but I do as a rule live in X. So the compromise for me is to go back and forth quickly and easily, which means deepsix-ing xdm and its cousins. If going back and forth between 'in X' and 'at a text console, but with X still running offscreen' is good enough for you, try Ctrl-Alt-Fn (for n = 1-6)i and Alt-F7 to get back to X. If you feel the need to go between 'in X' and 'X not running', then getting rid of *dm is appropriate (though you could also use `/etc/init.d/*dm stop`, do your console stuff, and `/etc/init.d/*dm start`). -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: crontab control?
Ron Farrer said: Ahh thanks! Another question for the list: can I safely remove anacron? I really dislike the time it runs at and the system is up 24 x 7 so cron can do it's job correctly. anacron is primarily intended for systems that are only up intermittently. IMO, there's no reason to run it on an always-on system. -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
envelope/label printing program
Does anyone know of a program that can print on envelopes, labels, roledex cards, etc. I have a wonderful one for Dos called Envelopes Plus, but I cannot find one for Linux/Unix. I would like to find one so I wouldn't have to use DOS at all. Any suggestions? John Kerr Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux 2.2
Re: nfs and firewall
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 08:23:08PM -0500, Phil Brutsche wrote: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... Hai, I'm trying to secure my system, I ran pmfirewall and some tests. It seems that rpc.mountd still listens on port 1024 even on the outgoing ethernet. ... I would remove the nfs-server (or nfs-kernel-server, whichever you have installed) package. You don't need that package to connect to an NFS server; only if you're going to *be* the NFS server do you need it. Okee, removed it. local machine. In the end I also think of letting the firewall machine act as a local mail and news server (is that deemed secure?). It can be a bad thing: I call having too many services on one system too many eggs in one basket. I've seen situations in the past where an exploit in one piece of software will expose the entire system to the attacker, and let him/her gain access to all that computer offers. agreed, but... I only want to run it as a local service, not as a service to the net. The reason being that my firewall is the only machine on 24/7, so it seems the logical place to provide *local-only* services to my localnet. But being new to this securing thingy I don't know whether such a setup would compromise security, neither do I know how to disable internet access to those services, and how rigidly that can be done. I've a lot of reading to do:) -- groetjes, carel
Re: nfs and firewall
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:01:09AM +0200, Sebastian Ritter wrote: On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Carel Fellinger wrote: Hai, I'm trying to secure my system, I ran pmfirewall and some tests. It seems that rpc.mountd still listens on port 1024 even on the outgoing ethernet. ''' You can find a lot of informations on how to set up Firewalls in the IPCHAINS-HOWTO. You can find that document under http://www.linuxdoc.org/. I know, I'm reading it. But it takes time to fully understand it:( Using the firewall as a mail and news server is extremely dangerous. The best firewall would be a dedicated machine which ONLY acts as a firewall and does nothing more. I think any company that's a little bit nervous about security should afford that. I'm not a company:), and I never intent to provide internet services. Those services are for the localnet only! I want them to get denied on the external (internet) ethernet. I don't know yet whether that still compromises security (I've a lot of reading to do:), so for the time being I would appreciate a verdict from a more experienced person. Do you think that even in the above situation local only mail/news services are a bad thing? And is that because once you get cracked the cracker has access to your local news and mail spool? It seems to me that you are very new to IP security. I'd strongly advise you to buy external support or read lots of related books, e. g. Building Internet Firewalls 2nd Edition by O'Reilly to gain the basic skills. Otherwise it's very likely that you'll get cracked. ;-) I've no money to spent on this, so I will have to read and read and read... It's just that in the mean time i would prefer to have a safe machine:) I understood from reading sofar that as long as you don't expose any service to the outside world you are safe, don't know for sure yet though. -- groetjes, carel
Re: envelope/label printing program
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 02:10:47PM -0400, John Anderson wrote: Does anyone know of a program that can print on envelopes, labels, roledex cards, etc. I have a wonderful one for Dos called Envelopes Plus, but I cannot find one for Linux/Unix. I would like to find one so I wouldn't have to use DOS at all. Any suggestions? You might be interested in the labels package for LaTeX. It's mostly designed for printing on standard page sizes that have peel-off labels or will be cut. With the geometry package you can probably accomodate non-standard page sizes like various envelopes... -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found
Re: wmaker menu problem
Subject: wmaker menu problem Date: Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:45:30PM -0500 In reply to:Lance Hoffmeyer Quoting Lance Hoffmeyer([EMAIL PROTECTED]): lanceh I am using potato and windowmaker. I have run into a problem recently where lanceh my menu has disappeared. When one right-clicks on the mouse I should have a lanceh dialog box appear but nothing happens. Anyone have a clue what I can try to lanceh fix the menu? This happens as root or as a user. It has disappeared globally. lanceh lanceh Lance I just upgraded and I have the same problem. /etc/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu does contain menu.hook. It happened after the upgrade on 8/30. -- DOS Tip #2: Add BUGS=OFF to your CONFIG.SYS ___
Re: wmaker menu problem
Subject: wmaker menu problem Date: Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:45:30PM -0500 In reply to:Lance Hoffmeyer Quoting Lance Hoffmeyer([EMAIL PROTECTED]): lanceh I am using potato and windowmaker. I have run into a problem recently where lanceh my menu has disappeared. When one right-clicks on the mouse I should have a lanceh dialog box appear but nothing happens. Anyone have a clue what I can try to lanceh fix the menu? This happens as root or as a user. It has disappeared globally. lanceh lanceh Lance Followup to my last post. I moved my home GNUstep Directory to 1-GNUstep and ran X again. It now works fine, even had a nice Debian Theme. It looks like the last upgrade changed something in /etc/GNUstep but not in the home GNUstep directory. :-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-) -- Everyone can be taught to sculpt: Michelangelo would have had to be taught how __not to. So it is with the great programmers. ___
Re: newbie question concerning linux install
Richard Swen wrote: NTFS: 5GB NTFS: 4GB Linux Swap: 256MB Linux EXT2: 4GB Are you contemplating dual dooting between Windows NT and Linux? NT does not like to share the machine with other operating systems. Hard to believe isn't it? I was completely shocked when I tried once. It really changed my perception of Microsoft. I don't know if things will ever be the same now. Refer to Running Linux 3rd Edition O'Reilly Assoc. pgs 134-135. If you don't have a copy and you are a newbie, get it. The end result is you will probably want to boot Linux from a diskette. Paul
Re: networking problem
route add -host 127.0.0.1 lo success (but isn't this supposed to be done by a bootup script ifup?) ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable failure Maybe pty/kernel_config problem? mike Mike McNally wrote: New install of deb2.2.17. Freshly compiled kernel. 2boxes: deb fwall samba server; w98 box ppp0 to dialup; eth0 between boxes (w/hub) running ppp0 then pmfirewall start masqstart the route lines for ppp0 are automatically run (what script does this?) but... the eth0 route is not added (should have been added at boot) question: what script was it that used to automatically add the eth0 route line in my last install of the same ver linux? Should I fix up the scripts or add the route lines to /etc/network/interfaces? Is it a problem that I don't have a file named /etc/networks... (I remember one from my last install containing a line like: localdomain ip)? ifconfig -a -- dummy Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 BROADCAST NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:CC:29:7D:08 inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:11 Base address:0x6000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:37 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:37 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:209.252.177.100 P-t-P:209.254.124.213 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:145 errors:2 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:2 TX packets:153 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 route -n -- Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 209.254.124.213 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 0.0.0.0 209.254.124.213 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0 interfaces -- # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
sendmail vs. virtusertable
hello i posted a mail about sendmail problems some months ago. one of the problems could be solved, the other one tracked down to the virtusertable feature. if i include FEATURE(virtusertable) in sendmail.mc i can't write directly to the users anymore. this means that mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't arrive (User unknown), mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (forwarding to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) works fine. when i remove the virtusertable feature, everything is ok, but i need that feature. the system is potato, sendmail 8.9.3-23 and procmail 3.13.1-3 i couldn't find anything in the mailing list archive, the bug tracking system and on deja.com, so i'd really apreciate any help. please reply directly, as i'm not on debian-user. thanks for your help regards stefan -- stefan ott cellular: +41.79.2459777 [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +41.62.8274115 http://stefan.desire.ch fax: +41.62.8274118 life is a sexually transmitted disease with 100% mortality
Re: newbie question concerning linux install
On 03-Sep-2000 Paul T.McNally wrote: Are you contemplating dual dooting between Windows NT and Linux? NT does not like to share the machine with other operating systems. Hard to believe isn't it? I was completely shocked when I tried once. It really changed my perception of Microsoft. I don't know if things will ever be the same now. Not hard to believe at all. Maybe MicroBilly does not want people to try different OS's. -- Andrew
Re: SysVinit problem?
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 01:42:17PM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, Bruce Richardson wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:12:33AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: I thought that might be the case but I'm still concerned about the freezing ttys. I can't believe that it's intended behaviour. It is not, but it may be either something weird in /etc/inittab (I seem to recall some ttys aren't restarted in all runlevels by default. They WILL freeze) Aye, that is the case. Only tty1 is restarted in all 5 levels, the others only in 2 or 3. This seems bizarre and arbitrary, seeing that otherwise the runlevels are identical. -- Bruce If the universe were simple enough to be understood, we would be too simple to understand it.
gtk/libpixmap?
Friday I decided to refsck my filesystems and start clean (every year or two seems a good time to clean my accumulated cruft out). I'm now plagued with gtk warnings like this one for many of my gtk programs: Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: libpixmap.so What do I need to do to fix this ? I'm running Woody (and have been for as long as woody has been around) and am not at all averse to compiling things to fix it. I thought it was a gnome-libs library...however, I'm not sure of that, since programs like gtk-licq are complainging also. If it takes just recompiling gtk+-1.2.8 to fix it...that's fine too, however, I'm trying to break myself of accumulating non-dpkg installed stuff on my system (see cruft above). Thanks Danny Barron
Re: networking problem
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 02:28:30PM -0500, Mike McNally wrote:
route add -host 127.0.0.1 lo
success (but isn't this supposed to be done by a bootup script ifup?)
Sorry to butt into the middle of this thread like this, but I shouldn't
the default route be re-set by ifup -a?
If I set the default route to a different ethX interface, it doesn't get
re-set onto the original eth0 if I do /etc/init.d/networking restart,
which is rather annoying.
What am I missing?
Thanks
Sven
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RE: newbie question concerning linux install
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2000 21:42 To: debian-users Subject: Re: newbie question concerning linux install On 03-Sep-2000 Paul T.McNally wrote: Are you contemplating dual dooting between Windows NT and Linux? NT does not like to share the machine with other operating systems. Hard to believe isn't it? I was completely shocked when I tried once. It really changed my perception of Microsoft. I don't know if things will ever be the same now. Not hard to believe at all. Maybe MicroBilly does not want people to try different OS's. He does want you to try other OSs, but rather to do it on a permanent basis.iow, upgrade to Windows 2K, which is a rather nice OS IMO. Linux still has a long way to go before it reaches the userfriendliness of Windows, especially in the configuration department (and speed of GUIs, though that has been improved over the last 2 years it seems, though that may be me upgrading my system...).
[OFF TOPIC] Postscript Printer
I'm looking for a reliable and affordable postscript printer. I heard Lexmarks Optra series could do the job. Does anyone has experience with those or could recommend me another one that fits in the nice reli- and affordable category? Thanks in advance, MH -- (Dr.) Michael Hummel mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fprint = F24D EAC6 E3D7 372C 9122 D510 EB24 01CA 0B56 B518 key: http://www.seitung.net/key pgpXtVnzPnJpe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: networking problem
Trying Sven's ifup -a
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
I think I goofed up the kernel compile. I remember being unsure of
questions
regarding pty unix98
dmesg | pty
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
but I kind of recall not adding all modules concerning the pty code...
anybody think that's the problem?
mike
Sven Burgener wrote:
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 02:28:30PM -0500, Mike McNally wrote:
route add -host 127.0.0.1 lo
success (but isn't this supposed to be done by a bootup script ifup?)
Sorry to butt into the middle of this thread like this, but I shouldn't
the default route be re-set by ifup -a?
If I set the default route to a different ethX interface, it doesn't get
re-set onto the original eth0 if I do /etc/init.d/networking restart,
which is rather annoying.
What am I missing?
Thanks
Sven
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Re: crontab control?
Dave Sherohman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ron Farrer said: Ahh thanks! Another question for the list: can I safely remove anacron? I really dislike the time it runs at and the system is up 24 x 7 so cron can do it's job correctly. anacron is primarily intended for systems that are only up intermittently. IMO, there's no reason to run it on an always-on system. I know this, that is why I *asked* if it can be safely removed? I would just like to purge it but want to make sure it wont fubar anything? Thanks, Ron -- Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: http://www.farrer.net/~rbf/ ICQ: pulsar 26276320 Debian GNU/HURD: http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd pgpCHQJmBwevZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
reformatting MBR
I am having an error messages such as No operating system or, 40 40 40... on the screen after the hard disk jumpers were not set up correctly. What is the command to redo the master boot record? John Kerr Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux 2.2
Re: [OFF TOPIC] Postscript Printer
Michael, I picked up the Lexmark Optra E312 and couldn't be happier. The text is very sharp and getting it working with debian was a complete breeze (once I knew what to do). Bill On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:05:44PM +0200, Vee-Eye wrote: I'm looking for a reliable and affordable postscript printer. I heard Lexmarks Optra series could do the job. Does anyone has experience with those or could recommend me another one that fits in the nice reli- and affordable category? Thanks in advance, MH -- (Dr.) Michael Hummel mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fprint = F24D EAC6 E3D7 372C 9122 D510 EB24 01CA 0B56 B518 key: http://www.seitung.net/key
Re: reformatting MBR
On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, John Anderson wrote: I am having an error messages such as No operating system or, 40 40 40... on the screen after the hard disk jumpers were not set up correctly. What is the command to redo the master boot record? Using windows fdisk -- fdisk /MBR is the command. hth, kent
Re: access to /var/log/messages
Have you considered uncommenting the log to ttyv line in syslog.conf, then you don't need to play around with perms? If you MUST elevate user privs, try sudo first rather than making your user GID 0--you can gain all the functionality you need, but don't open yourself to another compromisable 800 pound gorilla account. On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, William Jensen wrote: Greetings Debians, I'd like to give access to the directory /var/log/messages to my user account so I can watch what messages are being displayed there. I'd do this with tail -f /var/log/messages. Problem is my user accnt has no permissions on that directory. I could change the permissions on the directory itself but then any other user can look into that data and I'd rather not have that. Therefore is it wise policy to add my user account to the 'root' group? Would that solve the problem while maintaining system security? Or is there a better way of achieving this? And how would I go about adding myself to the root group...modify /etc/group? Thanks, Bill -- There is an old saying that if a million monkeys typed on a million keyboards for a million years, eventually all the works of Shakespeare would be produced. Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: ssh from nt?
TeraTerm. I couldn't live without it. On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, William Jensen wrote: Greetings, At work we run NT but I like to access my home pc. We use a package called KEA as our main telnet/term package. Does anyone have any experience getting KEA to use any sort of ssh? Alternatively, does anyone know of a windows terminal package that is completely freeware that can use ssh? I would really like to shut down my open telnet port and use ssh if I can. Bill -- There is an old saying that if a million monkeys typed on a million keyboards for a million years, eventually all the works of Shakespeare would be produced. Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: reformatting MBR
just re-load lilo into the MBR just make sure your lilo.conf is configured right to install to the MBR use the line: boot=/dev/hda to install to the primary, master hd, change accordingly for other drives. nate John Anderson wrote: I am having an error messages such as No operating system or, 40 40 40... on the screen after the hard disk jumpers were not set up correctly. What is the command to redo the master boot record? John Kerr Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Potato splitvt not working
Does anyone have splitvt running on Potato? I have it running fine on Slink but when I run it on Potato I get the error: No available pseudo terminals That is on a console or an xterm. I have CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y, CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y, and CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256 in the kernel (2.2.16 .17). I also have /dev/ptyp[0-9]. These are all set on Slink as well as Potato. I have checked the docs but can't locate any mention of a change from Slink. As the NOTES file mentioned in the README is not included in the distribution, I can't check it for any 'hints' as to what the problem might be. Any suggestions appreciated. -- Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with computers, and nobody thinks of complaining. -- Jeff Raskin, interviewed in Doctor Dobb's Journal ___
Re: logitech trackman marble+
Phillip Deackes wrote: I tried this with my Logitech Trackman Marble mouse and it didn't work. All that happened wa that my mouse pointer stuck at the top right of the X display and didn't do anything. may have to configure it through GPM see this page for other solutions http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ You say 'use the imwheel program to scroll' - I am not sure what to do with inwheel - I read the DEBIAN readme which came with it and put the relevant files etc. into /etc/X11/imwheel and /etc/X11/Xsession. Tried to run 'imwheel' in X but without the mose couldn't open an xterm to type it in! for me i installed it, ran it, and it handles scrolling up and down, did not have to do any configuration. i use afterstep so i just put it into my autoexec to load when afterstep loads. Is there something I am not doing? Is IMPS/2 available in X or do I need to compile it in/fetch it from somewhere? IMPS/2 is part of X, although ive seen some instances(mainly with MS wheel mice) where that protocol didn't work and a friend set up the /dev/gpmdata stuff to get it working see the link above on other protocols/ways to get the mouse to talk nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gtk/libpixmap?
Install gtk-pixmap-engine. Andrei -- First there was Explorer... Then came Expedition. This summer Coming to a street near you.. Ford Exterminator. -- Andrei Ivanov http://arshes.dyndns.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12402354 --
Re: newbie question concerning linux install
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:04:28PM +0200, J.T. Wenting wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Maybe MicroBilly does not want people to try different OS's. He does want you to try other OSs, but rather to do it on a permanent basis.iow, upgrade to Windows 2K, which is a rather nice OS IMO. Linux still has a long way to go before it reaches the userfriendliness of Windows, especially in the configuration department (and speed of GUIs, though that has been improved over the last 2 years it seems, though that may be me upgrading my system...). At least you are able to configure Linux. If wizards failed in Windoze, I was almost never able to do it manually. With Linux you can do everything you ever can dream, _if_ you know how to do it. BTW, I think Linux has much richer and nicer (=ineffient, yes) GUIs than Windose. Disclaimer: I have been tortured by crashing Windows 95 for many, many years and my mental stability may have been suffered, so my views may be too bw. -- Let me tell you why I use Linux: Some time ago, I made a mistake and tried to access data on a cdrom using a well-known commercial os. It totally freezed! Only by pressing eject button of the cd-drive I managed to reboot my machine. - Esko Lehtonen
Re: System time
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 08:44:44PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote: On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 11:23:59PM -0400, Thomas J. Hamman wrote: I should add in that the change is usually by 5 hours, which is my timezone's offset from GMT, so I've been wondering if maybe I accidentally picked the wrong setting concerning the hardware clock being set to GMT during installation. I can't find where that setting is configured though (and tzconfig doesn't include it). Ahh, confusion about whether BIOS clock is in UTC or local time... Check /etc/default/rcS for the line UTC=yes|no. I suggest yes, and set your timezone accordingly for localtime. Don't know if it matters, but if you have it, look at /proc/rtc. It should give you an indication of how the kernel thinks system time is (24hr, DST, etc...). This should agree with your BIOS. Also, is this a dual-boot Windows machine? That can be a factor. In fact, you might have to keep your system time in local time for them both to agree. If you're dual-booting Linux and legacy MS Windows, you may also get a timeshift, as MS Windows assumes BIOS clock is local time, not UTC. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpnYpp4j07pr.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Hello, i need driver to my etherlink xl 3 com,(pci) netcard, could you please help me Oddbjrn Kjellbakk Nordfold Norway
Odd Missing Apps in 2.2 Install
OK, I'll admit upfront that I'm new to Debian, but OTOH not to Linux. I installed 2.2 (compact kernel) without any *apparent* errors, but the resulting install proved to be less than useful in some odd ways. I'm too green at Debian to know a bug from a feature :-) I chose a simple install, and picked the tasks relevant to my usage. I use PPP dialup for my net connection, and do mostly e-mail, Net browsing and some c/c++ compiles. Mostly I'm in a console, but I do use X as well. The install left out gpm, which I would have thought would be a standard. Likewise lpr print spooling. After I installed lpr I discovered that the lp.o module wasn't installed with the compact kernel modules. And all the configuring failed to add /dev/lp0 to the /etc/printcap file. Of less importance (to me) was that although the VGA16 server is there, I don't recall being asked for any other; e.g., svga. So, no X is run by xdm. And finally (at last), where does all that user tweaking go that SuSE puts in /etc/rc.d/boot.local and halt.local? This is where, e.g., custom environmental vars are set. And where is the appropriate spot to disable daemons I don't need/want, like inetd and atd? Do I edit the /etc/init.d scripts? New but still trying, Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 6.3 -- Kernel upgraded to 2.2.16 Communications by Mutt 1.2.4i
Re: networking problem
More problems which will hopefully present a clue kernel: registered device ppp0 pppd[432]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0 pppd[432]: Using interface ppp8 pppd[432]: Connect : ppp8 -- /dev/ttyS1 pppd[432]: tcflush failed: input/output error pppd[432]: Exit ls /var/log/lock nothing tree /etc/ppp nothing that would appear to hold locked device info Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.17 does not match kernel data What the heck does that mean? Sounds like I messed up the kernel. I'll try the last one and see if that fixes ppp. I added cslip module in case any networking functions needed it. Maybe that's what's foobar here. mike Mike McNally wrote: Trying Sven's ifup -a SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
Re: envelope/label printing program
It is not free, but -- wordperfect. John Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : Does anyone know of a program that can print on envelopes, labels, roledex : cards, etc. I have a wonderful one for Dos called Envelopes Plus, but I : cannot find one for Linux/Unix. I would like to find one so I wouldn't : have to use DOS at all. Any suggestions? : : John Kerr Anderson : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 : : -- : Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- *** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills * Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A. * * EMAIL= [EMAIL PROTECTED] * WWW= http://Mills-USA.com/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * * pgp public key on keyservers everywhere? */ --
Re: SysVinit problem?
Bruce Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 10:12:33AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: : : This is ok, Debian doesn't use runlevels 3-5 for anything by default AFAIK, : and they're mostly equal to runlevel 2 (I think /etc/inittab has some stuff : which is different, simply to show it can do that). : I thought that might be the case but I'm still concerned about the : freezing ttys. I can't believe that it's intended behaviour. Look at /etc/inittab. Find the section on getty's. There is your answer. Only one getty is run above runlevel 3. -- *** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills * Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A. * * EMAIL= [EMAIL PROTECTED] * WWW= http://Mills-USA.com/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * * pgp public key on keyservers everywhere? */ --
Re: I hosed my network
No route to host seems kinda weird, but since you can ping I don't think theres anything wrong with your hardware. Anyway, I like it when people RTFM, maybe I can be of some help. loki:/etc# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 204.145.251.52 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 lo 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 204.145.251.52 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 ppp0 (I also don't like the double lo appearance in the other machines routing) I'm missing an important piece of info: was your ppp0 interface up when trying to ftp between your two boxes and does it work ok, do you have Internet connectivity? It looks like the ppp is wrong. With a 0.0.0.0 netmask you don't set any network bits for the interface, this might explain why your ping -b did something (also note the longer ping time when pinging themselves) Do you want to ping broadcast? Then -b ^^ PING 192.168.1.0 (192.168.1.0) from 192.168.1.2 : 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.5 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.4 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.4 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=0.4 ms Note that .1 doesnt respond (it should also, al least mine does with a DUP! note). Does your /etc/host.conf have order bind,hosts (should be hosts,bind unless you're really doing exotic things on purpose) in it? Are you running bind yourself? (don't) Anyway, you should be using params like these: .1 has an eth .1, no default gateway, the ppp interface should have its gateway set to its Internet IP address (dynamically if needed) or (better) to one of your ISP's router IPs. It should have the .2 box in its /etc/hosts file and it should have your ISPs DNS numbers in its /etc/resolv.conf. Ask them for the netmask you should use and then use it (or x.x.255.255 or so if you have no further info) on the ppp interface. Use the default entries for the lo device on both boxes, also leave the IP spoofing part in place in /etc/init.d/networking. Make sure /etc/host.allow and .deny are set up the way you want it, enable .2 to do stuff and keep the rest out. Now .2 might want to have .1 as its gateway, that way (if you enable ip forwarding and masquerading on .1) you can use .1's Internet connection (I presume this is the final goal?). Don't use .1's Internet IP number anywhere in your setup, instead for .2, the Internet connectivity should be provided by .1 You can (and should unless your .1 runs bind) enter your ISP's nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf Don't change the /etc/init.d/networking script too easily, instead use /etc/network/interfaces and the like, and restart the daemon everytime by # /etc/init.d/networking stop # /etc/init.d/networking start (I rather not use reload). If you'll do ipchains rules for your local net, /etc/init.d/networking might be a good place for that. I think it's easier to check the setups once again than to find the exact problem from diagnostic output. I don't believe you have a hardware problem and certainly not an IRQ problem!! The networking HOWTO will likely be needed. Good luck, -- Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ricin.com
Re: stupid question
On Sun, 03 Sep 2000, Dave Sherohman wrote: If going back and forth between 'in X' and 'at a text console, but with X still running offscreen' is good enough for you, try Ctrl-Alt-Fn (for n = 1-6)i and Alt-F7 to get back to X. If you feel the need to go between 'in X' and 'X not running', then getting rid of *dm is appropriate (though you could also use `/etc/init.d/*dm stop`, do your console stuff, and `/etc/init.d/*dm start`). Exactly, then you can kill your xdm and your X and look into the problem at the first place. (then apt-get remove xdm ;-) -- Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ricin.com
Off-Topic? - silly mutt question
After I chance to another folder within mutt the only way I have figured out to get back to my 'inbox' is to change to the folder /var/spool/mail/jensenb. Does anyone know a shortcut to this? Blushing, Bill
Re: ssh from nt?
William Jensen sez: At work we run NT but I like to access my home pc. We use a package called KEA as our main telnet/term package. Does anyone have any experience getting KEA to use any sort of ssh? Alternatively, does anyone know of a windows terminal package that is completely freeware that can use ssh? I would really like to shut down my open telnet port and use ssh if I can. I've been using a href=http://sources.redhat.com/cygwinCygwin32/a along with a nice port of Open SSH from ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/cygwin/porters/Vinschen_Corinna/V1.1.3/openssh-2.1.1p4-2.tar.gz They work nicely, perhaps flawlessly. Forwards X connections and so on. -- PGP Fingerprint: 3E7B A3F3 96CA 8958 ACC5 C8BD 6337 0041 C01C 5276
